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801  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Batch #1 Ships on: April 15, 2013, 08:45:06 AM
shame that was not delivered until now.
many lost benefits Smiley

Still ahead of Bunch of Freaking Liars.  Zing!
802  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs Batch #4 (Planning) on: April 15, 2013, 08:41:17 AM
You do know there's not too many people working there right?  I'm sure everybody there is doing 2 or 3 jobs unlike BFL where they're doing 0.2 or 0.3 jobs per person   Wink
803  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Workstation Build Request | HIGH SPECS | on: April 15, 2013, 08:31:03 AM
Why not get a cheap board for mining and make the server separate. It wont really add to the cost since the 2 uses you have go in opposite directions.
804  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Which Ati cards should I buy ? on: April 15, 2013, 08:27:58 AM
The 6990 is very hard to find. There is one a Amazon right now for $700. I was making the same search you are last week. The most recommended new card, I have seen in this forum is the 7950. I ended up buying a 7990. On stock setting I am getting 604MH/s.

How hot is your 7990 running and what fan speed? If you haven't lowered your mem clock, it would help lower temperatures (or some people say) although I haven't seen significant improvement with a 6970.

+1 curious to see how hot the 7990 runs.
805  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What catalyst and sdk drivers are you using for 7970 (windows) on: April 15, 2013, 08:19:29 AM
Jered can't you lower the memory any further?
806  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Whould this be ok for a mining rig? 10 7950's on: April 15, 2013, 08:17:24 AM
No board will have space on it to handle 5 doubles slot cards.
807  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: If there is a GOD, it wants me to mine bitcoins! on: April 15, 2013, 08:15:11 AM
If there is a GOD, it wants me to mine bitcoins.  

God may want you to mine bitcoins, but God knows you'll never make a profit on it after the cost of hardware and electricity is factored in.



These ASUS 7750s are super efficient - 55 W max/each and ~148 MH/s = about 3 MH/watt.  I realize it can't compete with ASIC but its better than some setups....  Might need to switch to LTC eventually.

But you have the energy overhead of an entire system for 150MHs?
808  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: [Poll] What temperature do you keep your GPU? on: April 15, 2013, 08:12:55 AM
not only that but "anal/kelly/fatigue.html"  Roll Eyes

Necro a 2 year old thread for that comment?
809  Other / Meta / Re: Forum record broken April 3 2013 on: April 11, 2013, 10:15:10 AM
Indeed it is snappier now. Calm after the storm DDOS
810  Other / Meta / Re: Poll: The distribution of gender at Bitcointalk on: April 11, 2013, 10:10:17 AM
The thing I found is, there will be girls who won't give a shit, but there are also girls that will lie on these polls and say they're men so they don't get creepy stalkers after them, or they'll put it on their profiles that they're men lol Cheesy You won't ever find out how many girls are actually on the internet for sure never mind Bitcointalk, not unless the polls are 100% anonymous anyway but even then.

This +1000

On most games I end up playing as a dude so the undersexed teenage males won't make stupid jokes over and over.  Sadly a lot of girls like that behavior.
811  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: I think BFL deserves a bit more benefit of the doubt on: April 11, 2013, 08:56:17 AM
I have been dealing with them for about 3 months now. They have always returned every email I have sent them in a timely manner.  I was going to be in the area (this ended up not working out) and asked If I could tour the facility and see the build process.  They told me sure no problem but they expected to be extremely busy trying to get everything lined up so it might be better if I give them two weeks..  They also told me they want to be a long term mining partner and warned me not to buy a mining rig if I was hoping to just make fast profits.  They said realistically it would be about a year ROI to get the money back. 

So far, the company has been professional, honest, had a good attitude about it.

Now for the people who are going to jump in about how they have not delivered in 7 months, I have to say.

I have been doing some homework on what it takes to design an asic, get it produced, and turned into a finalized product.  Hint* not easy

Now I can believe that maybe these guys are kinda learning as they go.  And they are using everyone else money to do it.  I grant that.  But the same could be said for almost any new business.  I started a company 8 years ago out of my garage, just poof made it up one day.  And Yes I had the basics down in the beginning but honestly we were not that good at what we were doing for a few years. 

Also, Successful Business veterans quickly learn that its very easy mistake to make which is to not properly set a customers expectations.  I can see that BFL is obviously guilty of this.  It is clearly documented that they have said multiple times when something was going to happen and it didn't due to unforeseen complexities in the process. 

But lets be honest for a moment.  From what I can see, if they are a scammer company they are doing a very bad job about it. 

1) Have a public office where anyone can visit any time they want
2) This is their 2nd round of hardware (fpga's to asics?)
3) They are putting alot of money into R&D into software, and hardware design in support of the community with relatively low returns.  Probably working insane hours to do it. 
4) giving refunds to unhappy customers
5) offering lifetime warranty on all their products.

I say give them a break, If you don't believe in them, don't fucking buy anything from them.  But to openly accuse them of fraud, cheating, lying, and all the other shit I have been reading seems to be unwarranted to me.  I ordered a minirig from them and I want it to work correctly for at least a few years.  I want it to be well built and if that takes a little bit longer to make it awesome, then so be it.
I don't want some piece of shit they just slapped together so I can have the 2 week advantage over everyone else.  I would rather it take a few extra weeks if that means they are going to do it right. 

Another point is, we need companies like BFL who are willing to invest in the infrastructure if bitcoin is to survive long term.  Yea they have some faults, hopefully they will learn their lesson and start doing what every good business man does.  Under promise and over deliver.  Right now they have been over promising for a while and I think that is why so much negativity is going their way at the moment. 

I know I'm probably in the minority given the tone on these forums but I just wanted to throw out my two btc.

So much of what you said is very subjective and not using quantifiers.  I went and bolded some of that crap.

-Professional?  Is calling somebody a c*cksucker professional?  Maybe in the porno industry.  Is that the company you keep?
-If ASICs are not easy, then how were 2 competitors able to start after them and beat them to the punch? They may not have the lowest 65nm process, but what good is that when your customers lose money hand over fist?
-Honest? I don't see how this company can be called honest when the PR has one of the biggest conflicts of interest in all of bitcoinland.  Running a pool and selling mining contracts while at the same time being a PR guy for hardware vendor.  He made promises to 2 conflicting ends of a spectrum.
-
-fraud, cheating, lying?  Fraud - willful intent to deceive. I think taking orders for an item in June that is supposed to be delivered in October and then delivering it for over 3x the amount of time is blatant fraud.  They stifled competitors by giving false information (although this is seen in many other industries - still doesn't make it right).  Who the hell thinks they had a prototype sometime last year?  Anyone?  Every misstep with the bumping and packaging stage seems to indicate they hadn't done it before.  You're telling me they made the same royal screw ups twice?  Only Homer Simpson could do that.

The final point is your assessment.  A "bit longer"?  Understatement much?  End of June to end of October is 4 months.  A bit would be maybe 5, 10, 15%.  Maybe even 20% more.  If a car dealer quoted you a price and said please forgive me, the car is a bit more - 190% more.  Would you have that same reaction?  Unwarranted?  Are you kidding yourself?

They are not a scam (at least not until they run away with the money).  They are unprofessional, liars, fraudulent.

May I ask what kind of business you run that you see this as professional?  I don't see how anyone could attempt to call it ethical.  It's skirting illegal at the very least, but if you believe in Karma they'll burn in hell.
812  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL is Probably doing fine financially. on: April 10, 2013, 05:42:57 AM
Thank god BFL is doing well financially! I was worried these poor things are starving there Grin Grin Grin

They have Doritos on the lunch table (as seen in the pic).














The only successful chip in the building.
813  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Timeline - illustrated on: April 10, 2013, 04:52:20 AM
OP's pic is worth a thousand words lawsuits
814  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Get a job at BFL!! on: April 10, 2013, 04:36:53 AM
Quote
Why work for Butterfly Labs?

There's nothing more rewarding than working on interesting projects, with the exception of showcasing your pride and joy at CES. Here at Butterfly Labs, we bring our experience almost to market for specialty applications in Industry, Education and Government, recently attempted to satisfy Bitcoin miners. Each project is unique, well funded (very well-funded now) and has a real and virtual world application. It's a deeply rewarding environment, and boy do we pile it on deep.

Please considering joining us, and don't bother bringing a feather--we have the whole damn chicken here outside beautiful Kansas City.

Sonny Vleisides
President

djd

Ma!
Yea, Pa!
I think me found that rascal who sold them lottery tickets to Aunt Mabe a dozen years ago.
Well bless your heart, Pa. Now maybe you can keep the promise you gave at her death bed.
Ma, get me my...
Here it is, Pa.
Don't wait up for me.
Didn't last time, Pa. Give me a kiss before you...
Ain't got time! Gotta get a scootin'.

It looks like English but can't make heads or tails out of that...

I live in Idaho; I can decode that Tongue

And you admit this publicly!?!   Shocked

Like watching an episode of Beverly Hillbillys
815  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Get a job at BFL!! on: April 10, 2013, 04:09:59 AM
Quote
Why work for Butterfly Labs?

There's nothing more rewarding than working on interesting projects, with the exception of showcasing your pride and joy at CES. Here at Butterfly Labs, we bring our experience almost to market for specialty applications in Industry, Education and Government, recently attempted to satisfy Bitcoin miners. Each project is unique, well funded (very well-funded now) and has a real and virtual world application. It's a deeply rewarding environment, and boy do we pile it on deep.

Please considering joining us, and don't bother bringing a feather--we have the whole damn chicken here outside beautiful Kansas City.

Sonny Vleisides
President

djd

Ma!
Yea, Pa!
I think me found that rascal who sold them lottery tickets to Aunt Mabe a dozen years ago.
Well bless your heart, Pa. Now maybe you can keep the promise you gave at her death bed.
Ma, get me my...
Here it is, Pa.
Don't wait up for me.
Didn't last time, Pa. Give me a kiss before you...
Ain't got time! Gotta get a scootin'.

It looks like English but can't make heads or tails out of that...
816  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 7770's at newegg for $78 w/ free shipping (after rebate) on: April 09, 2013, 08:05:08 PM
Good for weak PSUs.

Bad for density and occupies a valuable slot for a measly 200MH/s.
817  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL RIP OFF... price up 90%, 50GH/s for 2499$. on: April 04, 2013, 07:52:05 PM
God damn liars!  I guess my discount voucher is about as useful as my preorder  Angry
818  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: List of Avalon ASIC batch 3 orders on: April 01, 2013, 06:32:35 PM
User            Order number      3 or 4 modules      Total ordered     With ATX PSU (Y/N)         Date Paid              Shipper        Dest. Country
============================================================================================================
Bitsaurus          50xx                   4                       1                         N                               3/25                  DHL               USA
819  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Any Bitcoin Meetups in the Los Angeles or Orange County Areas? USA on: March 27, 2013, 07:09:37 AM
Darn missed another meetup.  Was busy selling junk to buy more BTC!
820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELLO EVERYONE, I AM OFFERING 1/2 A PPC COIN?!! FOR FREE! on: March 25, 2013, 04:04:12 AM
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