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321  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best wallet for cold storage on: July 21, 2015, 10:30:31 AM
bitcoin core is the best choice if you want to cold storage your coins.
                                                                                       
Tell me how.
Afaik it's a hot wallet
322  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best wallet for cold storage on: July 21, 2015, 09:22:04 AM
Hi,
I'm going to save some Bitcoins for the future. Which is the safest way to store them?
I was thinking about a wallet on a usb flash drive. Which wallet should I choose?

Thank you

Take a strip of metal and carve your (unencrypted) private key into it and bury it somewhere.
You can also take a piece of polished granite to carve your private key, this way it will not be detectable by a metal detector.



If your just needing to hide from others something such as a in the wall compartment might work nicely: http://www.amazon.com/Meridian-Point-Hidden-Wall-Outlet/dp/B0082CRN2Q/

It will not protect you from fire though.  So I suggest keeping copy of paper wallet in bank box.

Why would you put it in a bank box.
Why would you give the access to your private information to someone else?
Why not just print it out, put it in a plastic bag and box and bury it in your garden?


Bitcoin is lost when we keep giving our complete trust to the banksters and their lockers...
323  Economy / Speculation / Re: Direction is NNE (north northeast) - MOON TIME on: July 21, 2015, 08:20:30 AM
I see it to go up only because that whole greece mess isnt fixed nor it will be.

And now its just a matter of seeing a country fail..

I don't agree with you.  Greece was just a spark which started this moon cycle.  Bitcoin is now feeded by GREED.

i don't think so, bitcoin is not feeded by greece, big manipulator has seen the whole greece exit as the biggest opportunity to pump bitcoin and to catch some newbies fish in the net

now that everything is done they have stopped their trap

He said GREED.
And we all know:
GREED IS GOOD
324  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best wallet for cold storage on: July 21, 2015, 08:06:28 AM
Hi,
I'm going to save some Bitcoins for the future. Which is the safest way to store them?
I was thinking about a wallet on a usb flash drive. Which wallet should I choose?

Thank you

Take a strip of metal and carve your (unencrypted) private key into it and bury it somewhere.
You can also take a piece of polished granite to carve your private key, this way it will not be detectable by a metal detector.

325  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Balance with 215,000 BTC, what is this one about? on: July 20, 2015, 03:56:23 PM
Thanks, now I also know that http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100 is outdated.
The address is not included in the list, who knows how many more.

This list is only for TOP 100 with "Total Received" not "Final Balance".

How can you have so many bitcoins without receiving them?
Also, every address I click on that site has same amount for both received and final balance.
326  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Balance with 215,000 BTC, what is this one about? on: July 20, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Thanks, now I also know that http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100 is outdated.
The address is not included in the list, who knows how many more.
327  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: July 20, 2015, 01:15:51 PM
Don't be too greedy and trying to manipulate the price OP

Meh, no interest in crap like that. The only bitcoins I ever got were a few back when you could mine profitably with GPUs, and a few more in exchange for services. Never bought any with real money and don't plan to. What I am interested in is if anyone serious still sees a future in bitcoin, and if so, what they're reasons might be. That's why I started this thread.

Grin haha lol. Made my day. Thanks
328  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2015, 04:31:05 PM
Go to another bank.

I already did.
329  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2015, 04:24:40 PM
A major dutch bank ING just "banned" bitcoin.
They don't let you buy them unless you call a special number. They will then see if they let you.
Lol, first RaboBank and now ING.
I moved to ABN from rabobank because of it.

These are the tweets:
enkele risico's zijn het gebrek aan toezicht op de bitcoin door een centrale bank, de hoge koersvolatiliteit en het 1/4
risico op fraude en gebruik voor illegale doeleinden van de bitcoin, als gevolg van de anonimiteit van het gebruik ervan. 2/4
mocht je toch bitcoins willen aankopen, dan kun je telefonisch contact met ons opnemen, via 020 22 888 88. 3/4
we beoordelen dan of de transactie alsnog uitgevoerd kan worden. ^Franke 4/4

Risks are lack of supervision on Bitcoin by a central bank (Grin), high volatility and the risk of fraud and illegal purposes due to the anonymity of it.
If you really want to buy bitcoin call us and laugh us in the face we will judge if we permit the transaction.

330  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2015, 03:48:17 PM
going under 200$ Shocked Cheesy Grin

Need to go under 280 first Smiley

EDIT: let's see if the ask walls are real.

Well it just went under 277.12$ - 2.36% from past 14 hours i think. This is a bad thing what is happening ?

The same thing behind every BTC move starts with "Ch", and ends with "na", oh and there's an "i" somewhere in there

Well i am trying to combine these letters, is it China?
We know china is a big country but their affects is very high

China, of course.

I figured he must be a moron because there is no "i" in "Choo choo motherfucker"
331  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2015, 12:03:34 PM
It appears that there is always some issue when btc starts a bull run. This time we have the blockchain spam issue which seems to be causing a lot of grief. This cannot be a co-incidence that bitcoin always runs into issues just when it is about to break into a bull run. I am sure there is someone or some organisation and govt. agencies who are behind these spam attacks and every other attack that has happened to BTC ever since it came out. This just goes to show that they are bothered by the rise of crypto and will try anything to kill crypto in nascent stages. BTC has shown its resilience to these attaks so far, but how long can it hold out is the question.

*tinfoil hat on*

bitcoin and crypto represents a distinct threat to the global nwo police state corporate fascism military industrial complex whatever you want to call it. i think many of us here understand this on some level. btc and other crypto is basically money that (we think?) did not come from governments/banks and they cannot easily control or contain. perhaps most fundamentally we the powerless are not supposed to be able to evade and escape from governments/banks or even dare think to do so. the best that can be done is to expend resources financial, technical, media, political, legal to attempt to hold it back long enough that it can either be consumed and controlled by the state/bank power structures or that it is defeated on a technical level or that it implodes upon itself in financial terms ie extreme loss of value and major loss of users and merchants. if btc reaches (it probably hasn't yet) a critical mass of growth in adoption it could upend and decimate other stores of wealth specifically government backed fiat currencies. i could see a hypothetical global cryptographic backed democratic direct government of some sort being adopted, in concert with the rise of cryptocurrency and decimation of existing fiat wealth, and governments may fall, perhaps to be replaced by some type of resource management system governed by the will of all citizens of earth. whether this would instigate global war and force all countries to adopt dictatorial regimes, lead to complete anarchy and breakdown of society, or herald a new era of human freedom and global peace is the question.

or it could just be intentional manipulation/interference with the btc system by tech savvy whales for solely greed based reasons.

Hear hear. +1
Nice tile newbie
332  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2015, 08:13:24 PM




No offense, but does anyone ever view these pictures?
333  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2015, 12:26:46 PM

You bet those mofos are stacked to the max with bitcoin.
Closing banks for a month makes sure that they end up with profit.
They aren't there for us.
They are also greedy private motherfuckers, just like we are.
334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 15, 2015, 09:12:51 AM
The thing is Monero is owned by people who do not really care to sell unless they want to play a little pinball game like me.  Grin

Personally I am not interested in selling any coins in 1 digit and even two digits I will think carefully if I start implementing SSS. When Monero is traded in hundreds, I might make a SSS plan from there. Knowing my standard of living and willingness for fancy life, I think I will not need that many coins to sell. I could easily live happily in a farm in nowhere growing my own food.

But dude, why the fuck do you need all the wealth of the world when you only have a farm and grow your own food? Smiley
You're planning to hire people to grow your food and clean your farm?
335  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2015, 08:44:27 PM

You are obviusly not stupid, and yes, the value is defined not by the beer in itself, but individuals, considering it, all persons are different, so there is no yardstick, it is personal, psychological, individual. Every price you see, is the value from individuals preferring, with the help of their total life experience and individual needs, one thing over another. Is this your problem, do you think that therefore, we can not group value into two distinct types, intrinsic and speculative?


Oh, we can have many groups of value. In fact, I would say that intrinsic and speculative would surely not be enough since, in my book, intrinsic value would be an empty set. Speculative is a subset of extrinsic value since one might value something not merely because one hopes to exchange it for increased value/price later.

Now, the intrinsic properties of gold might have subjective value in the common sphere. It is shiny, resists corrosion, easily malleable, heavy (dense), all that jazz. But all those are location, time and context dependent.

At this stage, I think we both see where the other is coming from so there's little point beating it to death and there are many better places to read about the arguments. Austrian economics just tends to reject the idea of intrinsic value.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_theory_of_value
For me there's only one intrinsic value and that's energy.
Everything else is derived from it.
336  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2015, 03:40:14 PM
wow go to $300 soon ...
How long does it take for a SEPA transfer to BTC-E to be credited to the account? thanks
They say up to 7 days, which is intentionally vague. I know SEPA is pretty much one business day, but not sure whether they sit on it before crediting the account.

Because when it's a huge pile of cash they can frontrun it.

well, at least that's what I would do...
337  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2015, 03:25:20 PM


ccmf ?

That skyline looks like a chart.
Where is it from?
338  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2015, 02:45:03 PM
Aaaannnnndddd it's gone.

He moved it to litecoin.
365 BTC wall
339  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2015, 01:52:17 PM
I think we jumped over $300 just because so many people wanted it.

We need to cross it with some more stability behind it like we are building now.

You are right. Many people bought into the euro is going to crash.
Well, of course it will happen. But not just now.
340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 14, 2015, 10:03:56 AM
The pyramid structure is the only way something can be made valuable in general.
Therefore I am fascinated on pyramid schemes (not scams but honest pyramid schemes).
Pyramid structure means, there is a limited amount of assets and the value of the owner's slice increase when more people come in.
Let's consider gold bullion as an example: there is limited amount of gold in existence. When you have a "significiant slice" of world's gold supply (it is not that large since gold in existence is surprisingly scarce), you want others to buy also gold driving the purchasing power of your gold higher and thus you are climbimg in the pyramid to higher levels.
The same analogy applies to stocks, real estates, silver, pink diamonds, old cars, fiat money, you name it - anything valuable.

You are right, but his post reads like a "I don't give a shit about monero but only want to get people join this pyramid so I can cash out and ride a pink elephant."
Don't understand me wrong, I also want to ride a pink elephant but I want to ride it sooner than him.
He doesn't really invite me to join his pyramid by his post, it reads like a scam.

I'm not scared away by one person though.
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