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441  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to create a Bitcoin Mixers / Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: November 21, 2023, 10:43:35 AM
While there are few mixer which claim it'll pass AML check or can be deposited to centralized exchange without problem, it's hard to achieve that in reality. There are many system used to check whether Bitcoin comes from illcit source and nobody know how exactly it works.
I think that whole AML score propaganda is promoted by exchanges and blockchain analysis companies to make money out of thin air on platform and outside platform, I won't be amazed if there is a mixer that's actually owned by exchange or companies that run blockchain analysis. AML score is bullshit, it doesn't tell whether money is illegal or legal, it only tells how well you hide your identity but it's also paradox that it's not completely like that. Blockchain analysis companies often make mistake and their AML score calculation doesn't make sense because it can turn on false positive on completely clean transaction with clean history. It's a new way to market and make money for mixers but I can't blame them, they supply the demand.

It's one of many ways to remove connection/link of your past Bitcoin activity. And while it's true the fees is high, few people use this method either by doing it manually or use mixer which claim to do that for you.
What's the difference between sending 1 BTC to mixer and receiving 0.096 BTC from mixer compared to sending 1BTC to mixer, converting it in 226 Monero, then converting 226 monero and receiving 0.096 BTC. What's the difference? I send bitcoin and receive bitcoin. If it's an instant exchange or withing 24 hour timeframe, I think it doesn't make much sense.
442  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team on: November 21, 2023, 09:34:54 AM
I do not know if you guys saw this ===> https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/11/everton-points-deduction-what-the-10-point-penalty-means-for-their-survival-hopes/

I quote : The Premier League’s statement read: “Following a five-day hearing last month, the Commission determined that Everton FC’s PSR Calculation for the relevant period resulted in a loss of £124.5 million, as contended by the Premier League, which exceeded the threshold of £105m permitted under the PSRs. The Commission concluded that a sporting sanction in the form of a 10-point deduction should be imposed. That sanction has immediate effect.”

The question are..... Why is Stake.com still sponsoring clubs like this? They are virtually bankrupt and not good for the reputation of a world leading online casino like Stake.com.  Roll Eyes
Everton ranks 19th in Premier League ranking. I know it's not impressive and they promote a bad performing team but stake still gets what they want. Everton plays against teams like Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham... They have got what they want, they promote their company in premier league and it will be very cheap and effective for them to promote Everton instead of manchester city or top groups. Btw their bankruptcy doesn't ruin their reputation and doesn't make stake look like a bad casino, it won't affect stake's reputation.

443  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: November 21, 2023, 08:07:25 AM
A few days ago I learnt how they were creating physical casinos in certain countries, with a slightly different name (1xbet) and, if they get popular this way, chances are that their past reputation in this forum is forgotten some day.
Are you sure about this? I find this weird because 1xbet is actually an extremely popular FIAT online gambling site which has direct links to 1xbit and they have been in the casino business for a way longer period in comparison.
He is wrong, 1xbet like I know it is a brand that is completely different from 1xbit, the only link i know of right now is that, both casinos, 1xbit and 1xbet are both sisters to the same company. So, in comparison, both casino operate under completely different management, but were both created by the same parent company.

1xbet have physical casinos and betting outlets in different country all over the world, they are not 1xbit as Haunebu assumed, 1xbet is 1xbet and 1xbit is 1xbit, based on what I know.
There is a connection between 1xbet and 1xbit, they both use bet-b2b CMS for their casinos, had live blackjack tables next to each-other in Evolution studio. I think that bet-b2b is a company that owns 1xbet or 1xbet owns bet-b2b, it doesn't matter.
I think that bet-b2b uses own CMS to create many other casinos - 1xBet, 1xBit, Casino Z, JVSpin Casino, Melbet Casino, Betandyou Casino... There are many more and they all use bet-b2b. It's also curious that bet-b2b and 1xbet.com had exactly the same logo colors years ago. I believe, bet-b2b creates many casinos, scam with them and make money. They try to invest more in 1xbet fiat casino and make it popular instead of running a traditional scam scheme, 1xbet is their brand casino, main face.
444  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 20, 2023, 09:29:32 PM
Amongst goalscorers in the game are Ferran Torres and Lamine Yamal, who are both players for Barcelona. Khivicha Kvaratskhelia may not be inna good team that supports him but that has never put a stop with the way he bangs in goals for Georgia. He's score twice against Scotland and now a game against Spain. He should be on target when they return against Atalanta.

Kvaratskhelia doesn't bangs in goals for Georgia. If you check Georgia on flashscore, you'll see that our team performs terribly against good teams and recently we only managed to win against Thailand and Cyprus, lost against Spain and Norway but had draw with Scotland.

Gavi is an effective player for Barcelona and Xavi was surely counting on this player for the rest of this season. I think Barcelona is even right to start blaming Luis de la Fuente for it because the game against Georgia was not an important game for them to let Gavi play in this match.
Regardless of that, Barcelona can have 30 days to hire another player to take Gavi's place in the team. They just need to prove Gavi is out for four months or more which is not hard and there won't be any financial issues for Barcelona about hiring the new player.
There are many articles written on local websites that say that Barcelona management is super angry about Gavi's incident. Maybe no one was expecting such a terrible accident. To be honest, I didn't have time to watch the match but I wanted to watch it, I only saw highlights today and I don't understand how he got injured, there was no clash according to what I saw and injury happened accidentally when he was receiving the ball. It's okay if he misses a season, I pray his career won't end because he is only 19 years old and is very talented. Such a talent mustn't be buried because of injury.
445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 20, 2023, 03:04:06 PM
That's very sad for Xavi and Barcelona to see Gavi getting injured like this. I think these FIFA days we recently saw made many players injured and now Gavi is injured while he is a key player in Barcelona.
In the game between Spain and Georgia, Gavi couldn't continue the game after 24 minutes and he left the field while crying.
It seems he is injured hard and he is going to be out for a long time.


It was a terrible day for Spain and Barca. I'll be honest and say that Georgia is not a team where Spain needs to play with superstars to win. We only have one superstar player Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, the rest of them perform very badly, you can see that Georgia isn't able to win against faroe island and similar teams. Khvicha is the only newly born superstar but he is not capable to beat Spain alone. Today, FC Barca management is very angry on spain because Gavi won't be able to play during the season, he will have to take a 7-8 months break. He is really a big loss for Barcelona and for Spain.
446  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 9 Years Before He finally claim his lotto rewards on: November 20, 2023, 01:49:36 PM
Quote
Almost nine years ago – on October 2, 2014 – Mendoza placed three bets for the Lotto 6/42 through lucky pick in an outlet in Batangas. A day later, he found out he won. The problem was his granddaughter crumpled his winning ticket.

In an attempt to straighten the ticket, Mendoza’s daughter ironed the ticket with a piece of cloth covering it. However, the ticket was blackened instead. The only remaining visible details were:
The first two digits of the three bet combinations
The outlet from which the ticket was bought
Draw date
Date of purchase
Partially, the time the ticket was purchased

In these 9 years, the winner did not lose hope and summoned the help of lawmakers and lawyers to help him win the case he even worked as an overseas worker and just came home just to attend hearings and follow with his case and he even sold some of his properties so he can sustain the battle.

My questions are :
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
Will you do the same thing and fight for your rights to claim the prize

https://www.rappler.com/nation/give-lotto-winner-damaged-ticket-million-prize-supreme-court-orders-pcso/
https://news.abs-cbn.com/lifestyle/classified-odd/10/10/14/winning-lotto-ticket-burned-flat-iron
https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2023/10/26/pcso-lotto-winner-damaged-ticket-12-million-prize.html


In my country, if you buy lottery in bank, they save your personal information and if you lose ticket, you'll still be able to claim your winning but if you buy them in lottery boxes in the street, then you have to keep ticket undamaged with you. In overall, many company wants to don't give away prize if they have legal right to keep it but in this case, I can't blame company for what they did because ticket was really damaged and this is something that ticket owner has to take care. Btw I am happy that ticket owner won it finally. Yes, nine 9 years have passed and inflation has eaten some of his money but still it's better than nothing. This lesson will teach ticket owner to take care of everything that he holds.
447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin really too Expensive? Then Buy Satoshis on: November 20, 2023, 01:23:23 PM
In the future, we will get to a stage where or when we will no longer talk much about how much 1 full BTCbitcoin is worth, but we will focus on how much 1 satoshi is worth.

And today, based on the current price of bitcoin, 1 satoshi is currently valued at $0.000366 according to coinmarketcap.

~snip~

If you missed buying bitcoin in its early days and feel bitcoin have become too expensive, then you have the opportunity again to invest in satoshi, treat satoshi as a bitcoin side project, for in the near future, 1 satoshi may worth up to $0.2 cents or even more, there are only 100 million of satoshis in every 1 bitcoin, and a total/max supply of 2.1 quadrillion satoshis off the total supply of bitcoin which is 21 million (disregarding that around 6 million bitcoins is estimated to be lost, which also means that the satoshis equivalent to this amount of bitcoins are also lost)

Imagine buying 1,000,000 satoshis at current price of $0.000366, that will cost you around $366 today

Hold the same 1,000,000 Satoshis till each worth $0.1 cent, that will be worth $100,000 (not money for children)

Start investing in satoshi today, if you are too poor, buy and hold atleast, 2,000,000 satoshis worth $732 today, and be very patient.
You can't buy satoshis because transaction fees will eat them. To be honest, it's counterproductive to buy satoshis today because we have high transaction fees. It's not hard to buy them on exchanges but since it's never good idea to leave them on exchange, you have to withdraw them as soon as possible and during withdraw exchanges ask you to pay high fees. I think it's better to save some hundred dollars from your monthly salary and buy 0.05 or similar amount all together.

I believe there will be time when we will calculate payments in satoshis instead of bitcoins. When price goes way up, 0.00000001 bitcoin - 1 satoshi will be like 0.01$.
448  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: blockchain.com EARN commission 7 % on: November 20, 2023, 10:12:41 AM
Hello ,


what do you guys think of blockchain.com they are offering on EARN 7 % commision ,  this company has been in the game since 2011 is guess that proves it thrustworthy  company ?

what do you think ?
blockchain.com support is dead and their system has some problems, I wouldn't store my funds in their wallet because my personal experience is that I created account on blockchain in 2016 and then I wasn't able to login. My password was correct, I was receiving email confirmation, I was clicking on that but then blockchain.info was giving me some error and wasn't signing in in my account.

I think Nexo is a better alternative, they have been around for a long time and I don't remember anyone having problem with them, they also offer very high interest rates on bitcoin and stablecoins compared to others.

P.S. Not your keys - not your coins. Always keep in mind that if you don't own keys, you never own coins and you never are safe.
449  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to create a Bitcoin Mixers / Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: November 19, 2023, 07:10:46 PM

Hey guys,
I want to learn how to create a bitcoin mixer, is there's any tutorial available so i can develop it?
You may be able to create a basic bitcoin mixer by reading github codes and miscellaneous scripts but backend requires knowledge and experience. If your users use mixer to deposit them on exchanges, you have to beat blockchain analysis companies and return transactions to your users with aml score safety. It's not easy as it was in 2016, it's getting very hard these days, more experience and advanced techniques are required to bypass modern restrictions and analysis.

If you are a developer, you have to build a script where you will break the transaction history.
If he was a developer, he would already have googled jambler.io and would see github code. I think he is not a developer and just wants to create a bitcoin mixer but it's not as simple as installing Wordpress via softclaus.

or converting to Monero and returning again to Bitcoin, and then you must be careful and hide your identity, especially since the mixers are in a gray area, which may be accused of money laundering.
Why do you need to convert bitcoins in monero and then convert from monero to bitcoin? You are paying transaction fees and converting fees which will take a lot of amount from your deposit.
450  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoneyPot - Crash with the lowest house edge on: November 19, 2023, 06:04:24 PM
As some of you might already know, MoneyPot was the first crash game in the industry. In 2014, when Ryan took over, he rebranded MoneyPot as bustabit. Subsequently, the moneypot.com domain was sold and eventually faded into obscurity. In MoneyPot's early days, the house edge was dynamic. That's our main differentiator, and since we're starting with crash, it only seemed right to acquire the domain. That said, we are in no way affiliated nor know the team that operated it after Ryan. Back to the good old days!
Welcome back!
Wasn't moneypot originally a company that was offering huge bankroll and API for people to create crypto games where they build new casino on your capital and share profit? I registered on bitcointalk in 2016 and I was actively checking crypto casinos at that time. I discovered moneypot around that time and I remember it as I described.
Btw progressive jackpot is very attractive but I think you should work on UI/UX design, it feels like good old days which is good but so many casinos have done improvement over time, I think you need too. This crash game become so popular around the world that it's amazing but I think other casinos took edge over you because they improved visual aspect and you need to improve it too. Your house edge system and max reward is unbeatable!
451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should Casinos Sponsor Sites That Deals With Gambling Addiction on: November 19, 2023, 04:19:50 PM
I'm just curious and would like to get the consensus of the community, should casinos sponsor sites that deal with gambling addiction and cure, we can't deny that the gambling addiction percentage is very high in this generation,

I just stumbled one site about gambling addiction it's a free help for those addicted to gambling, there are many more related sites and facilities.
Do you think it is the obligation of casinos online or offline?

It is casinos' way to repay those who put in a lot of money and get addicted or they shouldn't care because it's the gamblers' initiative to play.
Is it duty of wine producer to sponsor sites that deal with alcohol addiction? It's not their duty but when your product causes addiction and you fund companies or sites that deal with that addiction and help people to overcome them, then you are doing ethical thing which is your free will and not duty.
There is a casino Betsson that owns many casinos. This casino runs organization in my country that helps people with gambling addiction and covers support of psychologists for people who are addicted to gambling. They also were promoting healthy gambling and were suggesting people to not lose more than they can afford to lose.
452  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Massive influx of scammers activity during the bull season. on: November 19, 2023, 03:48:17 PM
For some reason I got this taught from a discussion I was partly involved in where the persons were all complaining on how they lost so much during the bull market and it made me wonder how possible is this if one should be able to avoid so many  factors that posses these results of losses.

It would be nice for the community to discuss how these period are so vital on profits and also how they can also be a hit by some these scammers that are fully active during this period due to same reason that everyone is always hyper in these period.
Some people lose during bull market because they invest when bubble is about to explode. These people watch how bitcoin rises, then they think that it's temporary and it's going to fall, then they see it's not going to fall and start panicking, blaming themselves for not investing, then price rises again and they start panicking, then bubble is going to explode and these people finally decide to invest in bitcoin to not miss the profit but since they invest during the time when bubble is going to explode, this is what happens: They invest, bubble explodes and these people start losing instead of profit. Then these people hold tight because they were taught that they should hold long-term to profit but price is falling fast, they still hold it but when they see that price went super down, they can't hold anymore and they sell what they bought when bitcoin's price was at ATH. Then, they discover that some days later bitcoin starts recovering and price is slowly increasing, it's not going to reach ATH but it's increasing and price is getting higher than they sold.
Please carefully read what I wrote. This is the analyses of my personal spectation on people since 2016. Never make a mistake like this!
453  Economy / Economics / Re: Life is cheaper with Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general on: November 18, 2023, 10:32:36 PM
I don't know about you guys, but for me, I have discovered that the longer one save in fiat, that is, hold fiat, the more life gets expensive, this is because fiat is known to lose value overtime for several reasons, when fiat loses value, they lose purchasing power, goods and services become more expensive, which in turn makes life more expensive.
It's not like buy bitcoin and sit & go. You have to trade, buy low sell high to make life cheaper or otherwise your life will be the same.

This is why I personally implore us all to be wise in how we choose to save our money,
Keep one million dollars in the bank for 10 years, by the time the 10 years is over, you pull out your one million and discover it can't buy much because things are no longer at the same price as they were 10 years ago.
As far as I know there is not any bank that offers you 10 years deposit interest. If someone wants to make deposit, 12 or 24 months should be selected but if someone has one million dollars, then that person should forget banks and start a business or invest in cryptos like you say OP. Keep one million dollars in crypto for 10 years is absolutely the best solution compared to keeping 1 million dollars in deposit over and over multiple times up to 10 years. Deposit interests work in a way that over time, inflation eats your earnings from interest rate and actually you earn nothing by placing your money in bank while bank loans them with two, three and more times higher higher interest rate, that's how money is made.
454  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🐺WOLF.BET - Advanced Dice Game 🎲 Sportsbook 🏟️ Slots 🎰 on: November 18, 2023, 08:19:46 PM
We took a close look at Wolf.Bet Dice and well... best casino dice game on the market, maybe?!  Grin

https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-game-reviews/dice/wolf-bet-dice-game-review/
It's hard to argue which casino has the best dice because 1% house edge is standard everywhere and UI/UX design comes to personal preferences, one will prefer bitsler, one will prefer wolfbet, one will prefer coinsgame and etc but wolf.bet is really exception. Wolf.bet was the first casino that offered fixed strategies for dice: D'alembert, Paroli, Martingale and Delayed Martingale and also offered ability to build strategy yourself, save on wolf.bet and play with your built strategy, I have never seen something similar in another casino. Wolf.bet has amazing UI/UX, animation and automation, they have really worked to build one of the best dice game.
455  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The prospect of mixers in a congested mempool on: November 18, 2023, 07:36:30 PM
Bitcoin mixers might experience loss in bitcoins today but their bitcoins have significantly increased in terms of USD value and we shouldn't forget it.

Makes no sense, one it's having your investment grow, it's a different thing than your business losing money.
Do you think that if Stake for example would be losing 1$ million a day on their casino they would keep doing it because their stash has doubled in value? Again, makes no sense running a business at a loss.

It makes no sense to run a business at a loss but crypto is a business where you have to consider your incomes in Bitcoins and in dollars too. At the end of the day, crypto casino owner has to pay salaries in dollars, not in bitcoins. If company earns bitcoins but bitcoins go down and down, it's not good either. I can say from my experience that companies keep their eyes on how much coins they earn from their business and also modify their budget when price significantly rises and falls. Btw since here we talk about bitcoin mixers, it's clear that if people want to mix coins, they may not mix coins right now because of high fees but these people will mix their coins later when fees go down. Imagine that averagely 10 people mix coins per day, now start counting:10 people want to mix bitcoins today, 10 more want to mix tomorrow but transaction fees are very high. We have 20 lost client at the moment but imagine fees are low the day after tomorrow. What happens? Our 20 clients and let's expect another 10 guys, 30 guys visit platform and mix today (the day after tomorrow I was talking about). Mixer didn't lose clients or profits, they received profit later because of delay and that delay was caused by high fees. I think this situation is temporary and when the balance sheet comes in the next month, if fees go down, they'll see that they didn't experience significant loss because of this delay.
456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The prospect of mixers in a congested mempool on: November 18, 2023, 10:43:33 AM
There is no doubt that Bitcoin mixer is a great innovation. It is actually what makes Bitcoin retain some of its key attributes like privacy and anonymity. However, the recent congestion of the mempool resulting in high transaction fees and longer waiting time for transactions confirmation might have huge impact in mixing business considering that mixers usually have time range for settlement, this being unique for each mixer and often used as competitive advantage.  

Do you think this could be a major challenge to the business of coin mixing?
It can really be a major challenge for bitcoin mixer owners because ridiculously high transaction fees stop people from making a bitcoin transactions. When bitcoin transaction is high enough that it can eat up to two digits percentage and then on top of that mixer is also going to take additional fees from you, then you sit and wait when fees go down or stop to care too much about your privacy.

It can also be temporary challenge for bitcoin mixer owners because if people just wait for fees to go down but deep in their bones they want to mix it, these customers will visit bitcoin mixers when fees go down and in overall, mixers will experience quick burst of users and then things will get smooth.

Well, nice surprise, at least I'm not the only one thinking about this!

I've seen numerous users saying that all you have to do to avoid high fees is to stop paying for stuff, well, since mixing right now small amounts is a losing business for some, I wonder if those guys recommending this and carrying a mixing signature would be also ok with mixer not advertising during this period either as they wound;t see much business anyhow!

It's easy to say wait for the "spam" to end, I wonder how easy is to tell a business to close down till the spam end!
Bitcoin mixers might experience loss in bitcoins today but their bitcoins have significantly increased in terms of USD value and we shouldn't forget it. After all, bitcoin mixer business owners have families and they need USD for their daily activities. Btw to be honest, small transactions have never been the major profit source for bitcoin mixers, they make money from large transactions by collecting 1%-5% fees from them. It's better to have user who mixes 10 BTC in one process instead of 20 users who mix 0.002 bitcoins.
457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning big amount after watching streamer on: November 16, 2023, 09:33:51 PM
I try a couple of buy bonus worth 25$ and I hit x3800 using 0.2$ on my 5th buy bonus which insane since it almost same experience when I watch the streamer video. This kind of event is like dream come true since I never imagine winning same with the video I watch even though there’s a difference on the winning amount.
That's amazing, I have don't play slots but I was playing dice and bustabit very often, every day for hours and I have never hit x3800 or something similar. My max was maybe x100. But your win is amazing, that's one in a million. By the way, I have similar one in a million accident where I made bet on sports games, I had 13 matches added in my ticket but I only did my research on 5 matches and I blindly took other 8 matches with odds higher than 2.0 and luckily I won that ticket. My odd was up to x1500 but sadly I only had bet 10 cents on this ticket.
458  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Any alternative Bitcoin transaction accelerators to viaBTC? on: November 16, 2023, 10:49:28 AM
ViaBTC offers 100 Free hourly slots for transactions they can help to accelerate if they meet the requirements but this get used up in just 3 minutes lately  Grin

Can anyone recommend any good free alternative transaction accelerator to viaBTC that they know?

We are looking at real transaction accelerators and not transaction rebroadcasters.


Last time I checked them, they were always available because they changed their terms and were only accepting specific transactions, I couldn't imagine if that slots would ever get filled.
There is not any good free bitcoin transaction accelerator, simply there isn't one. Paid ones ask you so much that it doesn't worth it. I remember that Quickseller has an access to some pools and can accelerate your transaction, you can contact him but he is not active lately.

From my experience bitaccelerate.com has always worked well. It rebroadcasts the transaction among many nodes, and is completely free.

Everything else I have tried has either been paid, or free but not effective. I've tried and experimented with every single one, except I have done this some time ago. There may be better solutions, however bitaccelerate has always done the job for me.

I hope this helps Smiley
You are just lucky. When you were using bitaccelerator, your transaction got broadcasted again but that is not what made it confirmed. Luckily, transaction fees decreased at the same time and your transaction has got included in bitcoin blocks.
459  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ 0✘BET | Casino & Sportsbook | NO KYC ' Fast Payouts! 🎲⚽ on: November 16, 2023, 09:49:20 AM
Is it not related to 1xbit or 1xbet? I just asked this. But I hope 0xbet is not related. Anyway, welcome to the bitcointalk forum. I hope you can properly establish your community here in the field of crypto business.

Do you have any bonuses ready for newcomers to your casino? apart from welcome bonuses, free spins, and others? The competition that you will face here in the crypto gambling business is quite intense, so you should refine and improve your actions.
It doesn't look like to be related to1xbit or 1xbet, at least 0xbet and them use different content management system for their casinos and I highly doubt betb2b would build a new website on different CMS.
Btw why did you choose this name OP? 1xbet, 1xbit <-- these casinos are scams and their domain names are abused, there are hundreds of phishing websites that abuse 1xbet and 1xbit names. I think it's not a good idea to build a new casino on this name because there is a high chance that new player will think this is just another phishing casino or a scam one under 1xbet name. Not a wise decision.
460  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: November 16, 2023, 09:28:18 AM
By the way it still doesn't make sense to get those rewards, the pricing is just not making any sense. If we are talking about 5+ million RP, that means we are talking about 0.05000000 as in 5 million satoshi. That means with 37k dollars or so per bitcoin, that is over 1.5k, nearly 2k dollars for 5 million RP, and we are talking about even more than that, it's 5 million something for an iphone 15 pro max. Look at the prices of the phones, you can get it for a lot cheaper than that, or at least it is like that for my nation, no idea about each nation. That means if I encash the reward points, turn them into satoshi, withdraw to my exchange, turn it into fiat, and then buy the phone, I would have money left from it.

I think the reward part was never the part they wanted to get attention to, they never really wanted people to get these rewards, they would rather see people get the money for it instead, makes it easier, allows them to do it quicker and cheaper.

You are right, I believe RP prices don't change the way free rewards change as price goes up and down. They probably set RP prices on items at first and left it as default, didn't touch it since then. It will be good if they adapt RP prices according to Bitcoin price but it will be even better if they offer electronic items in cheaper price than one would buy them by converting them in satoshis. Btw you guys really made a good point here, I hope freebitco management will have a look at them again. It will also be great if they offer some kind of cashback to FUN holders on freebitco, for those who hold FUN on freebitco for more than a year.
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