This might sound strange but you are lucky that it was a scam and getting away uncaught with the goods is actually the worst possible outcome.

The worst thing that can happen when you card stuff is not that you get scammed or caught its that you get away with the goods. Because if you get away with it there is no doubt you'd keep doing it until you get caught.

What will happen then is everytime for the rest of your life that you have money problems, the first thing that'll pop into your head is carding. You will lose control and you'll eventually keep doing that and the only way you will stop is if you get caught and go to prison.

Don't do it kids.

How about this? we already do this for spammy-looking registrations.

Can we do the same for posting/logging/searching limits?

Wrong account?

First of all, its tf, he has emailed people and has posted GPG signed messages. I don't know what more proof you want but there is tons if you actually take the time to look.


Not true, parts of the inputs user database leaked. So other users here can confirm it and your email is already public.

My thoughts on this:

I of course don't think the owner should refund him the 0.2BTC, I do however feel that it should go to a charity. Tails gets most of its funding from Tor who get most of their funding from the gov, so I don't know why you would donate to Tails, they essentially have access to government funding and have plenty of cash.

Whereas projects like OpenBSD are struggling to pay the power bill: http://www.zdnet.com/electricity-bill-threatens-survival-of-openbsd-7000025276/
Maybe you could donate it to them instead.

Besides Tails sucks, they need to properly isolate the OS using virtualization, as it stands if you are rooted you can be identified very easily.

If you were actually scammed for 6BTC then of course you should keep it for yourself as reimbursement, but clearly you're lying when you say you lost 6BTC. If not then post your inputs email.

But of course you're just going to keep it, thats how a HYIP makes money, the owner keeps it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

Have a look at the sent feedback. As you can see, Vod is leaving a lot of feedback on suspected scammers BEFORE they scam.

The problem is that Vod has left so many people unsubstantiated negative feedback that his feedback isn't useful anymore. none of the feedback good or bad he has left are people who he has traded with in anyway. Anytime I see his feedback I have to ignore it and I know I'm not the only one who does that too.

He also never leaves negative trust to users who are trusted, even if they are confirmed to be scammers. For example, notice how Vod STILL has positive trust for TradeFortress. You might remember TF was also in the trustlist which is probably why Vod didn't tag him, because TF could have retaliated and ruined his feedback.

How do you guys feel about this practice? I think that trust feedback should be "mostly" reserved for reporting people who have actually scammed, not accusing unconfirmed ones. Perhaps a scam accusation thread is more suitable for that so that the accused has the ability to challenge the accusation.

I notice Vod is on the trustlist of BadBear and Tomatocage, I hope you guys reconsider and remove him. His feedback will still show up but it won't be "Trusted", I don't think you can call unsubstantiated accusations "Trusted Feedback" .

0.2 BTC?

Thats the EXACT SAME AMOUNT tradefortress was looking for.

obvious alt is obvious

Ok we admit it all. bit-investors.com was hacked a while ago and the hacker stole all the coins in our medium-temperature wallet.

We're all very upset about this which is why we never told anyone until now. We can't refund you your 0.2 BTC because it was sent to us after the hack happened. It is considered common procedure to "keep" all deposits made after a bitcoin site is hacked like with inputs/cl.

You have to remember that the real victim here is silvercane because not only was he robbed of the BTC he could've made from shutting down the HYIP but also the cost of the domain and time wasted clicking on ads to get free hosting and coding the site using nulled scripts.

HYIP have no warranties of any kind for coins stored there.

Do not bother asking us for your money, we totally didn't keep it all and are totally telling the truth, just take everything I say to be complete truth there is no need for us to give any kind of proof we are telling the truth. We'll probably file a police report or some shit in a few years.

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btc is in the past, now you have other coins

testing all the coins to see the best

just wanting to learn

how many did you had