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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: November 08, 2017, 12:09:14 AM
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You can fuck off with your "bitcoin segwit" bullshit, and your attempt to suggest that there is some other bitcoin, currently.
I'm a bit suprised by the venom in your response Jay. No offense was intended. Only to make a point that the segwit branch is just as much a fork as so called 'altcash' or 'bcash' (see what I did there). If there was such a consensus as you describe then bitcoin cash would not exist. Yet it does. In your face. As I already stated, I simply disagree with your attempt to describe some kind of rhetorical equality. There are attacks on the true and real bitcoin and anyhow, I already said what I had meant to say, so I doubt that there is anything further that is necessary from my end, because whatever you said does not help your case, including your supposed "in your face" retort that has NOT actually retorted anything of any substantial or material significance.  You simply disagree but in a rude and aggressive manner. But thats OK I'm not particularly bothered about your vulgar language, I sometimes use expletives myself. My in your face retort punctuated the fact that you have no rebuttal to my assertion that the mere existence of bitcoin cash proves you wrong when you state there was full consensus to implement segwit. I suppose I could have said fuck you or something like that though, might have been easier. But still you have no rebuttal. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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on: November 07, 2017, 10:42:38 PM
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hi guys,
I'm relatively new here. can anyone explain to me what's got icey against dash? why does he hate dash? because he did not buy when it was cheap?
i really like dash taking into account that I bought a lot when it was around $8
Beats me but he's been hating Dash longer than I've been a fan. I'm sure he will be only too happy to describe at length about how dash is an 'instamined scam'. And how he is on a crusade to rid the world of it. He brags about how he controls the narrative. In fact he'll probably repost it half a dozen times. I used to think it was because he was a Monero fanboy attacking the competition which is an impression he likes to portray (see his current sig). But I've since found out he's a pure bitcoin core shill and self confessed troll. One thing is for sure though he is obsessed with Dash. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: November 07, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
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I'm a bit suprised by the venom in your response Jay. No offense was intended. Only to make a point that the segwit branch is just as much a fork as so called 'altcash' or 'bcash' (see what I did there). If there was such a consensus as you describe then bitcoin cash would not exist. Yet it does. In your face.
"exist" as in mined stop & go by "unknown" and traded almost exclusively on a korean exchange, most likely by just some whale insiders taking advantage of the few fools trying to trade it short term and getting REKT. But still, 3rd biggest market cap isn't too shabby. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: November 07, 2017, 09:31:55 PM
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OK, I'm out. Sold everything @ 6120 euro. Only have some Dash and Byteball left. Gonna watch this whole Segwit2X-thing from the sidelines, I'll buy back cheaper or more expensive depending on the outcome.
Hope this selling everything pans out as well as the last time I did.
Did you leave the money or the exchange or withdraw it? I left it on the exchange as I will be buying back (either cheaper or more expensive). Similar to me Julian, also holding Dash and Byteball both very interesting projects (and some bitcoin cash). I haven't cashed all by bitcoin segwit but a significant chunk, only because I have other uses for it. Bitcoin segwit can go up down or sideways from here, I'm happy with my decision. Besides bitcoin segwit is beginning to veer away from the cash concept towards being settlement layer for offchain transacting, not my favourite direction. I remain invested because it has retained the bitcoin brand and lots of support with that. You can fuck off with your "bitcoin segwit" bullshit, and your attempt to suggest that there is some other bitcoin, currently. At this particular time there is one bitcoin, and the segwit that got added to bitcoin in July/August was a process of reaching actual consensus (have you heard about that?) locking in, activation, and currently development and incorporation. Yeah, there are ongoing attacks on bitcoin to try to create other bitcoins, to dilute bitcoin or to take over bitcoin or to create confusion, but at this particular time, as I type, there is only one bitcoin and it is not called bitcoin segwit, even though most of us recognize what the fuck you are referring to. I understand that you and some of the nutjob BIG blockers want to use inflammatory terms because you seem to be in a state of denial that actually 95% and greater consensus actually caused the implementation of segwit into bitcoin, but there is no fucking such thing as bitcoin segwit, at the moment, there is only bitcoin - even though in your fantasy attack on bitcoin world, you want bitcoin to become either an equal or a lesser than your other proposed pump fuck variations. I'm a bit suprised by the venom in your response Jay. No offense was intended. Only to make a point that the segwit branch is just as much a fork as so called 'altcash' or 'bcash' (see what I did there). If there was such a consensus as you describe then bitcoin cash would not exist. Yet it does. In your face. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: November 07, 2017, 05:21:02 PM
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I'm very not liking all this uncertainty around the fork/CME starting up. Everything I'm seeing suggests Segwit2x will have a small amount of miners, but people are talking doom.
I don't get it.
Two segwit branches fighting over 1M or 2M blocks feels irrelevant to me on a technical level. Both are almost the same, the diff in block size between 1M and 2M isn't that big. Its more like a battle of egos or a battle to gain control of the bitcoin brand, or an attempt to sack the core developers. Honey Badger don't care. Or From another point of view the problem is that forks are muddying the water, bitcoin as a concept was once clear but now is not. Additionally the limit of 21million has been cloned to 42million to 63million and so on, of different types. So far bitcoin (or the chain that is perceived to be bitcoin) is continuing on happily but the seeds are being sown for the crypto winter to come. Is that the DOOOM you speak of? |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: November 07, 2017, 11:38:29 AM
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I'm bullish for long term BTC, and will only support the original Core Chain, but the times are very uncertain and locking in some profits now is probably a wise move, (TBH I've already completed a sell, as I don't want to get caught in a rush for the door).
Im still weighing these options, not decided yet: 1] to sell BTC now, in case bitcoin+b2x will go down, and after the fork both BTC+b2x will not add up to current price-so it would be cheaper to buy them after that 2]keep my BTC until I get b2x forked coins and then try to dump both as fast as possible, and wait. - the risk is it can drop down much faster before I'll be able to sell. 3] do nothing and keep both BTC and b2x indefinitely, hoping for the best. but i don't want to support any rogue fork or bitcoin takeover attempt.- therefore i would rather be out of BTC completely than hold b2x. 4] get out of all cryptos to fiat temporarily and wait for the dust to settle. (there is a chance alts will go deep down after BTC fork as well as bitcoin.) and reload later. 5] hedge with some alts (diversification) - may be risky as well. Some altcoins may pump hard though --- aditional possible options: *short BTC - but it would be against my "no BTC shorting" rule #1 of trading *spend some bitcoin for hardware and stuff, before it (possibly) drops. atm I still think we may see another ATH before fork, as people will panic buy, so they can get free b2x forked coins. ( hedging against the the takeover/death of BTC) The original chain Will survive The original chain is Just under attack Thats all To get more free coins If SegwitX2 has more hashrate iT doenst mean that Will survive Well I'll be a little bit pedantic but the original chain is an abstract concept with more than one which can claim ancestry of transactions leading back to genesis block. Maybe what you actually mean is the current bitcoin core team will retain the bitcoin brand for their chain? |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: November 07, 2017, 10:05:21 AM
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OK, I'm out. Sold everything @ 6120 euro. Only have some Dash and Byteball left. Gonna watch this whole Segwit2X-thing from the sidelines, I'll buy back cheaper or more expensive depending on the outcome.
Hope this selling everything pans out as well as the last time I did.
Did you leave the money or the exchange or withdraw it? I left it on the exchange as I will be buying back (either cheaper or more expensive). Similar to me Julian, also holding Dash and Byteball both very interesting projects (and some bitcoin cash). I haven't cashed all by bitcoin segwit but a significant chunk, only because I have other uses for it. Bitcoin segwit can go up down or sideways from here, I'm happy with my decision. Besides bitcoin segwit is beginning to veer away from the cash concept towards being settlement layer for offchain transacting, not my favourite direction. I remain invested because it has retained the bitcoin brand and lots of support with that. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees
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on: November 01, 2017, 12:50:37 AM
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So $900 is all time all time high?
you find that disappointing? it looks pretty amazing for something that cost nothing. anyway i don't think the story is over. alot more could happen yet. it's the toy of some rich and powerful people. they're not gonna walk away that easily. Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic but it didn't cost nothing, unless someone gave you the pre fork bitcoin for nothing. If you bought that bitcoin, as it was pre-fork, then you bought a segwit and a bitcoin cash at the same time. No emotion in the question ... just a question. An open ended one .... As to the price question I don't think 900 dollars is the all time high for ever, but whos to say? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees
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on: November 01, 2017, 12:35:14 AM
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So $900 is all time all time high?
you find that disappointing? it looks pretty amazing for something that cost nothing. anyway i don't think the story is over. alot more could happen yet. it's the toy of some rich and powerful people. they're not gonna walk away that easily. Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic but it didn't cost nothing, unless someone gave you the pre fork bitcoin for nothing. If you bought that bitcoin, as it was pre-fork, then you bought a segwit and a bitcoin cash at the same time. edit: In fact the coin you bought, which was a 1mb block size with no segwit doesn't exist anymore, the prefork bitcoin died. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: $50K bitcoin valuation share your thought
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on: October 30, 2017, 12:33:38 PM
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50K is quite conservative as a bullish target.
If you read between the lines in between calling bitcoin a fraud, and investing in it being 'stupid' Jamie Dimon predicted 100K I think.
But which will be the real bitcoin if any by then?
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Economy / Speculation / Re: When the all time high gets smashed
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on: October 30, 2017, 12:16:52 PM
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I'm not impressed, and I think it's normal. Do not overdo it.
Not impressed, with what? It's normal... what is? Overdo what? lol I don't understand your comment. I can have a guess though. Not impressed that bitcoin smashing its old high looks like the other times. Its normal, as in bitcoin won't crash this time. Its the new normal? Don't overdo it, I have an implication price will fall after it hits a peak? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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on: October 30, 2017, 11:18:29 AM
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You must be new here. Otherwise you would have seen me mercilessly trolling the XT/Classic/Unlimited/Bcash/B2X forkers over the last several years. Sorry snowflake, you're not that special.  As I thought, bitcoin core shill, from the horses mouth. The way you openly admit trolling and revel in it. Hats off. Bringing up instamine is a bit old and compared to ICOs is not really same ball park. In any case I think the more accurate term is fast mine. And I tip my UASF hat to thee, Sir.  But the labels "shill" and "troll" have become so misused and overused as to mean nothing beyond 'anyone on the Internet I disagree with.' Dash's Troll Patrol went too far in labeling as "trolling" all criticism of massive Evolution delays, suspicious Instamine, coins wasted on Scam Proposals, centralization, etc. and now their credibility is shredded beyond repair. Here is the last word on using such a victimological frame, where Poor Innocent Dash is bullied by Toxic Monero Shills (or is it Toxic Core Shills today?). What you are actually doing, WhalePanda calls "crying troll." What exactly is trolling?
Ask 10 people and you’ll get 10 different answers so it might be best to just go with the urban dictionary definitions.
I think it’s important to understand this. It seems we are now at a point that when people don’t agree with each other they just call the other person a troll and it ends there.
It’s very easy to do, make a statement, call the other person who disagrees a troll, claim moral high ground and say how sad it is that the other person is trolling you and that it clearly shows that you are right, without ever providing any real evidence about your own statement. (from now on this will be called “cry troll” based on the existing “cry wolf”) Haha good one. A troll is just someone who you disagree with. Hmm perhaps but I dont think that would work as a definition. Its much too broad, and vague . But Urban Dictionary says The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame.
The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help.
Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll. Sounds very close to the mark, both a) and b). In your case, convincing your victims that Dash is a scam and attempting turning them away from one of the most original crypto out there and solid top 10 coin. While appearing to portray it as 'helping'.. Although you do spam and flame too. If you have turned people away you have turned them away from a great investment, not something I would thank you for. Dash was first of new breed of coin with built in decentralised governance, treasury, privacy and instasend and thats only the beginning. By the way I didn't call you a troll, you did that yourself. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: When the all time high gets smashed
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on: October 29, 2017, 11:39:44 PM
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Just thought I'd bump my old all time high smashed thread to celebrate the new highs. Above $6000 now, bitcoin was barely above $1000 when I started it On this log chart, bitcoin still looks quite happily entrenched in its bullish channel  |
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