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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform
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on: October 18, 2016, 11:31:02 AM
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OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)
It works like this: - you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option. Then both mail me to this email with ": ( jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.) - seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email) - seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address - which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons) I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then: - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address - within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm - after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received -- Jani Valjavec Co-founder & CTO Hello to all. If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.We are not cooperating with anyone in that regard! Sorry Liqui, but this was just very unprofessional to kind of kidnap our reputation and dump support on me. I tried to act nice, offer account swapping and escrow in order to stop crybabies flooding this thread, but it turned out to be a bad decision. Only impatient bounty hunters wanted to "sell" their ICNs. However, this is not stopped. Please wait for official launch and sell/buy on exchanges. Sorry Iconomi, but we just suggest to move ICN balances from Ico cabinet to Liqui according to your public proposal for forum community. |
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Local / Трейдеры / Re: Биржа Liqui - торгуйте и получайте 24% годовых на BTC, LTC,
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on: October 17, 2016, 09:38:04 PM
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Фонд по биткоину под проценты собираетесь увеличивать? Или в данное время только через лайты можно ставить на интерес?
Пока не будем увеличивать, возможно уберем лайты из депозитов вообще и тогда лимит на биткоин пропорционально увеличится. Но общий лимит пока не измениться. |
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Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Плaтфopмa по yпрaвлeнию aктивaми
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on: October 17, 2016, 09:31:06 PM
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Спасибо за подробнейшую инструкцию  Но все же, какой механизм перевода токенов, если реальная сеть еще не работает, точнее ее еще даже нету? Да просто монеты между ICO кабинетами разрабы кидают и все. У одного забрали, другому (ликви) начислили. Запустят сеть, тогда уже ликви закинет все на биржу и сделает вывод Абсолютно верно. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Buying ICONOMI / ICN shares
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on: October 17, 2016, 09:09:00 PM
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looks like step 1 and 2 contain the same step. Don't bother Jani unless you have a single email containing ALL the information. He does not want bothered with multiple emails for a single account swap, and it need be the ENTIRE account. Once you do this, your tokens are owned by Liqui, and we ofc have no credentials on them, and they reside in Russia, where they banned Bitcoin. You are wrong. Firstly it is needed unique email for every deal - "we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons". And secondly we are from Ukraine, not Russia. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform
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on: October 17, 2016, 08:50:35 PM
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I know that guy... It's Fonzie from Happy Days!!!   Oh guys, you are the best. At least you know one Liqui's team member name  To be serious, the main reason to not disclosure personal information - Security. We are handling bitcoin business and we are not fishy as someone post above. Our main job is store customers funds and any personal info give attackers more possibilities - names of co-dounders, names of employees, physical address etc. We must be prepared to reflect any attack - including social engineering and physical effects. Yes, we live in real world not virtual. And we live in Ukraine, it is not US you know... We clear understand that providing personal info don't gain much trust, lets be honest - it is just names, it is doesn't mean anything, it is not give for you as customer any guarantees. But providing personal, sensitive to attackers info will certainly make them stronger. So thats true. You can believe or not, you can continue trolling, but we are long runners and we here for a long time. Trust to be built. Lets speak about this 1 year later. Thanks for understanding and lets move this discussion to our thread. - Liqui admin |
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Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Плaтфopмa по yпрaвлeнию aктивaми
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on: October 17, 2016, 07:35:04 PM
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Друзья, не сгущайте краски. Команда Iconomi профессиональна и адекватна. И то, что реагируют на троллинг порой это тоже нормально. Сложно систематически смотреть на пустые обвинения и не реагировать, если болеешь душой за проект. Мы то знаем по себе  Сколько пользователей к вам ICN перевели уже? Будем информировать по мере фактических переводов на биржу в разрезе "сколько всего монет зашло". Пока ни одного - все запросы на обработке у команды Iconomi. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform
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on: October 17, 2016, 02:33:29 PM
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I can prove Liqui is scam.
They haven't even posted members names of the team behind it. Just a picture of 4 team members, which too appears photoshoped.
When I asked on Telegram the names of team members, they said-
Liqui Exchange:
yes of course, when we will ready to white label - we will update all info
Me:
Can you please at least give name of team members?
Liqui Exchange:
Yes we can, our team is well known is Ukraine/Russia - dont worry
Me:
Names?
Liqui Exchange:
Once again, when we decide to publish this - we will do this.
Me:
But why are you hiding this.?
Liqui Exchange:
It is our founders solution at that moment, Im support guy - cant provide you with this infotmation unfortunatelly
Now you only decide. I haven't seen a legit website which is not ready to disclose the names of team members.
If you don't trust me, try asking these questions to them in Telegram or I can give you screenshots as proof too.
Oh, lol. You are funny man. "I haven't seen a legit website which is not ready to disclose the names of team members" - what about btc-e? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform
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on: October 17, 2016, 01:31:00 PM
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OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)
It works like this: - you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option. Then both mail me to this email with ": ( jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.) - seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email) - seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address - which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons) I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then: - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address - within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm - after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received -- Jani Valjavec Co-founder & CTO Hello to all. If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site.. We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real. And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread. why don't you share this info? 1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth. good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST.. Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request.. But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like You know someone who has lost their money in Liqui? Yourself to Liqui operated in the platform and lost its btc for fraud? You did an analysis of the platform to defame that liqui is a scam? If you have evidence that it is a scam Liqui his words are the scam so you better shut up and respect a little please. I never said that people lost their money, but that people MAY (you know the difference, right?). For me it is not legit as long as they don't provide the above proofs. The fact that it has been asked more than once, and still some "happy customers" keep posting here just makes me feel more confident about my posts. If you are new, small exchange that is looking to make it, there is a way to start, especially when you deal with IOU tokens. Sending out people to write posts here is not the right way to start. Or perhaps you think that what I asked for is too much to ask from 4 guys new exchange that is selling promises for tokens? Hi, Daparski. We just do not understand what are you want to figure out. We invest BTC in ICO Iconomi (providing Txid, you saw this post). You can't calculate by yourself final amount of ICN we have? Thats very simple. Again special for you - our customers investments to ICO Iconomi is cryptographically verified, all info is open for everyone. Instead of make your own research and receive all answers on your questions, you ask again and again simple questions. It is look like usual trolling, sorry. (that why we dont respond to you). |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform
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on: October 17, 2016, 12:16:40 PM
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OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)
It works like this: - you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option. Then both mail me to this email with ": ( jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.) - seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email) - seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address - which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons) I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then: - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address - within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm - after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received -- Jani Valjavec Co-founder & CTO Hello to all. If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site.. We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real. And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Buying ICONOMI / ICN shares
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on: October 17, 2016, 11:56:52 AM
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OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)
It works like this: - you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option. Then both mail me to this email with ": ( jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.) - seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email) - seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address - which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons) I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then: - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address - within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm - after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received -- Jani Valjavec Co-founder & CTO Hello to all. If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation. |
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