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So.........I just got my first lot of 20 L3++
It seems that everyone was right. The L3 "++" is just an overclocked L3+........literally no difference in efficiency.
Bamboozled again!
I resemble your pain....got 6 L3+'s about 6 weeks ago...thou....with the all the alt crypto I'm turning over to usd at least I can point to the IRS and say I'm a miner....see the pretty 6 L3+'s I added to my hoard of miners for 2018!....god help me, I don't want the IRS to think I'm trading crypto...they really, really, hate those guys! an't much, but 'self-delusion' is all I have left as I HODL.....(reality bites!) I should have someone start a pool for when I crack and sell it all.....ack! FML brad I sold out of nearly all my holdings in late 2017 and am currently in the re-accumulation phase. I'm holding what I mine and am even buying additional chunks. Goal is to cost average back into my initial position or more by the end of 2018. I envision we will see 2-3x rise off the bottoms going into the 2019 halving. Just not sure if that means we're going from 30-90, 50-150, 150-450, etc. If my theory of coming back 2-3x off the bottoms is correct, buying or holding here would be ok as long as we don't go much below 50-75. Of course, I really have no idea what I'm talking about so don't actually follow what I'm doing. |
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Just thought I'd let people know, I ran the tool on my L3++ and the default voltage appears to be 0x60 instead of 0x80 like on the L3+.
so the L3 ++ uses less power at the same hash rate as the L3+ ? . i might buy one more in about two weeks i have a 200 $ coupon some one gave me . sense I looked at the L3 ++ it says you can only use a 220 coupon or lower and mine expires on June 1 st. My understanding is that 0x60 is actually a higher voltage than 0x80. It comes with the frequency set at 450 and hashes around 580-585. I undervolted all but 1 board that I get hardware errors on to 0x90. |
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Ok, so can SSH into the miner no problem and see root dir but had a issue sending the file over using WinSCP. Do I use the command line option in WinSCP to copy the file over? The voltage file is in my download directory so used: scp c:/users/home computer/downloads/set_voltage root@192.168.1.140:/config I got an error so something in line might be wrong? I am also on windows. I used Putty SCP and had trouble at first as well. I resolved my issues by forcing scp (vs sftp) using the -scp flag. By default it was trying to use sftp and would give me an error. Maybe something similar on WinScp? |
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Just thought I'd let people know, I ran the tool on my L3++ and the default voltage appears to be 0x60 instead of 0x80 like on the L3+.
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thanks, will wait for your results. @jstefanop
i wouldn't mind to pay for working version that can easily be updated using GUI.. is that possible since most of us here are probably using hosting facility. Has anyone tried down volting L3++ via lowering standard frequencies? any results?
I haven't, but I will be. My goal for this weekend is to tent my setup. In the coming days I'll try the down volting. Need to make sure they're setup and stable in their new home first. I was able to set the voltage on the L3++ to 0x90 on all but 1 of the boards. On one I left it at the default for the L3++ of 0x60 which is interestingly higher than the L3+ which is 0x80. |
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@jstefanop
i wouldn't mind to pay for working version that can easily be updated using GUI.. is that possible since most of us here are probably using hosting facility. Has anyone tried down volting L3++ via lowering standard frequencies? any results?
I haven't, but I will be. My goal for this weekend is to tent my setup. In the coming days I'll try the down volting. Need to make sure they're setup and stable in their new home first. |
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Just fired up my L3++ that came last night. I as many figured it would just be the L3+ overclocked, but decided to buy one for science so that I could report back. Here is what I found: - Hardware Version: 1.0.1.3 - This is the same as other recent L3+ machines I've gotten. I have one L3+ from an early batch which was at 1.0.1.1
- Frequency: 450
- Chip Temps - Out of the box I'm seeing temps at 68-69. Other recent L3+ machines I've gotten I have at 438, those are running at 56-59.
- Hash Rate - Have only been running for 30 minutes, but it's current average is 584.54, other recent machines I've gotten are at 570@438
- Fan Speed - I haven't adjusted fan's on either box. I noticed that the new L3++ was at 3,300 and the newer L3+ is at 4,230
- Power At Wall - Sorry, I am not currently measuring this.
In summary, I think people's suspicions were correct. I think I just paid 506 (606 - 100 coupon) for the same box I got for 262 (462 - 200 coupon) for a while back. |
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Thanks! I am very excited to try this.
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Or search for latest blissz firmware.
Easy overclocking and lower power usage.
I am at 570mhz and still 800watt
What "Hardware Version" are you on from the System/Overview screen? I was just looking at mine and realized one of the newer machines I got is at 1.0.1.3 where my original (batch 2 I think) from May 2017 is 1.0.1.1. The thing I noticed is that the newer machine is running at chip temps of ~48-50 and the older machine is running at chip temps of 60-63. Both are set at the same out of the box frequency. Made me wonder if my newer box already is a L3++ and has plenty of room to over clock. Will be interesting to see the hardware version on the new ones and what the frequency is set to. |
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LMAO Searing....I suspect you are closer to the truth than "not".
I ALWAYS want to be wrong...but ever since Bitmain last summer 'took' the order of mine off the truck (according to eastshore.xyz rep) because the price was pumping to $25 then from like $8 bucks or some such...(if I remember correctly) due to a 'firmware error' and they then mined them for 6 weeks...and I got them 8 weeks later...well a bit of suspicion don't ya know..especially when the firmware was labeled YET January 2017... Add all the other 'games' they have played 'since' last summer of 2017..and you begin to 'suspect' a worldwide evil genius plan..... also ..beware of bitmain 'giving coupon' from last year...it is a 'trap' of some sort that will become apparent... but yeah....I'd love to be wrong...but Bitmain moving out of china...current psu's labeled 'hong kong' not 'china' now...coupons that expire end of May...etc etc miners with psu's for a set price ...(likely used and yanked off the shelf) yep, its a trap.....trouble is at 50% income tax (35% plus 10% state plus say 5% social security...so I call it 50% to be safe) I badly need equipment.... so probably will eventually take a chance ..if I can hang out till AFTER the giant dump of asic equip of many flavors by bitmain in march/april but alas, will likely be a 'fail' on my part on how to time to get equipment with this dump of equip/likely new ASIC generations of equip over summer they will mine like hell and of course....even if you WANT to order ...the www site lags out .if you are out of China so you are still F*cked..... yeah.... please, please, let me be wrong! (though a price pump to 300 or 400 LTC would take more than a bit of pressure off....if the ASIC gods are watching)  IT comes down to really, why is bitmain giving coupons? hmmmmm.....why the rush? yeah...afraid its a trap of some sort...we will see... bitmain ...same evil orchestra.....different evil tunes..... rinse/wash/repeat (tm bitmain) If theory I have seen about coupons expiring before you can order next generation machine, then we may be safe on current generation for 6 months. I think my coupons expiring end of June if I remember correctly. So if you figure order July 1 arrive September. That would be worst case. Though maybe we'll see a decred miner before that? Just thinking next gen for L3. |
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For Titan anyways looks like you can still get them off GitHub which I would assume would be a reasonable source. May have the others there as well? https://github.com/KnCMiner/titan/releasesNot sure how SAFE these links are (and/or programs) CHECK FOR MALWARE/VIRUSES! But, if the links below are legit, figured it was worth posting on here as a resource https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/forum/Thread/1046the usual knc miner firrmware links etc and such for their products as downloads anyway, if for some reason is it Virus city....let me know I'll delete this post.but for those who need these bits of firmware, occasionally yet |
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I was planning to try tenting like the guy does in this video. https://youtu.be/UQMrtuGFbt0I have been exhausting heat, but don't have the miners isolated like he does. In the video he mentions being able to go from 2 air conditioning units down to 1. |
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What gets me most is not the fact I have to pay tax or reasonable tax rate, it is complication and vagueness and time-consuming aspect of filing a crypto tax. For conventional income I finished my tax last few years within 1-2 hours of time using taxact software in which it does everything for me for flat fee of around 50-100$. Much faster and convenient, but for crypto, hell no!!
It's actually not too bad. I've been using bitcoin.tax since the 2013 tax season. I do pay the $29/year for premium, I think they just changed that and it was $19/year before. I track my mining, trading, and spending there. For mining, I think the trick is mining into specific mining wallets. The site will then let you enter mining addresses and suck your mining income off the blockchain. My mining wallets never have any inputs that are not mining income. For trading, I simply import the trade history off various sites. They have a slick page where you can pick your trading treatment, e.g. First In First Out, Average Cost, Last In First Out, etc. Spending I usually enter manually as I don't usually do a ton of spending, usually on new miners. |
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I have been using Bitcoin.tax since 2014. I use the paid membership. Mine everything into mining only wallets. Then can setup the addresses as such on the site. This allows me to report my ordinary income for mining. It also has the ability to suck in trade data from various exchanges as well as a tab for tracking spending. Sometimes things get stuck, but have had good luck with them being responsive when they are. I ty to make sure things are working every few months so I can stay on top of where I am at. |
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I use 20amp 12awg wire to 220v outlets..if possible and you have like smaller 14 awg wire just replace a circuit or hack something together thru a piece of electrical conduit and replace and patch
when home mining is done
lots of youtube videos on such
anyway my basement stuff is all done on the above....all 220v
edit: by replace above I mean replace 14 awg wire and 15 amp breaker from box to 220 outlet with 12 awg wire and double pole 220v 20 amp breaker....you can use regular
awg 15 wire ..just mark the white wire at both ends (box and outlet) with black elec tape as they are both no hot thru the double pole breaker)
again youtube videos show all this..just edited to clarify
Yup, if your still dealing with 120v for mining your going to burn something down eventually (especially if the outlet is not near your panel). This is what all my miners run off...DIY 240v junction boxes running 10AWG to 30A double pole breakers in panel (capable of at least 6kw continous draw per box). Each box has relays controlled by wireless pi's, so always have full remote control shutoff/start up for locked hardware etc. Dont need to step foot in mine unless im adding new stuff  How bout that for an equivalent of a 1K USD PDU unit for 50 bucks worth of parts  I have a similar setup with a 220v on double 20 amp breakers for a single L3+. I also have 2x120v outlets each on their own 20amp breaker that I use to run my Titan. I'm feeling like I could run a lot more than I do on each circuit. If you're saying 6kw, does that mean you could run about 4xL3+ with a PDU solution assuming 80% load is safe? I am thinking next go round I need to step up my game. I'm curious what I could get away with given my current panel situation. I don't have much room without adding a sub-panel. I'm guessing it wouldn't be too hard to convert my 2x120v to a single 220 double pole. |
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To piggy back on the 220v questions.
I had a new outlet installed when I purchased by L3+/APW3+ and figured out it wouldn't run on a standard 110v outlet. The electrician said it was a 240v outlet, though I always hear 110v or 220v, so not sure where the discrepancy comes in? I'm sure it's just a gap in my understanding. In any case, the new outlet is on a pair of 20 amp breakers in the panel.
My real question though is if I can run another miner off this circuit? Above it was described that the posters miners are likely running 4 amps on a 220 line, not sure how that fits in with "that outlet is used with 30A"? If I could run more miners on this circuit, what would I need to do?
Sorry to piggy back on the discussion, but seemed like it may be interesting info for the original poster as well.
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Every time I think of all the coins I sold worrying about getting ROI on my Titan, it makes me want to cry. My Titan would kick out 9 coins a day when it first arrived. Even after the difficulty went higher it put out 6 or 7. Then post halving 3 or 4. At these prices, that would be some heavy profits. Instead I sold out early on worrying about getting my fiat back. I still have done really well on the Titan and have a decent stash, just think I left a lot on the table. If I had only believed as much as I claimed I do. Long story short, I plan to hold this time around.
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What is a good price to hire an electrician to upgrade my electric so that I may run all of my miners in my garage? Thank you for all of that detailed info.
Not sure what a "good" price is, but thought I'd share that I paid $340 to have a 240V outlet on a 20A breaker put in. That included the city permit. I didn't shop around b/c I wanted to ensure it was done quickly so it was installed by the time the miner came. I plan on running the APW3+-12-1600W,PSU. Keep in mind, I don't really know what I'm doing. |
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