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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][EBZ] Ebitz Open Sale Nov. 28 - POS - Zero Knowledge Proof - Deep Web
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on: November 25, 2016, 12:30:39 PM
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Nope, the way I see it, the route for you to raise those 500 BTC should really be simple.
1. You get reputable escrower(s) in place.
2. You do your ICO successfully and raise your 500 BTC.
3. You deliver on that DM integration.
4. Escrower releases the funds
5. Hookers and Blow all round.
SIMPLES.
We appreciate your suggestion and we will keep it in mind. I ask you to wait until the weekend for our final decision. If our decision does not please you, you are free not to invest in us. Thanks I want to invest but your reticence in terms of escrow and the excuse about anonymity is just a bit strange.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][EBZ] Ebitz Open Sale Nov. 28 - POS - Zero Knowledge Proof - Deep Web
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on: November 25, 2016, 12:15:18 PM
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DeadBirdzz, as we said there are different views in our group and we are aware of the disadvantage that would result in not using an escrow. But because of the nature of our proposal there is a certain disquiet to use an intermediary who keeps the funds. Having the use of Ebitz from the first moment in the DW can generate us many enemies, we dont want to be the next Ross Ulbricht. We know that SebastianJu or Lutpin are totally reliable but we are not sure that our plan, for the scope that it may have, is to everyone's liking. Let's hope it has been understood. We do not expect that everyone think like us, it's just our look. Each one must do their own risk assessment. It is great to see this amount of external companies back up the Ebitz project and they even have a dark market inside, so big win.
I think that one of the biggest advantage of this project is that they are focusing on the real use of the coin and the ways to attrack more money/investments. This is great, a product to be successful must know how to sell itself. Like Steve Jobs who just sell the ideas of Dennis Ritchie or Thomas Edison with Nikola Tesla. The industry only takes existing ideas/tech (Zcash) and improves them and makes them attractive so that their use becomes massive. (Ebitz).
My opinion about the limit is that the best is remove it, the investors will decide if this project collect 100-500-1000 btc, it is an open sale.
Thank you for your perspective on our project. Sorry, no, I am not buying this crap about your security and an intermediary keeping the funds. Having an escrow is key. That DM spiel can all be true but it could also be all a bunch of hot air....... Also, if that were the case, why wouldn't that Dark Market that wants to use EBITZ give you the funds directly themselves if they are that interested? If they are that concerned about their security and that of their customers, they would do that in a heart beat....
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on: November 25, 2016, 11:26:03 AM
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DeadBirdzz, welcome!
As we said before, its a different situation for us. We use escrow two times (always with great results), first with SebastianJu and now with Lutpin for the signature campaign. But there are a small movements and we use our own private funds (we are not linked to them in anyway). We will give our final words during the weekend.
Bye
The way I see it, you people seem obviously serious about hitting all the targets you have set yourselves. So if you guys are actually the real deal, you should have no issues agreeing to an escrow, irrespective of the amounts being raised. In fact, having a independent and reputable escrow(s) can only help you achieve your goals. To me, it is really a no-brainer. Yes, but our doubt about using it is not the fear of not doing what we say. The problems are different. Our proposal is risky (-talking about the safety of our members-, our anon is really important) but we know that if we decide to dont use an escrow we will receive a much smaller amount of funds. There are many voices in our group. During the weekend we will make the announcement about the escrow and if we remove the limit or not (maybe an option could be to increase it). Bye and thanks for your input sorry, but I don't get those concerns about anonymity.... You can use an escrow and still be anonymous........
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on: November 25, 2016, 11:17:18 AM
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DeadBirdzz, welcome!
As we said before, its a different situation for us. We use escrow two times (always with great results), first with SebastianJu and now with Lutpin for the signature campaign. But there are a small movements and we use our own private funds (we are not linked to them in anyway). We will give our final words during the weekend.
Bye
The way I see it, you people seem obviously serious about hitting all the targets you have set yourselves. So if you guys are actually the real deal, you should have no issues agreeing to an escrow, irrespective of the amounts being raised. In fact, having independent and reputable escrow(s) can only help you achieve your goals. To me, it is really a no-brainer.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zdash Private Secure Transactions [bounties][Launched]
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on: November 24, 2016, 11:36:14 PM
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Which do you think could move up between the two, ebitz or zdash. I'm sorry for asking, which of them gets to be better in the future?
EBZ for sure... Ebitz seems more convincing and their team look more organized & well prepared.. let's wait & see.. there will be a hard competition between zcash & its clones & among its clones.. big money involved.. the best coin will survive.. the rest will be dead... I'm very impressed with Ebitz work... ZDASH is like shit when you compare it with Ebitz. Scammers are typically very professional. You're a prime example, PLACEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOo EBZ looks the part but they don't have any escrow in place.
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