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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER
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on: January 10, 2018, 12:15:34 AM
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So many blatant salty fomo induced fud posts.  (it's a good sign) I'm quite sure the irregularity in calculations was due to CMC and not someone on the ZERO dev team who have been very transparent and forthcoming in clarifying the circulating supply. lol yes this has been discussed. there was an honest mistake on the block explorer that resulted in this spammy troll reporting to coinmarketcap some "update" .. and since cmc does not check the source of their update requests, they just checked the block explorer which had the glitch, then they update the number. The request has been placed to change it back but CMC is slow. there is no deception, only transparency. jeez now I am being redundant but this troll ("unimaginable") has posted the same post so many times, that people may have forgot. there was an honest mistake and it has been fixed, we are just waiting for cmc to change it back. meanwhile, the accurate information is publicly available, at the block explorer. This is no big mystery. The only thing mysterious is how long will the salty troll keep on with the same redundant loop!? rofl.. not that it needs mention, but, it's simple multiplication, 7200 x days since ~02/2017 |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER
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on: January 07, 2018, 04:33:24 PM
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Hello Folks,
I would like to say something to Tearo for a moment, he is and was never a scammer
I think it's pretty unfair
Stefano, Tearo, and myself worked for months free of charge
get no help
and only seen users who have complained that their Zero coins are not rising in value
At some point demotivates something like that
and as you could see
is something positive happened, a stroke of luck
About coins,
Tearo meant mine a week ago
370 coins paid back.
He is the same with me
trustworthy as before
If it were not for him, the project would never have gotten rolling.
So shut up
Most of us here do not work unequal, just the loudest scream.
I think everyone will get their coins back
but you should already discuss this with tearo and not here in public
AMEN
Agreed, I cannot comment on what I do not know, however I do know Tearo (and a few others) took initiative and put in a lot of work. I've been away for the past few weeks as the coin hibernated, So, I'm out of the loop on current events, but I was around since the beginning, he's a stand-up guy and he wouldn't sell his work, his name or his peer's for a couple of coins. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - fork of Zcash with harder mining params
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on: August 25, 2017, 10:51:35 PM
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It could even be that Zero was introduced as an alternative for Zcash, if Zcash does not bring the success that at least Zero successfully starts.
Since this is not the case, it can be that the developer has even invested money in Zcash and thus it makes little sense to promote Zero further.
I personally think about boycotting Zero, maybe you hear something from the developer
Seems strange, betting against his/her/their own project. And also this coin launched well after Zcash, so I don't think this is the case at all. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - fork of Zcash with harder mining params
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on: August 09, 2017, 07:17:17 PM
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Again, I'm going to mention Ethereum and Metropolis, and reiterate that there are a lot of unknowns, but most of the development can be followed. it seems to be approaching completion, maybe a month away, maybe longer. They never gave a fixed release date but August was suggested as a rough estimate earlier this year. If they are behind schedule, all the better it means they are being meticulous. https://z.cash/blog/project-alchemy.htmlhttps://forum.z.cash/t/cross-chain-atomic-transactions-project-alchemy-stellar/13524https://blog.ethereum.org/2017/07/08/roundup_q2/(the audio is a bit distorted, video is long, but, it's pretty complete.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8zsPf4FzO4I believe the Zen chain is currently implementing something similar. Still, what remains is that Zero has a faster block time, and I believe it can handle more transactions per block, all the other extras are a nice touch to in this inter-chain future. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: AMD Vega frontier released!
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on: August 07, 2017, 12:04:57 AM
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Vega is a pretty much Fiji meets 14nm, with some improvements. Higher core clock by 60%, faster memory clock by 100%, but half the bus width. I reckon we would have to hit about 50mh/s+ before exhausting the 512 bit memory bus, so unless Vega can hit over 100mh/s (which i doubt) it's going to suffer from poor optimization, and once that's cleared up, it should fetch low 50s at a conservative estimate based on what it's currently doing now to maybe low 70s based on specs, and even higher in pure theoretics regarding how the memory is utilized which might be a hard NO. it should be very resilient to DAG changes, and the gaming cards will be 400-500 USD, 225W, single slot, and according to AMD, even faster, better etc. not a horrible deal. I feel like it should do pretty well in memory hard algorithms where bus or bandwidth are key, like Zcash, Zero(N=192, K=7 ) or Zcoin
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - fork of Zcash with harder mining params
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on: July 29, 2017, 01:48:41 AM
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Hey,
can someone explain to me the appeal of zero vs its father zcash?
i understand it has harder mining parameters but what's the motivation to use it? is there any technology in the making that separates it excluding the harder mining.
thanks
p.s: The slack invite link is broken
Well, It is outlined on the first post by the dev, calling it simply "harder mining parameters" is a bit of a misnomer since the change in parameters of the algo is the source of the difficulty being higher, being more reliant on memory among other reasons. the modification in the parameters have these intended effects, as stated in the dev's original post: "-higher time complexity (google this) about 16 times* -higher memory requirements about 16 times* -faster block verifications 4x -smaller solutions 400 bytes instead of 1344 bytes are inserted in every block" And that is just a brief summary. In my opinion, the faster verification and smaller solutions would make it ideal in an integrated ecosystem (as well as just advantageous on it's own). like ones soon to be released or those to come such as what Ethereum is planning. All theoretical of course, someone else certainly has a more refined, detailed and technical understanding than I do. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - fork of Zcash with harder mining params
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on: July 27, 2017, 09:11:19 PM
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The chart still looks very good and it almost seams like the dev is deliberately trying to keep the price as low as possible for the time being. This is a longer term play in my book. Looking forward to seeing what the next year will bring to Zero.
Well I heard that Zcash is undervalued at the moment, so what is Zero now? If we take that Zero is much harder to mine so each Zero should be valued more than ZEC, if I am wrong than correct me. you are correct, smaller circulating supply, harder to mine, advantageous modifications to the coin especially in the face of metropolis, etc. it just needs to be recognized and picked up. keep in mind Zcash had a lot of pre-release hype and funding. So, yes Zero is significantly undervalued, but, it needs some polishing until it will be adopted in a more mainstream capacity. Haha yes you said that, Zcash had created hype and users are trying to get back what thay lost the first 3 days. Zero is better and it will prove it. Times asked in the round, which value you the zero ? i think 10-20 € regards Well, it all depends on how the road goes. I think 10-20 in the initial phase, it's something that happens often when a coin is successful, Ethereum spent months under it's ICO value and radically changed the crypto world, and the price hit that ~12 $ mark and it was a rougher work in progress and hit an all time high of nearly 400 from an all time low of about 7 cents. Zero is Zero, and nobody has a crystal ball. I would say once the wallet rolls out, maybe another exchange listing, a bit of momentum and it will be at that 15€ area. Depending on how the rest of the market goes, bitcoin's hardfork and inadequacies being addressed. Ethereum's new releases, big changes are always happening in crypto and in the chaos is a lot of opportunity for this project. just an opinion of course the best advice is to get a good lay of the land and read the market news. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - fork of Zcash with harder mining params
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on: July 27, 2017, 06:47:59 PM
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The chart still looks very good and it almost seams like the dev is deliberately trying to keep the price as low as possible for the time being. This is a longer term play in my book. Looking forward to seeing what the next year will bring to Zero.
Well I heard that Zcash is undervalued at the moment, so what is Zero now? If we take that Zero is much harder to mine so each Zero should be valued more than ZEC, if I am wrong than correct me. you are correct, smaller circulating supply, harder to mine, advantageous modifications to the coin especially in the face of metropolis, etc. it just needs to be recognized and picked up. keep in mind Zcash had a lot of pre-release hype and funding. So, yes Zero is significantly undervalued, but, it needs some polishing until it will be adopted in a more mainstream capacity. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - fork of Zcash with harder mining params
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on: July 24, 2017, 11:28:06 PM
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Yes we are waiting for dev to show here and tell us about some progress. Zero can be big if they taky good care of it, by the way the comunity can help a lot.
agreed, I'm keeping a close eye on Ethereum's metropolis release, well not as close as I should be considering what this means for zk-snark. if it will be an internal function, bridged exclusively to Zcash or for any and all forks. Zero would excel in this niche. I'm sure I've said this before in a previous post but it goes without saying the prospects are very nice, which is why I think a little sign of life would be very welcome. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Optiminer/Zero v1.2.0 (AMD+NVIDIA GPU) Linux+Windows
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on: July 18, 2017, 06:25:39 PM
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Hello friends, there is only one possible way, under Windows is the Zero Miner not really suitable, I have many days to healthy to solve the problem,
A) Ubuntu Linux 16.04
B) Nvidia driver
C) no more problems
On Windows, it seems to be a driver problem because the virtual memory is practically useless.
best regards
Good to know, I'm on Radeon/Windows and she's pretty stable, only if i start messing with settings opening and closing the miner multiple times do i get a hangup. Pagefile is important though, as is RAM to a lesser extent. Usually you want to keep pagefile to 1.5 times your RAM at most, and people may have presets limiting the amount of HD space it will use which will crash the miner on startup if you don't have enough allocated. the 1.5 number is just rule of thumb, you can go way beyond that but it comes at a cost of stability, and either way the more pagefile you use say ~32gb, the more you bottleneck your data speeds when doing anything else should you also use it for browsing/entertainment. also having a lot of pagefile will reduce it's lifespan by a bit. all in all having too little = bad. having more than enough = it just works normally. This is why I recommend having a separate drive handle the pagefile only if you can help it, but ultimately not necessary and in a healthy rig with a healthy amount of ram and a modern HDD, you shouldn't notice a difference. you could always do the USB file transfer test too and see how much it slows down when the miner is running. and also, don't use an SSD for pagefile, maybe for video games and normal computer stuff it's okay but when you're taxing it with ~30gb and it will not last very long. On the other hand I know Linux handles swapfile much more nicely, but i still wouldn't use that amount on an SSD. You agree 100%, but under windows 10 Prof. 64 had the increase of the virtual memory no effect, Also retrofit the physical memory Or moving the pagefile.sys to an empty HDD was useless Only the change to Linux brought success. Shit WINDUMB :-) regards, lokko Ha Ha yeah, well, i guess its Nvidia then, i'm aware it takes up much more CPU power for instance. My guess is that the windows geforce drivers aren't playing nice with the internal bus NB/SB. Maybe motherboard BIOS? I don't have an Nvidia rig to test it out though, but I would recommend a "newer" paging Hard drive that was designed after a time workstations only had 4gb of ram. maybe playing with the sector size could be better for stability and/or even performance in the form of consistency, but again in the wild world of pagefile, everything depends. *EDIT* tested different cluster sizes, got strange results, but I only have a 512 physical to play with (probably pushing it) and don't feel like formatting my 4kb main drive. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Optiminer/Zero v1.2.0 (AMD+NVIDIA GPU) Linux+Windows
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on: July 18, 2017, 04:27:48 PM
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Hello friends, there is only one possible way, under Windows is the Zero Miner not really suitable, I have many days to healthy to solve the problem,
A) Ubuntu Linux 16.04
B) Nvidia driver
C) no more problems
On Windows, it seems to be a driver problem because the virtual memory is practically useless.
best regards
Good to know, I'm on Radeon/Windows and she's pretty stable, only if i start messing with settings opening and closing the miner multiple times do i get a hangup. Pagefile is important though, as is RAM to a lesser extent. Usually you want to keep pagefile to 1.5 times your RAM at most, and people may have presets limiting the amount of HD space it will use which will crash the miner on startup if you don't have enough allocated. the 1.5 number is just rule of thumb, you can go way beyond that but it comes at a cost of stability, and either way the more pagefile you use say ~32gb, the more you bottleneck your data speeds when doing anything else should you also use it for browsing/entertainment. also having a lot of pagefile will reduce it's lifespan by a bit. all in all having too little = bad. having more than enough = it just works normally. This is why I recommend having a separate drive handle the pagefile only if you can help it, but ultimately not necessary and in a healthy rig with a healthy amount of ram and a modern HDD, you shouldn't notice a difference. you could always do the USB file transfer test too and see how much it slows down when the miner is running. and also, don't use an SSD for pagefile, maybe for video games and normal computer stuff it's okay but when you're taxing it with ~30gb and it will not last very long. On the other hand I know Linux handles swapfile much more nicely, but i still wouldn't use that amount on an SSD. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - fork of Zcash with harder mining params
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on: July 14, 2017, 07:07:04 PM
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also, triple mining might take up more system resources, especially when it comes to pagefile, I wouldn't recommend mining on a hard drive that is being used for STORJ.
10k rpm does nothing as far as performance, but then again my 10k only has 512kb boot sector and like 16mb cache. I would have thought the sequential speeds would give it
an edge, since you wouldn't want to use an SSD for something like this unless you plan on buying a new one in a month. so the lack of an increase in performance may not be because 10k isn't better, but just the secondary specs fall behind a bit, still helps with system stability and takes the load off my main drive so I can still use my PC for just about anything so long as I disable a GPU in the miner, with no stutters or crashes.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - fork of Zcash with harder mining params
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on: July 14, 2017, 03:02:18 PM
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I would like to ask if is someone using the new RX5xx cards and what are the hashing rates.
I'm running (5) 480s and (1) 580 and getting around 40 s/s. The 580 isn't much better than the 480 as it's around 6 s/s. I will note 2 of my 480s are 4GB cards, so I'm forced to run the 4GB miner program not the 8gb. On another note, has anyone gotten the Windows wallet to work? I'm having some difficulty getting it up and running both CLI and GUI.. I am thinking about buy only the 8gb version. I hope there will be windows wallet soon. I would like to have some coins at my wallet and not only at pool/exchange. In case you're interested GPU5 is the 580 which is strapped and overclocked. The rig does around 182 MH/s on Ethash algo. The hashrate here has been jumping all over the place. http://imgur.com/a/RO4Rtwith those hashrates I would recommend only running on 8gb cards, unless you can move your 4gb models to another rig. you should get over 36 with 4 cards and it will cost less in electricity, etc. I think you might be able to launch a second instance for the 4gb cards but that may take up more system resources, simply use the -i and -d flags to list your devices so that you dont use all of them in the same miner. Yes that is true, I was playing around with both 8gb and 4gb models and if you run both the miners at once it slows both hash rates. So it is better to have two rigs, one 8gb and second 4gb. Can you elaborate on specifying devices? I was trying "-d 0124" -"-d 0,1,2,4" none of which worked.. Thanks! Yeah, I think it goes like -i 1 - i 1 -i 1 (etc.) then to list the devices individually like -d 0 -d 1 -d 2 and so on. the -i is for intesity, only 1 seems to work and the miner will automatically detect it, but, i feel like i had stability issues without it. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - fork of Zcash with harder mining params
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on: July 14, 2017, 05:10:35 AM
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I would like to ask if is someone using the new RX5xx cards and what are the hashing rates.
I'm running (5) 480s and (1) 580 and getting around 40 s/s. The 580 isn't much better than the 480 as it's around 6 s/s. I will note 2 of my 480s are 4GB cards, so I'm forced to run the 4GB miner program not the 8gb. On another note, has anyone gotten the Windows wallet to work? I'm having some difficulty getting it up and running both CLI and GUI.. I am thinking about buy only the 8gb version. I hope there will be windows wallet soon. I would like to have some coins at my wallet and not only at pool/exchange. In case you're interested GPU5 is the 580 which is strapped and overclocked. The rig does around 182 MH/s on Ethash algo. The hashrate here has been jumping all over the place. http://imgur.com/a/RO4Rtwith those hashrates I would recommend only running on 8gb cards, unless you can move your 4gb models to another rig. you should get over 36 with 4 cards and it will cost less in electricity, etc. I think you might be able to launch a second instance for the 4gb cards but that may take up more system resources, simply use the -i and -d flags to list your devices so that you dont use all of them in the same miner. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Optiminer/Zero v1.2.0 (AMD+NVIDIA GPU) Linux+Windows
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on: July 13, 2017, 12:41:49 AM
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Hey opti, there are still problems, I have now bought 2x8 GB of memory and use your Zero Miner with 2 X GTX 1080TI and have set 16 GB virtual memory, nevertheless your miner crashes as soon as I use 2 graphics cards jerks the miner.
Need your help
same problem here with 2x1080ti. Use 2 miner instances, one per card. Still high cpu usage ~60%, but has been stable for 3 days. win7, 8gb ram, 22gb page file, amd fx 4300 cpu. I think you can have it run on one instance, with the flags -i 1 -i 1 -d 0 -d 1. as for virtual memory, you may want to set it a bit higher, at 20gb just to give it breathing room, see if it helps. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - fork of Zcash with harder mining params
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on: July 04, 2017, 11:53:54 PM
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I like the Logo but, I can't help but associate it mentally with "not another Zcash fork".
I propose a "slashed zero" character. I could be wrong in thinking it's unique or free from copyright.
Sort of like this ø But a 0 instead of an o. or maybe even use ø.
This may cause problems though with coding, though I'm talking theoretically, it should be fine.
dev said in ANN thread Names and symbols:
Currency name: ZERO
not ZERO cash, not ZERO coin, just ZERO or ZERO currency or ZERO cryptocurrency
Currency unit: ZER
Currency symbol: Ƶ
Unicode: U+01B5
so wanted to respect his wishes but also he actually went to trouble of using unicode so had to be based loosely on that the 0 symbol with line through would denote a value of 0 ie zero so wanted to avoid that idea plus one of first posters on thread said sarcastically 0 sats worth this is what dev is currently using and submitted hopefully our new one is a lot better https://github.com/zerocurrency/zero/commit/61ff404f8f6150360cbfd14325431a62046f3c62not criticizing dev as he cant be great at everything! and he's a very good coder which is what we need I wouldn't be able to help build a brand and site around that with that colour scheme, we would stay low marketcap coin forever, however good the coding we are a fork of zcash so a loosely associated logo is helpful and imo is a very nice one also denoting value, memorable and strong on branding there is a twitter account that attacks zcash all time and they used the zcash logo and zooko was saying quite reasonably that's ok but don't use logo as copyrighted etc, even though they are technically decentralised and opensource but our logo is totally different and z with line other way and different colour, white, different gold style and no thick black outer ring will be eyecatching and memorable plus I will work on the text logo for ZERO have some ideas hopefully people will like I have submitted logo to cryptopia as is hurting zero not even having logo for gui wallet, block explorer site, future website, git and exchange people think maybe abandoned coin or with no dev not having logo on exchange cryptopia were great and I pointed them to thread and post and said they will add I will listen to feedback on text logo as maybe not everyone loves or want changes so will do in next few days to a week when have time as a site cant be built without plus will help people when posting on social media doing memes, ads etc, when promoting These are good points, I'm not opposed to the Ƶ Logo, it has more benefits than drawbacks, I just figured maybe something entirely different could be a possible option. But you are right, while the number 0 is good in the concept of privacy (Im assuming this is the idea behind the names ZeroCash and ZeroCoin) it does bring up negative sentiments associated with nothingness, emptiness, vacancy etc. |
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