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1  Other / Alternate cryptocurrencies / Re: Has anyone integrated an alt-chain with Open Transactions yet? on: January 30, 2014, 08:50:48 PM
There are only two ways to use a blockchain-based currency in OT:

1. Trust an issuer to hold the coins, and then he issues the corresponding units inside OT. Markm's OT server is doing this now. This is the same as if he was holding gold, or dollars, etc.

2. Eliminate the issuer by putting the coins into a multi-sig voting pool. We are working on this now and should have the code ready soon. Note that this will only work with blockchains that support multi-sig.

Can miners be issuers?  Or mining pools would act as issuers?

FYI, mining pools have nothing to do with voting pools. Totally separate concepts.

You can ignore the concept of mining pools for the purposes of this discussion.

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Or is this more like, somebody sets up an issuer that acts like a local exchanger, you send your mined coins to them, and they send you the OT tradeable units.  You are trusting them to be your reserve bank.

This is correct. The issuer is the guy you trust to hold your gold, and issue tradeable units in return. You are trusting him to return the gold to you, when you return the tradeable units to him.

(This is why I prefer #2 over #1 -- because I want to eliminate the need to use a trusted issuer.)

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With #2, once you do this, can you then trade and perform transactions with the coins in the voting pool, or do you still need to convert them into tradeable units?

The whole point of putting the coins into the voting pool, is so they can be safely stored, so that when the server gives you tradeable units, you are able to use the tradeable units, without having to trust the server with your actual coins.

So yes, there are tradeable units, the same as in (1) -- the only difference is, you don't have to trust the server not to steal your coins.

See this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teNzIFu5L70&feature=youtu.be

Also, this article:  http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/12/voting-pools-how-to-stop-plague-of.html

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Also for #2, does this require a bitcoin-based blockchain, or does it only require a multi-signature interface that you could have a different type of blockchain behind?

Technically speaking, this will work with any blockchain that supports multi-sig.

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Last question for now - so is there one OTX P2P network, that everyone using OTX will connect to?  To facilitate trades between assets I might define, and assets somebody else might define.

OT is federated, meaning:  many servers, many clients, and each client talks to many servers. A server is not an authority over a client, but a cloud commodity.

OT (the library) is not P2P itself, but OT clients will be integrated with P2P networks for various purposes. For example, the upcoming Bitmessage integration into the OT desktop GUI will allow clients to discover other clients for various purposes such as price discovery, wiring, legacy bank integration, etc. In that case, Bitmessage acts as the P2P layer -- but notice it's just incorporated into the same application that OT is, versus being directly integrated into OT itself. (Which would be unnecessary.)
2  Other / Alternate cryptocurrencies / Re: Has anyone integrated an alt-chain with Open Transactions yet? on: January 29, 2014, 11:25:01 AM
There are only two ways to use a blockchain-based currency in OT:

1. Trust an issuer to hold the coins, and then he issues the corresponding units inside OT. Markm's OT server is doing this now. This is the same as if he was holding gold, or dollars, etc.

2. Eliminate the issuer by putting the coins into a multi-sig voting pool. We are working on this now and should have the code ready soon. Note that this will only work with blockchains that support multi-sig.
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations on: January 16, 2014, 08:47:15 PM
Yeah, I believe that's what fellowtraveller is saying too, but really I wonder. It seems a kind of immature approach.

Besides, they won't like/believe anyone saying Bitcoin will destroy the dollar.

This was my point. They would never believe that the fiat empire will be destroyed. It's just completely outside of the realm of reality to them.

But they do feel a little funny about AML/KYC, so why not offer that to them? And they have recently voiced fears about losing the unit of account, so why not offer them a way to fix it? "Dollarcoin"! "Eurocoin"! This will be perfect in their eyes. They know that banks suck, and that new technology is coming out, but they want to preserve the dollar / euro. Colored coins give them a way to do these things.

What I say about colored coins isn't said in the spirit of deception. It's more in the spirit of "they would never believe us anyway, so why not offer them what they currently think they want?"

The reality is, cryptocurrencies are here to stay. The fiat empire is doomed. It is too late to change anything about that now. But they will never believe that, will they? In the meantime, let's give them what they want so we can get what we want. It will be easier for everyone.

If they ever think that could happen, they will kill Bitcoin in 1 day.

And how do you propose they will do that, the same way they killed Bittorrent?

Heck, some NSA guys are probably reading this right now and surely they're smart enough to know what's going on.

"Government" is not some giant monolithic person. It's a sea of competing interests and agencies, all composed of individuals with their own priorities.

"NSA" is not the same as "the banks." Likely the NSA doesn't really give a shit (at all) about the priorities of the banks. Most of them are probably good people who just want to protect the country. Many of them are probably like Edward Snowden -- remember where he was working?

The priority of the NSA is data collection, data mining, and systems penetration. (Not controlling the unit-of-account of our money system.)
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations on: January 15, 2014, 02:30:28 PM
Gavin, in case you are listening, here's my two cents for your CFR meeting: The rulers in high places are aware of Bitcoin by this point at its potential, and they recognize that the awful service provided by banks is leading inevitably to a shake-up that's going to involve technological improvements based on digital currencies. They accept this. Therefore their next step is going to be a slow noose-tightening. They will act incrementally.

Their number-one concern will be to protect their control over the unit-of-account. Their secondary concern will be protecting KYC/AML. I suggest you take advantage of this and get them on board with colored coins. You can point out to them that dollar-coin, euro-coin, rupee-coin, etc will enable them to protect their control over the unit of account, while simultaneously giving users the other benefits of cryptocurrency technology. Also point out to them that they will continue to have KYC/AML control if they do this, since colored coin issuers will have to by KYC/AML compliant when dealing with bank wires in/out.

Hey Chris -

Don't get me wrong - I respect the work you are doing with the OT concept. However, I fear you might be looking at the problem from too far back with your OT lenses. I really don't feel like offering up any bone is going to accomplish anything here. What's more, what bone _could_ be offered? Will Bitcoin, the base protocol, sprout colored coin garb? I think the chances are remote. We could offer up the next layer, but to what end? Distraction?

Maybe I'm just missing your point. What do you hope to accomplish, and how?

Currently anything Bitcoin-related has trouble getting a bank account.

Authorities fear losing control over the unit-of-account, and losing KYC/AML control.

Colored coins give authorities a way to support blockchain technology while preserving their unit of account. (Since colored coins are denominated in dollars, euros, etc) Also they will feel they can control the in/out process since the colored coin issuers will be KYC/AML compliant when sending/receiving bank wires.

This gives authorities incentive to allow colored-coin issuers to maintain bank accounts.

===> Once this is in place, we have many capabilities as a result:

-- Exchanges can operate anonymously and beyond any state control. To have an exchange, you must be able to trade one asset for another, such as dollars for Bitcoins. Therefore we become able to do this without having to send bank wires to the exchange. Instead, we just move Bitcoins and colored coins in/out of the exchange. (Exchange needs no bank account.) That way we can trade Bitcoins for dollars, say, yet without ever having to wire dollars in/out of the exchange. Therefore the exchange itself is now free of AML/KYC and free of the banking system in general. Exchanges can operate anonymously.

-- There is still AML/KYC when dealing with the issuer -- but most users will never have to deal with the issuer, since they can just buy/sell the colored coins from each other. The only users who will ever have to deal with banking regulations will be the ones who wire funds directly to the colored coin issuer -- but most users will never have to do that.

-- Thus: Exchanges free of the banking system.

-- And: Most users free of the banking system.


5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations on: January 14, 2014, 11:10:19 PM
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-09/13/digital-economy-task-force
"Bitcoin, Tor and Gates Foundation join task force to prevent child exploitation"

I feel like you all actually believe what you're saying which is sad beyond belief.
You didn't quote the most interesting parts.

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The Task Force, which launched in August, is not solely focused on child exploitation. It has developed working groups that aim to combat a range of illicit activities, to safeguard human rights and to encourage inter-agency coordination and law enforcement. It was launched off the back of a report by Thomson Reuters Fraud Prevention and Investigation unit about digital currency laundering.

The report detailed how criminal and terrorist organisations have turned to digital currency to reap profits from drug trafficking, prostitution and the dissemination of child abuse images.

Steve Rubley, managing director, Government Segment for the Legal business of Thomson Reuters points out that the digital economy provides a plethora of new opportunities and is central to how business is conducted but there are also "dark corners" where drug cartels can easily launder money and human sex traffickers operate in near obscurity.

The Task Force will include the Bitcoin Foundation, The Tor Project, Trend Micro, The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Cato Institute, The Brookings Institute, the US Agency for International Development and Vital Voices. The group will educate the public and work collaboratively across stakeholder groups including government agencies, law enforcement, academia, NGOs and industry.

A statement released by Thomson Reuters and ICMEC said: "The approach will be a balanced view of both the advantages and disadvantages surrounding the digital economy -- a place where people can enjoy the convenience of digital currencies, but where there are controls in place to regulate them like any other form of money."

This may be the most disturbing thing I've read all year. Especially these:

"It has developed working groups that aim to combat a range of illicit activities, to safeguard human rights and to encourage inter-agency coordination and law enforcement."

"The approach will be a balanced view of both the advantages and disadvantages surrounding the digital economy -- a place where people can enjoy the convenience of digital currencies, but where there are controls in place to regulate them like any other form of money."

Where can I read more about this on the Bitcoin Foundation website, are there any further details on the plans for this? Please post URLs anyone, if there's anything relevant. (If not, that's even scarier.)

Gavin, in case you are listening, here's my two cents for your CFR meeting: The rulers in high places are aware of Bitcoin by this point at its potential, and they recognize that the awful service provided by banks is leading inevitably to a shake-up that's going to involve technological improvements based on digital currencies. They accept this. Therefore their next step is going to be a slow noose-tightening. They will act incrementally.

Their number-one concern will be to protect their control over the unit-of-account. Their secondary concern will be protecting KYC/AML. I suggest you take advantage of this and get them on board with colored coins. You can point out to them that dollar-coin, euro-coin, rupee-coin, etc will enable them to protect their control over the unit of account, while simultaneously giving users the other benefits of cryptocurrency technology. Also point out to them that they will continue to have KYC/AML control if they do this, since colored coin issuers will have to by KYC/AML compliant when dealing with bank wires in/out.

I think offering them a way to control the unit-of-account and preserve KYC/AML will be tempting enough that they will see this as an acceptable scenario, which will hopefully make it possible to drop bank opposition to Bitcoin businesses and especially bank opposition to colored coin issuers.

I have reasons for saying this. In fact it will only help us if this happens, by eliminating problems with Bitcoin businesses and colored coin issuers being able to maintain bank accounts. We can obtain this by offering the illusion of control, but for them it will only be a pyrrhic victory. (They will not be able to believe that though, and will be seduced.) The truth is, the cryptocurrency epoch has come. With the above pieces in place, Lex Cryptographia will be a foregone conclusion. (It is anyway, but this will only make it easier.)
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Holy Grail! I wish I could kiss the author of Bitmessage on his face. on: January 07, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
Am I correct in understanding that MC is dependent on OT? If so is OT ready for prime time, can anyone set up an OT server?  Where would one start if they wanted to try? What sort of hardware would be required?

Newbie questions, I know, but I need to start somewhere.  Embarrassed  How does a newbie like myself make a positive contribution, or do I just sit and wait.

BTW, I'm nobody's Grandmother, but I am a Grandfather. I would be more than happy to be a usability guinea pig, should someone need one.  Wink

I will probably never say that OT is "ready for prime time" since, working in crypto-systems, I am extremely conservative and paranoid.

We've done a lot of testing over the past four years, but I want to do more. We've done some static/dynamic analysis, but I want to do more. We've had the code open-source for years, but I still want to pay experts to audit the code. Monetas is starting on some QA but that will be an ongoing process.

We are just now getting to the point where the Desktop app is usable, and even then we need install programs before normal users can access it. (I've been testing an install of the Mac version, but don't have an install ready yet for Windows/Linux.)

If you want to start playing with it, there's a bit of a learning curve on the server side. The first thing I would do is get a Mac or Linux system and then build OT on it:
http://github.com/Open-Transactions/Open-Transactions

Once you have it built, I would copy the sample data over:

mkdir ~/.ot
cp -R Open-Transactions/sample-data/ot-sample-data/* ~/.ot

Then you can start the server: otserver

Then you can use the command-line client. You can also use the desktop client if you want to build it:
http://github.com/Open-Transactions/Moneychanger

I have a Mac install of that desktop client, and some testers have access to it, though we will make it more accessible to others soon. We still need to make install programs for Windows/Linux but it shouldn't be too hard.

Once you are comfortable using OT with the sample data, the next step would be to create your own server contract. To get started doing that, just erase the sample data and run otserver with no data. It should walk you through the process of setting up your own server (it's no picnic.)
7  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy Grail BOUNTY on: January 06, 2014, 10:03:06 AM
Is this a windows only (systray) bounty offer?

I need to update the bounty on the Ciyam site. (Soon.)

The basic GUI is already done, as is the markets screen. (See the above recent videos to see it in action.)

The namecoin integration is done but hasn't yet been merged back into the main branch.

The Bitcoin integration is partially done.

I believe lclc is working on the HTTP interface already and has the API working through the HTTP interface.

dansmith is still working on the legacy bank integration.

===> The Bitmessage integration hasn't been done yet, perhaps we can discuss you doing that one if you wish.

The application was coded in Qt/C++ and runs on Linux, Mac, and Windows.
8  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy Grail BOUNTY on: January 06, 2014, 05:33:39 AM
Quote from: gogodr
There is one problem I didn't get clear with the videos.
If it is decentralized and the servers can't change people's balance, how will someone put dollars into the system?

Let's say my balance is 40 clams.

Then I make a transaction request:

----BEGIN SIGNED TRANSACTION---
===> My current balance is 40 clams.
===> Please send 10 clams to Bob.
===> My new balance will be 30 clams.
---END SIGNED TRANSACTION-----

The server merely verifies and counter-signs. It cannot forge transactions because it doesn't have your private key. It cannot change your balance because your "balance" is just whatever appears on the most recent receipt.

So the server CAN show balance changes -- it just can't initiate them (the user has to initiate them.)

That's all SEPARATE from how dollars get into the system. There are multiple ways that can be done:

1. Have a dollar issuer who is trusted to hold the dollars. Give him dollars, and he gives you dollar units (and vice-versa.) This would work with or without colored coins.

2. Assuming you have that, you can also buy/sell those units from any other user (not just from the issuer.)

3. OR: Create a dollar-based currency where agents provide in/out and post BTC-based bonds to secure that service. That way you don't have some trusted central issuer holding the dollars -- instead you have the dollars stored at the edge nodes, with the reserves stored as Bitcoin in a multi-sig voting pool. This is the Lex Cryptographia idea (google it.)

4. OR: Just store the reserves as Bitcoin directly, in a voting pool, and then buy/sell them using real-world dollars. That way you have dollar in/out functionality, without trusting anyone to hold any dollars (as in 3.) The currency is Bitcoin-based, instead of dollar-based, however. But you can still "move dollars in/out" so it's worth mentioning. The only reason to do (3) instead of (4) is so you can trade dollars against Bitcoins on markets.
9  Other / Alternate cryptocurrencies / Re: Open Transactions for Grandma on: January 05, 2014, 08:55:46 AM
I have tried it on Fedora 17 and on Fedora 19.

Fedora might maybe have some kind of problem with the concept of a "system tray", which seems to be a mac and/or windows concept.

However, it might be the case that more grandmas use windows or mac than use various types of Linux? (Is Android a type of Linux?) so maybe that is okay?

FellowTraveler basically just says Fedora must be using a broken windowing system or something.

1. We have many users on Linux who are able to use it just fine -- it's not a problem with Linux.

2. Google this:  "system tray" broken on Fedora.

Notice all the complaints and bug reports related to this issue on Fedora. (For other apps, like Dropbox, Skype, etc.)

3. Google these:
   A. solved "system tray" fedora
   B how to fix "system tray" fedora

(You can see there are many various solutions for this as well.)


"The missing system tray icons in Fedora 19 Gnome3"
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974937

"System Tray: You know that nice thing in the bottom right of your screen that you think even the dumbest fool couldn't break? They broke it."
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/01/23/230255/alan-cox-fedora-18-the-worst-red-hat-distro-switches-to-ubuntu

"Once installing Fedora 19 Desktop Edition, I run the systray of Qt Example. But I could not look for the system tray icon. There is no Notification area in the Activities overview."
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17460705/the-missing-system-tray-icons-on-fedora-19-desktop-edition

"I know that Gnome and Canonical have a thing for dismissing the importance of the system tray, but hiding it in such an arcane manner is just plain stupid."
http://spiralinear.org/forum/discussion/1048/gnome-3-6-review-fedora-18-approaching-maturity-but-still-has-major-issues-ahead/p1

"Hi everyone. I'm having some difficulties when i minimize a program to tray (system tray). Everytime i did it the icon that should be at the tray simply does not appear."
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/9302/minimize-to-tray/

"Gnome3 system tray not working."
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=166346

"Gnome 3 system tray area not working"
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1044335

"I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and after sorting out some other problems, I now have this problem; No system tray for HPLIP. running Gnome, rebooted quite a few times, so this problem is new."
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=10323.0

"Most of the extensions should just work, but they donít, because GNOME Shell extensions are broken by design. Let me count the ways:"
http://sc3d.tumblr.com/post/34163672571/gnome-3-extensions-the-madness-must-end

"I have a weird problem. Icons in tray area are just disappeared"
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1044322

"i think gnome15 is installed because my keyboard lights are red [they are always blue if its not working] but unfortunatly i can't see system tray"
http://www.russo79.com/forum/gnome-15/support-and-answers/184

"Tried all possible ways to give visibility to tray icons"
http://askubuntu.com/questions/136733/some-system-tray-icons-invisible-in-gnome-classic-12-04

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MarkM:

I think the problem is that Gnome may have put the systray into an extension.

We discussed this on IRC previously -- have you installed the systray extension?

I recommend you get a windowing system that works but otherwise you might try the extensions, such as:

https://extensions.gnome.org/review/1591

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P.S. most Linux users do not have this problem. lclc, randy, da2ce7, and others have not reported any problems, so it's not specific to Linux. And of course the problem doesn't occur on Mac or Windows either.

10  Other / Alternate cryptocurrencies / Re: Open Transactions for Grandma on: January 04, 2014, 10:04:23 PM
I have tried it on Fedora 17 and on Fedora 19.

Fedora might maybe have some kind of problem with the concept of a "system tray", which seems to be a mac and/or windows concept.

However, it might be the case that more grandmas use windows or mac than use various types of Linux? (Is Android a type of Linux?) so maybe that is okay?

FellowTraveler basically just says Fedora must be using a broken windowing system or something.

1. We have many users on Linux who are able to use it just fine -- it's not a problem with Linux.

2. Google this:  "system tray" broken on Fedora.

Notice all the complaints and bug reports related to this issue on Fedora. (For other apps, like Dropbox, Skype, etc.)

3. Google these:
   A. solved "system tray" fedora
   B how to fix "system tray" fedora

(You can see there are many various solutions for this as well.)
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Holy Grail! I wish I could kiss the author of Bitmessage on his face. on: January 04, 2014, 12:06:42 AM
fellowtraveler,

I see you're speaking at the Miami conference in a couple of weeks. Will you be discussing the technical details of OT during your talk? If not, would you consider a mini breakout session?

I suppose I could do a breakout session. I'll be walking around for a few days answering questions anyway I'm sure.

I suggest also checking out the wiki, the videos, etc.
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Holy Grail! I wish I could kiss the author of Bitmessage on his face. on: January 03, 2014, 06:15:50 AM
Not meaning to necro, but just wanted to make sure everyone got the latest update on this project.

I've just recorded some new videos showing the desktop client in action.

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INTRO:  http://goo.gl/Ea6rzq

Send/receive payment, invoicing, untraceable cash, namecoin integration, end-to-end encrypted messaging, etc.

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ADVANCED:   http://goo.gl/i0J3AF

Market trading, decentralized bazaar, virtual corporations, smart contracts, legacy banking integration, etc.

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Also, the videos reference a couple of articles. Here are the links to those articles:


Voting Pools: How to Stop the Plague of Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses

http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/12/voting-pools-how-to-stop-plague-of.html


Lex Cryptographia

http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/12/lex-cryptographia.html
13  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy Grail BOUNTY on: December 28, 2013, 07:04:02 PM
Here are some brand new videos of this app:


Intro: http://goo.gl/Ea6rzq

Advanced: http://goo.gl/i0J3AF
Thanks for the videos.

Market scaling... "Lump sum or nothing" option unquestionably is the most principal approach but is not enough for a truly liquid market. Very often users have nothing in spite if their limit orders are partially executed. They must be able to make a choice for the type of market scaling of their orders?

Partial execution - allowed/not allowed => if allowed => define minimum size of a single lot (default minimum must be the minimal denomination of the traded asset).

OT markets are very powerful:

-- Market orders (buy/sell full order at any price.)

-- Limit orders (where a price is set per scale.)

-- Scaled markets (price per 1 BTC, price per 100 BTC, price per 10000 BTC, etc -- these can be different markets based on scale.)

-- Fill-or-kill orders (fill the entire order, or no trades at all.)

-- Minimum increments (multiplied against scale. For example, if the scale is 1, and the minimum increment is 4, then the order will trade on the 1 BTC market, but only increments of 4 BTC at a time.)

-- Stop orders. (The offer only activates when the price reaches a certain amount, and then once it activates, it becomes a market order.)

-- Stop limits. (The offer only activates when the price reaches a certain amount, and then once it activates, it becomes a limit order.)
14  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy Grail BOUNTY on: December 27, 2013, 06:22:53 PM
Merry Christmas!


Here are some brand new videos of this app:


Intro: http://goo.gl/Ea6rzq

Advanced: http://goo.gl/i0J3AF


===> P.S. in the videos, I mention a couple of articles. Here are the links to those articles:

http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/12/voting-pools-how-to-stop-plague-of.html

http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/12/lex-cryptographia.html

THX FT! How is that with the password when cash is exported. You set it to "blabla". You didn't need it to import, though. Or was it copied to clipboard together with the rest? Is a PW just needed for the blinding process?

Because OT uses a passphrase to create or unlock a private key.

Once it does, that private key is securely cached until it times out (say, 30 seconds, or 5 minutes -- it's configurable.)

(Otherwise you might have to type a password 5 times during a single action.)

So it never asked again for that PW because it already had the key unlocked, and it hadn't timed out yet.
15  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy Grail BOUNTY on: December 26, 2013, 12:04:17 PM
Merry Christmas!


Here are some brand new videos of this app:


Intro: http://goo.gl/Ea6rzq

Advanced: http://goo.gl/i0J3AF


===> P.S. in the videos, I mention a couple of articles. Here are the links to those articles:

http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/12/voting-pools-how-to-stop-plague-of.html

http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/12/lex-cryptographia.html
16  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: bitcoins with homomorphic value (validatable but encrypted) on: November 27, 2013, 10:07:42 PM
that proves that the economic benefits of a truly anonymous untraceable coin outweigh the problems it may bring.

Gold itself is a truly anonymous untraceable coin.

What is better for the economy, gold? Or a version of gold that the government can track and control and freeze and confiscate at will, from any place on the earth?

When gold was the primary money, did it fill the earth with terrorists, drug dealers, and child pornographers?



Bow before your false god if you wish, but it has murdered hundreds of millions in the last century alone.
17  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy Grail BOUNTY on: November 27, 2013, 11:32:48 AM
Note that this bounty wasn't for the translations into various languages, but rather for the internationalization coding itself.
Yes, exactly.

lclc, could you provide the manual of how people willing to start translations of OT and Moneychanger UI into their own languages should use your code to do that?

FYI I wouldn't start the translations until, as lclc said, the first version of the app is ready.

Otherwise if some of the english strings end up having to change, the translations will require re-work as well.
18  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: blind-hashcash, potential bitcoin applications using blind brands certs/ecash on: November 27, 2013, 01:04:57 AM
watching
19  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: bitcoins with homomorphic value (validatable but encrypted) on: November 27, 2013, 01:04:32 AM
watching
20  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy Grail BOUNTY on: November 25, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
Hi all,

I've been busy the past week or two implementing the Markets UI.

I had to make changes in OT itself so that it would support market orders. (OT now supports market orders, limit orders, day orders, fill-or-kill orders, stop orders, and stop limits.)

I've got the Markets UI about half done and should have it finished up in the next day or so. (I will not be collecting the money, but will instead re-allocate it to other tasks of this project.)

Re: Internationalization. Lclc already coded the internationalization, though he hasn't collected the bounty yet, I will be paying it out to him soon. I will also be paying Xenland his share of the basic UI bounty (Xenland, be sure to send me your BTC address.)

Note that this bounty wasn't for the translations into various languages, but rather for the internationalization coding itself.

Once I finish the Markets UI I'll record a demo video so everyone can see it in action. Also I should note that Yamamushi recently got an install.dmg working for the Mac platform!
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