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2201  Other / Politics & Society / Re: DEFCAD taken offline at request of US Department of Defense Trade Controls on: May 09, 2013, 10:32:21 PM
Now all they have to do is send take-down notices to the 100k+ people who downloaded these guns.  What a waste of trees, anyway.
2202  Other / Off-topic / Re: Top tips for surviving life on planet earth on: May 09, 2013, 07:47:54 PM
Don't drink the water.  It'll kill you.
2203  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tertiary/Higher Education on: May 09, 2013, 07:17:05 AM
By the way, I know there are a lot of examples of college dropouts who became very successful, but first, they typically dropped out after getting into a very prestigious university, and taking a few years there, and second, for every successful college dropout, there are probably 40 successful managers and CEOs. So, as long as you're going for a degree that's not stupid (not some liberal arts or humanities crap), I would stick to it.

Edison dropped out of school after just 2 months of it, B. Franklin dropped out after 2 years, and Einstein was gone by the time he was 15 Tongue  As it goes for college, I know Bill Gates and that one guy who used to run Apple dropped out of college early, but they knew what they were doing, and I probably would've done the same thing.  Anyway, I just find it sad that, even as adults, schools feel it necessary to discipline their students.  If I had such an interest in the courses I was taking, why should they feel the need to grade me on it?  If I had a real understanding of the subject matter I sought to understand, I should know, myself, what it is I know and what it is I still need help on.  The modern college has no time for this; they must keep the order, and they must record grades, for the student is not there to learn, but to listen, and memorize, and return to the lecturer what they have been lectured, and so there must be a system with which we can monitor whether the student can play Simon Sez as well as the next guy.  We can describe the average student by their GPA; I don't like this fact, but it's become a standard; if Sally has a 4.0 GPA, she's likely going to live a very good life, and if Joe has a 2.5 GPA, he's average.  But we know this isn't true all the time, it's a mere generalization, and a very serious generalization when it comes to the even higher education and then, the work force.  So we must submit to this generalization and realize that we are but numbers.  Most of us have a number pegged to our names; I know I do, but I can never remember it.  But the point I'd like to make, is that we're missing the point of education.  If a college, as a business, only has the intention to educate, why such intricate systems which have nothing to do with any given subject matter?  Who created these mandatory systems to peg the student at this level or that level?  Why do we subject ourselves to judgment?  It feels like all we're doing is trying to look good under someone else's eyes.  I wouldn't mind paying a guy to teach me about History if he'd just stop trying to test my understanding; I know what I know and what I don't know (though I do see how this can be a problem for people who can't figure out they don't know squat.)  I didn't take the History course for someone else (technically, in this case, sadly, I did, but for sake of example,) I took it so I could have a better understanding of American history.  That's the point: this education is for me.  That's why I bought it, right?  Nobody buys a TV for someone else, unless they plan on giving it away.  I bought lunch for me to eat, and I'm the only person that should care about that--well, maybe my partner would care.  Why, then, is my education treated as a public matter, even in a (state-adhering) private institution?  I suppose that's simply society today; we developed our American society, and so we bear the fruit.  We developed a working society, where math and science aren't quite as important as profitable skills, and now we're stuck with what we've sought: that being, employers expecting degrees from this school or not from that school, to weed out the riff-raff.  I can't say colleges are helping this matter along, merely sticking to the business plan, even when the quality of education goes downhill (cough UTA.)  When will McDonalds serve food that's good for me?  Not until enough people stop buying the food they're already putting out.

Good news is, I'm pretty sure I passed my History final.  I spent a few good hours reading the sparknotes version and developed an understanding I didn't get from my lecturer; mostly because I could pace myself, I suppose.  I now know more about the Civil War than I ever really wanted to know.  Lincoln was a dick.  I'm still trying to figure out whether or not I needed a professor to help me understand why Lincoln was a dick, but I won't know that until I attempt to take on a subject offered by college by myself.  It would be an interesting test, I think.

Also, sorry for the long posts.  They're not necessarily aimed at you, Rassah, mostly just me thinking out loud Cheesy
2204  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tertiary/Higher Education on: May 09, 2013, 03:54:46 AM
Why are you even taking History if it's something you have not much interest in? For my "social studies" requirement I just took government and politics. Figured they would be good to know for business.

I'm assuming it's because the state of Texas mandates specific classes to be taken, one of them being US History, while other states do it differently.  I don't know how it is in other states, but in mine, I'm required to take this course before I can even grab my associates degree.  But I'm with you, I shouldn't be taking a class I have no interest in, and yet, I'm between a rock and a hard place, because unless I'm taking these classes I have no interest in, I have no hopes of attaining a degree in anything.  Which is why I'm contemplating dropping out, or in the very least, ignoring my "core" classes to pursue classes I actually do have interest in, despite not getting a little piece of paper once I'm finished.  I'm not really interested in the job market either way; I can't imagine the suck involved in ass-kissing an employer, but I've only had to do that for jobs paying minimum wage thus far, so I wouldn't know how it is being in a position requiring a college degree.  I'd rather be an indie-something than be a cog in a machine.

As for what the higher education is supposed to be about, you and your friend are kinda wrong on it, or at least are taking the wrong things out of it. It's not to force you to memorize stuff and indoctrinate you. It's not to give you a degree to let you get a higher paying job. A university can do something that no amount of self-learning can provide, which is that it can teach you WHAT is actually out there that you can learn about. Sure, you can Google and find information about anything out there, but you can't begin to Google if you don't know the keywords or the concepts to begin searching for. That was pretty much my experience while getting my degrees: some of it was reviews and easy A's, some of it was tedious stuff I wasn't sure that I'd need, but figured it's good to know about, and A LOT of it was stuff that I hadn't even considered or didn't know existed, that I learned more about after researching on my own, but wouldn't have even bothered if no one told me about.

Also, regarding your friend, there are plenty of "other ways" to earn money as a male nurse than in the medical/caretaker field Wink

(Honestly, though, as long as he can handle old people shit and piss, he's going into a field that will be in huge demand, now with baby boomers retiring)

I still disagree about the point of college.  As I've mentioned elsewhere (I think...), a university was originally meant to be a safe-haven for people to go and be educated, for no reason outside of a general want for knowledge.  Nobody goes to college anymore for knowledge; they only go because most every college nowadays has some logo saying "Get a better job today!  Apply now!", and there aren't a whole lot of Americans who feel they're perfectly happy with where they are in life--so I assume, from my time working in low-paying part-time jobs.  Once, I took a sociology class, and the professor asked everyone why they went to college; most said they wanted to get a better job.  I told him I was going because I was bored of working all the time, so I guess that fits the bill, too--although, my reason now is much different than back then, but I also haven't been working 50 hours a week lately, so I figure that has something to do with it.  Anyway, there's nothing I'm going to learn in college that's going to teach me how to swing a golf club perfectly on my first try so I'll get a hole in one.  Certainly, self-learning can never provide me everything I need to know for "what's out there", but that isn't solely solved by college; I can also go out there, and learn for myself what's out there (which I doubt wouldn't be lurking somewhere on the Internet anyway.)  Though you're right; you can't learn what you don't know about, I'm generally content with what I currently do know; I'm not a complex man, I don't believe, and I'm certainly not very compelled to learn too deep on other cultures, and I have no real penchant for science, though I do enjoy reading about it (not sci-fi, the real stuff Cheesy)  Knowledge begets knowledge, and I don't believe it's accurate to say only a college can supply that hidden knowledge that apparently no other entity knows about, but for a good 4k a semester, they'll let you in on the secret.  If anything, the only thing I'd miss is the social interaction, which, as I've come to understand, is the key to getting that job you want, so I suppose I'll have to find that elsewhere if I do leave.

Besides, Ivy League colleges keep pumping out Presidents with a complete and utter disconnect from reality.  This is not normal.  I once met an Ivy Leaguer; he was a dick.  Felt he was above everyone else.  He couldn't be wrong about any subject, because if he was losing, he'd remind you that he was an Ivy Leaguer and you were welcome to suck his hoo-haw.  But I can't really speak for all of them, based on my shallow experiences.  Anyway, I don't believe the point is why is people go to college, but how colleges are trying to adapt to student desires, and the student desire generally revolves around the prospect of money, and thus, a higher social status.  But maybe I'm wrong; I base this all on the only colleges I could hope to afford, which appeal to the lower class, from where I stand.  So I'm not entirely sure why rich folks go to college.  I'll have to ask one some day.

About my friend: he still hates nursing.  I believe this is a valid point; he's planning on dropping the debt-bomb to learn to do something he doesn't like for the prospect of money.  I don't believe it's a good idea for him to pursue a career like that, especially considering there are plenty of people in the world with a genuine interest in helping other people.  He just wants to live "comfortably", as he puts it.
2205  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tertiary/Higher Education on: May 08, 2013, 05:55:21 PM
If they were to do that, they wouldn't need 13 years of indoctrination.

Good point; if anything, a few years of basics (reading, writing, arithmetic) is all a child really needs as a foundation for everything else they can learn, and that can be taught by any functional adult.  I got into an argument the other day with a friend of mine who decided to go for a business degree in fashion.  She's currently in a load of debt, despite having government assistance from FAFSA.  Anyway, the argument was that people could learn just as well without a formal education, and often times become even more intelligent than usual.  Her main retort was that nobody can get a job without a college degree and that's the main reason why anyone should go, which I couldn't fault her for, as she was right; that's the only reason people go to college anymore.  It has nothing to do with wanting to learn, but those 13 years of mental beat-down teach people that they have to learn, or else they'll "never amount to anything."  I should note, my friend is Asian, and happens to have the typical Asian parents who push their kids so far, some commit suicide.  She still doesn't know why the hell she's in college or what good a business fashion degree will do her Tongue  She noted, however, that she doesn't like to argue, which leads me to believe she mostly just wants to do the "minimum" so she can live a good life, while also believing there's no hope she'll get a job doing fashion, which she admits she now hates and hoped for another major, but she's already graduating so it's too late.  It's kinda strange to watch someone be on two sides like that, but she's not the first.  My best friend also follows the "do what you hate so you can get money and then you can do what you love" ideology.  He wants to be a male nurse.  I've already explained the field is oversaturated, and the fact that he doesn't like bodily fluids will probably stop his career early, but it doesn't seem to stop him.

I've learned more from self-education than I ever have from public schooling or my current college.

I know what you mean.  I've learned far more from YouTube and Wikipedia, of all things, than I've learned from mandatory education, and even more educational sites are cropping up; I've been using a website to learn how to code in python, at that.  Yet because I don't get a slip of paper to show for it, I suppose I'm always runner up to the guy who hocked however many thousands it took to get an "official" education.
2206  Other / Off-topic / Re: Thanks a lot ...KID! on: May 08, 2013, 05:58:43 AM
You should already be storing your coins in a personal wallet.  Don't be the guy who loses all his cash from yet another successful hack attempt.
2207  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Schumer: Itís time to go after the 3-D printable guns on: May 08, 2013, 05:56:26 AM
The last thing someone in power wants to do is allow the 99% easy weaponry.  You don't conquer a people by arming them.  You first take control of the most expensive military in the world, and then use it against anyone who disagrees with you.  It's hard to do that when those people who disagree have the ability to fight back.  It's hard to look like the good guy when you can't rush to someone's rescue, someone you've disarmed without them knowing you've disarmed them.  You don't give people weapons; otherwise, they might get the idea that they can defend themselves.  They might even collaborate against you, the guy in charge--madness!  What fool on top would allow this?  Divide and conquer: repeat after me.  Divide and conquer.
2208  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tertiary/Higher Education on: May 08, 2013, 05:52:07 AM
I'm considering dropping out of college, myself.  Not that I don't love to learn, but I have a theory on the proper way to educate people, and it isn't by keeping track of every class they take, when they show up to that class, and telling them whether or not their understanding of a particular subject is good enough, or if that one point means they don't actually understand anything.

Needless to say, I'm probably going to fail my US History class Tongue  I picked up a lot of stuff from it, but I'm not doing so hot, on account of me not being able to remember who did what and when.  The "why", I get.  It's the rest that I neither care about, nor feel I should care about.  I aced my federal government class, anyway.

What I don't get is why I couldn't learn this stuff on my own; if I have to read the textbook before I show up to class each day, why shouldn't I just stay at home and simply read the textbook?  Why am I paying a professor to tell me to study, when I can study on my own, tell myself to study (or get a friend to do it,) and get the same experience?  Why this dependency on an outside force (which just happens to be under the thumb of a higher power) when every resource is there?  If I were taught how to teach myself in my first 13 years of mandatory education, I'd be in a much better spot right now.  Seems modern day college is nothing more than a debt trap.
2209  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Seeking validation, am I crazy? on: May 05, 2013, 12:34:03 AM
OP, I can confirm this.  I check this site way too much.  During the time when it was getting DDoS'd, I got a lot of shit done.  Now, I have to keep checking back here to make sure I'm not missing any important BTC related news.

Anyway, as others have suggested, the cure is to be determined to stay off the stuff for a while.  I, for one, have been putting off my work all day for this site, so I'm going to stay away from Bitcoin for at least a few days.
2210  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will CNC be a success, and how much will it rise by? on: May 04, 2013, 11:38:14 PM
I have no idea what it is.
2211  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's get Dropbox to accept Bitcoin! We're about 4,000 votes short! (+ RAFFLE) on: May 04, 2013, 11:00:50 PM
Whoop-de-doodle, we made it!

Time to party.
2212  Economy / Speculation / Re: holy shit, china is going parabolic.. on: May 04, 2013, 10:57:15 PM
Very very interesting.  The largest country in the world taking an interest in FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY MORE FREEDOM

So any news on how India feels about Bitcoin?
2213  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This is the thread where you discuss free market, americans and libertarianism on: May 04, 2013, 10:32:59 PM
Yep.  You must be from the USA.  USA is a police state, but her citizens are the only ones I know of, as a bi-lingual Canadian born in the UK, who, at least some of them, understand liberty.

Most are trained to believe they're free simply because they live in America.  Thanks to this brainwashing, you get people like Viceroy, who believe "freedom" can only be achieved through being an American citizen.

I'm not kidding, either.  This is seriously what people believe here.
2214  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Just bought an Amazon gift card to trade for BTC. This is stupid. on: May 04, 2013, 10:28:29 PM
Have you tried the various legit markets?
2215  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin a Currency or Commodity? on: May 04, 2013, 10:26:54 PM
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In economics, a commodity is a marketable item produced to satisfy wants or needs. Economic commodities comprise goods and services.

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A currency (from Middle English curraunt, meaning in circulation) in the most specific use of the word refers to money in any form when in actual use or circulation, as a medium of exchange, especially circulating paper money.

Unless Bitcoin's service of "being a currency" counts toward being a commodity, I think it's safe to say that it is, indeed, a currency.  I don't think "wearing out computers" counts as a service people want.
2216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 29,000 votes on Dropbox website, will they start accepting bitcoin? on: May 04, 2013, 10:16:07 PM
About another 1k votes and it'll hit the popular page.
2217  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The legitimate purpose of military... on: May 04, 2013, 07:51:18 PM
Fuck you, I've had enough of this thread and your arrogant An-Cap preaching. Good bye.

You have some kind of odd obsession with this thing, despite the fact you seem to hate it; I believe this is a symptom of Asperger's, a purported form of autism.

I don't know if you've answered this already, but are you autistic?  If not, are you willing to get tested for it?  I know it makes little logical sense how it would apply in an argument such as this, but it makes a whole lot of sense to people who aren't autistic.
2218  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why does this forum prop up alt currencies? on: May 04, 2013, 05:47:27 AM
Why not?  It's all crypto-currency, and people wanna talk about it; besides, they're confined to a single board.  If you don't want to look at altcoins, stop looking at the altcoin board.
2219  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WTF - Kiddy Porn in the Blockchain for life? on: May 04, 2013, 04:47:42 AM
What's the difference between hentai of an underage anime girl and a dwarf?  All you gotta do is include a disclaimer that all the characters in your anime are over the age of 18 and some are suffering from Benjamin Button syndrome Tongue

You're basically highlighting the point of the anime group-- how the hell are you supposed to argue intent and age with a cartoon? As with all things though, it always depends on the judge. If a judge sees this thread and someone posting "fuck the government, I do what I want", it will probably make it harder for a judge to be impartial.

Judge smudge!  Fuck the government, I do what I want!  Grin

But the thing is, kiddy porn is bad because there's a victim: the kid.  Anime kiddy porn has no victim.  It's a classic case of "Stop liking what I don't like."  Like the sodomy law: if two consenting adults want to do things to their butts in a sexual manner, what does the government care?  Yes, there are naturally born pedophiles in our societies.  There's nothing a law can do to change that; it only eases the minds of people who demand order and control, that they go to bed at night knowing people who aren't like them can't be happy.  It's tragic, in the case of the pedophile, for nobody really wants him to be happy that way, but at least let him have his cartoon lolitas.
2220  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WTF - Kiddy Porn in the Blockchain for life? on: May 04, 2013, 04:36:32 AM
the vast majority of child porn is now completely victimless.

Quoted so you can't remove it later.

I remember some anime community bitching about a new US law a few years back that went after people who watch anime because some of the porn showed girls whose age was up to question. I think that whole grey area is a bit weird to defend, but I do think it's a bit over the line (kind of like making murder in movies illegal).

What's the difference between hentai of an underage anime girl and a dwarf?  All you gotta do is include a disclaimer that all the characters in your anime are over the age of 18 and some are suffering from Benjamin Button syndrome Tongue
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