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561  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] [NEW RATES] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: January 31, 2015, 03:15:21 PM
First of all, I never expect to have all my posts accepted.
There is no rule which says single image posts are not allowed.

Some links you quote contains a single image which I made to point out to other people points in the trend where we currently are.
95% or more of the pictures I post are made by myself.
Some are only ment to be funny (and could be rejected, I kind of understand, but if they are on topic, why?), some are trend forecasts of which I am right once in a while.
It happens a lot in that thread that people give trend forecasts with or without pictures.
Some people even thank me for that.
You cannot call that a low quality post. A correct forecast in a speculation thread is a high quality post, whether it is text or image doesn't matter, the rules don't require text.
I can go and discuss all the quoted links but we will probably end up in an endless discussion so first I want to point another very important issue.

It is a measurable rule in the OP where you say: "Do not post the majority of your posts in a few days, post consistently. Those who post the majority of their posts in a few days then stop posting will be denied payment."

This rule was greatly breached by number 1 poster LOBSTER. He posted 466 posts in 6 days  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
He started at 28 December 2014 and made NO posts after 04 January 2015

But he still was paid for almost all, and also got the 0,1 btc extra. Please explain.

You can say anything about my posts, and it's all personal judgement (I don't want to go there yet), but you cannot say this fits into the rules. it just cannot.
Therefor I really feel the rules are NOT followed and are different from person to person.
This is unacceptable. Angry

I don't like to talk about other people but I just want to point out the that rules are taken with a grain of salt.  Undecided

This feeling became even stronger when you say two different things just right after each other  Undecided:

Thus, all posts made in the wall observer thread will not be counted from now.

The wall observer thread will still be allowed however I will be keeping an extremely close eye on all posts made there.

So what is the rule? Allowed or not allowed?  Huh

I want to do this according the rules, but the rules are changed during the game and that is unfair to say the least.





I'm still butthurt
562  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] [NEW RATES] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: January 31, 2015, 10:31:45 AM
Thus, all posts made in the wall observer thread will not be counted from now.

You might want to update your OP with this rule if you plan on enforcing it.

I have gone through this person's post history and he does seem to like to post in the speculation subforum a lot, however there is nothing wrong with that and people who are reading the speculation section are likely going to want to trade bitcoin which is a service that bit-x offers.

...

Unless you can point to 170 of his posts in the last month that were either in signature campaign, off topic, giveaway threads, were not in english or were not constructive then you owe him additional payment for his posts.

If you do not pay him then he would have a valid scam accusation against you and it would make both you and bit-x look very bad

Thanks for the support, I did not think about the reputation dispute before.
The longer I think of it, the more I feel scammed.
I give OP some time to sort this out before I give bad reputation feedback.

Wall observer thread is the most read thread of the forum and gives a very big exposure to the signatures.
It was not mentioned in the rules before.
I would like to add that I also probably had reached top ten poster status which means and additional 0,1 bonus.

I again would like to point out that at least one participant in this campaign made his 400+ posts in the first week and (almost) none thereafter which IS actually a rule in the OP which was breached without consequences.

Just for reference I post the rules from the original post.

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Rules:
Payment is made monthly (please allow 48 hours for payment).

Please use the highest level of formatting (color, size, format) that your membership level allows to be applicable for the rates.
50 qualifying posts needed for payout.
This signature is the only thing permitted in the designated space.
All users who receive valid negative trust and/or are banned during the course of the campaign will be denied payment. (If you are negatively trusted contact me and I will let you know if you will be accepted, if you have valid negative trust posts in the marketplace section won't count)
The appropriate signature must be worn at all times, failure to do so will result in denial of payment.
Payment address may not be changed.
In case of an activity change, you will be paid at your new membership level (everyone has been updated).
Do not edit the enrollment post (I have made an exception for some users, only edits within an hour or two accepted).
Do not post the majority of your posts in a few days, post consistently. Those who post the majority of their posts in a few days then stop posting will be denied payment.

Please do try to post in bitcoin discussion and beginners & help!

Qualifying Posts (all posts must abide by the following to be counted):
Must be made with the appropriate signature.
Posts made in this thread or any other signature campaign thread do not count.
Posts in the off-topic board do not count.
Posts in giveaways and/or placing bets will not count.
Must be in English (feel free to still post in your language! They just won't be paid).
Must be constructive to the thread posted in.

563  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] [NEW RATES] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: January 31, 2015, 06:54:17 AM
Some other thing, it is probably a coincidence that all rejected post counts are a multiple of 5, or round numbers like mine....

170
115
50
35
30
25
25
15
15
4
4

Yes I feel butthurt like a goatse.

At least I would expect to see a lot of 1 rejected posts...

I briefly went through all members post history for the month. Those with possibly 1 or 2 weren't included to make matter easier (plus there was already a withdrawal fee on the site).

Fair enough

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Your posting was quite terrible at parts (very empty speculation posts in the wall observer thread).

You know where that thread is located right?
In the speculation sub forum. Where we speculate and often disagree with each other.

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Thus, all posts made in the wall observer thread will not be counted from now.

It is called changing the rules during the game. I didn't read anything about a rule on the speculation subforum.
Besides, what was done with lobster's posts in that thread? What was done with the fact that he turbo posted 400+ post in one week and none thereafter?


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For this month, post with a bit for added value and I won't reject as many.

Usually I like special treatment, now it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I wonder what rule will be invented next time to reduce someones post count...

Don't get me wrong. I did not expect to get all my posts accepted, but 170  rejected?  Shocked Come on.

Also mention wall observer thread in your main post of this thread so others won't be butthurt like me.
564  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] [NEW RATES] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: January 30, 2015, 10:41:00 PM
Some other thing, it is probably a coincidence that all rejected post counts are a multiple of 5, or round numbers like mine....

170
115
50
35
30
25
25
15
15
4
4

Yes I feel butthurt like a goatse.

At least I would expect to see a lot of 1 rejected posts...
565  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] [NEW RATES] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: January 30, 2015, 10:27:02 PM
Well, I only got paid for less than HALF of my posts.
I don't know about LOBSTER, but he did made 400+ posts in the FIRS WEEK and did not post after that.
If you viewed the post very carfully I don't care, I hope it's done fair.

It's ridiculous, LOBSTER was rejected 50 posts while only posting in the first week! None after that. I thought you had to post consistently....
I agree I posted a lot of funny images and just chat talk, but I was on topic.

Very disappointing.
566  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 06:00:38 PM
BeanieTalk.org - Now with cosmos gifs. BULLISH! - ANNOUNCEMENT - Website is online again. Double BULLISH! If you buy at the top and get dumped on, please sue us.
hahahahahahahah

http://beanietalk.org/

Rofl!

Please be sure to add the Rick Rolled thing to the source  Lips sealed  Kiss


Done

LOL

BeanieTalk.org

All done in a hurry, though. Soon as i get more time, i will work on releasing something.

That's why I happy to have ignored nobody.
This is funny as hell! Thanks Grin
567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 03:00:13 PM
But the question is, do we break the previous bottom of 166 in a few weeks?
I think we might, but not much.
It will also be the last <200 bottom of 2015 and beyond.
568  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 11:22:21 AM

Yes, but who decides what is trolling? It is a personal choice imho.
Let me make my own choice, you can do yours.

So, in short, the ignore button is enough.


The talking-his-book part-time troll is fighting for free speech. Gave me a good laugh.

Good! Making people to laugh is one of my main targets in life.
I'm glad I succeeded, again.

 Kiss
569  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 10:55:16 AM

Of course it's cool, that's what it's all about, freedom of speech.
If you don't like it, there is a feature called 'ignore button', use it.


I rather have an indicator of how many people are on somebodys ignore list.
Then I know who not to give too much attention to...

I get what you are saying, all up for freedom of speech.. But trolling is not communication imo.. It is something else.

Yes, but who decides what is trolling? It is a personal choice imho.
Let me make my own choice, you can do yours.

So, in short, the ignore button is enough.
570  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 09:44:41 AM
Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.

10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too.

It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute.

I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh).

These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon.

In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution.
I knew it.

Hmm...Censorship

I think marcus is right...  

But It is not censorship the thread/forum needs but reasoned moderating, I like a joke as much as the next guy, but...... there is the obvious is obvious trolling, aggressive, insult hurling trolling, constant repetitive trolling. That has got little to do with freedom of speech, that is more like verbal abuse

Buy a new mouse and click on ignore if the link doesn't work for you.
Don't decide for me what is trolling or abusive.

1 exception, scammers who deliberately con you from bitcoins. You should put them in jail or shoot them, but that's another discussion.

I do not believe I was trying to decide anything for you.

You do, because you want moderation on this forum to remove the obvious trolling and words you don't like.

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Just expressing my opinion, hope that's cool.

Of course it's cool, that's what it's all about, freedom of speech.
If you don't like it, there is a feature called 'ignore button', use it.


I rather have an indicator of how many people are on somebodys ignore list.
Then I know who not to give too much attention to...
571  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 09:35:59 AM
Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.

10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too.

It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute.

I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh).

These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon.

In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution.
I knew it.

Hmm...Censorship

I think marcus is right...  

But It is not censorship the thread/forum needs but reasoned moderating, I like a joke as much as the next guy, but...... there is the obvious is obvious trolling, aggressive, insult hurling trolling, constant repetitive trolling. That has got little to do with freedom of speech, that is more like verbal abuse

Buy a new mouse and click on ignore if the link doesn't work for you.
Don't decide for me what is trolling or abusive.

1 exception, scammers who deliberately con you from bitcoins. You should put them in jail or shoot them, but that's another discussion.
572  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 07:12:27 AM
Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.

10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too.

It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute.

I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh).

These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon.

In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution.
I knew it.
573  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2015, 09:39:07 PM
I am declaring the billyjoeallen pump officially on. After my initial buy of $2,000 worth today, I will buy a minimum of 1 BTC per day for the next 100 days regardless of price going up or downor until the shorts get squeezed whichever comes first.

I like it when your bullish.  Grin

"I don't care about the busts. I am riding this pig wherever it takes me. If it tanks, I'll have a helluva story to tell. I'm sick of half measures. I'm swinging for the fences and If I strike out, so be it.  I won't be some mediocre drone living a life of quiet desperation. I believe in bitcoin and I'm going for broke, knowing the risks."

Oh, man. I feel the same.
In the past I sometimes went to the casino with only an embarrassing story afterwards.
But bitcoin,.. wow. How could you ever feel embarrassed Grin

Never went to a casino afterwards... already profit!
574  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: January 29, 2015, 08:22:59 PM

Chartbuddy, since you're already expanding your wall overview, could you also add BTC-e?
575  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is it possible for bitcoin to live on another network? on: January 29, 2015, 08:06:45 PM
assuming that you could get the radio waves through the sun

I think the moments of an earth sun mars alignment are very very very rare and that they could be easily overcome by a using a proxy satellite in a delayed earth orbit around the sun. Just following earth orbit a few days/weeks/months behind. Or using another planet as a reflector to get the signal on mars (extra latency of course)
Offtopic, http://www.solarsystemscope.com/ is a nice website where you can easily see all planet orbits and drag them around.


576  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin v0.10's new libsecp256k1 safe & without mathematical backdoors? on: January 29, 2015, 07:52:58 PM
99,9% of the people already have to believe every other piece of code of bitcoin because they (me too) lack the skills to review it themselves.
This, in my opinion, is one of the biggest hurdles for bitcoin technology to overcome.
But they don't have to believe _me_, even if they can't review it themselves they can choose anyone else who has (or pay someone to, or learn...).

Of course it's not about you personally, we all know you are highly credible  Roll Eyes Wink

So in short it comes to the question if people want to have a free choice? (to find/pay/trust/learn the skills to review the code)
I'm sorry to go philosophical and might get marked as a troll but your simple one-liner made me think about this. (thanks for that, food for weeks! Wink )



577  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is it possible for bitcoin to live on another network? on: January 29, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
I guess the point is as long as one node is synced via normal means a private network could be up to date.  
Yes, but only if everybody on the private network is absolutely sure that only that node is able to communicate with the largest network.
If one of the other nodes could communicate with the largest network he could seriously f*ck up your private network I could imagine.

Yeah you'd need to trust the person running the connection.  I'd guess in the case of Mars you'd need to trust them in any case as it's likely the same person/organisation supplying oxygen, food etc. Smiley

Indeed, that was one of the reasons why I chose that example and was talking about the trust factor.
578  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2015, 02:40:15 PM
What is this 10k bidwall flashing in and out on bitfinex?
Where is chartbuddy? I want to see if it's there as well.
579  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is it possible for bitcoin to live on another network? on: January 29, 2015, 01:12:53 PM
I guess the point is as long as one node is synced via normal means a private network could be up to date.  

Yes, but only if everybody on the private network is absolutely sure that only that node is able to communicate with the largest network.
If one of the other nodes could communicate with the largest network he could seriously f*ck up your private network I could imagine.

580  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2015, 12:52:12 PM
If you folks have any sense you'd pull all your coins off the exchanges 'cos someones running fractional reserve, over 10k dumped and no movement on days destroyed and only a couple of k's worth of dollar swaps pulled. No excuse for lack of transparency on exchanges, if others can run with transparency and user controlled wallets then what do they have to hide? If you're not asking that you're irresponsible with your coins and deserve to lose them. I'd suggest stopping trading on the first of every month and pulling coins to drive out the bad actors.
Excatly, don't trade, just hodl.

They will force btc down while push the btc/altcoin up.

When ready to move btc up theb btc/altcoin will drop.

They are using ltc. So do not sell btc for ltc. any other shitcoin

There fixed it.



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