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141  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [93units left] You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 22, 2013, 12:20:38 PM
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142  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [95units left] You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 21, 2013, 06:06:23 PM
Welcome to the Beach Side condo, Evan!
143  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [95units left] You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 20, 2013, 06:20:41 PM
There will be UPS, but the facility does not have its own backup generator. If the blackout is more than thirty minutes, then we're all out of luck.

EDIt:
This is straight from the Douglas PUD website:

INTERRUPTION OF SERVICE:

Your District will use reasonable diligence to provide an adequate and uninterrupted supply of electrical energy at normal voltage and communication services at maximum speeds.  However, if the supply shall be interrupted without notice for any cause, such failure shall not constitute a breach of the District’s agreement for service.

Your District shall have the right to temporarily suspend electric and communication services for the purpose of making repairs or improvements to the system, but in such cases, when practicable, public notice shall be given and every effort will be made to make such interruptions as short as possible.

The District shall not be liable for any consequential damages resulting from the interruption, restorations, or reduction of electric and communication services from any cause, including but not limited to failure of generation and distribution system, inadequacy of energy supply, implementation of emergency plans or temporary disconnections for repairs and maintenance or failure to pay for service rendered.  During an emergency declared by appropriate civil authority, it is possible that the District may be required to curtail or disconnect electric and communication services.
144  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Price Reduced! You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 20, 2013, 05:07:34 PM
Recurring Expenses (including management fee)

1. Electricity - approx 3 cents per kWh (Douglas county, WA)
2. Internet access - shared with other owners
3. Space fee - 0.012 BTC per unit (10 chips) per month
4. Management fee - 5% of your earning (no bigger than what you would pay a mining pool)

Among all the countries of the world, I don't think there's any country that can beat 3 cents per kWh. (Maybe there's a place in Australia that is cheaper, let me know.) If you find this price hard to believe, here is the link to the Douglas county PUD.

If we simply put the power consumption of each condo unit at 6.6W * 2.82 GH/s, then in one hour it consumes 18.612 Watt hours, which is 446.69 Watt hours in a day, which is 13.4 kWh in a month. Therefore, at 3 cents per kWh, your electricity cost per month comes to less than one U.S. dollar a month (40 cents)! If you own a whole box (32 units), your electricity cost per month is only about $12.86 per month. The Condo Management System will convert this into BTC and charge it prorated from every distribution, along with the Internet access and space fees. The management fee of 5% will then be calculated and charged also. The management fee is not a fixed amount, which is good for you because then it would be in Centerus' interest to optimize your earnings on a daily basis. If you don't earn, we don't earn also.

EDIT:
The average electricity cost in the U.S. is about 15 cents per kWh, so compared to Anytown, USA, your cost in Douglas county is only one-fifth of the average. In other words, in most other places, you are looking at electricity expenses of at least $64.30 per box per month. So even for those who are already running their own Avalon boxes, it may make sense to entrust your box to us. Initially our operation will not be anywhere like a data center operation, but we will improve.

Now remember, if we become big enough, we can be our own mining pool, and you don't have to pay another fee for a separate mining pool. I realize there are mining pools that don't charge any fees, and its up to you to join those. The Condo Management System will allow you to join any compatible mining pool. You are in control of your units.

I don't follow your math on power consumption. Each chip consumes an estimated 2.5w, and this is not relative to hashing power, so I'm not sure what you're dividing, exactly.

a 10-chip unit of 2.5watts per chips is 25 watts per unit, meaning .6kwh per day, or 18 KwH per MONTH (not per day), or about $0.54/month. Multiplied by 32 would be $17.28/month.

Your management fees seem quite reasonable, assuming you're certain they will stay.

What happens if the venture fails, for whatever reason? Do we get our chips back? Do we get the boards as well (since we paid for them), etc, etc.

Would you be interested in housing/managing other hardware in your datacenter, for similar fees?

Thanks for correcting my arithmetic. Yes, Avalon has released new specs for the chip, and it does come out to 2.5W consumption (2.4W to be more precise).

As for your questions, thanks for asking. Here are the answers:

I have high confidence that the management fees will stay. This is slowly gaining interest, and if we reach a critical mass, the management fees can only benefit from economies of scale.

If the venture fails, then you will get your units back. However, you will have to pay for shipping and handling costs. If you own less than 8 units (a module with its own heat sink), it is understood that what you will get back are just the hashing units (condo units). If you own less than 4 modules, it is understood that what you will get back are just the modules. This is a worst-case scenario and I'm not aiming for it.

Yes, for similar fees, I am willing to host other hardware. However, I won't call it a "data center" operation at this point. A data center implies a host of other things that this setup will lack. All I can promise at this point is that the machines will be in a facility that is manned 24/7 (the person is watching other things, not just our mining rigs). There will be a local computer company servicing the machines. A service technician will be cleaning and maintaining the machines once every four months, and this local company will be on call so that if a condo unit breaks, a technician will come and shut down the one system involved, and replace the broken hashing unit. A number of web-cams will be installed, allowing the whole setup to be viewable from anywhere in the world.
145  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [CLOSED] Avalon ASIC chip distribution on: May 20, 2013, 03:32:18 PM
SUP; flyonwall; flyonwall

It's only natural that I support my own project  Cheesy
146  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [CLOSED] Avalon ASIC chip distribution on: May 20, 2013, 12:53:55 PM
OWN; flyonwall

ASIC Chip Condo
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189976.0
147  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [96units left] You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 19, 2013, 07:17:42 PM
Thank you SebastianJu.

Also, the Condos will not be located in Cebu City anymore. Electricity is too expensive there. The Condos will be located in Douglas County, Washington, USA. Electricity rates in this place are among the lowest cost in the world.
148  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [96units left] You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 19, 2013, 07:01:14 PM
I will review what I wrote and make it clearer:

There are five Condo Systems on sale now at 1.34BTC per Condo Unit.
Each Condo System has 32 Units, so there's a total of 160 on sale.
Out of those 160 units, 64 have already been sold.
Therefore, there are still 96 left to buy at the discounted price.
149  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Updated] You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 19, 2013, 01:42:43 PM
Looks like the Spartan-6 bitstream is out: https://github.com/BitSyncom/avalon-ref/tree/master/FPGA

Thank you, Avalon.
150  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Sample Chips on: May 19, 2013, 01:37:48 PM
I am waiting ... everyone's waiting. Any day now.
151  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: May 19, 2013, 11:51:53 AM
...
EDIT:
It seems that the serial driver has to be used in cgminer because, on the Control Unit side, the USB goes through an offchip UART before connecting to the Spartan-6.
Incorrect - you do not have to use serial-USB - the linux kernel simply sits on top of the ftdi_sio driver which is, of course, usb.
You just need to know how to talk to it on USB (as the sio driver already does)

Please clarify what you mean by "the linux kernel simply sits on top of the ftdi_sio driver".

My point is this: USB involves complex protocol, UART is simple. We can simulate a direct UART connection between any two systems through the Internet, as is being done as we speak. Now the Internet protocols are even more complex than USB. The easiest way to talk UART to another system through the Internet is NOT to muck with the Internet protocols (that would be crazy). The easiest way is to have another Internet appliance (similar to the one used on the other UART endpoint), and talk UART to that appliance. Similarly in the case of USB.

The simple topology seems to be [sio driver] <--> [usb driver] <-- usb wire --> [usb protocol hw] <--> [uart hw], with the [uart hw] on Avalon's control unit side dictating that the [sio driver] be used on the cgminer side. That's my point.

In other words, we may have to remove the [uart hw] on the Avalon control unit to get rid of the [sio driver] on cgminer.
152  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Updated] You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 18, 2013, 01:27:17 PM
Most likely we will run out of time trying to craft an enhanced Control Unit. The USB connection to the Spartan-6 can be enhanced by replacing both the uPD720114 and the FT232 UART with a single CY7C68013A which serializes/deserializes to 16-bits. However, if there is no serious problem with the way it is now, and Avalon releases the Spartan-6 bitstream before we can complete ours, we will just use the original Avalon design.

This means we also don't have to do any Spartan-6 programming. We will just use the Avalon FPGA bitstream, as is.

It all depends on when Avalon will release the Spartan-6 bitstream ...
153  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: May 18, 2013, 12:40:29 PM

The next step is to chuck the usb-serial code and go direct usb and remove a lot of the hacks and work arounds that were used and improve it a lot more.


What is the issue with going through usb-serial code?  Is it a bottleneck?  Or is this to improve reliability?

I ask this question because I am currently trying to decide whether to design my own Control Unit and replace the way the USB on the Control Unit is grafted onto the Spartan-6. The USB connection to the Spartan-6 can be enhanced by replacing both the uPD720114 and the FT232 UART with a single CY7C68013A which serializes/deserializes to 16-bits.

EDIT:
It seems that the serial driver has to be used in cgminer because, on the Control Unit side, the USB goes through an offchip UART before connecting to the Spartan-6.
154  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: May 18, 2013, 05:11:13 AM
Question: I have done some USB driver work on Windows. How difficult would it be to remove the serial port driver and go directly to USB? The USB protocol is more complicated than that for UART, but I imagine in cgminer high-level interfaces should look very similar to those for a UART?
This is what I'm currently working on, as most other drivers in cgminer are direct USB. To complete the work I need extended access to hardware and doing it remotely is proving problematic.

Con, how much time do you think you need on the machine?

Is it difficult to do remotely because you sometimes need a hard reboot?  I could potentially set up access for you with the ability to remotely power cycle the machine.
The problem(s) maybe caused by the fact that, on the Avalon Control Unit, the USB serial I/O connects to a UART (FT232), instead of being deserialized and sent to the Spartan-6 chip. So to talk to the Spartan-6, you really need to use the UART protocol instead of the USB protocol. It seems to me that the USB protocol is transparent (or pass-through) in this case.
155  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: May 18, 2013, 01:44:23 AM
Question: I have done some USB driver work on Windows. How difficult would it be to remove the serial port driver and go directly to USB? The USB protocol is more complicated than that for UART, but I imagine in cgminer high-level interfaces should look very similar to those for a UART?
156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPCoin: Another Use for the Avalon SHA256 Chips? on: May 18, 2013, 01:22:01 AM
Are there Avalon owners already doing this? So it can be done even without modifying the Control Unit?
157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / PPCoin: Another Use for the Avalon SHA256 Chips? on: May 18, 2013, 01:10:37 AM
At some point, when the difficulty rises to a level that even the Avalon chips will have a hard time earning for the Avalon miners, of what use is your expensive Avalon mining equipment?

I am looking into the possibility of using the chips to mine for PPCoins. This crypto-currency uses the same hashing algorithm as Bitcoin. In fact, it is derived from Bitcoin source code.

For those who bought Avalon systems, I believe this repurposing would require reprogramming the Spartan-6 Control Unit. Other than this, I don't see any other changes that would be required.

What do you think?
158  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Updated] You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 18, 2013, 12:23:02 AM
Philippines = Among most expensive electricity in the entire world.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/10/10/11/ph-power-rates-5th-highest-world
Yes, that's why we decided against locating in the Philippines. Also, your link is 2 years old. The rate in Cebu City is now about 30 cents per kWh.
159  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Price Reduced! You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 17, 2013, 11:03:27 PM
Recurring Expenses (including management fee)

1. Electricity - approx 3 cents per kWh (Douglas county, WA)
2. Internet access - shared with other owners
3. Space fee - 0.012 BTC per unit (10 chips) per month
4. Management fee - 5% of your earning (no bigger than what you would pay a mining pool)

Among all the countries of the world, I don't think there's any country that can beat 3 cents per kWh. (Maybe there's a place in Australia that is cheaper, let me know.) If you find this price hard to believe, here is the link to the Douglas county PUD.

If we simply put the power consumption of each condo unit at 6.6W * 2.82 GH/s, then in one hour it consumes 18.612 Watt hours, which is 446.69 Watt hours in a day, which is 13.4 kWh in a month. Therefore, at 3 cents per kWh, your electricity cost per month comes to less than one U.S. dollar a month (40 cents)! If you own a whole box (32 units), your electricity cost per month is only about $12.86 per month. The Condo Management System will convert this into BTC and charge it prorated from every distribution, along with the Internet access and space fees. The management fee of 5% will then be calculated and charged also. The management fee is not a fixed amount, which is good for you because then it would be in Centerus' interest to optimize your earnings on a daily basis. If you don't earn, we don't earn also.

EDIT:
The average electricity cost in the U.S. is about 15 cents per kWh, so compared to Anytown, USA, your cost in Douglas county is only one-fifth of the average. In other words, in most other places, you are looking at electricity expenses of at least $64.30 per box per month. So even for those who are already running their own Avalon boxes, it may make sense to entrust your box to us. Initially our operation will not be anywhere like a data center operation, but we will improve.

Now remember, if we become big enough, we can be our own mining pool, and you don't have to pay another fee for a separate mining pool. I realize there are mining pools that don't charge any fees, and its up to you to join those. The Condo Management System will allow you to join any compatible mining pool. You are in control of your units.
160  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Price Reduced! You give me your Avalon chips, and I will house them in a "condo" on: May 16, 2013, 11:42:01 AM
The Avalon SHA256 chip communications specs are out: https://github.com/BitSyncom/avalon-ref/blob/master/SPEC/A3256Q48-130507-V03-EN.pdf

I don't see any discrepancy between my description of the communication protocol, and the official description from Avalon. Except for the fact that the Avalon is much more detailed (at the bit-level), I think my description of it is a very good summary.

So now, on to Spartan-6 programming! We are using a Spartan-6 card that we ordered from alibaba.com to do our prototyping.
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