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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: August 08, 2022, 08:58:03 PM
Any wild forecast and news about the status of this fight?

According to my backread here, seems no good progress till now and everyone is still hanging.

Or I just miss some news that there's progress now? Can anyone share it?

Yes, seems that there is no progress in their must awaited fight and we aren't that sure yet that this fight will really materialize this year. If we search for updates or progress about the Spence-Crawford fight on the internet, we can see that there are new articles that have surfaced but the bottom line is that the fight is still in the works.

Crawford must do something if he's eager to have a fight this year before he gets inactive for a year now. About that, he said that he's looking forward to fighting Jermell Charlo if this undisputed bout won't go through this year.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Fengshui on: August 08, 2022, 08:29:57 PM
what i do believe is that Not only in China but in the whole world as we knew that Chinese scattered around the world and if there is chinese then there will be a fengshui believer and follower.

and also there are fengshui experts now that offers their skills for the businessmen and yeah many are subscribing with this.

Well, you're quite right about that but that is in the old times because nowadays, not all Chinese people are a believer in Feng Shui nor used it in their daily lives or as a lucky charm. So, I think it's not certain to say that all Chinese folks that have scattered almost throughout the world are Feng Shui believers or a follower.

Personally, I don't really believe in these kinds of things but don't take it wrong because I understand and respect their beliefs about it. It's just that I see Feng Shui more as a business for the Chinese people. Just my thought though.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Discussion] Should Gambling be Banned? on: August 08, 2022, 08:08:04 PM
its really funny if any gambling site require KYC for their members.  most of gamblers want their identification hidden from any one , so if their gambling platform ask kyc to use services, i am believe most of them prefer find another platform.
Some gambling sites already treat KYC and other platforms will gradually follow the rules of KYC requirements so you have no other choice but to follow the rules, although I also don't agree with KYC but I don't have a solution when your favorite casino also requires identity verification.

The casinos are just following the guidelines that's why they are implementing KYC because their license to operate could be on the line if they choose not to do so but sometimes, these KYC procedures are being overused by some casinos because they suddenly ask for verification when we decide to withdraw our winnings when in-fact they could see us making deposits in their platform, it's like that they don't want us to withdraw it and they only want to spend it on the platform.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: An alternative to gambling with money. on: August 08, 2022, 07:48:09 PM
This is not a good idea in my own opinion, it is better to abstain from gambling if you looking for a way to take a break, or minimize loses but to some point gambling with fake money does not help the gamblers in any way.
In theory this is something that it could work, the issue is that the reality many times differ with what we can expect out of our theories, gambling with play money may seem like a good alternative as you are not spending money when you gamble and it may seem that over the long term you will reduce the amount of money you use to gamble, however most of the time things happen tin the opposite order, people begin to gamble with play money and then after some time they decide to use real money for their bets, so while using play money instead of regular money may seem like a good idea it is nowhere near as practical as it may seem.

Gambling with real money provides a thrill which gambling with fake money cannot provide.
While the motive behind this idea is really good it simply can't workout because of the mere fact that people gamble with real money to have that adrenaline rush which fake money cannot give them.

I live in the community where money is very very hard earned. Lots of people live below the poverty line so they are always struggling to make their ends meet.
So we don't have much left to spend on entertainment. The most - people do is eat out and go to cinema.
We dont gamble and we cannot throw money away life rich people and people living in developed country does.

Since you people can't gamble because of the lack of money, this means that this idea of gambling with fake money suit you the most. If gambling is available to you with fake money, will you people gamble and get some entertainment? Since you will have nothing to lose, you will enjoy gambling the most. However, i wonder what will the gambling casino earn if they allow gambling with fake money:Smiley

Not a good idea to start either, I mean they are doing just fine even without these fake apps with fake amounts of money, and using these kinds of apps will just put fuel in their hidden desires towards where the real gambling is. I understand the motive and what you're trying to say but the solution you're trying to offer will probably destroy their lives if it turns out that they will be curious about gambling.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 08, 2022, 07:28:24 PM
I agree that he's still the Nonito that we've used to watch but with his fight with Inoue, it is the reality that Inoue is better than him in many aspects which includes the speed.

Where can we read his future plans?

Many agrees that it's time for him to retire and let the younger generation and aspiring ones to excel with his help as a trainor.

Nonito's future plan or Inoue? As far as Nonito, well we have seen the latest update, he wants to continue with his career.

For Inoue, we are hearing that he might go for the unification fight with Paul Butler. It will be huge if the fight is going to happen in UK. But not sure if Inoue will be comfortable, it might be better if the fight is in the US. So that his fans are going to see him and of course makes a name for himself in the US household. Arum knows how to hype him in the States.
On Nonito's future plans.

Well, this is perfect.

That's all I want to know and I thought that he would take the sentiment of his fans to just retire after he has lost to Inoue for the 2nd time. Still, he's got his prowess and all of that strength.

Hopefully, if he ever has another match to come he'll be able to redeem himself at least and gets a win.

Maybe, Donaire feels that it is not yet time for him to retire, hence, still planning to fight.
Now, I am wondering if the fight of Donaire with Casimero will push thru.
Remember, they have disagreements why they haven't fought?
Anyway, whatever his next plans will be, hope that he can achieve what he wants to achieve before he hang up his gloves.

A Donaire vs Casimoer fight will be exciting to see though, no doubt about that. But I think they only have a slight chance that they will share the same ring because Donaire is planning to move to super flyweight which is a lower weight class whereas Casimero might move to the upper weight class somewhere in super bantamweight or featherweight because we know that he's struggling in reducing his weights, what more if he will chase Donaire in super flyweight.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 08, 2022, 07:08:23 PM

The source is saying that Lebron is likely to extend with Lakers for two more years soon. I have been wondering if he would leave the team if they don't make the changes he would like to be more successful. For example, they are still keeping Westbrook in the team which is not a thing that I like. But as long as Lebron doesn't get an offer from a much more favorable team it looks like he is staying.

By the way Lebron's main goal now is to play with his son as it is added in the source as well. He wants to play one season with his son and retire after that.

( The source : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10044509-lebron-james-rumors-all-signs-point-toward-lakers-star-signing-contract-extension )
I thought he is going back to the Cavaliers to play with the young guys there and just say "I'm back" in an Arnold Schwarzenegger style.  Cheesy
Maybe after these 2 more years as he is still in a good condition to add another championship for the Lakers.


Going back to Cavaliers? Nah, I don't think so.  Grin  Cavaliers were absolutely a special team for Lebron. But after he left the team the supporters didn't react very nice to that. I'm not expecting him to go back there from now on to be honest. If he suddenly decides to leave the team then I would like to watch him at one of the biggest candidates of the championship. Because Lebron is still very ambitious and he wants to be the champion still. Lakers can't give this as long as they don't make the necessary changes.
The Lakers' unwillingness to add drafts and or maybe some players in order to trade Westbrook for Kyrie probably ended the negotiation. Lakers' management is torn between going all in while Lebron is still playing very well but sacrificing future drafts. And Lebron is not getting any younger.

Maybe Lebron is willing to return to Cleveland or play with his son once he is not already a top-level player.

The Lakers had that coming because they wanted LeBron James on their roster, so that may affect their situation for the years to come and the new Lakers head coach wanted Westbrook to stay because he believed that he can utilize Westbrook's capabilities while Irving also wanted to stay in the Nets. I remember when Kyrie himself said that he's planning on staying in Brooklyn even if Durant will be traded.

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Maybe Lebron is willing to return to Cleveland or play with his son once he is not already a top-level player.
That still depends on the situation because the only chance that we will see LeBron wearing another jersey is the also team where Bronny gets drafted in somewhere 2-3 years from now.
7  Economy / Gambling / Re: How do you know how to trust online sportsbooks? on: August 07, 2022, 11:58:13 AM
Did he mention Google to search about the casino reviews? Nope, he mention about this forum.

The thing is most people are using google and they're trust the first to third domain since it's a popular sites, this forum has low traffic and people were interested in this forum because of Bitcoin or crypto, not crypto gambling.

We can't prevent this kind problem and most newbie getting end up being scammed, after that they will learn to search more deeply.
Relying on google search feature is not recommended to find the best review sites, website developer optimizes the keywords for the first page of google without details considering the casino listings in the content, even though this forum has low search traffic about crypto gambling but we can increase forum traffic by installing ANN casino links on article content for trusted discussion reference sources.
I agree with that as reviews can be fake, a forum like bitcointalk is a good source, no gambling site here which has an ANN thread that has a biased feedback, we can read real feedback based on the experience of different gamblers, so why not just stick to our beloved forum for reviews?
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas rematch - Oct.8 on: August 07, 2022, 11:39:05 AM
Its good to know that there's a rematch because this is the chance for Ancajas to regain the world title again. In their last fight, Ancajas is lacking of defense and power punches, it seems like he's not in good condition or should I say not prepared at that time. Well, I hope he will redeem himself because he is just starting to establish his name and not yet had a strong opponent aside from Martinez.

He really needs to put his heart and be motivated to get back what he had lost in their last fight to gain back the momentum of his life to push his dream to become a legendary boxer like Manny Pacquiao. Anyway, this is really a big fight for him and I'm sure he trained a lot to get ready for this fight and we might gonna see a different version of him, stronger and have some good strategy on how to beat Martinez, hope that it will work for him.
Martinez was the stronger fighter on their first fight, you can tell  that Ancajas has loss his stamina in the later rounds, reason why he cannot keep up with the challenger. Bouncing back after a big loss is possible, he should also look for a KO, that way it will give him an impressive win.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: August 07, 2022, 09:21:26 AM

In game 3 ML lines. We have Hotshots 2.90 and Bolts 3.25.
Since the slot of SMB is already full, I would like to say best of luck to the SMB bettors, too bad I'm late.  Smiley

If only we can choose two teams to bet for, my second choice is Magnolia because they are a strong team and they have a high chance of upsetting TNT in this semis that's why I found the odds now for them is too attractive.


I think you can choose two teams to bet, because it says that the winner takes all, so the risk is higher on your part because you will only win a smaller amount compared to the total amount you stake, not sure if my understanding is correct.

TNT is by the way coming back, score now is 37-35, they are leading by 2 points.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Online Gambling Streamers Ever Get Addicted to Gambling? on: August 07, 2022, 08:52:26 AM
Anyone can become a gambling addict, but usually, streamers are into business, they are after the promotion so they can earn money. An addicted gambler usually does not talk to anyone, he has his own world as he is solely focused on gambling.

So the answer of the question is "YES".
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: August 07, 2022, 06:46:42 AM
Since both series are tied at 1-1, maybe you can still extend the cut-off time til the next game. Perhaps fans of Magnolia and Meralco want to throw some bets on them. They show good plays in their games earlier.

Yes, bro. That was really the plan and I'm even glad that both series are now even to give an equal chance for those hesitant to place a bet for Magnolia and Meralco. Come on, guys! Please join the fun. Smiley

Just place your desired bet on the team that you think will be crowned as the All-Filipino Champion then we will tally it later on a first come first serve basis.

Php 5,000 / max bet per team

Bet: Php 5,000 max bet/team | Winner Take All

Talk N Text - harizen (Php 5,000) - FULL
Magnolia -
San Miguel Beermen -jakelyson (Php 1,000) , bisdak40 (Php 2,000)
Meralco Bolts -

The cut-off time for placing bets is 5 minutes (4:25 PM) before Game 3 starts on Sunday, August 7, 4:30 PM, PH time.

I will go for 2,000 SMB to win the championship.

It would be nice if the amount will increase as I could go as high as Php7000, so the total bet for the team will be Php10,000.

That would be easy if only there were lots of users who want to participate.

Php 5,000 is only my limit because, in the first place, I'm not even a TNT fan. Cheesy There would be no other bettors for other teams as SMB is always the favorite to win the All-Filipino Cup Champion, especially JMF is now turning into a beast again after a long period of recovering.

Anyways, I've now listed you making the SMB slots FULL.

Bet: Php 5,000 max bet/team | Winner Take All

Talk N Text - harizen (Php 5,000) - FULL
Magnolia -
San Miguel Beermen -jakelyson (Php 1,000) , bisdak40 (Php 2,000) , Sanitough (Php 2,000) - FULL
Meralco Bolts -

I think no one would bet on the Magnolia and Meralco now that we already have an idea of the betting odds.

In game 3 ML lines. We have Hotshots 2.90 and Bolts 3.25.
Since the slot of SMB is already full, I would like to say best of luck to the SMB bettors, too bad I'm late.  Smiley
12  Economy / Lending / Re: DarkStar's Loans | BTC, USDT | 2.70%-5.01% Monthly on: August 07, 2022, 06:26:49 AM
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13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: August 06, 2022, 12:59:38 PM

Danny Garcia might say that Spence is better than Crawford, but I would believe more on Shawn Porter who faced both boxers and IIRC, Porter said that Crawford is the better fighter, so maybe if we listen to this guy, we will have a good basis and we will not be biased.

Yep, obviously. I'm also in favour of what Porter said.
Based on his fight for both Crawford and Spence, I can say Crawford have a better and effective plan against Porter's aggressiveness. We all knew Porter's style of play, Crawford executed very well to deliver that knock out.
He made Porter look an amateur boxers as Crawford has an good strategy of battling Porter's aggressive type of boxing.
The most important part is the KO by Crawford since no boxer has ever KO Porter.

While on the other hand, with his fight against Spence, i can say that was really a close one. Without that round 11 quick knock down, Porter could've won it.

They are just trading punches, it's just that Spence was the stronger fighter so he won the fight, maybe Judges also favored him a bit as he is more popular than Porter.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: August 06, 2022, 11:33:17 AM

Anyways, let's look at the spread of game 3 between Magnolia and TNT, the spread looks suspicious IMO.

TNT -6.5 vs Magnolia, isn't it?

If you believe in fixed game, that line favored TNT, and they will likely cover that spread. However, who knows, maybe that's just a way to stir our mind and we think of backing the TNT and miss a good moneyline odds.
Maybe there's a player that will not play for Magnolia, I think here are the odds in the last two games.

game 1 TNT -3.5
Game 2 TNT -2.5

So this -6.5 really has some big reason behind, and that's what we should find out.
If anyone know some information on the reason, please share it here.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17 on: August 06, 2022, 11:12:39 AM
Although I picked Canelo by KO in the survey, my heart is with GGG as always. I just always follow my head rather than my heart when it comes to betting and predicting.
Same here, I pick Canelo because he have beaten GGG for two times and at the same time I think the trilogy wouldn't be biased if GGG won in the first fight as GGG clearly won for almost people view expect the judges and Canelo's family.

Honestly the odds for Canelo 1.28x isn't bad since most of his fight, his odds is really low as below 1.10x, even for small bettors it's still profitable.

I'd say in boxing, upset is high likely wouldn't happen, it's different with the other sports.

What are the probabilities then? Personally, I'm not betting based on probability, though GGG is an underdog, but since I like him to win I would still bet on him to win, I'm not a taker of a an almost sure win based on the odds, I'd like to gamble more on high odds.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17 on: August 05, 2022, 08:28:00 AM
I understand your point as in the first place, the trilogy will not be initiated and planned for long if there are no doubts and questions about the first result on which Canelo claimed he won already twice that's why before, he's not interested in the trilogy. In fairness though with Canelo, he really shows explosiveness in that fight but it's just that, the entire match is close that any judges will have difficulty scoring.

And since Canelo is the current "cash cow" there are speculations and rumors that judges might be favored him. But that won't be easy as in the event that GGG shows pure dominance in most rounds, I doubt there will be an unfair judgment on the result.

I raised this topic (jury bias) a few weeks back, because I saw the same during the Bivol vs Canelo fight. Bivol completely dominated the fight between these two, but in the end the scorecard(115-113, 115-113, 115-113) was a lot closer than what I thought it should have been. The writing on the wall is clear. Canelo is the cash cow and he needs to be saved at any cost. A second consecutive defeat will not only sink his career, but will also cause huge losses to firms such as Golden Boy and DAZN. 

Really something that GGG should be ready of, he cannot just let the judges to dictate the outcome again, he should win via KO so no more biases. Well, I know GGG understands that already, so for sure he will be training hard to ensure that he would get a convincing win.

He is already in a retirement age, no way the judges will favor him, and although his fans think that he won the last two fights, but if his performance is still the same on the last two fights, then we should not be surprise of the outcome of this fight.

Regardless of his performance, if he will not win in this fight then for sure we will not anymore see another fight. Though GGG might retire but since he didn't mentioned that, then we cannot expect that he will not fight after this fight. The best chance for him to still have a fight is if he will win against Canelo, yes, that's 2 consecutive losses of Canelo but he is not unbeatable so he could lose here.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: August 05, 2022, 03:16:27 AM

They surely have learned from their loss in game 1, they need to work together, they cannot rely on few players only as that's not what Magnolia was made of. I'm thinking maybe betting on them in the first half, they might start strong in game 2, I'm sure they are still listed as underdog.

Yes, still underdog, they really need to work as a team and try to play good defense too. With how dominating William in their last game the need of someone to step forward is really needed, I used to remember the old day when The Big 3 of Purefoods was still playing, King James and Peter Simon for their offensive attacks while Ping will take care of the boards and tough defense to any top scorer of the opposing side, He even take Jason Castro while the Blurr still on his prime.

Though it's already a new system and the players are moving according to how the coach wants them to rotate, let's see if how they will counter TNT's attack and what will be the adjustment to win the game.

Magnolia is still a decent team though, they were on a winning streak going to the quarter finals, so I'm sure they'll figure out something to win in game 2. Still +2.5 for Magnolia, I think the odds is very attractive knowing they needed to win to even the series if they lose, at least that +2.5 still has a chance.
I can't consider Magnolia as a decent team only IMO but with their current roster, they are a championship team. Mental fatigue affected the Hotshots and also the Bolts that's why they lose by double digits against the top teams who has a longer time to rest. They played 3 hard-fought games against NLEX and Ginebra and only have a 1 or 2 day rest before going to Semis.

Now we are in Game 2 and a must win for the Hotshots to make it even or else, it will be hard for them to win the series knowing it's the TNT that they are facing. Aside from that, they must find a way to at least decrease the efficiency of Mikey Williams offensively. I wonder who will Coach Victolero put to defend Williams.

I'm counting on them to be more effective in game 2, yes it's a must-win for them because if they still could not at least limit Williams, then most likely the game will be the same in game 1 which I don't expect will happen. I like to believe that they are a tough team, they won't easily give up without a fight, so I am also expecting a low scoring game in game 2 where Magnolia is dictating the pace of the game.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: August 05, 2022, 02:37:57 AM

They surely have learned from their loss in game 1, they need to work together, they cannot rely on few players only as that's not what Magnolia was made of. I'm thinking maybe betting on them in the first half, they might start strong in game 2, I'm sure they are still listed as underdog.

Yes, still underdog, they really need to work as a team and try to play good defense too. With how dominating William in their last game the need of someone to step forward is really needed, I used to remember the old day when The Big 3 of Purefoods was still playing, King James and Peter Simon for their offensive attacks while Ping will take care of the boards and tough defense to any top scorer of the opposing side, He even take Jason Castro while the Blurr still on his prime.

Though it's already a new system and the players are moving according to how the coach wants them to rotate, let's see if how they will counter TNT's attack and what will be the adjustment to win the game.

Magnolia is still a decent team though, they were on a winning streak going to the quarter finals, so I'm sure they'll figure out something to win in game 2. Still +2.5 for Magnolia, I think the odds is very attractive knowing they needed to win to even the series if they lose, at least that +2.5 still has a chance.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Discussion] Should Gambling be Banned? on: August 04, 2022, 08:05:06 PM
I have no problem banning gambling in Islamic countries that don't want to take advantage of it. Nor am I insisting that it should be legalized just because of multiple interests, but it is more likely for me to accept any reason to ban or legalize it.

Indonesia prohibits gambling, but in fact some online casinos get away with it without a clear ban. Some online slots and applications are left without restrictions even though they are in Indonesian jurisdictions. It just depends on the corrupt government, it's really up to them.

There is a reason why the Islamic countries in the Middle East had chosen to ban gambling activities and that is because gambling is considered a sin in their religion and they believe that gambling is an act of evil or something like that. They surely don't want to take advantage of any revenues that come from the gambling industry because they will be criticized by other Islamic countries. Also, they had other things to offer where most of their economy relies and that is the black gold (oil).
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 04, 2022, 07:42:35 PM
Anyway, let's go back to the current big three of GSW. Looks like we won't be seeing Draymond Green wearing the same jersey because the team won't give him a max contract even if Curry is vocal that he needed Green as well as Thompson to get the team a new title next season. Rumors have it that the Clippers are looking forward to having Green if the said player won't be given the contract.

He won't be going to Clippers if the warriors don't give him max contract. It is rampant in social media that he wanted to team up with lebron. I do not know if it is legit but Green is rumored to have went in a vacation with lebron in Toronto. He also said if they don't give him the max he will be winning it with lebron. I have not confirmed this though since i just saw this in social media. But, if he really go to Lakers with Lebron, does he fit? Green cannot play without the ball since he is a facilitator but in Lakers, lebron have the ball most of the time. The lakers need a scorer which Green is not. He will just be liability in offense just like westbrook.

Yes, he said that but he said that as a joke because he knows that he won't get any offer from the Lakers because of the same fact that he won't be an asset for the Lakers. Well, that is still a rumor just like what I've said but as of now, the Los Angeles Clippers are the ones who are planning to get Green if he won't get a max contract from the Warriors. We will see soon if Bob Myers will agree with what Green wanted.
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