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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Next big thing in crypto? on: February 15, 2020, 08:21:12 PM
Plenty of things can happen as a next big thing in crypto. My personal bets are:
1. Real dapps get their real adoption. Many people don’t see it, cause such projects usually don’t get much traction. But when they do, we can see SNX from 5 to 150mil in a couple months. And I’m not talking about SNX here, cause it’s been mostly a pnd, but still a real adoption led to that pnd, not just worthless hype or news. There are plenty of projects, slowly developing and acquiring customers base. Still, they have almost zero traction in crypto world and almost never followed by crypto community. Why? Cause they spend their money developing their real business. And crypto related marketing usually brings unnecessary hype, followed by pnd. And real projects don’t need that. Ask any CEO who want to really develop his business if he wants his stock to be pumped and dumped then. I believe no one tell you he wants that thing to happen. Instead he’ll want to have a steady business growth. Real customers. Real cash flowing into his business, by providing worthy services or goods. Tokens aren’t stocks. But for crypto projects it’s usually the only reflection of their inner value. So I’m in such projects, who’ve built their solution during those 2 years since ICO, now slowly acquiring customers base who pays real money, generating revenue, which reflects in a slow tokens price growth, cause of buybacks and burns. Check such things as BCDT, VRA, VIDT and others with such approach. Buybacks/burns. Ready to use solution which can benefit real world. Paying customers. Licenses. I believe many, if dig deep in those will see how far we are now in terms of real adoption since 2017;
2. BTC massive adoption as store of value. I’ve already said that and will say it again. As for its inner qualities, BTC right now is the best SOV in existence. Government currencies could replace cash. But those will never change gold or other SOVs. If one country decide to emit its own crypto cash, that’s gonna be just its own national currency. But with more control over it from the government. Pretty similar to xrp, iota and other completely centralized coins. You should ask yourself, would you really use a coin, which can be completely eradicated from your account by let’s say China, if you’re US government? I seriously doubt it. Such currencies can really change cash on inner market. But those will never become a world currency or a new gold standard, cause they’d belong and gonna be controlled by a single entity. Completely opposite to BTC or gold, or most other SOVs;
3. Technological breakthroughs. Will we see ETH staying decentralized and have it’s current qualities with its new POS thing? Time will tell. But I believe if it’s gonna be the same old ETH, decentralized and secure, with 1-10k tps, that will bring new big opportunities to the whole crypto universe.
2  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Почему биткойн НЕ БУДЕТ стоить 100 000$ on: December 08, 2019, 03:29:31 PM
Агрессивность автора не понятна от слова совсем. Любые абсолютисты, что биток по ляму, что биток по нулю имхо внимания не заслуживают.
Если есть желание адекватно на эту тему поговорить и обсудить, почему может или не может цена актива преодолеть какую то отметку, го в личку, обсудим. Интересно услышать здравую аргументацию.
Глобально, любой рынок - это пузырь. Глобально, внутренней ценности не существует, потому что объективно ее оценить невозможно. Глобально, объективной реальности не существует. Каждый в своём мире живет, ограниченный разнообразными кодексами законов.
Единственный реальный способ оценивать потенциальную стоимость актива - смотреть на подобные ему активы.  Грамотный экономист при желании, любой актив подпишет под пузырь. Сдутый, надувающийся или надутый - уже другой вопрос. Как раз тот, который и нужно задавать, если глубоко копать.
Существует масса возможностей и факторов, который могут привести биток к тому, что он заменит все деньги в мире. И финансовая система поменяется, как было в своё время уже и ни раз. Также, и обратных факторов существует масса. Которые говорят о том, что биток, как и всю крипту ждёт забвение. И скажу больше, даже в штатах, судя по всему идёт борьба интересов. Одни топят за перемены фин системы и принятие битка. Другие за обратное. Решит ли их борьба судьбу битка? Нет. Есть и другие страны. В которых также нет консенсуса.
Поэтому в долгосрочных инвестициях, которые ты не контролируешь, все зависит от одного фактора. Веришь что будет с активом так, а не иначе? Стоит овчинка выделки (РОИ)? Вперёд - инвестируй. Не стоит на твой взгляд? Так никто не заставляет пока что крипту покупать/использовать.
3  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: [ICO] FERRUM NETWORK - Интepoпepaбeльнaя сeть и блoкчeйн DAG on: December 08, 2019, 10:06:54 AM
За лайки постов у меня и с крупной суммы выходит около 10% годовых в токенах. Я на эту тему писал разрабу, что золотой пул вообще не имеет никакого смысла, потому что у меня лично тупо за лайк с соц майнинга выходит больше процент, чем в золотом пуле.
Думаю что выгодно будет в ноды вложиться, когда сеть запустят. Вообще проект очень интересный, особенно учитывая крайне низкую капитализацию. Один из топовых у меня в списке недооценёнок. Перспективный рынок, низкая капа, активные разрабы, готовый (частично) продукт. Думаю, что с подобных проектов начнётся новая волна интереса к крипте в своё время.
Ну мы тут уже поняли что с 5-10к токенов выходит примерно 3-4% за две недели, суммы выше не писали, но для мелких выходит очень хорошо. А у Вас сумма в промежутке 50-100к что выходит 10% годовых? Сейчас уже конечно поздно разбивать на мелкие и держать много аккаунтов, но просто интересно как выгодней работать с этой платформой с другими проектами и вообще мультиакки там пройдут или есть какая то защита?
Сколько токенов писать не буду. Просто знайте, что с крупных сумм чуть больше 10% годовых выходит. Даже было так, что я по началу активно лайки ставил, выплаты росли, я даже внимания не обращал сколько там капает. Потом они выпустили пулы. Я посчитал, сколько у меня выходило, после того, как я 2 или 3 недели вообще ничего не делал. Получилось порядка 11% годовых. Написал про это разрабу, что ничего не делаю, а выходит больше % даже чем в пуле.. Он мне написал, что такого быть не может. Я спорить не стал))
Там фишка в том, что чем больше токенов и чем дольше ты их держишь, тем выше выплаты. Плюс лайки как-то тоже влияют. Ну и естественно если контент даёшь тоже больше выплаты.
Потом я докинул ещё токенов в кошелёк, которые у меня на BEP лежали и о которых я благополучно забыл. Сразу после этого перевода токенов стало больше на 25% примерно. Выплата в % естественно снизилась по отношению к депозиту. Но сейчас прошло 2 недели, каждый день лайкаю посты утром и вечером, и у меня снова сейчас уже около 12% годовых. К текущему депозиту.
С мелких депов конечно можно и намного больше поднимать в %. Хотя для этого мне кажется надо пилить контент. Нормальный контент, иначе заминусят и вообще выплат не будет. Но даже с крупного депа, все равно выходит довольно выгодно, учитывая, что действий на 5 минут в день максимум.



Лично я даже не стал заходить в этот соц.майнинг,делаешь эти репосты,пишешь посты,при этом ещё вкладываешь свои токены,и получаешь какие-то копейки,пусть сделают пул больше,тогда и люди будут охотнее в этом участвовать
Там особо и не нужно делать репосты, писать посты и так далее. Да если все это делать то возможность получать больше. А так это для тех у кого есть токены, особенно от баунти, где просто регистрируешься на платформе, привязываешь кошелек где лежат токены (доступы только у вас!) и просто голосуешь за чужой контент, это занимает пару минут в день, при этом начисления будут идти по 3-4% от вашей суммы. Так что это и не работа и особого руда нет, а вот те кто все таки делает все, то и получают по 50 баксов и выше.

Нет, делать всё недостаточно для того, чтобы получить высокий уровень вознаграждения. Я в течение недель между выплатами занимал как-то подряд все недели первую строчку в рейтинге недельном, но по итогам даже близко результат не соответствовал тем, что первые строчки по вознаграждению. Там как-то сложнее всё работает.
Вот это как раз из-за того, что на кошельке мало токенов. Чем больше токенов И, что также очень важно, чем дольше их держать, тем выше будет вознаграждение итоговое. Это относится к любым активностям, что лайкам, что контенту.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Altcoins not Growing These Days on: December 08, 2019, 08:10:21 AM
In my view, there are 2 main reasons for that, fundamental ones.
First, exchanges manipulate prices like crazy. You can see it on new listings, on old coins, just everywhere. They’ve learned how to earn money directly from their users deposits. As soon as they did, we’ve seen a massive price drop of alts in 2018. And we continue to see it right now. If you think that it’s impossible for exchange to suppress price of low cap coin, then you have to check FRM for example. They’ve had 200k usd initial mcap. And it was suppressed even with such a low mcap. How? Cause most users transferred their coins on one exchange to never withdraw it again. In such case exchange can continuously dump users tokens on the heads of those who buy more and not transfer those tokens out from exchange. Such manipulation obviously comes with a high risk, especially on a low cap coin, where every once in a while a rather big investor finds out about the project and try to make a withdraw. And exchange in this case have to stop withdrawals/deposits. Cause they simply doesn’t have enough coins to make a payment. In other case, exchange “got hacked”.
Second, users hold most their coins on exchanges. And those who doesn’t, usually hold them for a long time without trying to buy/sell. Such behavior on users side, make it possible for exchanges to have a full control over the price and let them easily earn from dumping price.

If you interested how exactly exchanges do that. They just consider users tokens/coins as their own. Use them as a leverage. Sell let’s say at 1usd and quickly dump it to no less than 50% of its price. If person see less than 50% price drop, with enough liquidity, he’ll consider cutting the loss. With more than 50% price drop, person consider to hold until recovery. The lower the price, the less people consider cutting the loss. At 90% drop almost no one really cares about cutting the loss anymore and just hold infinitely.
So it dropped 40%. People start selling massively. Exchange buy back from those people and now they just earned 0.4usd from every token they’ve leveraged at 1usd. Now they can repeat this scheme taking 0.6usd price as a basis.
And they can repeat this thing indefinitely, until someone try to make a big withdrawal in the wrong moment. If there are many such clients at once, exchange stops withdrawals/deposits. Until they’ll purchase tokens somewhere else.

What can you do to change that? Just never hold your tokens on any exchange. And use exchanges only when you really have to buy more/sell the pump. The sooner more people realize that, the sooner market starts recovery.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: p2pb2b is doing shit again on: December 08, 2019, 07:37:29 AM
I do not understand how such exchanges still exist? In what jurisdiction are they registered?Why are they promoting really fraudulent coins?Who knows the answer to these questions-please answer.
No one does. Try to find who is controlling Binance or Bitmax, or Bitfinex, or almost any other top exchange. Only thing stops top exchanges from doing such an obvious fraud is they know that their reputation will give them much more money with not so obvious fraud.
Even those top exchanges struggle acquiring new customers, so their schemes become more and more obvious each day. And small exchanges have almost zero real customers, which leads to such listings.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What’s the best coin to buy apart from bitcoin on: December 08, 2019, 06:54:58 AM
Depends on your goals. If you target long term and maximum ROI, only target micro caps, under 1mil. There are some of them completely under the radar, cause devs struggling with crypto related marketing, on the other hand they have working product, real world usecase and most importantly customers.
If you seek safety, only purchase BTC for now. Any other mid/high cap coin is no better than BTC. And talking about blockchains (not app tokens), you’ll never know which one will be actually used in the future by business or retail. In terms of apps, it’s always better to buy them instead of blockchains, except BTC. Cause dapp can move between different blockchains. Only matters their own business.
I usually compare it to Betamax and VHS thing. Only 2 formats who competed the market. Even in their case you had 50/50 chance to pick the right one. In crypto it’s like 1 in a 100 or even 1000 chance. On the other hand, you can purchase a small video store share, which can easily trade both and in the end will only sell VHS. In the future will trade CD, DVD, BLU-RAY. In the end becomes a huge electronics store, or just a great local store. No matter if you purchased it at under 1mil cap and in the end it becomes 10mil or a 100mil. You’re still in profit.
So in any case, either purchase BTC or under 1mil Dapps. Which have working product, customers and a great blockchain usecase.
I won’t hype my own list of such micro cap coins here. You should make your own analysis and try to find such projects yourself. I believe it’s possible in a matter of couple days/a week. Then maybe another week for more in-depth analysis of top choices. And you’re good to buy 2-3 projects for a long term hold.
7  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: [ICO] FERRUM NETWORK - Интepoпepaбeльнaя сeть и блoкчeйн DAG on: December 07, 2019, 09:30:14 PM
За лайки постов у меня и с крупной суммы выходит около 10% годовых в токенах. Я на эту тему писал разрабу, что золотой пул вообще не имеет никакого смысла, потому что у меня лично тупо за лайк с соц майнинга выходит больше процент, чем в золотом пуле.
Думаю что выгодно будет в ноды вложиться, когда сеть запустят. Вообще проект очень интересный, особенно учитывая крайне низкую капитализацию. Один из топовых у меня в списке недооценёнок. Перспективный рынок, низкая капа, активные разрабы, готовый (частично) продукт. Думаю, что с подобных проектов начнётся новая волна интереса к крипте в своё время.
8  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Неужели сезон альткоинов? on: December 07, 2019, 09:22:36 PM
Забавно. Если почитать посты в начале темы (август, вот вот сезон альтов) и в конце (не, ещё не время, усредняться рискованно), то выходит, что сезон альтов где-то рядом))
А вообще, лучше вкладываться либо в биток, либо в микро капы, либо туда и туда. Никакого смысла вливать в долгую в то, что сейчас стоит 30-100млн, учитывая, что есть не хуже проекты с капой до 1млн. Рынок весь перекошен. Куча недооценённых и переоцененных проектов.
Так что вложиться, если в долгую, то можно сейчас легко в микрокапы. Если на поторговать в надежде на памп и альтсезон, то лучше все таки дождаться его начала и первых симптомов.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Recent Icos facts on: December 07, 2019, 04:24:14 PM
In my experience, right now is much better to invest in solid projects, already listed. Some of them have working product, but not enough customers to significantly affect tokens price. And such projects can be crazily undervalued, comparing to big ones, listed on top exchanges.
Try to find projects with less than 1mil mcap, they should  have a working product and actively trying to find customers. Better if they already have a few. To make sure they won’t run out of funds, check their ICO adress and try to ask them for their financial info, if they’ve sold collected funds for usd.
I can’t say there are a lot of such projects, but you’ll definitely find 2-3 good ones and that will be enough. My personal expectation is that those will bring a fortune, either during next bull run, or if they’ll succeed in their customers acquisition.
It’s a risky investment for sure, but much less risky, than investing in ICOs with 10mil+ mcap, which have nothing but an idea or hype behind it.
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: don't screw with the market with fake stuff anymore: im contacting attoneys now on: December 06, 2019, 10:51:42 AM
Go get them!
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why would one pay $7K for Bitcoin if he/she can get the same thing for $0.001? on: December 06, 2019, 10:47:25 AM
What’s the difference between Picasso’s “the Dream” and a child’s school painting? Answer the question why one costs 150mln, while other is 0. Then you’ll have a clear understanding between BTC and similar coins price difference.
You can’t compare pricing between different kinds of assets. Pricing of consumer goods asset class and store of value (SOV) asset class is absolutely different.
BTC is the best SOV in existence. Firstly, because of its inner qualities. Limited supply, impossible forgery, high liquidity, instant transfers, zero cost storage. You can argue with each of those qualities in general, but you have to compare those with other SOVs. Not with let’s say smartphones or cars, or cash (usd, eu, any other). You have to compare it with gold, arts, real estates.
Secondly, comparing BTC to other coins. Please, feel free to find and show another coin with same qualities, worths million times lower. By qualities, I mean same safety, supply, tokenomic model, premine and so on. Maybe you’ll find a few similar. But here comes supply and demand. In order to become a store of value, people should actually use it (have trust) as SOV and be able to transfer, and convert it easily. BTC is trusted and used as SOV right now. And at current mcap it fulfills all the needs of people who use it in terms of SOV. Billions are stored and transferred via BTC network. When there will be a need for tens or hundreds of billions to be stored in BTC, we will see natural mcap growth.
Why Picasso’s painting worth 100mln+? Cause people decided to use it as SOV. And never sell it lower than they’ve purchased it. That’s it. It has all qualities of SOV as well. All of them are worse than the same of BTC, except total supply. Only 1 painting and 21mln BTC.
So what do we got in the end? To become a SOV, asset should have qualities of it (inner  value) and people should decide to use it as SOV. No other coin like that for now.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] United Traders: ⚡️ The High-End Solutions in Trading Technology ⚡️ on: December 19, 2017, 08:56:33 PM
What you mean by "declare"?))) So you collect 20mio USD to just say - Hi, here we are?))
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] United Traders: ⚡️ The High-End Solutions in Trading Technology ⚡️ on: December 19, 2017, 08:47:13 PM
So you guys need ICO for what? Company is in the market since 2009. What have you developed since then?

UT is a nice Russian company, you had your highs and deeps. But I still dont get it, why you guys need tokens?
To pay trading fees? But your clients already pay you those trading fees. Will your clients have discounts on their fees, like it is on Binance for example?
Use tokens to pay for consultations? - Dont get why you need tokens in order to do that. Cause you already have different Educational programs, which you sell to your clients for USD.
Use tokens to pay for ads/clicks/articles? - so now you're some kind of social network?
Create an decentralised exchange? - so... what use for UT tokens? Share profit? But I thought you have an utility token, not prfoit sharing.

You guys always try to make EVERYTHING. But when you tries to trade US stocks with one hand, push an ICO with another, create a social network with your leg, consult with ICO with another leg, make a trading platform with ... what you have left with??

I really wish you best luck, but better you concentrate on ONE thing and become best at. Hope this ICO wont fall like a brick, like 99% of other Russian ICOs, cause my personal opinion is that because of projects like that, which DONT NEED AN ICO in the first place, investors dont trust ANY Russian projects, even good ones.

Right now this ICO looks like a money grab, without a single need to integrate blockchain tech on this stage of development.

I specifically didnt post this right after ICO began, cause I really wish you best luck guys, even if that means to collect money from noobs on this market and buy a company's yacht))

PS And what in the universe means "dimension trading" of Anatoly R?Huh Is he like Doc Strange???
14  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bittrex ignores thousands of clients! on: December 01, 2017, 02:56:02 PM
Same situation. Almost 3 weeks passed since sent them my docs for manual verification cause of name missmatch. Im done with this exchange, as many others.
3 weeks just to look in the passport and photo is too much for me. From the top exchange on my list Bittrex turned to the worst, cause never met such a freaky situation on this market. Even scammy exchanges withdrawl client's funds.

As soon as they release my funds, will never have any deals with them no matter what. And I guess the best tactics for us all will be to recomend ALL our friends never use this scam ever again. Cause of my money frozen I lost potential profits. Bittrex should lose as well.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] AirToken | Mobile Data Accessibility | Token Sale Complete $15M USD on: November 10, 2017, 09:06:30 AM
They definitely need to change their marketing team. Cause right now those guys are just ruining potentially great project.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀📈[ANN-Presale-ICO] ATLANT World’s Real Estate Blockchain Platform📈🚀🌟🌟 on: August 14, 2017, 12:18:38 PM
Hi! Have a couple of questions for DEVS:

1). What will be the total cap during ICO in USD or ETH;
2). Why do you think that price of this token will grow.

THX
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: August 09, 2017, 01:08:31 PM

Are you kidding me?Huh

This is the first time I regret about my investment... You had to start TEST net in JULY!!!! July for god sake!!!!! It was told to every investor here. Then delay, delay, delay... And now freaking october?Huh?? Is that a joke?Huh? You need 2 month to run a TEST NET?HuhHuhHuh So we will see a real product in a couple of years or what?HuhHuh You broke your own roadmap unbeliavably!!!!

Worst project I've seen... The worse than this will be just it turns to be scam in the end.



Seems like many ppl in this thread are new to crypto or developing software as a whole....yes there will be unforeseen bugs which occur while developing and yes this will cause delays. Will there be more delays? Maybe.

But this only shows that the Exscudo team is professional and wants to release a secure and polished product. Who wants a bug riddled code for an exchange which puts the money of it's investors at risk?
Do u, @Sunsayzxc?

I'm sorry if u have planned to sell your Tokens of this "scam" project as soon as they hit the market...looks like u have to wait a little longer.  
Kiss

Loool. This is really funny to see how TRUE BELIEVERS try to protect the Devs after they lied to us all:

- We will run our test net in a month after ICO! - Great! Cool!! Good luck! So professional...
- Oh, you have to wait a month till the TEST net launch
- Well, ok with that.
- Oh, one more month please, we want to make the best product!
- not so cool, but ok. BUT, You still have our trust...
- Oh, right now we decided to delay it by 2!!! more month, cause you know, didnt we already tell that want to adjust safety of our platform?
!!!- hmmm.... AND WHAT WERE YOU THINKING 2 months ago?!?!? So 2 months ago you didnt have to make platform safe? You didnt want to make best product ever? You didnt know that you'll have to test the freaking TEST NET for so long?!?!?!

4 month waitig instead of 1!!!! - you OK with that?? really??? You really think that it's normal for a team of professionals?? I dont think so... MAYBE if community wasnt so patient, devs would have HURRY UP in the first place.

I didnt invest much. Cause diversification, you know. BUT when someone tries to make me an idiot, feeding with promises which never comes true, well... I become really angry.


If you didn't invest much, don't scream out loud. It is normal for project to be delayed. Just like every project you invest, there is a great chance it will not succeed. Understand your risk before investing. We are early investors, we must continue to show support to give the team the moral to continue to develop. Screaming at the dev team will not create any value. Hope you learn your lesson and don't invest in ICO.

Hope you wont tell nonsense in the future anymore... Maybe you will answer to my accusations or shut up?? I dont care if the dev has to delay. I tell you, that they lied in the first place about their roadmap. PROVE ME WRONG!! Cause I have proofs based on their OWN WORDS!!!

Or you wanna tell me that rescheduling EVERY MONTH is not a lie in the first place??

I'll ask you again:

1). Devs have their one and ONLY argument about the delay - We have to make platform safe and out of bugs.
2). I ask in return - And BEFORE all this ICO, when you created your roadmap - YOU DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE PLATFORM SAFE AND BUG FREE?HuhHuh? So you wanted to provide us with bad and unsafe product at first or what?Huh

Just turn on your brain and THINK please... this is not a rocket science...

SHOW US DEVELOPMENT NOT JUST BEUATIFUL SCREENSHOTS!!!!! Show us your TEST NET!!! We dont care if there are a lot of bugs in there!!!!! Just show us your product and what you did during the last 2!!!! month!!!



If you know anything about software programming, then you should realize that timelines are always approximate. Utilizing the word "a lie" is an overstatement. A lie is an indication that someone intended to intentionally manipulate you. What we dealing with here are unforeseen circumstances which are constantly present while coding. You don't scream at a video game company to release a delayed game with a flaw. You might fuss that your fav game release date is delayed but you understand it's so because they have to work out kinks. The dev team has been constant with the update, you should appreciate it cos that sign of a dependable team. Before you lose your shit anymore, you should go read up on software development, then maybe you can appreciate the nuisances involved. The problem with most crypto investors, is they forget that this space is similar to other investment medium. I don't see anyone buying a tesla stock then screaming and yapping if mass production of announced line is delayed. It's all the same dynamic.


Ok... now I see that there are not much sense here...

Do you know what a deadline is? Do you know what for, developers provide investors with a roadmap? Do you know, why almost every roadmap states Q1, Q2 and so on instead of month?

This thing going on with this project HAS NOTHING to do with soft development. Right now, I'm 100% sure, that Devs just have absolutely nothing to show us instead of some beautiful (NO) pictures. Why am I so sure?

Well, have a look at all the news came out since ICO was finished. Some meet ups, some nice words about what they are doing. AND NO FREAKING PROOF!!!!

Am I asking about a finished product here??? HELL NO!!! I'm asking about stupid TEST NET!!!! Where we all could take part!!!

BUT What the dev told us? Oh.. but it is SOOOOO HARD to turn it on and look for bugs together, cause to solve them, they'll have to relaunch test net every time. So please tell me, IF you are so well aware about soft development... WHERE IS THE DIFFERENCE between trying to find bugs together AND hunting bugs among the devs only in case of net relaunch?Huh In the last case, they don't need to relaunch TEST NET? HOW SO??? Does it exist at all??? Or they try to find bug where? In the CORE???

And I'll tell you why this is happening. The only reason not to launch test net for public use is that it is either extremely useless and full of massive bugs OR there is no TEST NET at all!!! The first - just tells us that devs DIDNT DO ANYTHING during the last 2 months. Just spending our money for personal needs. Second one, shows that this project is a scam.

So please tell me, where am I wrong? And why the hell no answer from DEVS???
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】【pre-sale】BLOCKLANCER█ 🌟 FREELANCE 🌟 JOIN THE 1 TRILLION $ MARKET on: August 09, 2017, 05:18:06 AM
Well, all ICOs are stuck right now. It is really nice idea to stop this one and reschedule to september! Good luck in development!! Will support your new campaign for sure!
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: investFeed [$IFT] ICO Official Thread-Cryptocurrency Incentivized Social Network on: August 09, 2017, 04:49:53 AM
When exchanges?
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: August 08, 2017, 05:22:12 AM

Are you kidding me?Huh

This is the first time I regret about my investment... You had to start TEST net in JULY!!!! July for god sake!!!!! It was told to every investor here. Then delay, delay, delay... And now freaking october?Huh?? Is that a joke?Huh? You need 2 month to run a TEST NET?HuhHuhHuh So we will see a real product in a couple of years or what?HuhHuh You broke your own roadmap unbeliavably!!!!

Worst project I've seen... The worse than this will be just it turns to be scam in the end.



Seems like many ppl in this thread are new to crypto or developing software as a whole....yes there will be unforeseen bugs which occur while developing and yes this will cause delays. Will there be more delays? Maybe.

But this only shows that the Exscudo team is professional and wants to release a secure and polished product. Who wants a bug riddled code for an exchange which puts the money of it's investors at risk?
Do u, @Sunsayzxc?

I'm sorry if u have planned to sell your Tokens of this "scam" project as soon as they hit the market...looks like u have to wait a little longer.  
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Loool. This is really funny to see how TRUE BELIEVERS try to protect the Devs after they lied to us all:

- We will run our test net in a month after ICO! - Great! Cool!! Good luck! So professional...
- Oh, you have to wait a month till the TEST net launch
- Well, ok with that.
- Oh, one more month please, we want to make the best product!
- not so cool, but ok. BUT, You still have our trust...
- Oh, right now we decided to delay it by 2!!! more month, cause you know, didnt we already tell that want to adjust safety of our platform?
!!!- hmmm.... AND WHAT WERE YOU THINKING 2 months ago?!?!? So 2 months ago you didnt have to make platform safe? You didnt want to make best product ever? You didnt know that you'll have to test the freaking TEST NET for so long?!?!?!

4 month waitig instead of 1!!!! - you OK with that?? really??? You really think that it's normal for a team of professionals?? I dont think so... MAYBE if community wasnt so patient, devs would have HURRY UP in the first place.

I didnt invest much. Cause diversification, you know. BUT when someone tries to make me an idiot, feeding with promises which never comes true, well... I become really angry.


If you didn't invest much, don't scream out loud. It is normal for project to be delayed. Just like every project you invest, there is a great chance it will not succeed. Understand your risk before investing. We are early investors, we must continue to show support to give the team the moral to continue to develop. Screaming at the dev team will not create any value. Hope you learn your lesson and don't invest in ICO.

Hope you wont tell nonsense in the future anymore... Maybe you will answer to my accusations or shut up?? I dont care if the dev has to delay. I tell you, that they lied in the first place about their roadmap. PROVE ME WRONG!! Cause I have proofs based on their OWN WORDS!!!

Or you wanna tell me that rescheduling EVERY MONTH is not a lie in the first place??

I'll ask you again:

1). Devs have their one and ONLY argument about the delay - We have to make platform safe and out of bugs.
2). I ask in return - And BEFORE all this ICO, when you created your roadmap - YOU DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE PLATFORM SAFE AND BUG FREE?HuhHuh? So you wanted to provide us with bad and unsafe product at first or what?Huh

Just turn on your brain and THINK please... this is not a rocket science...

SHOW US DEVELOPMENT NOT JUST BEUATIFUL SCREENSHOTS!!!!! Show us your TEST NET!!! We dont care if there are a lot of bugs in there!!!!! Just show us your product and what you did during the last 2!!!! month!!!

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