Very interesting, you said it's risky, can you tell me what your overall success has been with automated trading?

nfts are a bad ideal anyway, 99% of them have no real (use) besides a promise to get rich

then 1$ would have to be pretty worthless.

are you stupid?

1. The price has only gone up for gold

2. theres over 15billion smart devices using min 0.1g of gold each that's 2,000tons, and how often do you buy a new phone, how often do you recycle your old one?
out of 244,000tons.  2,000 tons is used every 10years, less than 20% of it gets recycled. 244,000 isn't even the real number of available gold, and 1,600 tons of it is thrown away every 10years, just from smart devices.

i'll just copy paste the uses of gold....


Wealth protection and a financial exchange
Decoration, jewellery and medals
Electronics
Space exploration   (satellites)
Medicine and dentistry   (micro-particles are being used in the treatment of some cancers)  ( injected as a treatment for Rheumatoid arthritis and muscle damage)


bitcoin just crashed to the price is was 2years ago, and you really just said bitcoin is a better performing asset?

(we're moving to the more technology stuffs) you can't even mine btc without the gold used in your cpu/gpu.

(Bitcoin is the future since it can be used for both store a value and as a currency) All currency holds a value when you give it a trade pair, and even when you don't, every currency still holds a value, it's called a denomination.
This is the dumbest thing ive ever read in my long life of strolling the internet. I truly wish i could give you some kind of award.

1. "244,000 metric tons of gold has been discovered to date, 55,000 tons of gold are left. " most of the gold is under the earths mantle, we will find ways to extract it, way before we're "mining asteroids"

2. Gold is used for alot of devices, billions of phones, pcs, gaming consoles etc, the cpu's, and gpu's used to mine bitcoin, there would be no bitcoin without gold.

3.All of these altcoins are just an improved version of bitcoin, pros of some of these alternatives are, faster transactions, more private transactions, cheaper transactions, not PoW, more features, etc.
The reason people are using bitcoin is, kinda like facebook, alot of people hate it, and pref the other social media platforms, but they never leave because those others don't have every person on the planet already using it. so they stick with the crappy version.
Basically bitcoin is like a visa card lets just say visa has higher fees, and the online transactions are always pending, And some altcoin that's better than bitcoin is a discover card, it has lower fees, and instant online transactions. but like everyone else
you don't apply for the discover card because no stores accept it.

4. Most importantly. Theres a reason the creator of bitcoin created bitcoin with 8 decimal places, that's 2,100,000,000,000,000 satoshi's , so it's really not scarce is it?

5. (BTC is scarcer than gold. I think one day 1 BTC will enter the $xxx,xxx zone then the $x,xxx,xxx HODL BTC) Theres countless reasons someone could speculate the price of bitcoin skyrocketing,
but this is the dumbest, The supply cap is what you think gives bitcoin it's value? really?

6. (There is no Bitcoin in the whole Universe, except on Planet Earth.) Why would you even say something so ridiculous? You think no one knows that? or do you think aliens are going to come buy it up and make it scarcer? is that whats going to contribute to the million dollar value? lol

7. Global warming is getting worse, it's more environmentally friendly to chop down trees, and print paper money lol, most regions it's not even profitable to mine bitcoin, most people who are doing it, are using government subsidies to turn a profit.
that's like using 100$ in electricity, and getting 90$ back. Hurting the planet, and screwing tax payers. Bitcoins blockchain doesn't work without miners pushing through the transactions. And the difficulty is only rising. It says the last bitcoin will be mined in 2140
do you think it's sustainable?

But bitcoin could be worth a million each, that doesn't mean everyone who uses it will have a million dollars to pay $10+ fees, difficulty rises, so does the cost to mine blocks.

But more likely this is what will happen. bitcoin just crashed to the price it was 2years ago, sooner or later it's going to crash so low, that miners will be losing insane amounts trying to mine blocks, the network will get so congested people wait days on their transactions,
And this will cause all kinds of panic sells, the price will spiral down to the point bitcoin won't recover. And this is when everyone will universally agree on an altcoin that will replace bitcoin as the standard crypto currency. unless the price gets high, and stays high before this happens.

Lmfao
you tell me to learn more about them and accuse me of spreading false info, while including (To my knowledge) in your statement like i'm uneducated on the subject while you're not even confident with your own knowledge of it, that or you know what your saying is bs and you want to option of playing innocent when someone calls you on it.

But
lets look at the rules of the campaign you signed up to

Make a minimum of 10 constructive posts in the Gambling section each week in order to receive a payment. These 10 will count towards the 25 post minimum weekly requirement.

and lets look at what you have contributed to this thread


Not useless, and will help many people huh?


Pointless discussion? you just said it wasn't useless and in fact helpful for people


Oh you hope he realizes hes replying to an old thread? just like you're doing to get that post count up?



You're saying (((no company pays campaign participants for what they say on the forum))) you have been paid 4times so far, for contradicting yourself and contributing nothing to the conversation..... but i know what you really meant, you mean they don't publicly say you will be disqualified for negative feedback about them, and i know for a fact some don't which is why i am looking... .. but you're not stupid, you know the managers decide what counts as a constructive post and they don't need a reason to kick you. i know, you know, anyone interested in this conversation knows the only reason you jumped at the chance to accuse me of spreading false information is because you got paid about 3$ to share your chimp logic.

i took time to write and share my opinion, i'm aware op isnt active, but like your first reply, i knew it would be helpful to more than just the op.
and you may think i was talking negatively about the people promoting their signatures, or even the sites themselves, i'm not.
I was pointing out an obvious fact, that there is an incentive for the people recommending them to do so. and that people should do their own research on these sites instead of basing their decision on other people with this incentive saying they're trustworthy.

heres some history then ill give my advice at the end


betcoin.ag wouldn't pay a jackpot winner, and then announced the guy "agreed" to settle for what ever amount.
ofc he agreed to it, at the very start they where refusing to pay him at all.
they claim it was the fault of the slot provider, which they're still using, and i didn't expect them to pay more then they even have because of something that was the fault of a 3rd party provider.
but they could have covered the legal fees and went after the software provider, which has enough to pay. this guy wasn't betting to win the fraction he got, he was aiming for the prize that was guaranteed, including everyone else prior who where betting at the stakes eligible to hit the jackpot.
And them still using that provider it's like a spit in the face to the guy who settled for a fraction of the payout, just because he was scared of not getting anything at all.

on top of that i reported 2 security flaws to them when i was playing.
one was where players could convert status points to their balance, which was like wagering 0.01btc and cashing out 1btc
they ignored it for like a year, after awhile i tried it just to see if they would let me cashout  0.01btc even after i made them aware of this, and they did, never banned or anything.
they willing kept players funds at risk an entire year.

the 2nd one was where you could change the ids of freeroll tournament tickets, (you would get a freeroll ticket for free every few days) from the giftbox

so instead of redeeming these for a freeroll probably worth 0.1$-0.25$ you could change the id for free entries into the 1m$ gtd tournaments worth like 2650$
they ignored that for months until i wrote WPN.  a few months later (they claimed to have sold the site to a different company, and that they would no longer be offering poker) they lost their partnership.
The only sensible reason i could see them ignoring these security issues would be to scam other wpn partners, using their site instead of the secured poker client to join tournaments for free, if they had 5-10staff members grinding and dumping the funds to other skins through shared sngs, they could have easily been making 50k everyday, much more then their site with 50 micro stake players and a few high rollers was generating.
I don't know if they truly sold the site/brand to someone else, but all of the chat agents have the same names they did back then.

and this site betking, has launched 3sites so far, pocketrocketscasino,betking and betking, the first 2 times he scammed on a smaller scale "suddenly closed without returning player funds" last time there was alot of proof and he scammed alot of money, hes still on this site looking for funding for a fourth attempt


The point of these stories (don't use information from btctalk)  is that betking might have flagged threads, but hes still free to move around this forum and try to scam people (i'm not complaining, i pref forums this way, with all the accusations it's impossible say who is and isn't trust worthy) noone knows if betcoin is operated by different people or not, it's hard to find old accusation about them on this forum, and their trust rating isn't really bad, on top of that they're spending alot of money of signature campaigns, campaigners can't speak negatively about them, and are often incentivized to talk them up.
it's also hard to find anything on google too if you search betcoin scam reviews or likely any other site reviews, because the number of reviews are so low, most have less then 10reviews, so anyone could easily change the ratings with fake reviews within 10mins
if you google "best btc gambling sites" or "most trusted btc gambling sites" those are all fake too, determined purely by who's offering the highest affiliate commission and best perks.

Notice how everyone  or "almost everyone" has replied to you so far, with the same site in the banner below their post (the ones paying them to tell you)

trustworthy wise i have always thought bitvest.io was, mainly because when they opened their bankroll was so low and your bet was limited, it would be easy to open a site accepting bets higher then your bankroll, the profits would be alot bigger, the risk of someone busting the casino would be low
and if it happened you could refuse to pay, keep the current profits and reopen under a different name. plus i think they have been running atleast 10years now.

and stake.com/primedice  stunna was trustworthy on this forum before these sites even launched, probably the longest running, and theres enough reviews out there to come up with your own opinion. i think these are the only ones where you can spend 5mins on google and be convinced it's safe but maybe they don't offer the games you pref playing. so finally my advise.


1. Quality
if the design looks cheap, i wouldn't deposit alot, it's alot easier to launch a site without putting much in it, for example nitrogen sports, the homepage is okay, but once you're logged in, it's always looked cluttered and cheap to me. i can't say if it's legit or not
but with how long they've been running, id expect them to invest in a upgraded look.
2. Staff
I've been on atleast a dozen sites where chat mods would mute people, not for violating their own tos, but because someone disagreed or questioned them or the site.
even if the sites not a scam i wouldn't want to contribute revenue to someone who could mute or even ban me while i'm following their rules.
I've also played sites that target an english audience, while english isnt there first language, and who don't buy a translator, example the games/rounds section, a owner host some kind of promo, and it ends in confusion,arguments and accusations because the terms wasn't clear from the start.
this is more common then you would think.
3. Bitcointalk
for the same reason i posted above, don't make a decision based off of information from here, if you're wanting to try something new with a 50$ deposit sure, but not high limits
4. Anonymity
in counties like united states, casinos are required to keep a log to prevent wirefraud and to ensure legal accountability, if you're looking for a site that doesn't require personal info, with instant payouts (like most people here prefer) the anonymity is a 2way street, they can always cut bait and run with likely no punishment, so if by high stakes you mean hitting big and cashing out a few million, even trustworthy sites would be tempted to not pay, besides primedice/stake.com that would be breadcrumbs to them and theres already transactions of them paying out 40btc at once.
5. License
I avoid any site advertising they have a Curacao license, a large portion of casinos that turn out to be scams advertise it, usually with a "sticker" on their site. it's the equivalent of food saying it's organic and charging more. as if "organic" means healthier
a Curacao License is like saying "heres our sticker proving we can be trusted" Curaçao  has a bad rep for a reason, their standards are the lowest, you don't want a casino with standards this low, id rather play somewhere without a license.
6. Real-money
i'm assuming by high stakes you mean depositing atleast 25,000$ over the course of a few years.
almost all of the billion dollar online "cash" casinos who wouldn't scam you for crumbs, and are widely trusted and regulated, accept crypto deposits now, just save yourself the headache and use them.

trial accounts aren't just randomly banned its what ever vcc or method you're using.

1.9$ with 90% ban rate that last about 3days each, that leaves people paying an avg of 19$ for a full month. (more then the cost to just pay for a sub)


you can get hacked accounts for around 3.5$ that are almost never banned and with warranties any where you look, just google it and within 30secs you will find reputable sellers with thousands of transactions accepting any payment method.  

and even that isnt a good value
you can go to any store, buy a western union debit card or most others for 4$ fee+load 1$, pay 5$ and get netflix,hulu,spotify,disney+ etc all at once with 0risk of being scammed or banned.  or better yet, signup to the hundreds of gpt sites like swagbucks for example and get paid 20$-30$ for joining all the trial offers. you actually get paid to take free accounts why would anyone deal with op


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username: love2spade

first off they need more then a cell number for a KYC.

second i'm definitely not going to share personal info esp my phone number just for a bonus used to test the site. doesn't that defeat the purpose of even testing it to see if you wanna give it a go.
if kyc was required they could request it during withdrawal.

3rd these shitty sites should stop operating at all if kyc is required. if i wanted to do that i would play a real money regulated casino and not some unknown site using a 3 month old forum account.

4th fairplay.io is named after fairplay.com which has been operating since 2002




This is insane ffs
all it takes is using a token with a marketcap around the same as all of the other shitcoins
and offering it to peoples "accounts" so they never have control of the coins i don't actually possess
then they will give me all the personal information that i ask for which is apparently not even the info required to file a kyc

love2spade
6999

love2spade
7175

was that the last freeroll?

btckingfqsd and wadn152 joined and wasn't on the list

After looking at watashi's post they do seem like the same person. her post before this thread was about reversing something multiple ways until they all reach the same point. maybe its related to that


and the 2nd post to this thread shows a possible way to decrypt a piece of it.  so maybe you need to follow the steps done to decrypt that for the entire message.


Also on the first page she provides a solution on how to get the key.


i'm not a 100% sure they're the same person but assuming it is you would have alot of information to go on.

yeah this is obv a scam.
admin didn't payout in the past
made a new forum account
offering more then he owns for payouts

kind of expected 50+ signups because someone leaked the pw, so far i don't see anyone thats not on the list:) gl everyone

sorry i misunderstood before and lost track of this thread, i enabled messages from newbies

Btctalk name: tortic25
Btctalk URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=841001
Rank: FullMember
Current post count: 237
Swc Username : ancilvtwo

Half of the text in his thread is an exact match to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096267.0
Pretty sure he copy/pasted it and added random hints/ ("coooode")

all of his 8post are promoting this ponzi
and the only people posting in his threads are accounts made the same day his was created.