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For ICO's projects starters Bitcointalk forum is just a free tool to raise Easy money, After they guarantee money possession in their pockets they trash away the Tool and ofc they do same thing for investors.
I hope investors will stop funding ICO's scam, check out CMC all ICOs tokens are between 70 - 90% under initial ico price and same will happen to IEO.
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I think all of you need to wakeup from your dreams, This asset is designed for scam since day 1, Forget about selling it, Only asset issuer or token owner who is selling to himself to make fake volume inorder to attract buyers or in other word Victims.
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yes, I understand that, but why don't the waves do something like exterminate it in dex so that people don't get caught up in team games?
Dex is Decentralized Exchange built on top of Waves Blockchain you can't eliminate specific token from there also the main goal of Waves Dex is Freedom of trading with no limit (Smart contract + NG speed tx + Security) but as you can see always Bad people take advantage of good technology to do bad stuff and make dirty money from it by deceiving and scamming traders. Already Waves team put a filter for scam assets (suspicious tokens) and spread awareness on their twitter and telegram channel, Before trading any token first you have to do a minimum research on it. |
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It will be the perfect PnD coin in all history of crypto, ofc to enrich mcafee only.
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there is no recent discussion from the team and I am very very difficult to sell so it might be very certain this is just fraud and just to enrich the team
Sure, Also this asset is an obvious Pyramid ponzi scheme and it will collapse sooner or later ,Scam X Scam. |
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Becareful !!! This thread is infested by newbies accounts just woke up from long hibernation (check their posts history) and the interesting thing is all of them praising the service offered by op (Red flag) which require minimum deposit of $100, why not $1000 or $10k!!!
What the f*ck? Do you think that everyone is sitting the whole day and spending it to type comments here? Normal people have better things to do. You should be proud of your Sr. Member rank lol Hey Newbie watch your language! Op started same topic in two different sections of forum and you posted in both threads  So tell me now Better things to do is bumping this thread by praising comments? ...........
Hi there. Thanks for sharing! Will you really give $30.000 as a reward? That's too much OMG... |
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Becareful !!! This thread is infested by newbies accounts just woke up from long hibernation (check their posts history) and the interesting thing is all of them praising the service offered by op (Red flag) which require minimum deposit of $100, why not $1000 or $10k!!!
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As soon as big players make enough profit from this coin then they will dump price to underground, Simple Pump N Dump.
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IEO is worse than ICO, check out IEO Bittrex Ocean Protocol, IEO Price 2350 sat, Open market trading 300 sat, instant loss.... why investors throw their money on random coins in exchange of whitepaper and some lies instead of buying bitcoin  |
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My advice to you is Stop giving your money to gambling websites because all of them are scam No exception.
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Wow! So many emotions  You sell your Surge at 0.05 Waves?  How you understand that? I know at least one address from top-10 and it is 100% not surge creator. If you think a little and check link that you post you can see: Surge creator make airdrop to all waves wallets with >1 waves balance - around 69k wallets for 145.3811933 surge. All get same amount. Fair airdrop. Most of wallets are abandoned and had no any exchange or transfer transactions last month before airdrop. Only 7465 wallets active. Around 4500 wallets SOLD SURGE and some of them also buy surge before selling (play game , make profit from Surge ). I am repeat it again - 4500 wallets SOLD Surge. Around 10000 surge was burned by some crazy people (they also come back when buy orders comes ) I think Surge creator put some code lines in script allow him to Buy and sell to a specific addresses so 5000 dıfferent orders wont work even if you are in the top first line sell orders.
You think? I think you must think more, because script of Surge can't be changed. I am understand that you not so good in smart assets creation (before surge i am also was not good in that , but Surge made me "advanced user" in that) and can't read the code , but if you don't understand something it is nothing bad to ask knowlege people about you misunderstanding. BUT not writing lie ("your thinking") about best smartasset ever. It is blockchain, programming , mathematics - not philosophy , that means everything clear about the code of smart asset. There is Surge code : {-#STDLIB_VERSION 1#-}
{-#CONTENT_TYPE EXPRESSION#-}
let startHeight = 1375557
let startPrice = 100000
let interval = (24 * 60)
let exp = ((100 * 60) * 1000)
let $match0 = tx
if (_isInstanceOf($match0, "ExchangeTransaction"))
then {
let e = $match0
let days = ((height - startHeight) / interval)
if (if (if ((e.price >= (startPrice * (1 + (days * days)))))
then !(isDefined(e.sellOrder.assetPair.priceAsset))
else false)
then (exp >= (e.sellOrder.expiration - e.sellOrder.timestamp))
else false)
then (exp >= (e.buyOrder.expiration - e.buyOrder.timestamp))
else false
}
else if (if (_isInstanceOf($match0, "SetAssetScriptTransaction"))
then true
else _isInstanceOf($match0, "BurnTransaction"))
then {
let tx = $match0
true
}
else false
As you can see - there no place for address list or something else from your lie. Anybody can check it https://wavesexplorer.com/tx/5b3UGNZXX5srkHUQWnEWEiaVtnNWmg5aLo5uZMdjWupH . You must choose "Decompiled" under the script Dude! I dont need your empty Blah Blah, what i see here is you are trying to make Surge asset look clean and yourself as well, We are not in 2014, Even Crypto Newbies nowadays are digging deep and doing due diligence before they buy any random token and your empty explanation wont change anything to push them buy this shady token and as i told you before if you believe Surge asset is not scam go ahead and buy that massive sell wall and make yourself happy when you sell it back  Still not give us explanation why only some wallets able to sell to each other to make fake volume. These four lines describe exactly how scammers think! Now Im sure that you are a sockpuppet account  I created the account in 2017 and in fact I do not interact very much in bitcointalk, I prefer to use the telegram ... I am not indicating any investment in Surge, I discovered the crypto coins in 2015 and since then I have started to invest in other projects that I know the fundamentals like Waves , Iota and Ethereum ... Surge is not a parameter for comparison to any of these because it has no use, I think only a Ponzi scheme. What made me post here is that I saw that they started the topic in bitcointalk and I decided to contribute only with the response of the group admin in Discord ... But I will no longer contribute to the topic.
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yes but you cant sell it iö very suspıcıous about it , there is lots and lots of volume but its so strange you cant sell it, evven ı trıed 5000 dıfferent order but non of them fılled, i will contınue to put orders every hour, may be ı can sell, i will wrıte here ıf ı can sell Top10 wallets addresses atleast belong to Surge asset creator http://wavesexplorer.com/address/3P5ztp8pUuZc4h4v8ZcX7rKs7FygBR9au91 this wallet is making fake trading volume ,If you check Waves block explorer you can see clearly that Surge creator Buy and Sell to himself to make fake trading volume to lure you to buy from that massive sell wall order which clearly belong to Surge creator too. I think Surge creator put some code lines in script allow him to Buy and sell to a specific addresses so 5000 dıfferent orders wont work even if you are in the top first line sell orders. Surge asset designed only to enrich its creator by taking your precious Waves and give you fake hope to sell in high price which will not gonna happen. Print >> https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/imagens/surge_discord-jpg :(copy grom bitcointalk) : I think Surge creator put some code lines in script allow him to Buy and sell to specific addresses so 5000 dıfferent orders wont work even if you are in the top first line sell orders. Surge asset designed only to enrich its creator by taking your precious Waves and give you fake hope to sell in high price which will not gonna happen. Answer from Admin in the group Waves Discord Well,Surge dont violate any of these rules mentioned while creating an asset. Waves is a decentralized platform and that's up to everyone whether to buy/sell a token or not. Considering suspecious cases with Smart Assets, let's consider a cesa when 9x tokens were airdropped to users, but according to the description of a token, you can sell it only having 10 and more tokens. So, you've bought some additicional ones for egg. 10 bucks but soon afeter that you see that you see that you can't still place and order. This case is a 100% scam attempt indeed. Speaking about Surge , users place orders for free., its script fully describes the asset detalis and structure. So, it hasn't been marked as Suspicious __________________________ Well, I think Surge is not a Scam case here ... I think it's just the smart asset ¯ \ _ (ツ) _ / ¯I have participated in the market for about 3 days after being noticed why only this wallet can sell its assets http://wavesexplorer.com/address/3P5ztp8pUuZc4h4v8ZcX7rKs7FygBR9au91do others have to keep waiting their turn to be able to sell it? hope this isn't a game from dev and hope it's not a scam too When you see a Newbie Dormant account from Sept 2017 suddenly post in Surge thread and defend Surge asset more than Surge issuer itself then you understand a lot of things and btw your explanation is about other dozen scam smart asset assets airdropped who ask minimum amount of token itself inorder to be able to sell it (even if you meet min requirement you cant sell ) which is obviously not the case of Surge asset , we still need reasonable explanation how this address only could sell 3P5ztp8pUuZc4h4v8ZcX7rKs7FygBR9au91 @douglassodre if you believe Surge is not scam the go and catch that massive 40k Surge sell wall and give us screeshot of how you will manage to sell it back Your explanation was talking about this type of scam tokens. What is this LuckyCoins 777 ? You can't send it, can't sell it unless in units of 1000, and I seee only the address issuing it has sold any (correct me if I'm wrong)
The coin ID is ELzPGDcDofrJPkp1WurDhDfo7X8HPinyw6Ls9FYGvWKX
Stay away from this scam token and all token look like it (surge , sheer , Jewel , goldmine etc) all these tokens most probably are made by one lowlife scammer behind them.... Even if you buy more (which scammer want you to do) you cant sell them because of script , also i saw many members on waves telegram bought more than 1000 Luckycoin and they cant sell it.... https://twitter.com/wctgram/status/1096856717944590339https://twitter.com/tetewcrypto/status/1096850710711410689  |
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Has anyone succeeded in selling at least 1 surge token?..  Good luck with that , Only Surge asset creator sell to himself to make fake trading volume. |
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yes but you cant sell it iö very suspıcıous about it , there is lots and lots of volume but its so strange you cant sell it, evven ı trıed 5000 dıfferent order but non of them fılled, i will contınue to put orders every hour, may be ı can sell, i will wrıte here ıf ı can sell Top10 wallets addresses atleast belong to Surge asset creator http://wavesexplorer.com/address/3P5ztp8pUuZc4h4v8ZcX7rKs7FygBR9au91 this wallet is making fake trading volume ,If you check Waves block explorer you can see clearly that Surge creator Buy and Sell to himself to make fake trading volume to lure you to buy from that massive sell wall order which clearly belong to Surge creator too. I think Surge creator put some code lines in script allow him to Buy and sell to a specific addresses so 5000 dıfferent orders wont work even if you are in the top first line sell orders. Surge asset designed only to enrich its creator by taking your precious Waves and give you fake hope to sell in high price which will not gonna happen. |
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Centralized Exchanges CE still dominating Crypto because of liquidity, so it attract traders but Im sure CE will disappear soon with rise of Decentralized Exchanges DEX and Binance already realized this fact so they are working to launch a DEX. Traders are leaving CE slowly due continuous changing of CE TOS , ask for more personal info ID etc.... Like what Bittrex did with its users , they change TOS suddenly and took Cryto coins as hostage until user provide complete ID + selfie above it , Funny fact about Centralized Exchanges you can deposit unlimited amount of cryptocurrencies such as btc eth .... but you cant withdraw until you verified your account then you cant withdraw limited amount daily , CE are same thing as Banks .... above all that your coins could disappear if CE get hacked or owner exit scam like mtgox. Your Key Your Coins , thats it. |
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the BTC market in 2018 is very bad and created a bear market. and that affects the fundraising model (ICO).
haha, nice joke. the ICOs killed themselves as do every other scam that has existed in the history of the scammers. they come, scam people for a while and succeed. then people catch on to the stupid scam and don't pay them anymore. then the scammers change their face and come at them at another angle, in this case they call it another name while pulling the same scam, STO, ICO, IEO, ABC, ... they are all the same. Finally, Someone is this forum think logically, Lets Devs start projects by their own money and then we will see how they work 24/7 non stop to make their projects succeed , Not like ICOs free money , once they put hands on ico fund the luxury life start and they give thousands of excuses to investors for the project not moving like in roadmap and then investors ends holding worthless token. Lets stop investing in ICO IEO or whatever the name, keep your bitcoins safe in your wallet and do some daily trading better than giving your money to IEO ICO lazy scammers suckers. |
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It came Into existence because investors stopped investing their money in easy money grab or which known as ICOs So now money suckers and greedy exchanges come up with new attractive method they name it IEO to raise fund from investors in easy way so its win win for both exchanges and projects starter or Devs , exchange win more trading fees and take % from IEO fund and Dev win easy money and after token get listed price dump 90% then investors come here in forum open thread and start cursing and whining for their losses.
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Know Your CEO is a good idea , if all ICOs starters pass Know Your CEO procedure then u will find that 99% of them just attracted by easy money making and scam intention.
i still dont understand why investors give their money to some unknown stranger with exchange of trash whitepaper and some promises and then Dev disappear or keep burning ICO fund by spending it on them selves and investors waiting for coin or token to take value while Dev/CEO living a luxury life with their money.
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The right title of this thread is How to lose money on cryptocurrency in 2019 ,Tens of Failed ICOs projects trading in exchanges with 5 -10% of their initial value and when investors stopped investing in ICOs they came up with new name which is IEO the new idea to make easy money for Both Exchanges and so called Projects Developers , so Yeah give your money to bunch of lazy people who add zero value to cryptocurrency sphere and just make it look ugly and scammy.
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