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141  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin sent to a previous exchange withdrawl address by accident on: July 29, 2017, 11:59:37 PM
When contacting Liqui do not forget to provide them with the transaction id of the btc sent to that address, which is not owned by you, and also sufficient evidence to the fact that the address was at one point of time allotted to you, though for a short span of time perhaps, to deposit bitcoins to the address concerned.
I think its impossible for now to get back his bitcoin because he already sent the bitcoin to the address except if the owner of the address giving back your bitcoin but 80% its impossible to happen.
For now better to learn that you made mistaken about sending your bitcoin and next time double check when you are sending bitcoin ..
142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is it normal for a btc book to have a withdrawal fee on: July 29, 2017, 11:18:44 PM
Not really speaking of gambling sites out there yes they surely charge a transaction fees from there gamblers every time they place a withdrawal but in sports betting sites i have rarely seen any site charging any fees from it's customers. This will surely not be in trend in future but utilise it until they don't disable free withdrawals
It should be charge because its for miners fee when transferring or withdrawing bitcoin from sports book.
And i think there is no sports book that your miners fee is free unlike before that you can transact your bitcoin for free without paying miners fee but right now because of the price increases they are asking for a fee for every transaction..
143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Crossed $2,829 on: July 23, 2017, 11:59:50 PM
Was that ($2829) the all time high?  Pretty damn cool that we're testing it again either way.

I'm extremely surprised that we rebounded like we did from $1800.  That was a serious drop and it's times like that where you're in need of a seat belt. I did not expect the bounce back we got.

No, that wasn't the all time high. We crossed $3000 at one point of time. We are pretty much closing in on those levels again now. I wont be surprised if we have an ATH this month.
that's right before we drop to 1800$ we already reached 3k$ and that's the start of the dumped but now we are heading ahead again its looks like
3k$ can be achieved and like what you have mention new ath will definitely be meet this year maybe more than we expect but even what will happen
as long as bitcoin being recognized we will see more from this investment.
For now we are stuck in $2700 value that i think the price will play around $2600 to $2700+ before segwit end after recognize it..
And hope that we can see more price increase these following days but i heard that its not safe right now to save our coins in some exchange site so i think buying bitcoin are also not safe that is why the price of bitcoin are still staying in this price..
144  Economy / Speculation / Re: why is bitcoin price rising? on: July 23, 2017, 11:37:45 PM
I don't know why the price is rising but I know that the price should not be dropping because there are some exchanges that are still buying bitcoins during these days. Coinmamma in US and Bitpanda in EU are still accepting to sell and buy bitcoins, respectively Coinmamma only selling to users and Bitpanda, buying and selling to users.
I also don't. Everything that comes on my mind is bitcoin whales who began to buy coins after the price dropped low due to work of speculators who were yelling about bitcoin's pop after the 1st of August.

You might have a point thatvthe whales might be the ones that are controlling the current prices of Bitcoin. It must be said that the prices have tumbled and soared back in position within a space of two weeks and so I smell a rat of whales activities during this time period.
i also think that the only reason which is causing the price of bitcoin to increase is  that people are still interested to buy bitcoin. on other side bitcoin is also becoming more and more popular from time to time which also also increasing the demand of bitcoin and therefore the pricei  of bitcoin is also increasing. i think that the price of bitcoin will continue increase for a long time and we can expect the price to reach to 10000$ in near future.
This is not the only reason many people are investing because they know that they can make more benefits of the price increase traders are always investing and other investors are investing lots of bitcoin like we seen in the past week ago the price was drop but the price increase back because they are afraid about segwit but after some miners tested and beginning to use the segwit software its running normally that i think it can be good news for other bitcoin user that i think a sign of price increase so we seen right now the price was back to normal and now bitcoin is growing normally with other investors or new investors that they seen the use of bitcoin ..
145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC Gambling? on: July 23, 2017, 11:12:00 PM
Now a lot of gambling sites are here where you could use minimum satoshi. But only specific games are here where we need to use more than minimize. But in dice games and in every casino offer to use less than 1 satoshi. It is too cheap rate, but i think if we have a dare to start bet then better to use more than 1 or 2 satoshi.   
Yes of course, if it comes to betting which surely means that you either win of you loss then why don’t go for a bigger amount which will enable you to earn bigger. It is just like investment in this case the amount you are offering to bet is actually your investment and a very short term which have the ultimate result and you get your profit and loss on the spot, so big betting means big earnings and vice versa.

When we have gambling in mind, it shouldn't be mixed with earnings or income. Gambling isn't a legitimate occupation which can bring you fix return. It should be played only for fun and enjoyment and I don't feel betting less wouldn't fulfil this. Even 1 sat roll can be really enjoyable.
Well concerning 1 sat roll, my favorite site is Bitsler.
It seems to me that gambling is already more than debauchery. Because this passion and hobby can lead to very sad consequences. Whoever has not met them yet, may not understand all the seriousness of things.

That's the reason I always recommend people to restrict gambling upto the limit of enjoyment, never bring it mainstream as your earning. There is no fun giving big BTC to gambling sites owners for nothing. It is always good to gamble small amounts, it is enough to shake your adrenaline.  Cheesy
yes i am also agree with you. in fact those people who are playing gambling with limits they have more chance to make money and also to avoid risk of losing money. but those unfortunately most of the people specially those people who do not have any limit for their gambling they mostly lose money in gambling as compare to those people who always play gambling with some limits.
There are still risk and in gambling you never avoid the risk you can be still experience to lose in gambling the risk is always there but you can reduce the risk to lose  a lot if you are limiting your bets or you are betting only for small amount just to reduce the risk and reduce the loses amount you can bet a small amount or either exchange your bitcoin into altcoin and use the lowest bet and i heard there are gamblers are actually can make a good profit in gambling with small bets and small amount..
146  Economy / Speculation / Re: When $10k? on: July 23, 2017, 11:08:32 PM
Bitcoin is famous for winter rallies, we can see 10.000 USD in November. I see some similarities about this rise and 2013 rise. If things go well there's no reason for dump, Bitcoin could go 10k easily with another rally. Though it needs to pass 3k strength first.
Bitcoin has changed considerably in many aspects since 2013 and, thus, I don't think it is a good reference.
Same, I think, Bitcoin is still too young to draw any reasonable conclusions regarding seasonals.
Having said all that, I do see a next spike, coming as soon as the next month, as quite probable. But I don't think we will pass the $3500 mark that easily. As soon as we cross $3k we are in the uncharted territory and it is extremely difficult to make any educated guess what will happen there.

If this market was similar to the 2013 market we would have dumped back to $600 by now instead of near the ath. Confidence in the long term is on a much higher level than then. People pretty much get that the next halving is going to make the price go way up, and there are a hell of a lot more big players invested now.
I think we see $10k next year.
I think its impossible that we can see $10k value next year and i think it takes more years around 2020 to 2022 is the possible that i think the price can be reach in $10k value because after halving like other said the price can be double after halving ..
Because we are relaying on demand and supply so our supply will reduce that can affect the market price and increase more value.
147  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where is my money??? on: July 23, 2017, 10:39:31 PM
That was my old experience in coinbase that is why i switch in electrum wallet which is i have control with my wallet i can backup private keys. in case i can recover it in other wallet once the walle of electrum will crash but its impossible because i never experience it and this is the best alternative wallet of bitcoin core wallet..

The only thing that you must do is to contact the coinbase support you can try this twitter support from coinbase https://twitter.com/coinbasesupport?lang=en
And hope that they can responds to your concern so that the problem about your transaction can be solve after fixing it from coinbase..
148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: July 22, 2017, 11:59:09 PM
It's really hard to leave gambling especially when you are playing gambling everyday despite of not winning. We are always playing gambling because we think it's easy money for us but in reality it's not. If you want to leave gambling out of your life. You must do another things that is not affiliated in gambling.
It is very hard when you already lose too much in gambling you always think postive to play again because the profit you will get is change to your lose i may not say play gambling everyday because gambling is life no you must control the emotion and accept the fact that if you already lose then move on stop chasing your money face the reality be realistic once you already won 40-50% of your initial deposit withdraw and comeback next week,
Isn't it so ironic that after all the money that one has lost due to gambling, people are still gambling, those who have suffered the worst losses are probably the ones who are most addicted to gambling.
Well those type of people actually they are losing a lot if they are addicted this is the worst loses than you are just gamble for fun..
Because i think gambler who are just gamble for fun they are not losing their all money and i think they are just gamble with limited time and they are just using gambling just to past time they are not treating it as source of profit..  unlike addicted in gambling is always greedy to make huge profit that actually more risky than you are gamble normally..
149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can someone explain the trend of bitcoin casinos creating altcoins ? on: July 22, 2017, 11:48:42 PM
ICO's were a platform for multiplying their profits. Already those gambling websites were highly profiting and ICO implementation will multiply their usage, in specific by the coming days if the ICO gains good value they'll be easily promoted through the gambling houses as the accepted token for gambling. This increases the circulation and causes further growth.
And also is just a help i think just to promote their ICO this is a new way to promote ico because mostly the use of altcoin is for gambling activity only . other use of altcoin i don't see any other use of altcoin  except for well know altcoin that actually using payment method in some business online..
So those ICO who release and use in gambling like you said its profitable from them and increasing the use of ICO to their business.
150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Crossed $2,829 on: July 22, 2017, 11:37:53 PM
So whats you stats saying? in how many days it will cross $3000btc
as far as 1st august is coming the bitcoin is rising. it seems that it will be at $5000 after 1 Aug
That was impossible the movement of the price is too slow if you want to see breaking $5000 but i think much possible price can be reach before this coming august 1 i think around $3k to $3,500 this is more possible price can be reach that your estimation but we don't know what will actually the price after august 1.
But i believe that the price can be increase more soon because other investors are just waiting for a safety of their investment after august 1.
151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin dead... on: July 17, 2017, 12:00:16 AM
As long as people use it bitcoin isn't dead. Just the fact that the price is moving down doesn't mean it's dead. Bitcoin has been called dead billions of times before and yet here we are today.


Bitcoin will never end, we've all made the greatest bitcoin of income, and we can not possibly do this, because as long as bitcoin is still in use we will continue to be able to increase its age, and will only play in the price.
People are just dirty minded they are just afraid of losing their money in bitcoin we are just seeing the price drop but bitcoin is not going to die..
Its a normal we are seeing a price drop it doesn't mean that bitcoin will going to die they are just thinking that bitcoin will die soon they don't realize bitcoin is use by many companies and bitcoin was legal in some country that i think its a proof that bitcoin can be stay for too long..
They are seeing a price dump but they are not thinking deeply the successful happen in bitcoin that i think as a proof of strong cryptocurrency..
152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: PRE SEASON SOCCER GAMES on: July 16, 2017, 11:54:08 PM
Pre-season games are good only for the show.

I'm always avoiding betting in them. Check for example yesterday's Chelsea vs Fulham. Finished 8-2! It's like hockey.
These pre-season games are unpredicatble because teams are playing not for a result. Reserve players, new players, unlimited substitutions and other similar factors makes it risky to bet. I'm also rarely betting on pre-season matches.
Never tried to bet in pre-season its honestly randomly who will win in the match.. even you are watching there previous games the result still random
Well i think there are other ways to know what team is the best to choose but i don't see any methods that actually can gives you idea or prediction who can be the best to bet. .
153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: TO BE OR NOT TO BE MILLIONAIRE? on: July 16, 2017, 11:50:41 PM
I already proven that i made a profit in those cheap coins but they are just good in the first attempt and never a rise back again and turn into no value or no one can will buy it again..  have many stuck of altcoin which is never sold after reaching 1 sat never rise back again..
And i think most of those cheapest altcoin they are mostly scam..
I'll stay in choosing altcoin if the altcoin are reach 500k market cap or even choosing the top 20 in coinmarketcap is the best choice for me because there are still movement of those altcoin than cheap altcoin after trends they can rise but in few weeks the price start dumping and turn into no value..
This is i think much wiser than choosing cheap you have a potencial to be millionaire but its impossible that this days we will see a good altcoin with cheaper price.. maybe if you hold them for a long time because i heard that there are altcoin that actually increasing after few years..
154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Brave Buyers Can Start Buying... on: July 16, 2017, 11:33:20 PM
It's a play with upside potential that is for sure 3K could happen again, if it bounces back after Segwit2x on the other hand things could still get more messy from here. Basically its a buy when others are fearful sell when others are exuberant situation.
Still as good a time as any to risk a bit on an outcome.
3000$ could be happen again after the role of Segwit in bitcoin. Because it will boost the transactions, boost the market of bitcoin much better than before. So some of implementation are being held that's why it goes down. After 1 August it will bounce back to market as it was before but more with potential power.
I believe that we will see a large price increase after segwit activation..
Since they're announce that our coins is not safe in exchange site people are just afraid and they sold their bitcoin just to be safe of their profit and  after segwit expect that the price will increase more because more people will invest because they know what will happen.
155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Bitcoin Going Down Badly? on: July 16, 2017, 11:28:43 PM
Bitcoin was down due to the effect of segwit. Because of splitting that happen on August 1 all Altcoins and crytocurrencies will be affected. However I believe that after this segwit, bitcoin will started to raise again.
I believe that the bitcoin price will rise back again they are just withdrawing there bitcoin instead of holding them in exchange site because they heard that its not safe to save bitcoins to any exchange site before segwit activation done.
Hope that we can see more price increase because developers they are not doing wrong in bitcoin just to encourage other people to sell bitcoin and i think they are just upgrading and improving the use of bitcoin..
156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Outcome of Horn vs. Pacquiao on: July 16, 2017, 11:18:19 PM
I think that Pacquiao really won the fight, everyone saw it. Even the commentators said it. Even other professional  athletes think that Pacquiao was robed on that fight.
Yeah i watched the fight and i think there is a fraudulent decision in pacman and horn fight..
As you can seen horn is not a good fighter hes always headbutt pacman that really gives him bleed to his face. because they know pacquiao is weak after he is getting headbutt remember the other old fight like in may weather..
157  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Best Marketplaces to sell digital goods for Bitcoin ? on: July 16, 2017, 11:14:54 PM
What honestly you want to sell?
There are some other forum i think you can sell if you are selling related in promoting or other skills like seo you can sell it in other forum. since its not a allowed to share the other forum here you can pm the other forum but it should be related in skills there are some members there are buying and paying in bitcoin as alternative payment..
I found a site maybe it can help to know some site here https://99bitcoins.com/get-sell-stuff-for-bitcoins/
158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: July 15, 2017, 08:41:46 PM
I would not loan money from anyone to use for my personal gambling, I think that is a really bad idea to be gambling with the money that does not belongs to you, players should not dream of getting rich from gambling, as there is always a risk to lose everything in one night, it would be better to gamble within your means.
spare money or money that you can afford to lose i guess its still better that way instead of doing some loan or ask for somebody's money
to use for your gambling activity its really a bad practice.
Indeed mate. Avoid getting loan to get money and use it for gambling it will not do any good for you. You just have to bet on how much you can only afford and make sure to control your gambling activities don't get too addictive as well.
Just play on your own funds not to use others money just to gamble. As gambling sometimes can be addicting and it may lose your hard earned money. When you cant control your emotions everytime playing to it.

Right, it will be much better to play gambling with your own money. Asking for someone’s money or lending money for you to be able to play is already a loss. There is no assurance that in 5 rounds of game, you can at least won 2 times. In fact, winning one time is really hard, you might just end up with two big drums of water you need to fill. Using your money is much better than asking, still it will be much of greater good to allot money first for important things before allotting an amount for gambling.
Not a good idea to borrow or lend money from your friends or someone that you can take a loan and its not good in gambling anytime you can just wasting your time and money..
Think first you are just gamble for fun because gambling are made for fun not for giving a free money that is why  those business can stay for too long because they know that gambling is more profitable and people are greedy..
Much better to gamble that you can afford to lose if you lose better to accept that you lose today instead of chasing your loses back again..
159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: DGC-LTC-BTC-BKC- DASH ALL-IN 1 Wallet on: July 15, 2017, 07:23:07 PM
You can check this section this is a place where you can almost see wallet you are looking for
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=37.0
And i think you should move this thread there. My opinion about Jaxx.io its really not safe to use that wallet i just heard always they are having issue
Better becareful about your wallet and much better to use the official wallet provided by core devs..
160  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Where to store bitcoins on 1st august ? Safe to keep on exchanger ? on: July 15, 2017, 07:14:31 PM
If you can afford to buy trezor i think this is more safier wallet to safe as of now but electrum also good but if you want to be more safe you can use trezor instead because you are immune to any viruses and keyloggers unlike other wallet ..
Like other said also paper wallet is a good alternative.
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