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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going all in and losing the bet on: April 15, 2024, 06:28:59 AM
If you bet with little amount of money, you will not be afraid to bet, unlike if you want to bet with high amount of money that will make you fear and let you want to go for what will possibly be the outcome and in the process, loss are more possible unlike if you bet with small amount and just not fearing but gambling responsibly. It is not good to go with all the money you have in your betting account, neither is it good to bet with high amount of money, but to bet with small amount instead.

The amount of bets made can indeed affect, especially with a large amount of bets I think of course it will affect our feelings, it can be panic or not calm, but even with a small amount of bets I think it's the same if the goal is to double the money you have. Now if we bet with a small bet but the goal is to double then I think every round will make us uneasy. Moreover, with a large amount of bets, of course I will become gambling even more unenjoyable.

In gambling, it is the loss that will often occur rather than the victory, so it is not recommended to bet all the money we have on gambling, because most likely it will only make us lose money instead of being able to double the money, also I think that people who bet all their money on gambling may be people who are very obsessed with getting big wins.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not everyone deserves to hear of your winning in gambling. on: April 15, 2024, 05:33:58 AM
For every gambler, of course they must have their own goals and do not need to be influenced by other people's lives and the wins that other people get do not require us to continue gambling in the hope of getting wins like other people have, but we have to stick to our planning. ourselves and also don't let us not be able to enjoy the bets we are playing because we are influenced by the winnings that other people have obtained so that we cannot concentrate on the game we are playing and no longer control ourselves in betting so we bet greedily which will make us a lot of money. the losses we get and it is true that someone's life path will always be different even if they play the same type of bet because someone's luck is certainly different.

Of course every person or gambler must have their own goals whether it's to win gambling or to have fun But I think it's true that not everyone, deserves to hear the victory over the gambling we do because there are some people's views on gambling that don't like gambling Even with the winnings on display but still for people who do not like gambling they will not have a good view even if it is with a win.

It is true,  we must be able to enjoy the gambling that is done if we only think about winning it will only make the gambling that is done cannot be enjoyed or the gambling that is done will only make us lose self-control.  It's important to know that you're not going to have to worry about a lot of things, but it's important to know that you're not going to have to worry about a lot of things.
3  Economy / Economics / Re: Debt Management. on: April 15, 2024, 04:43:02 AM
Yes, we must be responsible for the initial decision when requesting a loan and we definitely promise to pay at a certain time, we must definitely be responsible for the payment time that has been determined so that you do not have a history of negative behavior or inappropriate promises to the borrower, even though we You don't have to pay interest on the loan, but appreciate that the borrower has provided a financial solution when you are in dire financial need. If we apply a responsible attitude towards other people, we will trust you forever.

Sometimes debt agreements must be paid at the right time, and if they are late there is usually interest that will increase over time, and there may be people who borrow money and then pay it in installments like once a week. If we have borrowed money then we should pay it because it is an obligation. If we borrow money from the bank and we can't pay it back, we might be in trouble. It's like the person we're dealing with could come to our house and talk to us about the debt that needs to be repaid. 

I agree with you, loans do help our finances, and we take loans because we need money either to fulfill our needs or for other things.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted on: April 14, 2024, 12:53:06 PM
It's true what you said, the majority of beginners, of course, they might only think about the good side, such as playing and winning, while the victory that is difficult to get they don't think about, even though defeat will dominate more than victory, and I think they will not be able to accept when the money they bet is lost or the gambling that is done ends in defeat. Because the name is also a beginner so maybe they don't understand gambling properly, like you said, they will only think about winning.

I think that confidence in being able to get a win is what leads them to addiction, because if they don't expect too much in gambling maybe they won't be ambitious to be able to get a win, whereas with them having hope it makes them ambitious to be sure of getting a win, even though the gambling they do ends in defeat but when they expect more in gambling they can return to gambling again until they are addicted.

Yes, and that may be a natural thing for beginners who want to gamble because they have never experienced anything bad from the effects of gambling risks, but beginners can only see and assess the good side, namely winning. Therefore, beginners who really want to enter and play on the gambling platform must be able to understand well what risks will occur later if they only see wins.

To be precise, for beginners who have strong self-confidence and are not yet equipped with self-control to perfect it, the beginner will experience gambling addiction and he will only realize that when he does not get the desired hope, he actually loses and loses a lot. what he got.

It's very unfortunate when they gamble by only thinking about winning, while the possibility that they will definitely lose will make them lose money. also if they only think about winning, in my opinion it will only lead them to continue to lose more money, losing at gambling cannot be avoided, that means losing money when gambling is also unavoidable, it is not recommended that we gamble by only thinking about wins and wins only, because winnings in gambling cannot be predicted accurately.

Beginner gamblers certainly have strong confidence and self-confidence, plus usually beginners who gamble will usually win but don't know what's out there, because in my environment it's like that, people who gamble for the first time are usually given a win. , then with that win they come to believe that gambling can give them a quick win that can make them have a lot of money, but it actually traps them in addiction and big losses.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Patience can help alot on: April 14, 2024, 12:31:25 PM
It is true that you said, patience does not only apply to gambling, patience certainly applies in all the things we do including the activities we do every day, especially with things that are related to finance or profit, such as business or investment, of course patience has a big role, indeed everyone wants wealth so who doesn't want to be rich? Of course everyone wants that, but there are people who cannot be patient with wanting to get a lot of money so they think that gambling is one of the means that can give them victory and make them rich in a short time, unfortunately that is not true.

Every person who gambles, of course, their main goal is mostly to double their money or want to get, it is clear that there are wins that can be obtained, it's just that most people are impatient in gambling. As when they experience victory, when they get a victory they consider themselves lucky and with that they play more aggressively so they forget that the risk of losing is greater than winning. And also those who experience big losses I'm sure because they can't be patient when gambling, whereas as you said gambling must be done with good patience so that there are no big losses.
Patience. Everyone uses it, but do they understand? You do. You know patience is crucial in every money game, not just gambling. Unfortunately, most people are wired for quick wins, get-rich-fast schemes. This is how they're played

The perfect example is gambling. People consider it a shortcut. It's not. After one lucky hand, you feel invincible. Then it becomes ugly. You crash harder than you ever soared due to impatience, greater investments, and crazier risks. A damn cycle, and not only about cards or spaces. This garbage is everywhere—stock market, business dealings

Man, this is life. The tortoise and the hare, remember? Instant pleasure poisons our time. Patience is needed for lasting success. This requires grinding, thinking, and occasionally playing it safe. Who has time for that in this chaotic world? That's our dilemma

That's the problem, gambling should be played but because they are impatient with playing it so many problems occur instead gambling plays on them themselves. It is very unfortunate when they are fooled by gambling because then they will only experience big losses. with the motive of wanting to win but instead experiencing big defeats and losses. It is very wrong if they think that gambling is a shortcut to getting rich, even though there is a chance of winning big at gambling, it is very impossible to get it, therefore if we want to win then we have to be patient, don't let gambling play tricks on us.

Sometimes the pleasure we get actually causes us to experience the destruction of our lives, for example when gambling has already resulted in a win, but because they can't wait to win an even bigger win, many gamblers continue to gamble using the winnings they have obtained, until they win. If it is lost again, we must be able to realize that gambling will only make us lose money, therefore we must be able to gamble patiently.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: April 14, 2024, 10:48:32 AM
Real Madrid still eight points clear on the table and with the few games left, Real Madrid will not want to lose points to any other team. Barcelona has improved and are showing really positive signs of improvement even with the massive team rotation of players who start games from the coach because even though they did not win the game by scoring many goals, they were able to win by defending the one goal that João Félix scored.
 Cadiz supporters will not be happy, there was a hand ball situation in the Barcelona penalty box that was not checked by the Referee, that was not good, and would have been a key moment in the game.

with the eight points they have they can lead at the top of the rankings, I think with their next match the teams that will be difficult for them to face are Manchester City and Barcelona, with Manchester City having good performance and strong play they will probably make things difficult for Real Madrid, with the result of their match yesterday ending in a draw, I think made Real Madrid overwhelmed, also with their statistics being more dominant than Manchester City, it proves that Manchester City can match Real Madrid's performance.

Secondly, Barcelona, I think they are a team that can also make things difficult for Real Madrid later. Even though yesterday's match between Real Madrid and Barcelona ended in defeat for Barcelona, perhaps Barcelona was having difficulties because Real Madrid certainly had an equally strong game. However, there is a possibility that I think Barcelona can win the next match against Real Madrid, but in my opinion it is quite difficult to catch up with the score.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted on: April 13, 2024, 05:53:54 AM
That's right, with this lack of experience, beginners still have very little understanding of how to gamble properly and correctly and what they know is that gambling will make money because what they see around them while playing is that there are people who win easily even though in reality winning is just luck. mere. at that time the god of luck favors the gambler.
And in the end, the novice gambler continues to play without thinking about the risks that will occur in the future. Beginner gamblers will often experience defeat because they are not optimal in gambling, only with courage and self-confidence can they continue to gamble. .

It's true what you said, the majority of beginners, of course, they might only think about the good side, such as playing and winning, while the victory that is difficult to get they don't think about, even though defeat will dominate more than victory, and I think they will not be able to accept when the money they bet is lost or the gambling that is done ends in defeat. Because the name is also a beginner so maybe they don't understand gambling properly, like you said, they will only think about winning.

I think that confidence in being able to get a win is what leads them to addiction, because if they don't expect too much in gambling maybe they won't be ambitious to be able to get a win, whereas with them having hope it makes them ambitious to be sure of getting a win, even though the gambling they do ends in defeat but when they expect more in gambling they can return to gambling again until they are addicted.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Patience can help alot on: April 13, 2024, 05:06:53 AM
Patience does not only apply to gamble but it is a virtue that when you have it in whatever you are doing, you will be able to achieve a positive outcome. Gambling is what needs patience on, if not you will not be able to withstand a tensed atmosphere when you are running at loss. If a gambler is patient with his lucky to play out, that gambler will not take drastic decisions of gambling with the amount that he can afford to lose, or neither will he think of only winning and not losing.

It is true that you said, patience does not only apply to gambling, patience certainly applies in all the things we do including the activities we do every day, especially with things that are related to finance or profit, such as business or investment, of course patience has a big role, indeed everyone wants wealth so who doesn't want to be rich? Of course everyone wants that, but there are people who cannot be patient with wanting to get a lot of money so they think that gambling is one of the means that can give them victory and make them rich in a short time, unfortunately that is not true.

Every person who gambles, of course, their main goal is mostly to double their money or want to get, it is clear that there are wins that can be obtained, it's just that most people are impatient in gambling. As when they experience victory, when they get a victory they consider themselves lucky and with that they play more aggressively so they forget that the risk of losing is greater than winning. And also those who experience big losses I'm sure because they can't be patient when gambling, whereas as you said gambling must be done with good patience so that there are no big losses.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: April 13, 2024, 04:39:12 AM
Barcelona's performance this season is indeed different from last season, so Real Madrid doesn't feel like they have very strong rivals in La Liga, not only Barcelona, even Atletico Madrid is also not that strong, so Real Madrid was able to progress smoothly even though they had to compete with Girona at first, but now they still Of course, no one can match Real Madrid's performance this season to win the La Liga title. With the remaining games in the season, it is very impossible for Barcelona to overtake Real Madrid in first place unless Real Madrid makes a mistake, but no matter how hard Barcelona wants to overtake Real Madrid, they won't let that happen. .

It was proven by their 2 meetings that Real Madrid was able to beat the La Liga champions last season and also beat Atletico Madrid so that is enough to prove that Real Madrid's performance is very strong this season and only he has the chance to win the La Liga title with the distance that Real Madrid has collected. So far, even though Real Madrid has shifted its focus to the Champions League, Real Madrid has also remained focused on La Liga to achieve consistent victory after victory.

It is true, with Barcelona currently experiencing less than optimal performance, it makes Real Madrid more free to lead at the top of the standings. With the points they have it is too far with Real Madrid so it is impossible for Barcelona to overtake Real Madrid's position because they have more points away from Barcelona. Also with Barcelona's next match against PSG I don't think they are too confident even though in the first leg they can beat PSG and also that right does make a surprise. But maybe in the second leg they will have a little trouble because of course PSG will definitely show a better game and performance than the previous match.

The chances of winning La Liga at this time for Real Madrid is indeed a big possibility because obviously they have points that are far from other teams. Right what you say, Real Madrid's current focus in my opinion they should focus more on La Liga first before going to the Champions League. After they win La Liga then they have to focus on the Champions League.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: April 13, 2024, 04:16:21 AM
You are right wining the champions League would have been awesome for him considering how people looked down on him during the beginning of this season but however achieving the trophy would almost seem to be difficult because we all know how the competition and race to win the champions League is very high among all the clubs, and also we know that Barcelona has been known or recognize to be one of the most experienced club on the champions League but there are more stronger clubs that has a high chance of wining the champions League than Barcelona, though I'm not saying that is impossible for Barcelona but only saying based on fact that there are more better team than them.

This season it is true that many teams are stronger than Barcelona, moreover, all teams certainly want to be able to get the championship, and with a big and strong team like Barcelona that has good experience which is now experiencing a decline in its game performance, of course this is an opportunity for other teams to be able to advance to win the trophy. Although it is equally difficult because as you said there are still many other stronger teams that will both definitely show their best performance to win.

Indeed, the fact is that Barcelona is experiencing a decline in performance. Not only that, even in my opinion there are still other teams that are equally known as teams that have experience but have experienced a decline in performance like Barcelona, this is unique because in my opinion this is what is said to be a spinning wheel where teams that have never won or won trophies have the opportunity to win and get trophies and also make new history.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ on: April 12, 2024, 07:10:25 AM
Seriously Arsenal is really performing well this season, and am really impressed by their performance this season, but their are still few matches to be played, and currently we are in dangerous period, any slight mistake from Arsenal, they they are going to drop from their current position, so they really have to maintain their consistency. I don’t just know why I still have the feelings that Arsenal won’t be able to win the premier League this season, I still have confidence in Liverpool, or Manchester city to win the league this season, Arsenal might find it kind of difficult, but honestly their performance is really good currently.

It's true what you say, indeed Arsenal this season they look good with their game and performance, although there are some matches that end with less than optimal results but I'm sure they've done their best. like when they faced West Ham, in the first leg they lost, but in the second leg they managed to turn things around very optimally in my opinion, and also when they faced United which ended in a draw it was not too bad either.

I myself believe more in City who will win the league this season. because indeed City also this season includes a team that is indeed very strong, even they can compensate for big teams like Real Madrid.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 12, 2024, 06:43:06 AM
Arsenal are fierce in performance, bringing on their best this season. We underestimate Arsenal because they have failed in the past and there current performance is nothing new but comparable as their previous stats. Mikel Arteta is incharge but it will take lengthy time before we'll be watching Arsenal winning and lifting major titles and bringing home to Emirate stadium. The Gunners will continue to strive because there's definitely no room for reluctant performance.

This is what the fans really hope for, they hope that Arsenal can play fiercely and show their best game by producing a final result with a win that can make all their fans happy. especially with yesterday's draw against Munich, in my opinion that's not a bad thing, and it looks like Arsenal fans shouldn't be disappointed with that either.

in the second leg match against Munich, maybe Arsenal fans have high hopes that Arsenal can beat Munich decisively, because Munich also seems to be currently experiencing a decline in performance, so maybe this is also an opportunity that Arsenal must make good use of to be able to make a difference. his fans are happy. Therefore, Arsenal must make good use of this opportunity, and indeed I think Arsenal can still win against Munich in the second leg.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: April 12, 2024, 05:49:50 AM
This is one of the factors in Munich's poor performance this season. A change of coach will have an impact on the team's performance. Sometimes some coaches can make a team better, like De Rossi with AS Roma. But it could also be worse if you can't adapt to every composition in the team. I think Tuchel is a good coach. I think Munich also didn't expect Leverkusen's performance this season. Everyone also thinks that Munich will compete with Dortmund again this season. But Xabi was surprisingly able to make Leverkusen the best team in the Bundesliga. I am sure that next season Muenhcen will perform better.

It is clear, changing coaches will certainly affect the team's performance, even though the coach is known to be good at training, of course there must be time to adapt as you said. because if there is no adaptation between the team or coach, it will be difficult later. and perhaps this is what Munich is experiencing, they are experiencing poor performance which is due to a change of coach at perhaps the wrong time.

That's true, indeed what Leverkusen displayed was surprising and perhaps Munich would not have thought that Leverkusen could be that good. Maybe this is what is called the wheel of the world turning, there are times when teams that are known to be strong become weak and experience poor performance.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted on: April 12, 2024, 05:30:01 AM

Newbies are naive and curious to win, they're also equipped with lots of money. Thereby they gamble not minding whether it'll finish soon or not, soon the whole funds disappear, and they start all over again. Repeating the same process that finished their funds. Till they get frustrated and agitated whenever gambling. Such feelings are a result of the emptiness of the necessary gambling information needed to gamble responsibly. It's never a one-day thing, gambling newbies won't learn immediately. But putting them on the right track is quite crucial in building a serene gambling environment. With well experienced players in the future.


Because they are equipped with a lot of money, beginners appear more confident in all the gambling games they see, and they don't even hesitate to risk large amounts of money. even though in fact the beginner has not really studied all types of casino games so only with courage and a strong sense of self-confidence he is willing to enter the casino just to get the wins and pleasure he hopes for.
However, in the long term, if a beginner cannot control himself and find out or learn from experienced gamblers, then he will suffer more in his life and can also experience the risk of severe depression due to the large loss of money he experiences.

It depends on the individual, because not all beginners have a lot of money to be able to gamble with a large amount of bets. but it's true what you said, beginners usually only capitalize on courage, and even that courage in my opinion is unintentional, so they gamble with a complete lack of understanding of gambling. but strangely, I often see why beginners usually get a win, I wonder if it's a trick of the casino or the host to make them believe in gambling or what.

It's not just beginners, I think all experienced gamblers or beginners will experience depression and stress if they can't control themselves so that it makes them lose a lot of money. a possible way to prevent beginners from getting addicted may be to give them examples of the bad effects that have happened a lot to gambling.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling A Hobby? on: April 12, 2024, 05:09:22 AM
Yes Gambling can be a hobby for sure. Especially this is a hobby for the rich people only. The people who don’t care about the money, and does gambling for recreational purpose or to pass the time. These type of people can consider gambling is a hobby. Whereas on the other hand, middle class people can’t afford gambling as a hobby. For them gambling is like extra work to make some quick and extra money with less effort and risk.

I agree with that, indeed for rich people perhaps they can make gambling a hobby, because of course a hobby is something that is done to make us happy even if it uses money to do it. and for rich people who have a lot of money, maybe it won't be a problem if they make gambling a hobby, even though I don't think it's good either, but that's up to each individual.

and for people in the lower middle class, I don't think they should make gambling a hobby, because in reality gambling will only drain their finances, so it is likely that they will fall into poverty if they make gambling a hobby, also with the large number of people, especially those in the lower middle class. The goal of gambling is to make money, not to have fun.
16  Economy / Economics / Re: When luxury becomes a necessity. on: April 10, 2024, 11:33:19 AM
well, I think it's okay to buy expensive things for work. If you can afford it, and it can help you in your work, then it would be better to buy it.
IMO, buying things that we will use for the long term at a more expensive price and that we can afford, will be better than buying things that are cheap, but hinder us in the work we have. Apart from that, the bigger the workload we have, the more things we need, and usually the items we need are items that have high prices.
Apart from that, another example, when someone has a high position, they are given expensive facilities. This is to make them work optimally. So, I think it's a common thing. If people start to get jealous of that, then just ignore them.

I agree with your opinion. It's okay when someone buys goods for the reason of helping us in our work, because it can increase enthusiasm for work. However, if we are unable to do accounting, we should not force ourselves because not all workers have to have the goods they want.
But when a worker cannot consider income and expenses it is very bad. For example if the goods we want do not match our income at work it can also hinder our work, and if we force ourselves we will definitely end up borrowing. So every item we want must be balanced with our income, therefore we as humans are not good at forcing ourselves.
So, adjust your desires to your income, if your income is a little better buy the goods you want that are cheap, as long as they are not cheap.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does gambling excites you ? on: April 10, 2024, 11:00:05 AM
People like that and including you can be said to be a small portion of gambling players who don't care about the money they have spent. and that can happen if people are really rich and don't know how to spend their money anymore, even on vacations and shopping.

but more than 90% I believe gamblers definitely want to win from the
game. then have fun with the results he has obtained during the game.

Every gambler definitely hopes to win, but if they have a lot of money they don't care about it because gambling is only for fun and seeking happiness. But if people are rich or have a lot of money, they still hope to win, because the essence of gambling is to win.

Therefore, the main aim of gambling is to win. Maybe tell me that every person who gambles and intends to seek pleasure and then have fun with it so that they can become addicted, it's all because they are too excited, and addiction doesn't know whether rich or poor.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: April 10, 2024, 10:28:38 AM
From my own opinion, I think one can get fired if he uses a company funds for gambling, the company pays it's workers and you don't have to gamble with their money for any reason unless they borrowed money from the company and squander it on gamble. Gamble is actually not meant for something you use borrow money for...


If they gamble by borrowing funds from the company, they will obviously be fired if their superiors find out, but if they gamble during work breaks, it may not interfere with their work because they know the time to play, but it still has an impact from gambling at work. that's very bad because a gambler when they are enjoying playing they will lose track of time. And a gambler who forces himself to gamble

So they lend money to companies because they have a very big addiction and curiosity so they force themselves to borrow. Because if a gambler who only enjoys entertainment may not force themselves, they will consider that if there is no capital, they will most likely not play gambling games.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling mistake repeated by the gamblers on: April 09, 2024, 01:22:14 PM
Indeed right, when you still seeing balance inside your bankroll you mostly thinks that you'll capable to make things profitable unknowingly doing something that already hurting your balance to the point that you already lose everything, you keep doing that same mistake as greed mostly dominated us, hoping and aiming for big profits instead of being contented with some amount of money that you already earn,.

Always best to know and understand how to things works and how will you adjust for the betterment of the outcome of your game, it's your decision making that keeps you repeating same mistake over and over.

That's right, because when we have a balance in our money, obviously thoughts of gambling will arise because of great curiosity. We will think that when we gamble using this balance we will get more than our capital, but I am sure that when they do this they will suffer losses because gambling is just a game from the bookie or admin of that game. In fact, what gamblers do when they make mistakes over and over again is because they are addicted and their curiosity is so great to win that they do it over and over again.

So it will be very difficult to stop gambling even if they experience mistakes because they already have an addiction to playing. Unless they are aware that what they are doing is wrong and they only get losses rather than wins then it is very likely that the gambler will stop gambling.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it right to advice other people against gambling for personal reasons like?? on: April 09, 2024, 12:57:25 PM
It's definitely okay because you're basically a living and in flesh example of what gambling can do to someone's life, I mean that's how I see it and that's why I believe that it's alright to give out advice. Regarding bad experience, I can't recall any experience that I can share that would amount to any kind lesson that would be profound so I'm not keen on sharing any

Actually, advising someone to stop gambling is clearly permissible, but we can only advise them to stop or it could be that from a bad experience we gambled so that losses befall us, but this is very difficult even if we advise those who have fallen into gambling or make their daily bread. To gamble, it is very difficult for us to advise gambling addicts because stopping gambling addicts does not come from someone's advice but from themselves or from their conscience. We can really advise a gambler to stop, but it must be done slowly so that it is accepted by the heart.

So Nase directs a gambling addict based on experience and then advises him in a good way so that the gambler understands and thinks about our advice.
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