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621  Economy / Economics / Re: Difficulty.....It can't keep going up 30% each increase. on: December 20, 2013, 12:13:26 PM
Free electricity?  I would love to see the face of your landlord when he sees the bill from your 2 Neptunes hashing all day Smiley
In Russia "free" electricity is rather common!
BTW, no single industrial-scale miner will ever be able to compete with a nerd keeping his miner in the basement connected to "free" electricity!   Wink Grin

You seem to forget that industrial-scale miners can get free or almost-free electricity too. Many Southern-European industries are moving to North Africa because Government gives them free electricity.

If free electricity is needed for big corporations to be competitive, then big corporations will have free electricity. That's how capitalism works.
622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: After the China news: Restaurants starting to accept bitcoin in beijing on: December 20, 2013, 12:05:46 PM

You really believe that crap? Tell me which restaurant specifically.....

LOL what a joke these guys are..... , they're pumping QuarkCoin like no tmr as well.


You mean the joke about max keiser telling his audience to buy Bitcoin back when it was $5.00.

And so? He got that right, but that doesn't change the fact the guy is a clown. BTW, he got it wrong with precious metals (especially silver), screaming BUY BUY BUY at the very peak of the bubble.

Finally, the reasons they list about why Quark is "much more secure than Bitcoin" are ridiculous and demonstrate that these guys are CLUELESS and they know SHIT about what they're talking about. They are just histerically pumping.
623  Economy / Speculation / Re: New paradigm - the bubble that never pop? on: December 20, 2013, 09:19:55 AM
5%? More like 0.5%. Block reward is still orders of magnitude more relevant than fees - and that's not bound to change in the short time.
624  Economy / Speculation / Re: New paradigm - the bubble that never pop? on: December 20, 2013, 09:08:47 AM
LOL, this quarrel between you two just reminded me the below 2011 conversation, when price was $11:

My best bet the price of bitcoins will stay the same as it is now for a longer period, possibly till transaction fees become more relevant than mining.

Well then you didn't quite read the above thread ElectricMucus Smiley Demand will not stay at the same level, and transaction fees have little to nothing to do with it.

Good call ElectricMucus Cheesy
625  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2013, 08:46:16 AM
I am buying with cash, gold, and some silver.

I am long term bullish, but sell when clients want to. Inducing panic only hurts my own holdings, which I have not sold a single BTC of.

Your life is pretty interesting. Very cool-- thank you for your decency. Bitcoin is good peeps. Cheers

Tip for our dear early adopters, if you get are annoyed by these "Loaded" guys, take a notice how he mentioned buying with gold and silver.
If you read between the lines they are close to exhausting their funds. I wouldn't hope for a bigger sucker at this point....

Tip for our dear early adopters, if you get are annoyed by this "ElectricMucus" guy, take a notice how he mentioned that he doesn't own bitcoins and doesn't trade bitcoins.
If you read between the lines he is just here to troll. He is hoping you are a big sucker.

He is one of the early rejectors.

Poor guy sold too many BTC too early. If he had believed a little more, now he would have dozens of millions in usd.

Early rejectors follow similar patterns. They've been predicting BTC going to near-zero for years. When and if that happens, they will proudly scream: I TOLD YOU SO, regardless of BTC having gone to 4, 5 or 6 figures before the final crash.

From now on, the only satisfaction they pursue is to be right at some point. It's interesting to see how most early rejectors are into scamcoins, litecoin above all - that's very telling and demonstrates the kind of butthurt they are feeling.
626  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 11:37:59 PM
The big question is: Is Loaded the Winkledouches?

I'd bet for "no", they seem to have different styles.... But I won't bet too much.


Only one way to find out:

Yo, loaded! Nice try to freeload on Zuckerberg. When exactly did that seem like a good idea?


(see, if he gets defensive, he's a Winklevoss. I'm *great* at psychology, I tell you.)

it doesnt work if you tell what you're doing Cheesy

did i understood correctly that Loaded smuggled shitload of $ to china to buy cheap coins? Grin

Sshh, don't ask too many questions, bro.

BTW: yours was a bold move loaded, good job - those coins won't hit the market in panic I guess, better for everybody.

In other news: what to do with tens of millions of USD in cash in China? First world problems I guess Cheesy
627  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 11:19:13 PM
The big question is: Is Loaded the Winkledouches?

I'd bet for "no", they seem to have different styles.... But I won't bet too much.
628  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 11:16:51 PM
Picked up a large amount of BTC that would otherwise have hit the market, at the CNY rate.

Its not very difficult to bring large amounts of USD into China on a private plane. I have a close relationship with my A&P.

Single or multiple sellers?
629  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 10:36:19 PM
Care to explain wtf is overstock.com to an European fellow that never heard about them before?
Typical forum member, why research it myself and get real answers, when I can ask manipulators, schemers, and total schmucks...

Mine was just a way of saying that nobody knows who the f is overstock.com outside the US - and no, overstock is not only "one step behind amazon", in terms of turnover is at least 30 steps behind amazon, which is indeed a global brand.

I guess my irony was not very good, sorry for that.
630  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 09:29:18 PM
Care to explain wtf is overstock.com to an European fellow that never heard about them before?
631  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 07:10:08 PM
what a shame.... Max keiser brings a clone to Maxkeiser report to talk about Quark ... he said "for me it is the best coins out there because it is more secure...." WTF !!!?Huh   http://youtu.be/0oYkMLph6NA?t=19m14s

these are criminals, they pump and dump, these are the people who makes me question the concept of crypto each time I hear them


Anyone listening to this clowns is a moron, full stop. They speak nonsense and are mostly clueless. Quark is an instamined scam, very insecure because of its fast maturity. That's so obvious that is painful.

I'm amazed by the amount of supporters Max Keiser has on this forum. It's pathetic.

pre-mined ...cough ... enough say


oh and market cap means nothing because its bases on total qrkcoins in few hands..... yeah



The fact is pre/insta mined speaks for itself, I agree... But also that those clows say that it is "more secure because the algorythm is more complex and thus more difficult for the NSA to crack" is utter nonsense and demonstrate these guys know NOTHING and just spit bullshit. Quark is in fact very insecure because of its too fast maturity - in just a few months the reward will drop to 1 Quark per block. No more financial incentives for the miners to mine and very cheap 51% attack for an hostile entity, unless adoption and transfer volumes skyrockets exponentially and thus high fees make a high enough incentive. That won't happen.

Quark is a pathetic scam, everybody buying them with the hopes of it being "something" is a retarded and Max Keiser and the other moron are just clowns who were probably bribed by those who created the Quarkcoin scam.
632  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: December 19, 2013, 07:02:07 PM
Time for an update. How is that red-black-yellow-whatever listing going, Mike?

633  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 06:57:51 PM
what a shame.... Max keiser brings a clone to Maxkeiser report to talk about Quark ... he said "for me it is the best coins out there because it is more secure...." WTF !!!?Huh   http://youtu.be/0oYkMLph6NA?t=19m14s

these are criminals, they pump and dump, these are the people who makes me question the concept of crypto each time I hear them


Anyone listening to this clowns is a moron, full stop. They speak nonsense and are mostly clueless. Quark is an instamined scam, very insecure because of its fast maturity. That's so obvious that is painful.

I'm amazed by the amount of supporters Max Keiser has on this forum. It's pathetic.
634  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: December 19, 2013, 02:53:50 PM
Yes, some of us have a very pronounced "cultist" side regarding Bitcoin, and we are not in it only for the fiat profits.

Probably that's one of the things that make Bitcoin so resilient, while on the other side greed is the best fuel to make it go viral. Effective combination.

Do you think Satoshi created Bitcoin to "make money"?

Strange assertion coming from someone who despises (and rightfully does so IMO) scamcoins. Normally those who admit being into BTC just to make money are very much into alts pump and dumps.

Excellent point, never thought of it like that. Goes into my btc quotes file.

I always thought that Bitcoin was designed on purpose to make it skyrocket very fast - it's the best way to make it go viral because there's nothing that motivates more than pure profit/greed. In fact, there are times in which I entertain the idea that Bitcoin is just a "trojan horse" which real purpose is to spread the blockchain (which has many other revolutionary purposes apart from being a way of transferring value) as fast as possible.
635  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 07:59:12 AM

If you want to operate in Gox with 1 day transfers, then that's what you need.

I appreciate Gox is in Japan...its just we weren't talking about Gox (were we OldGeek?)

I gave up trying to get money out of Gox long ago...I think you need to be very connected or very rich to do that....of which I am neither may I add Wink

Yeah we were kinda-sorta talking about MtSux.  However, I'm trying to figure out, in my tiny brain, how exactly people think that arbi is being carried out.  Any exchange 'could' work if everything was right.  I just don't see it happening.

Because is not happening.
636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dogecoin: Is it real? on: December 19, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
Wow.

Doge made me rich.

Just sold all my doge OTC. I got $10 million, a Bitcoin early adopter was the buyer.

I bought a Ferrari and a boat that I will park in the Genova area in Italy.

Thank you doge, Thank you community, Thank you buyer: I fulfilled all my dreams.
637  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 12:04:03 AM
Anyone care to guess the bottom on this one?

Die hard nay sayers say sub $200

$298 for me.
638  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dogecoin: Is it real? on: December 19, 2013, 12:02:23 AM
Is it actually worth 0.1 BTC per doge? that's what it says on cryptsy... should I sell all my coins right now or wait?

Wow. Such retard. Very greed.

639  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2013, 11:57:02 PM
Were in for another sell off
With which coins?

www.blockchained.com

For the first time, ask volume decreased during the crash, proving that the sells were pure panic. By this time after the november, 900-450 crashcorrection, ask volume had doubled and reached eventually triple the magnitude. In april it also skyrocketed to 4-5 times the initial value.  Now it shows absolutely no will to even get back to pre-crash levels.
Honestly, I'm at a loss for how ask depth is a useful indicator here. We have no idea how many coins are waiting in the wings, off the books. And we don't know the extent of arbitrage being done by Chinese traders.

^This. I still can't believe there's such a huge gap between Gox & BTC China. May not be so easy to arbitrage. But was there always a 100 difference between prices?

BTCchina used to be higher than gox as I remember it.  by quite a bit.  now it's 100 lower.

Arbitrage has never been possible between the western and the Chinese exchange, the only one bragging about how he was doing arbitrage was rpietila, demonstrating how he's just full of shit.

Are we sure about that?

Yes. If arbitrage was possible we wouldn't have such spreads, the market would immediately take care of them. Arbitrage is risk free profit, if it's possible to have it you exploit it.

And btw, I respectfully proved how rpietila was not making "arbitrage" between China and Stamp, but he deleted all my posts.

The problem is that you cannot efficiently move fiat between exchanges.

http://reuters.com/article/2013/12/11/us-china-bitcoin-idUKBRE9BA0B020131211

The spread between china and stamp/Gox has been consistently big. Exchanging RMB for USD cheaply and efficiently its complicate for "foreign traders". In fact, on rpietilas post I politely asked him to explain how he managed to move fiat between western and China exchange. He answered that he didn't, his way of doing "arbitrage" was buying low on stamp, selling high on BTCChina, and then patiently waiting for the spread to go to 0 or near 0, to then buy the coins on China again and sell them on stamp.

I guess that anybody with half a brain understands that has nothing to do with arbitrage. Arbitrage needs to be quasi immediate and risk free by definition. The above process is not risk free at all: you need to bet on the spread going at 0 or near 0 (and you need to waste resources monitoring that), and what happens if in the meantime the price doubles? That you lost half of your coins, that's not arbitrage.

Don't believe what Reuters writes - they are clueless. Probably the "journalist" documented himself by reading Risto's delusional ramblings, or checking the BTC-E troll box. There is one hard cold fact that proves that arbitrages between exchanges is not possible: the spread is consistently high among ALL of them. When arbitrage is possible, the spread is zero - full stop.
640  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2013, 11:35:53 PM
Were in for another sell off
With which coins?

www.blockchained.com

For the first time, ask volume decreased during the crash, proving that the sells were pure panic. By this time after the november, 900-450 crashcorrection, ask volume had doubled and reached eventually triple the magnitude. In april it also skyrocketed to 4-5 times the initial value.  Now it shows absolutely no will to even get back to pre-crash levels.
Honestly, I'm at a loss for how ask depth is a useful indicator here. We have no idea how many coins are waiting in the wings, off the books. And we don't know the extent of arbitrage being done by Chinese traders.

^This. I still can't believe there's such a huge gap between Gox & BTC China. May not be so easy to arbitrage. But was there always a 100 difference between prices?

BTCchina used to be higher than gox as I remember it.  by quite a bit.  now it's 100 lower.

Arbitrage has never been possible between the western and the Chinese exchange, the only one bragging about how he was doing arbitrage was rpietila, demonstrating how he's just full of shit.

Are we sure about that?

Yes. If arbitrage was possible we wouldn't have such spreads, the market would immediately take care of them. Arbitrage is risk free profit, if it's possible to have it you exploit it.

And btw, I respectfully proved how rpietila was not making "arbitrage" between China and Stamp, but he deleted all my posts.

The problem is that you cannot efficiently move fiat between exchanges.
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