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481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: August 25, 2014, 01:45:41 PM
I've updated to the latest bitmonerod and simplewallet and now when I try to exit the bitmonerod (with the exit command) it just hangs and I have to manually close the window causing me to have to resync every time I reopen. I deleted the poolstate and p2p files, and the issue still persists. I'm running Windows 64-Bit, any workarounds for this? Thanks!

Can you use the save command? If so use that before force exiting.
482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: August 25, 2014, 12:21:01 PM
I was beginning to wonder if my post was somehow invisible Smiley
The silence was unexpected after my post, I am glad somebody at least read it

I read it, but realized I needed to research and fully understand your teleports before making a comment, it's very interesting work you're are doing.

Smiley
483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 24, 2014, 07:21:42 AM
If you guys added a Turing complete smart contract system into XC to compete with Ethereum that would make this currency automatically worth 10 times more.
484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: August 24, 2014, 06:03:16 AM
IPv4 addresses ran out too. It doesn't mean it had no purpose. In due time, more than 2 million addresses can be accommodated, if there is demand for it down the road. Chains can evolve. For now this is a great feature that no other CN coin has and can serve well within its limitations. It should be appreciated, not dung-coated as something bad. I doubt bagholders who are dedicated to one coin world domination have any desire to see any success from any other coin.

The concern trolling from certain individuals brings out the stubbornness, if there is something like that, in Zoidberg. He knows the folks who have no interest in this project, but keep bringing up concocted problems and concerns about it, while silently hoping it all just goes away.



You're like the most defensive person ever.

I didn't say it was bad, I effectively said:

The alias system needs work, and instead of saying it is this way because of "vision" Zoidberg should instead work on making it better right now, especially because Zoidberg was earlier saying he wants all the tech in place asap because he is against hardforks.

So waiting for a while to fix the alias system is actually counter to Zoidberg's philosophy.

This is my first post that I actually tried to give some useful advice to Zoidberg, it's actually in my interest for Zoidberg to leave the alias system in the current state it is in.
485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: August 24, 2014, 05:33:11 AM
Supply figures with an asterisk indicate that the coin cannot be mined, i.e. not proof-of-work. Interesting too, how many of these are ranking higher this month.

What I am seeing is that a large proportion of well renowned experts in Crypto are starting to talk about PoW being a failure and that there must be another way. The Bitshares people, James from Nxt and BitcoinDark, Vitalik and even your idea suggests the future lay in PoS in some form.

The only people supporting PoW at the moment with large credibility are the Bitcoin core developers.

Anyone care to explain if things like dPoS are really the future, or is PoW still the most secure way to run a decentralized network?
486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: August 24, 2014, 05:24:54 AM
I see aliased mostly as an option for business in future(like a visit card or for colored coins) and a personal aliases for early adepts or persons who able just to buy it.
doesn't this run into the problem of anyone being able to take any alias they want?

suppose, for example, newegg wants to have @newegg for their alias but someone else has taken it already. they can take another alias that works but there's still someone out their with the company name as their alias.

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So i've decided to have only one alias per block, we have 720 blocks per day - it's 263 520 aliases per year, seems to be a enough and reasonable.
fair enough; i guess most people won't be needing to share their alias with someone since we have addresses that we can just copy and paste  Smiley

It runs into the same problem that domain names do - someone already registered a bunch of obvious ones very early in the game, for example.

They're transferrable, if you can get in touch with the owner, though that part of the code isn't entirely ready.  An alias can be re-bound to a different public key, so the person who registers 'newegg' could sell it to them.  Or, one could imagine, could be forced to transfer it via WIPO or some other organization, should BBR succeed to that degree.

If alias's are a good idea, then people should be able to register enough for everyone, like a domain name or an email address. In addition, like a domain name, an alias should perhaps cost a certain amount per year otherwise they get released and it would cost a lot to just sit on them.

Thing is, at the moment people might get into boolberries in five years as CryptoCoins are in their height, and someone is attracted to boolberry because of alias only to find out that less than 2 million alias exist and there are not enough for everyone, now alias is useless to the little guy, only the early adopter or rich gets an alias.

It's a poorly thought out idea and its shortcomings are "vision".

Zoidberg is a smart guy, even though I am anti-boolberries, I think that if he stopped being stubborn about this he could figure out a way to make it fair and useful making boolberries an even more attractive investment. I actually think Zoidberg could solve this and actually make it useful, perhaps even go a step further and compete with Namecoin?

For example, Nxt alias can be registered by anyone and is decentralized, perhaps use that as a starting point. The downside to the Nxt system is that there is no recurring fee, which I believe should be a thing.
487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: August 23, 2014, 11:36:09 AM

I am actually surprised at the current network hash rate. Why is anyone still mining this at the low price?


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488  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is an Altcoin on: August 23, 2014, 03:19:05 AM
Bitcoin is the first true crypto currency and all the other projects inspired by it are alt coins.

Even Monero, which I support, is an alt coin, even though it is completely different from Bitcoin and shares no code at all.

Most alt coins are complete crap, however some alt coins are superior to Bitcoin in some ways, so don't take offense to these coins being called alt coins.

Being called an alt coin is not in any way derogatory.
489  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Opinions] IF you could improve/add/remove 1 thing to bitcoin what would it be? on: August 23, 2014, 01:56:52 AM

Not 100% true, anyone can be traced with the slightest clues left behind.

Mix into Monero and then mix back out again a using a different exchange. Hopefully the liquidlty will keep increasing to make this viable for larger and larger amounts of Bitcoin.
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero XMR ... Why do people fall for the shills and bullshit? on: August 23, 2014, 01:49:59 AM
So my point that hardfork is a bad case for currency, especcialy for widespread currency.

This is actually a good area to discuss.

My personal view is that crypto coins are a social contract between the develelopers and the users. The main branch of the coin (that has the brand) is the initial social contract (expectations) between the developers and the users.

If the users do not like something, they can then split and follow a new brand.

Example. Monero team in one year changes x in the code and hardfork happens. This is ok in my view because by using monero I agree to use this coin that is being developed by these developers. Of course there is a level of trust, if too many people disagree with the change then the coin will most likely be destroyed.

Let's not be naive. If the social contract with Monero was "the coin will never have any major changes even though competitors will most likely emerge" then I would not invest, and this is one of the reasons I wanted to move some money out of Bitcoin, because they are not reacting to the world at becoming complacent.

These currencies are not 100% trust less. You need to trust the market, the miners and the developers.

491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Opinions] IF you could improve/add/remove 1 thing to bitcoin what would it be? on: August 22, 2014, 02:26:55 PM
Untraceability

That's already solved.
492  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: August 22, 2014, 02:19:19 PM
So.. When do we start the hunt for blood

I think most of the shareholders have just given up and are trying to move on (which is what the scammer would want of course!) and no one seems serious about taking Ken and his scamming family down.

Most of the shareholders at most have talked to some Government entity, but it seems that very few people are actually engaging Ken directly in court. I assume the shareholders that have taken Ken to court are instead making out of court settlements, because court records are public and I am sure someone would have found a court case involving Ken and some shareholder.
493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (XMR) Speculation thread on: August 22, 2014, 02:15:11 PM
Well to be honest I read your threads and the main Monero thread way more than this one, I wouldn't mind if a moderator closed it.

Not sure, but I believe the OP has the right to lock a thread, also not self-moderated..

Well I can't find the option anywhere...
494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XMR] rpietila Monero Economics thread on: August 22, 2014, 02:14:11 PM
At given prices (~0.0035) approximately 21000 BTC or at given dollar prices 10 Million $ have to be invested in xmr over the next 12 months to keep the price stable.

Litecoin will require at least $20,000,000 in the same time period to remain where it currently is, and that is after having a cap of over a hundred million $.

If Monero starts getting accepted by the community as the default anonymous coin and as second place to Bitcoin, $10,000,000 to sustain the current price is nothing.



litecoin is out of debate (for me it is overvalued crap, which at best solves the function to be an insurance for a 51% attack on btc or something similiar).

it is just the comparison of xmr and btc.

That makes things more interesting!

Bitcoin requires about $1.8 million per day to sustain its price, If Monero attracted x% of that investment as being the only true alternative to Bitcoin because of its completely different purpose and design, then we could sustain a price of y.

x = 1%, y = 0.0021
x = 5%, y = 0.01

I might have messed up my math {
- sustain bitcoin @ $500 for a year = $650mil
- xmr coins now 2.9 mil - xmr coins in a year 9 mil = 6.1 mil xmr coins.
- get percent of bitcoin investment per year. so 5% = $32mil
- amount @ 5% = $32mil / price of bitcoin @ $500 / amount of XMR coins = y
}

But it seems to work out that if Monero captures 1% of Bitcoin investment, then we are looking at 0.002 which is a disaster, but 5% would be very high at 0.01

I honestly believe that capturing 3% - 5% of the money going into Bitcoin is certainly possible.
495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XMR] rpietila Monero Economics thread on: August 22, 2014, 01:53:13 PM
At given prices (~0.0035) approximately 21000 BTC or at given dollar prices 10 Million $ have to be invested in xmr over the next 12 months to keep the price stable.

Litecoin will require at least $20,000,000 in the same time period to remain where it currently is, and that is after having a cap of over a hundred million $.

If Monero starts getting accepted by the community as the default anonymous coin and as second place to Bitcoin, $10,000,000 to sustain the current price is nothing.

496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (XMR) Speculation thread on: August 22, 2014, 12:32:22 PM
Also, the trolls are so stupid and their arguments so weak that they are in fact helping our cause, I think.

Unfortunately, the sane people typically don't want to read stuff with a low signal-to-noise ratio, so this is the reason the trolls should be deleted. It hinders adoption.

Well to be honest I read your threads and the main Monero thread way more than this one, I wouldn't mind if a moderator closed it.

Smiley

In addition, I think we really need a good official forum and move some of the heavier technical talk into our own community.
497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (XMR) Speculation thread on: August 22, 2014, 12:28:22 PM
Also, the trolls are so stupid and their arguments so weak that they are in fact helping our cause, I think.
498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (XMR) Speculation thread on: August 22, 2014, 12:26:36 PM
Perhaps a self-moderated topic is the way to go next time.

Perhaps, but then we might be accused of censorship. Also I believe you already have a dedicated and moderated Monero speculation economics thread (which currently serves a similar purpose), I guess the good thing about mine is that it draws in the low level troll talk and hopefully leaves yours to be the place for more serious talk.

Smiley
499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero XMR ... Why do people fall for the shills and bullshit? on: August 22, 2014, 10:44:01 AM
A pile of junk coin, that has made its position by somehow replacing LTC as the second coin to trade on Poloniex.

It has features, though, but sadly the features are pointless, and can never go beyond appealing to teenagers and unmarried men in their thirties that have prostituted themselves to become Monero Shills. OMFG!

Horrible coin.

How is being truly anonymous pointless?

Your first point is completely ridiculous, are you a fan of transparent transactions that make litecoin less private than a PayPal account?

The world is changing, slow movers get left behind.
500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: August 21, 2014, 11:49:35 PM
Big difference, Ring Signatures is embedded in Monero, Coinshuffle is not in bitcoin(it's a 3rd party mixer). Also, there isn't even a prototype for it.

Bryan Vu from Google is working on an implementation of CoinShuffle and has developed a simulator:

https://github.com/bryanvu/coinshuffle-sim
https://github.com/bryanvu/coinshuffle-server
http://simulator.devbtc.com
http://shuffle.devbtc.com


But why would I want to use something that has a smaller anonymity set and is simply not as anonymous?

All these competitors to Monero really fall down hard, and I cannot understand why you're supporting such inferior ideas, perhaps you're a troll?
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