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281  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: NOT BUYING ANY COIN, BUT STILL TRADING on: February 02, 2024, 07:00:33 PM
I think you are discussing about the gambling. In gambling you don't need to buy any thing. You just put a long position if it hits you will get your profit and if it goes opposites then you will get a specified loss as per your investment.
I did not experience the gambling, but people's are making lot of money by doing this.
It's also not just about gambling if it's just buying and not holding any assets. If you trade in Binary Options it will be the same as gambling, just determine Long or Short and it looks very simple but it will give you a lot of losses if your position is wrong. People who make a lot of money from gambling like that certainly have a lot of losses too, don't just look at the many profits, ask about the losses too.
282  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why do many people fail in trade? on: February 02, 2024, 02:56:55 PM
I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not, but I think it's a good idea to use the same principles in short term investing or trading. I think failure is a natural thing to go through as long as we are willing to learn well and are able to understand every mistake we make in the trades we make both in spot and future trading, and that person will get light in their trading and then get comfortable where they can choose the trade they want because they have gone through a process?

But I think that the way of analysis in futures and spot trading is different and their capital also determines the size of their profits when they lose or win, and in some places I noticed that many people who use a large amount of funds in their trading plan form newbie are quicker to give up on their dream trade.
There's nothing too different, I think it's the same, it's just that future trading is 2-way trading which allows every increase and decrease to provide a profit or even a loss. Other differentiators Generally, spot trading does not involve the use of leverage. Traders can only buy assets with the amount of money they have.
But in futures trading, traders can control a larger amount of assets than the amount of money they have with leverage. However, the use of crypto leverage also carries higher risks.
283  Economy / Speculation / Re: Self control cannot be neglected as an early investor on: February 01, 2024, 08:00:13 PM
This is ironic to say the least, if those people had decided to go for the method that they considered to be too slow at the time and they invested in bitcoin and kept holding it, right now the profits they could have accumulated would be huge, and instead many years later they are still worrying about which altcoin to buy, as if they did not bought bitcoin back in those days when it was so cheap, for sure they are not buying it now that it is way more expensive.
Those who are not sure about Bitcoin will continue to think that the current price of Bitcoin is more expensive, even though seeing how the last ATH has not yet been reached.
There will be no chance for people who always think the current price is expensive, even when the price can drop to below $20k they still say it is expensive. they will only regret the nonsense they did when they see the price of Bitcoin rising quite drastically and consistently.
284  Economy / Speculation / Re: Was Bitcoin ETF really a good thing for growth of crypto and Bitcoin prices? on: February 01, 2024, 07:14:09 PM
Yes, if more new people join the Bitcoins world, then it will increase the demand to accumulate the Bitcoins. As the demand will increase, the price has to go up in order to meet the demands. This will follow the basic economics of supply and demand. Hence for this reason we were seeing many threads related to this. Sadly the impact isn’t as big as it was speculated. But still we shouldn’t lose hope. Something big is really very near.
Waiting for something big also requires extra patience, we are already close and it will happen soon. it's not just about ETFs that will provide good growth for the market, but more people coming in and investing in Bitcoin will make the market more crowded. I waited with a fairly full bag.
285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 31, 2024, 08:55:16 PM
The Bayern Munich Vs Augsburg result did not make me happy. Although they got 3 points, it seems that Munich did not play in the best condition. Indeed, this result also makes Tuchel's position a little safe from pressure from management. Because there is news that Tuchel is rumored to be interested in Barcelona. This is because Xavi has given a statement that he will leave at the end of this season. Another news is Manuel Nuer's contract renewal. He is 37 years old and is currently recovering.
286  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading tokens or coins, which one is better or gives more profits? on: January 31, 2024, 08:29:50 PM
for short term trading maybe a better coin, i.e. bitcoin. even if tokens or altcoins are indeed better to choose altcoins that are listed on many exchanges. and of course for short term trading maybe ethereum is still feasible. but don't let us trade short-term on new tokens, because in my opinion it is very risky for manipulation and we will find it difficult to analyze it, especially when analyzing it in technical chartist analysis
New tokens still need time to be trusted because they are still new and have not yet found their momentum. But Altcoins like ethereum have become mandatory tokens for me to trade besides bitcoin. I trade Bitcoin for the long term and several altcoins, just taking advantage of the price fluctuations that occur. Usually new tokens appear and have high volatility so they move faster and it is easier to scalp.
287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 31, 2024, 08:04:22 PM
How is Neymar doing right now? After confirming the knee injury I didn't get much new news officially. But I got a lot of "meme" pictures of Neymar's body exploding, he became fat. Some also compared Neymar with Ronaldo of the same age. Ronaldo with the same age as Neymar still has an athletic body and looks to maintain his fitness condition. With the age of 31 Neymar has been to SPL, he should be 2 or 3 years he can still compete in Europe. Just look at Ronaldo, he went to Arabia when he was not much interested in Europe. In addition, it seems that the money factor makes Neymar and Ronaldo to the SPL.
288  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Do People Steal Hundreds of Millions in BTC And Still Get Caught? on: January 31, 2024, 06:19:11 PM
If scam is large and involves millions of dollars, the fraudsters may prefer to return the money, get a 5% rate, and work legally in a security protection company, but most of the fraudsters are lazy, do not like to work, and want a quick profit, so they defraud middle-class people because they know that their income is limited. The possibility of tracking currencies is more difficult because of their limited resources and they rarely target the rich.
Fraudsters have collected millions of dollars from several frauds carried out and they also get a lot of money from the rich people or whales whose wallets they hacked. Fraudsters are now smarter and don't withdraw all the money, they do money laundering well and disguise every transaction through mixers or gambling platforms. therefore the forum is very strict with the Mixer Platform rules and does not allow it, that would be a serious problem.
289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion on: January 30, 2024, 09:44:19 PM
~snip~

and the result is out that 4 Australia and 1 Indonesia, but that is totally fine since this is a new achievement for our country so nothing to lose. Just hope we are gonna win next time.
I think with the pattern of play shown at the start of the first half Indonesia will not concede much. But my guess was wrong. Indonesia played well, but they couldn't score. With this progress I'm quite happy. In addition, Indonesia also broke 3 AFC records.
1. Qualifying for the knockout phase, even though many said Indonesia was just lucky.
2. Indonesia scored a goal in every match in the Group stage.
3. Through its young player Marselino Ferdinan Indonesia set a record for the youngest goal scorer at this year's AFC.
290  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wrong Moves With Your Bitcoin on: January 30, 2024, 08:56:25 PM
I guess I could admit that I made some mistakes with my Bitcoins. These mistakes were not fatal, but they were an expensive lesson. I was too arrogant about transferring quite a significant portion of my bitcoins into altcoins, I now regret it. But on the other hand, if we don't make mistakes, then we don't grow intellectually. It was my mistakes with Bitcoin that made me delve deeper into technical analysis and wave analysis in particular. And now I’m rather grateful to fate that this happened. Now I look at the chart quite confidently and can tell from it a lot of things that none of the analysts know and that I didn’t know before. This is a bitter experience, but an amazing step in development.
Everyone has had bitter experiences that will become learning material like what you experienced. I also made a mistake in investing by selling my bitcoin holdings just to enter the Altcoin launchpad which ultimately provided no profit. seeing how bitcoin grows quickly makes me quite regretful that I sold it. but it will indeed be a lesson, starting to carry out management and analysis to find out about the projects to invest in and of course not sacrificing bitcoin.
291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 30, 2024, 08:26:43 PM
~snip~

if Roma is able to withstand attacks from Inter and can share the score to end the match in a draw and if Roma can survive this is an early sign that De Rossi is almost successful in making a good contribution for Roma.
2 matches of As Roma with De Rossi got positive results. They won albeit with not much goal difference but it was a good start. Against Inter it takes place week 2 of February, before that they will play Cagliari. Of course Roma are favourites to win against Cagliari, but for Inter a draw is a pretty good result. There are rumours that Roma want to sign Kloop, but that's not certain. Since I've read Kloop will take a break for at least 1 year.
292  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this the end of excitement on: January 30, 2024, 08:11:38 PM
Yes during market volatility one must be patient without patience no one will be successful. There are many investors who are broken due to this market volatility, I want to say to all those investors, don't get broken, stay strong and hold your investment, your success will come very soon. The market will not remain in such a bloody state for long, you continue your investment and those who are preparing to invest but are afraid, I also want to say, invest without fear, you will surely see the face of success very soon.
In common sense, of course no one wants to go bankrupt in this investment, but those who seem too panicked when the market continues to bleed disturb their psychology and end up looking for a stupid way out by selling their asset holdings at a cheap price and definitely making a loss. They will just go bankrupt and not be able to grow any profits. Investing is not easy to do if an investor's mentality is not good, they really have to have strong guidelines and have to be more patient under any circumstances. The crypto market is very volatile, therefore you must be aware of these risks and not take stupid actions.
293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 29, 2024, 09:07:37 PM
Atlético were able to win and thus move ahead of Barcelona with a better goal difference. Barcelona's defeats have not passed without a trace, and if they continue to be as bad as they are, then Athletic Bilbao will also have a chance to claim a place in the top 4.

Now it is not clear how the news about Xavi’s departure from the team will affect the results. It came as a shock to many players when Xavi announced his retirement after the defeat to Villarreal. Xavi met with the players to explain his decision, and the players asked him not to leave the team, and Sergi Roberto took the blame for the defeat.

I don’t know if this can somehow influence Xavi’s decision, and whether he can change his mind, probably for this to happen, Barcelona needs to start winning, there is still a lot of time until the end of the season.
Of course Xavi came and brought significant changes. It wasn't at a cheap cost. So Barcelona are backing Xavi to make the best of an unclear financial situation. But this final bad result makes Barceloan start to get impatient. Perhaps the reason for the dressing room is a crucial problem. When I become a coach and am not trusted then I will not continue to be there either. I will leave as soon as possible. I'll be in a team that can accept me under any circumstances. So I think Xavi's decision is very good.
294  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The lessons I've learnt as a bitcoin long term holder on: January 29, 2024, 08:31:30 PM
It's just like trying to catch a falling knife, most people wants to buy at the lowest entry point, and forget the fact that we can't really predict much about the market, in my case I set a target when I saw Bitcoin price falling, but it never reached my target and that's how I lost better opportunities to have bought at a low price, at 15k then, and I don't think bitcoin would be reaching such a low price in a very long time.
The strategy for buying at a fairly low price must also have a backup strategy, if the lowest price is not reached, there is a second price that we set to reach the lowest price, so that we don't miss out and still get a fairly low price. Preparing analysis and predicting when Bitcoin will fall is certainly a good strategy, but predictions will not be completely accurate, be prepared to buy early when it is close to the main target. Expecting a drop of $15k at the moment is unattainable, but to expect a drop to $30k is possible, but this also depends on how the market reacts to the bitcoin halving.
295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion on: January 29, 2024, 06:46:58 PM

Indonesia had to accept 4 - 0 defeat to Australia and they had to be able to accept the fact that they were returning home early from the AFC competition, this was the umpteenth failure and Indonesia had to be able to learn from failures like this.
Now Australia can easily qualify to enter the quarter-finals and only need to wait for the completion of all the top 16 matches to be able to see the next schedule for the quarter-finals.

~snip~
We can see Indonesia dare to play short ball and hold the ball a lot. This is a good development, the ball movement is flowing well. But in some decisions there are still some players who are often late to pass. Indonesia's attacking line also struggled. Australia didn't play like Japan, in fact I think Japan were much faster with the tempo. So the tempo of the match was slower.
Australia managed to take advantage of the physical advantage and some basic mistakes of Indonesian defenders. The 2nd and 4th goals are one example. Other than that Australia was also more effective. Congratulations to Australia you deserved to win. Next up is the Asia U23 cup and World cup qualifiers, I hope some of the Indonesian blooded players who are in the process of transferring are finished.
296  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Silly and scary questions, and what would you do if that were you. on: January 29, 2024, 06:12:21 PM
not just foreigners, it's the locals that are more dangerous. since they can pretend they are from the same city and send you a friend request on social media. i think this will actually be a common crime one day just like the divorced women scam who are targeted because they are lonely and some hunk befriended them and asking for money.

i would actually want to create a dummy account and post some edited photos like i'm a miner, i think i will be getting lots of hotties sending me pms.  of course they are also men pretending to be chick.
Yes, there are more fake accounts circulating and pretending to be someone who looks like they have an established life and job. But in reality they are only setting traps that will eat their victims when they start to enter and believe. So it is important to do research or observation first before trusting anyone on social media, because social media is full of tricks and deception.
297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 28, 2024, 09:30:55 PM
I'm surprised Klopp announced he won't extend his contract with Liverpool in the middle of the competition. I think he must keep the secret although it is his right to announce it or not. When he announced it, we are afraid that it will ruin the focus of the players. Liverpool is joining the race for the title in few competitions, they must focus on the matches first.

Well, it won't be easy to get the replacement of Klopp. He is an experienced and reputable coach, there is no many coach at the same level with him in the market. If Liverpool expects to sign Xabi Alonso, it seems hard because Xabi still has a contract with Leverkusen. Besides competing with Real Madrid, they also must wait for until 2026.
I was surprised to hear this. Kloop has just turned 56, he still has a long career in football as a coach. It seems that he is tired, so he made a statement about wanting to quit after the end of this season. Kloop is not bad, for more than 8 years he has given 7 titles including EPL and UCL. There is no news where he is going, but I read on social media that he will not go to a club or country this year. There are rumors that several names such as Mourinho, Unai Emre, Gerrad and even Xabi Alonso are candidates to replace Kloop.
298  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference Between Fiat Currency and Bitcoin on: January 28, 2024, 08:46:28 PM
OK a real world example: 

I prefer to pay in cash and I had a co-worker who always payed with a credit card.  One day in the canteen the card reader was not working, so no food for the co-worker, but food for me....I gave my co-worker a "loan" in cash  so he could feed himself....

In this regard Bitcoin is similar to credit cards...

So technical issues are not always the end of the world  Smiley
There will be other supporting alternatives and Bitcoin is a guarantee if it still doesn't work properly.
Of course the electricity will not always go out or the internet will disappear, the government has thought about this and there will not be a total power outage, it will still be alive.
Moreover, if the Earth were truly completely dead, it might no longer have any inhabitants or be abandoned by its inhabitants and be the end of everything.
299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: January 28, 2024, 08:15:58 PM
There are two types of people who gambles. One does gambling for recreation and one does gambling in order to earn some extra money in hand. The first type of people are usually rich. For them money doesn’t matter at all. They just gamble for fun. On the other hand, needy people gambles by measuring all the risks. Now if you ask me, then I am an occasional gambler. I gamble when I am in need of money and that too I bet only in sports games to maximise my winnings.
Gambling and entertainment, that's what I do gambling to entertain me. Because there are some gambling games that make me come back refreshed and can think well. I'm not addicted but I don't gamble to make more money, because I'm not an expert. So I do leave a little money to gamble online, or bet with my friends on soccer matches. But I don't do this to the point of harming others or even harming myself. Because I heard a lot of news that people addicted to gambling are very bad for their lives.
300  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Halving effect on: January 28, 2024, 07:07:54 PM
Everyone hopes that a price increase will occur when the halving occurs and this price increase will be the biggest increase that will form a new ATH. The market will be full of positive sentiment so FOMO will certainly occur. There will be many Halving effects for bitcoin and the crypto ecosystem, and bitcoin will reach its highest level again. everyone must be prepared to wait for this 4th halving moment and including me who is still holding some Bitcoin and also potential altcoins.
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