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701  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dark Enlightenment on: May 16, 2014, 11:17:06 PM
Don't you have anything to do with yourself than write complete jibberish.
702  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dark Enlightenment on: May 16, 2014, 02:26:58 PM
See guys why I said I don't want to waste another second of my time on political and economics communication.
703  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin adoption slowing; Coinbase + Bitpay is enough to make Bitcoin a fiat on: May 16, 2014, 02:21:53 PM
I hope everyone realizes that Windows 8 phones home to Microsoft and Microsoft built backdoors into it. If you are running Windows 8 or Skype on any version of Windows (and maybe on any operating system), you may have no secrets as everything on your hard disk could have already been recorded. And any communications you are doing, even with something like Bitmessage, Tor, or other anonymizing client, could be revealed to the powers-that-be.

704  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity? on: May 16, 2014, 12:53:26 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Old dogs can't learn to hunt
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 15, 2014 8:51 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/15/real-conspiracy-the-manipulation-of-politics-to-save-the-euro/

Quote from: Armstrong
I have written about the audacity of the EU Commission to
intervene and remove elected people in Greece and Italy who wanted to
leave the Euro. They are in the process of staging political coups to
protect the established bureaucrats in Brussels. This is now all about
maintaining power – not the Bilderberg meetings and Illuminati. Tim
Geithner has confirmed the coup stating in his book: “At one point that
fall, a few European officials approached us with a scheme to try to force
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi out of power.” Geither writes
that he told the President about “this surprising invitation” to change
the head of Italy, but they decided not to get involved (publicly): “We
can’t have his blood on our hands.” Those who always blame the CIA need to
expand their perspective. They say there is nothing like a woman scorned.
I dare say there is. It’s a politician and unelected bureaucrats.

Amazing isn't how the European politicians organized this, the USA
politicians organized killing 2,999 on 9/11 which launched a global
terrorist false flag operation which has justified global Orwellian
(totalitarian) tracking of everything with 47 OECD nations now cooperating
to share national security data to track down all private wealth that
isn't a multi-national corporation, yet these are completely orthogonal
and there is no coordination by those few elite who own the
multi-nationals, banks, etc (as proven by the newscientist article on the
research I cited before).

And politicians are so dumb yet they manage such global coordination
spontaneously to protect their individual selfish goals.

Thermodynamics and entropy tell us the above is impossible without a force
holding it in coordination.

Thus the quote above is delusion and denial of basic realities of physics.

Intelligent men will learn to ignore the above writer and seek a frontier
where they can escape from the globalist hegemony.

The above writer will die a pitiful, dejected, frustrated man because
globalist hegemony will increase with every mass uprising. Term limits and
anti-dynasty laws won't make any difference.

Because he fundamentally doesn't understand the nature of the problem
confronting mankind.
705  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dark Enlightenment on: May 16, 2014, 12:53:18 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Old dogs can't learn to hunt
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 15, 2014 8:51 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/15/real-conspiracy-the-manipulation-of-politics-to-save-the-euro/

Quote from: Armstrong
I have written about the audacity of the EU Commission to
intervene and remove elected people in Greece and Italy who wanted to
leave the Euro. They are in the process of staging political coups to
protect the established bureaucrats in Brussels. This is now all about
maintaining power – not the Bilderberg meetings and Illuminati. Tim
Geithner has confirmed the coup stating in his book: “At one point that
fall, a few European officials approached us with a scheme to try to force
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi out of power.” Geither writes
that he told the President about “this surprising invitation” to change
the head of Italy, but they decided not to get involved (publicly): “We
can’t have his blood on our hands.” Those who always blame the CIA need to
expand their perspective. They say there is nothing like a woman scorned.
I dare say there is. It’s a politician and unelected bureaucrats.

Amazing isn't how the European politicians organized this, the USA
politicians organized killing 2,999 on 9/11 which launched a global
terrorist false flag operation which has justified global Orwellian
(totalitarian) tracking of everything with 47 OECD nations now cooperating
to share national security data to track down all private wealth that
isn't a multi-national corporation, yet these are completely orthogonal
and there is no coordination by those few elite who own the
multi-nationals, banks, etc (as proven by the newscientist article on the
research I cited before).

And politicians are so dumb yet they manage such global coordination
spontaneously to protect their individual selfish goals.

Thermodynamics and entropy tell us the above is impossible without a force
holding it in coordination.

Thus the quote above is delusion and denial of basic realities of physics.

Intelligent men will learn to ignore the above writer and seek a frontier
where they can escape from the globalist hegemony.

The above writer will die a pitiful, dejected, frustrated man because
globalist hegemony will increase with every mass uprising. Term limits and
anti-dynasty laws won't make any difference.

Because he fundamentally doesn't understand the nature of the problem
confronting mankind.
706  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity? on: May 16, 2014, 12:37:25 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: "Human rights" and "just" society are mass delusions
From:    "Shelby Moore" <shelby@coolpage.com>
Date:    Thu, May 15, 2014 8:34 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564097.msg6754006#msg6754006

These numbnuts will complain about others milking the collective trough,
but they don't admit to themselves that their own financial status is due
to the $223 trillion global total debt, $1000+ trillion of global unfunded
future liabilities from government to constituents, and another $1000+
trillion of global derivative swaps to hedge all of this and hold into
place beyond the point where it should have all defaulted in 1998 with
Long Term Capital Management when the velocity of money peaked as the
Knowledge Economy started to rise with the dot.com (computer network
effects) boom.

In other words, the numbnuts single out others without admitting to
themselves that they are too milking the trough and will be pay the (Grim)
Reaper eventually too.

They think so highly of themselves and the (repeating throughout all human
history) imminent megadeath society.

As for (constitutional or inalienable) rights, these don't exist except in
illusory lies for the formation a such a "just" society.

Rather rights exist only individually enforced when you possess knowledge
of a freedom frontier.

"Human rights" is always a manipulation of society by the power vacuum of
centralized control (a.k.a. democracy) that must control it.
707  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dark Enlightenment on: May 16, 2014, 12:37:17 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: "Human rights" and "just" society are mass delusions
From:    "Shelby Moore" <shelby@coolpage.com>
Date:    Thu, May 15, 2014 8:34 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564097.msg6754006#msg6754006

These numbnuts will complain about others milking the collective trough,
but they don't admit to themselves that their own financial status is due
to the $223 trillion global total debt, $1000+ trillion of global unfunded
future liabilities from government to constituents, and another $1000+
trillion of global derivative swaps to hedge all of this and hold into
place beyond the point where it should have all defaulted in 1998 with
Long Term Capital Management when the velocity of money peaked as the
Knowledge Economy started to rise with the dot.com (computer network
effects) boom.

In other words, the numbnuts single out others without admitting to
themselves that they are too milking the trough and will be pay the (Grim)
Reaper eventually too.

They think so highly of themselves and the (repeating throughout all human
history) imminent megadeath society.

As for (constitutional or inalienable) rights, these don't exist except in
illusory lies for the formation a such a "just" society.

Rather rights exist only individually enforced when you possess knowledge
of a freedom frontier.

"Human rights" is always a manipulation of society by the power vacuum of
centralized control (a.k.a. democracy) that must control it.
708  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 16, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: "Human rights" and "just" society are mass delusions
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 15, 2014 8:34 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564097.msg6754006#msg6754006

These numbnuts will complain about others milking the collective trough,
but they don't admit to themselves that their own financial status is due
to the $223 trillion global total debt, $1000+ trillion of global unfunded
future liabilities from government to constituents, and another $1000+
trillion of global derivative swaps to hedge all of this and hold into
place beyond the point where it should have all defaulted in 1998 with
Long Term Capital Management when the velocity of money peaked as the
Knowledge Economy started to rise with the dot.com (computer network
effects) boom.

In other words, the numbnuts single out others without admitting to
themselves that they are too milking the trough and will be pay the (Grim)
Reaper eventually too.

They think so highly of themselves and the (repeating throughout all human
history) imminent megadeath society.

As for (constitutional or inalienable) rights, these don't exist except in
illusory lies for the formation a such a "just" society.

Rather rights exist only individually enforced when you possess knowledge
of a freedom frontier.

"Human rights" is always a manipulation of society by the power vacuum of
centralized control (a.k.a. democracy) that must control it.
709  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity? on: May 15, 2014, 05:54:20 PM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Conspiracy theorists caused the West to abandon Ukraine
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 15, 2014 1:52 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

Perfectly logical. Excuse me, I was blinded to the connection.
710  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dark Enlightenment on: May 15, 2014, 05:54:00 PM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Conspiracy theorists caused the West to abandon Ukraine
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 15, 2014 1:52 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

Perfectly logical. Excuse me, I was blinded to the connection.
711  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin adoption slowing; Coinbase + Bitpay is enough to make Bitcoin a fiat on: May 15, 2014, 03:28:39 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Sheeople rising into revolutions; expect herd outcomes
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 14, 2014 11:22 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564097.msg6736214#msg6736214

Totalitarians always think there are not enough reality checks for "the
rejects" and "low-life".

In their view, all problems are always caused by the scum and not by the
collective growing to be 75% of the GDP.

Remember the propaganda from Hitler about the how the weak and impure were
the drag on the great Aryan society. No one paid attention to the fact
that he was printing money and the government was the economy.

Totalitarians always end up with the megadeath they foment and deserve.

I will say one more time, make sure you find the opt-out frontiers. See my
latest posts in the Dark Enlightenment and Mad Max threads.

Adios numbnuts.

Numbnuts (nuhm-nuhts)
Noun

1. The stupidest of the stupid. A complete dumbass, one whose intelligence
quotient does not surpass that of the average rock.

2. An utter disgrace of humanity.

3. One whose purpose in life is meaningless; a complete and total waste of
life.

4. An ignorant, arrogant asshole.
712  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity? on: May 15, 2014, 03:27:09 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Sheeople rising into revolutions; expect herd outcomes
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 14, 2014 11:22 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564097.msg6736214#msg6736214

Totalitarians always think there are not enough reality checks for "the
rejects" and "low-life".

In their view, all problems are always caused by the scum and not by the
collective growing to be 75% of the GDP.

Remember the propaganda from Hitler about the how the weak and impure were
the drag on the great Aryan society. No one paid attention to the fact
that he was printing money and the government was the economy.

Totalitarians always end up with the megadeath they foment and deserve.

I will say one more time, make sure you find the opt-out frontiers. See my
latest posts in the Dark Enlightenment and Mad Max threads.

Adios numbnuts.

Numbnuts (nuhm-nuhts)
Noun

1. The stupidest of the stupid. A complete dumbass, one whose intelligence
quotient does not surpass that of the average rock.

2. An utter disgrace of humanity.

3. One whose purpose in life is meaningless; a complete and total waste of
life.

4. An ignorant, arrogant asshole.
713  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dark Enlightenment on: May 15, 2014, 03:26:32 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Sheeople rising into revolutions; expect herd outcomes
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 14, 2014 11:22 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564097.msg6736214#msg6736214

Totalitarians always think there are not enough reality checks for "the
rejects" and "low-life".

In their view, all problems are always caused by the scum and not by the
collective growing to be 75% of the GDP.

Remember the propaganda from Hitler about the how the weak and impure were
the drag on the great Aryan society. No one paid attention to the fact
that he was printing money and the government was the economy.

Totalitarians always end up with the megadeath they foment and deserve.

I will say one more time, make sure you find the opt-out frontiers. See my
latest posts in the Dark Enlightenment and Mad Max threads.

Adios numbnuts.

Numbnuts (nuhm-nuhts)
Noun

1. The stupidest of the stupid. A complete dumbass, one whose intelligence
quotient does not surpass that of the average rock.

2. An utter disgrace of humanity.

3. One whose purpose in life is meaningless; a complete and total waste of
life.

4. An ignorant, arrogant asshole.
714  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 15, 2014, 03:18:55 AM
Totalitarians always think there are not enough reality checks for "the rejects" and "low-life".

In their view, all problems are always caused by the scum and not by the collective growing to be 75% of the GDP.

Remember the propaganda from Hitler about the how the weak and impure were the drag on the great Aryan society. No one paid attention to the fact that he was printing money and the government was the economy.

Totalitarians always end up with the megadeath they foment and deserve.

I will say one more time, make sure you find the opt-out frontiers. See my latest posts in the Dark Enlightenment and Mad Max threads.

Adios numbnuts.

Numbnuts (nuhm-nuhts)
Noun

1. The stupidest of the stupid. A complete dumbass, one whose intelligence quotient does not surpass that of the average rock.

2. An utter disgrace of humanity.

3. One whose purpose in life is meaningless; a complete and total waste of life.

4. An ignorant, arrogant asshole.
715  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity? on: May 15, 2014, 01:22:57 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Armstrong helping to enslave the world in ignorance
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 14, 2014 9:15 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

That is why I work on opt-out technology.

The good news is 1000s of people are awake and aware. That could expand to
millions soon. We need to be ready to serve them with opt-out (frontier)
technology.

Ukraine had/has the largest Bitcoin pool. Apparently Martin isn't even
aware that some Ukrainians are already awake and not listening to his
myopic political BS.

Martin publishes these pathetic emails from Ukrainians who beg for the
West to come save them, as if the EU Commission, IMF, U.S.A. has ever
saved any one:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/13/propaganda-from-all-sides/

Here is again ignoring the question I asked him about who is creating the
economic destruction in EU, who stopped every country from leaving the EU,
forcing austerity, etc.. to cause economic decline and thus sow
revolution:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/14/gdp-of-poland-ukraine-the-numbers-behind-the-revolution/

Quote from: Armstrong
They do not comprehend cycles and that human nature
swings back and forth in ideas over the centuries unassisted by
all-powerful demigods.

Here Martin violates thermodynamics. Without top-down coordination forcing
a Coase's Theorem result there would an discord and chaos between nations,
not unified outcomes. The timing cycle of nature is predicting this
top-down control, so why does Martin ignore thermodynamics and ignore that
the top-down control must exist because his model's timing cycle demands
it?

Indeed he does not have a high IQ when it comes to assimilation of logic
cause and effect. He is very astute at memorization and modeling fine
grained details, but he is a dunce when it comes to distilling a
multivariate set to its generative essence (at least in this case and
maybe it is due to some confirmation bias).

Quote from: Armstrong
Yes we are in a major phase of a rise in civil unrest
against corruption that is inherent in all governments. This is part of
the separatist moves rising everywhere. Those that push CIA plots are
distracting the people from seeing we are in a global new trend. Ukraine
rose up because there was no future that way. We are seeing the youth rise
up in Southern Europe. More than 50% of the French want to leave France.
This is a giant upheaval against government. With the turn in the Cycle of
War in 2014, we should see an initial peak in 6 years,

Unfortunately Armstrong will pull his hair out (what little is remaining)
because every revolution will accomplish nothing, because this outcome was
designed and planned by the globalists. So Martin will help guide the
youth towards frustration and ultimately a desire for "human rights" and
an "international cooperation" solution before the end of this crisis in
2032. The globalists will win and the world will be enslaved in a top-down
world (and or regional) government.

And Martin for his good intentions will have helped to enslave mankind.

I hope he will be proud of his myopia and accomplishment. Should we send
him a NWO trophy then?

In the following blog post, Armstrong doesn't seem to know that in the
1980s all mass media ownership was consolidated into control of 50
families and I think now it is mostly in 5 families. He can't seem to
grasp that the globalists are in control of the media too.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/14/the-rise-against-corruption-is-also-inside-usa/


> I read all of your emails and you make excellent points.  I can't imagine
> Martin will ever be able to grasp it.
> I can see why your arguments about Russia/Putin being suckered into
> conflict are useful in your exchange with Martin who cannot fathom
> multiple layers of deception and compartmentalization.  In this context,
> the outcome is essentially the same whether foreign leaders are being
> tricked into economic and strategic moves that heighten international
> tensions sowing chaos, or whether the leaders are playing along but many
> or most of their subordinates are clueless.   The end result on the
> geopolitical stage is virtually the same.  The caveat being if a good
> percentage of the world's people knew that all conflicts were contrived,
> they would focus their ire and attention on the apex globalists rather
> than debating what the next "move" will be and whether or not actions
> taken are fair or legal, etc.
> There is also the strong hard-wired aspect of people allowing themselves
> to be divided into two warring camps, it's the lure of war, politics, and
> professional sports.  Gatekeepers have been setting up Putin to look like
> the a clever 007 underdog fighting the western powers (NWO) creating a
> scenario where many mostly awake people are actually rooting for
> Putin/Russia even though Russia has gone farther down the road of
> totalitarianism than the US.  The zombies following the MSM are either
> indifferent or think Putin is creating problems.  Both the MSM and the
> gatekeepers focus on the man, the personality, not so much the Russian
> government or people.  Classic psychological technique.  Obama vs Putin,
> you see pics on the net from the MSM of portraits of these two heads of
> state facing off nose to nose with Infowars running endless loops of
> fighter jet footage and talk of WWIII to increase the hysteria.   The most
> astute among the awake know that Obama doesn't make major military or
> economic decisions, that's done on another level and surely Putin takes
> orders as well.  Remarkably, nearly everyone forgets international bankers
> and their minions pull all of the strings setting up their big moves
> decades in advance.
> You give me a shred of hope your work and similar efforts will become the
> catalysts we need.
> I am disheartened over the level of ignorance in the general public.  It's
> painful to observe.
> Maybe you should contact our mother ship to beam us up and away from this
> insanity.
> Wink
716  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dark Enlightenment on: May 15, 2014, 01:22:22 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Armstrong helping to enslave the world in ignorance
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 14, 2014 9:15 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

That is why I work on opt-out technology.

The good news is 1000s of people are awake and aware. That could expand to
millions soon. We need to be ready to serve them with opt-out (frontier)
technology.

Ukraine had/has the largest Bitcoin pool. Apparently Martin isn't even
aware that some Ukrainians are already awake and not listening to his
myopic political BS.

Martin publishes these pathetic emails from Ukrainians who beg for the
West to come save them, as if the EU Commission, IMF, U.S.A. has ever
saved any one:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/13/propaganda-from-all-sides/

Here is again ignoring the question I asked him about who is creating the
economic destruction in EU, who stopped every country from leaving the EU,
forcing austerity, etc.. to cause economic decline and thus sow
revolution:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/14/gdp-of-poland-ukraine-the-numbers-behind-the-revolution/

Quote from: Armstrong
They do not comprehend cycles and that human nature
swings back and forth in ideas over the centuries unassisted by
all-powerful demigods.

Here Martin violates thermodynamics. Without top-down coordination forcing
a Coase's Theorem result there would an discord and chaos between nations,
not unified outcomes. The timing cycle of nature is predicting this
top-down control, so why does Martin ignore thermodynamics and ignore that
the top-down control must exist because his model's timing cycle demands
it?

Indeed he does not have a high IQ when it comes to assimilation of logic
cause and effect. He is very astute at memorization and modeling fine
grained details, but he is a dunce when it comes to distilling a
multivariate set to its generative essence (at least in this case and
maybe it is due to some confirmation bias).

Quote from: Armstrong
Yes we are in a major phase of a rise in civil unrest
against corruption that is inherent in all governments. This is part of
the separatist moves rising everywhere. Those that push CIA plots are
distracting the people from seeing we are in a global new trend. Ukraine
rose up because there was no future that way. We are seeing the youth rise
up in Southern Europe. More than 50% of the French want to leave France.
This is a giant upheaval against government. With the turn in the Cycle of
War in 2014, we should see an initial peak in 6 years,

Unfortunately Armstrong will pull his hair out (what little is remaining)
because every revolution will accomplish nothing, because this outcome was
designed and planned by the globalists. So Martin will help guide the
youth towards frustration and ultimately a desire for "human rights" and
an "international cooperation" solution before the end of this crisis in
2032. The globalists will win and the world will be enslaved in a top-down
world (and or regional) government.

And Martin for his good intentions will have helped to enslave mankind.

I hope he will be proud of his myopia and accomplishment. Should we send
him a NWO trophy then?

In the following blog post, Armstrong doesn't seem to know that in the
1980s all mass media ownership was consolidated into control of 50
families and I think now it is mostly in 5 families. He can't seem to
grasp that the globalists are in control of the media too.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/14/the-rise-against-corruption-is-also-inside-usa/


> I read all of your emails and you make excellent points.  I can't imagine
> Martin will ever be able to grasp it.
> I can see why your arguments about Russia/Putin being suckered into
> conflict are useful in your exchange with Martin who cannot fathom
> multiple layers of deception and compartmentalization.  In this context,
> the outcome is essentially the same whether foreign leaders are being
> tricked into economic and strategic moves that heighten international
> tensions sowing chaos, or whether the leaders are playing along but many
> or most of their subordinates are clueless.   The end result on the
> geopolitical stage is virtually the same.  The caveat being if a good
> percentage of the world's people knew that all conflicts were contrived,
> they would focus their ire and attention on the apex globalists rather
> than debating what the next "move" will be and whether or not actions
> taken are fair or legal, etc.
> There is also the strong hard-wired aspect of people allowing themselves
> to be divided into two warring camps, it's the lure of war, politics, and
> professional sports.  Gatekeepers have been setting up Putin to look like
> the a clever 007 underdog fighting the western powers (NWO) creating a
> scenario where many mostly awake people are actually rooting for
> Putin/Russia even though Russia has gone farther down the road of
> totalitarianism than the US.  The zombies following the MSM are either
> indifferent or think Putin is creating problems.  Both the MSM and the
> gatekeepers focus on the man, the personality, not so much the Russian
> government or people.  Classic psychological technique.  Obama vs Putin,
> you see pics on the net from the MSM of portraits of these two heads of
> state facing off nose to nose with Infowars running endless loops of
> fighter jet footage and talk of WWIII to increase the hysteria.   The most
> astute among the awake know that Obama doesn't make major military or
> economic decisions, that's done on another level and surely Putin takes
> orders as well.  Remarkably, nearly everyone forgets international bankers
> and their minions pull all of the strings setting up their big moves
> decades in advance.
> You give me a shred of hope your work and similar efforts will become the
> catalysts we need.
> I am disheartened over the level of ignorance in the general public.  It's
> painful to observe.
> Maybe you should contact our mother ship to beam us up and away from this
> insanity.
> Wink
717  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin adoption slowing; Coinbase + Bitpay is enough to make Bitcoin a fiat on: May 14, 2014, 10:09:53 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Not confiscation, rather illiquidity and declining relative value
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 14, 2014 6:06 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/13/will-government-confiscate-assets/

Quote from: Armstrong
There is no real precedent for confiscating everything
other than communism and the crazy antics of Maximinus, who they killed in
rather short-order. Nevertheless, the movement of assets like gold that
use to flow between nations may not be possible given the metal detectors
and the laws that presume money laundering if you try to take more than
$10,000 without telling the government.

Agreed. To clarify my prior message quoted below, my point is that
tangible assets will become immovable and illiquid, whilst they also
decline in relative value to Knowledge Age capital because although the
fiat value may rise, the relative value of the fiat economy will be
declining (imploding).

Stored value will be in the form of knowledge, i.e. knowledge capital
which is claim on the future production you can do with it.

Competing crypto-currencies will force stored capital to be devalued
relative to the transaction value. See this research paper:

On The Longest Chain Rule and Programmed Self-Destruction of Crypto
Currencies

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Private assets will also crash;  Armstrong doesn't know what TIME IT IS
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, May 13, 2014 10:16 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/13/understanding-the-new-era-we-face-no-more-general-terms-apply/

Armstrong is misreading his own computer model, because (per my prior
message) he fails to understand that:

1. Technology has shrunk the world thus all physical assets can be tracked
down by OECD+NSA cooperation. It will be extremely difficult to hide
tangible assets from the imploding industrial world taxman cometh.

2. Relevance (thus value) of stored capital is dying because individual
knowledge self-creation, self-publishing, and self-production is rising
which doesn't need much capital nor corporation coordination (Theory of
the Firm's relevance is dying).

3. Physical commerce is diminishing relative to electronic and virtual
services are rising. Heck people even expend a lot of time and effort on
virtual games, and thus this is an economic good now.


So while tangible assets will rise in fiat price, the fiat economy is
imploding exponentially while the hidden knowledge economy (will soon be
even more hidden in anonymous crypto-currency) is rising exponentially.

Thus all this stored capital running around like chairs on tossing around
on the deck of the Titanic searching for a safe home. There is no safe
home. Stored capital will decline in relative value.

This is the end of those fuckers. All those money managers can lick my
arse, they are going to lose relevance.

So now Armstrong's international capital flows model will become
increasingly irrelevant and blinded, if he doesn't find some way to
incorporate data from the new hidden paradigm shift.

Let those money managers buy ancient coins. It won't help them. WE DON'T
NEED THEIR STORED CLAIMS ON FUTURE LABOR. They are dinosaurs.

Checkmate.
718  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dark Enlightenment on: May 14, 2014, 10:09:01 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Not confiscation, rather illiquidity and declining relative value
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 14, 2014 6:06 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/13/will-government-confiscate-assets/

Quote from: Armstrong
There is no real precedent for confiscating everything
other than communism and the crazy antics of Maximinus, who they killed in
rather short-order. Nevertheless, the movement of assets like gold that
use to flow between nations may not be possible given the metal detectors
and the laws that presume money laundering if you try to take more than
$10,000 without telling the government.

Agreed. To clarify my prior message quoted below, my point is that
tangible assets will become immovable and illiquid, whilst they also
decline in relative value to Knowledge Age capital because although the
fiat value may rise, the relative value of the fiat economy will be
declining (imploding).

Stored value will be in the form of knowledge, i.e. knowledge capital
which is claim on the future production you can do with it.

Competing crypto-currencies will force stored capital to be devalued
relative to the transaction value. See this research paper:

On The Longest Chain Rule and Programmed Self-Destruction of Crypto
Currencies

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Private assets will also crash;  Armstrong doesn't know what TIME IT IS
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, May 13, 2014 10:16 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/13/understanding-the-new-era-we-face-no-more-general-terms-apply/

Armstrong is misreading his own computer model, because (per my prior
message) he fails to understand that:

1. Technology has shrunk the world thus all physical assets can be tracked
down by OECD+NSA cooperation. It will be extremely difficult to hide
tangible assets from the imploding industrial world taxman cometh.

2. Relevance (thus value) of stored capital is dying because individual
knowledge self-creation, self-publishing, and self-production is rising
which doesn't need much capital nor corporation coordination (Theory of
the Firm's relevance is dying).

3. Physical commerce is diminishing relative to electronic and virtual
services are rising. Heck people even expend a lot of time and effort on
virtual games, and thus this is an economic good now.


So while tangible assets will rise in fiat price, the fiat economy is
imploding exponentially while the hidden knowledge economy (will soon be
even more hidden in anonymous crypto-currency) is rising exponentially.

Thus all this stored capital running around like chairs on tossing around
on the deck of the Titanic searching for a safe home. There is no safe
home. Stored capital will decline in relative value.

This is the end of those fuckers. All those money managers can lick my
arse, they are going to lose relevance.

So now Armstrong's international capital flows model will become
increasingly irrelevant and blinded, if he doesn't find some way to
incorporate data from the new hidden paradigm shift.

Let those money managers buy ancient coins. It won't help them. WE DON'T
NEED THEIR STORED CLAIMS ON FUTURE LABOR. They are dinosaurs.

Checkmate.
719  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity? on: May 14, 2014, 10:07:33 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Not confiscation, rather illiquidity and declining relative value
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 14, 2014 6:06 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/13/will-government-confiscate-assets/

Quote from: Armstrong
There is no real precedent for confiscating everything
other than communism and the crazy antics of Maximinus, who they killed in
rather short-order. Nevertheless, the movement of assets like gold that
use to flow between nations may not be possible given the metal detectors
and the laws that presume money laundering if you try to take more than
$10,000 without telling the government.

Agreed. To clarify my prior message quoted below, my point is that
tangible assets will become immovable and illiquid, whilst they also
decline in relative value to Knowledge Age capital because although the
fiat value may rise, the relative value of the fiat economy will be
declining (imploding).

Stored value will be in the form of knowledge, i.e. knowledge capital
which is claim on the future production you can do with it.

Competing crypto-currencies will force stored capital to be devalued
relative to the transaction value. See this research paper:

On The Longest Chain Rule and Programmed Self-Destruction of Crypto
Currencies

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Private assets will also crash;  Armstrong doesn't know what TIME IT IS
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, May 13, 2014 10:16 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/13/understanding-the-new-era-we-face-no-more-general-terms-apply/

Armstrong is misreading his own computer model, because (per my prior
message) he fails to understand that:

1. Technology has shrunk the world thus all physical assets can be tracked
down by OECD+NSA cooperation. It will be extremely difficult to hide
tangible assets from the imploding industrial world taxman cometh.

2. Relevance (thus value) of stored capital is dying because individual
knowledge self-creation, self-publishing, and self-production is rising
which doesn't need much capital nor corporation coordination (Theory of
the Firm's relevance is dying).

3. Physical commerce is diminishing relative to electronic and virtual
services are rising. Heck people even expend a lot of time and effort on
virtual games, and thus this is an economic good now.


So while tangible assets will rise in fiat price, the fiat economy is
imploding exponentially while the hidden knowledge economy (will soon be
even more hidden in anonymous crypto-currency) is rising exponentially.

Thus all this stored capital running around like chairs on tossing around
on the deck of the Titanic searching for a safe home. There is no safe
home. Stored capital will decline in relative value.

This is the end of those fuckers. All those money managers can lick my
arse, they are going to lose relevance.

So now Armstrong's international capital flows model will become
increasingly irrelevant and blinded, if he doesn't find some way to
incorporate data from the new hidden paradigm shift.

Let those money managers buy ancient coins. It won't help them. WE DON'T
NEED THEIR STORED CLAIMS ON FUTURE LABOR. They are dinosaurs.

Checkmate.
720  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin adoption slowing; Coinbase + Bitpay is enough to make Bitcoin a fiat on: May 14, 2014, 09:02:59 AM
Cross-posting...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6698221#msg6698221

I have asked about the bloat on the chain before, and the consensus was that with the visible competition enforcing a 10% tax on mining to afford some privacy, then the storage space used to hold the blockchain would be a much less cost. I would like to know much more about this though, because the blockchain is noticeably larger in this protocol by a lot.

The issue is not only the cost of the storage. There is the download speed also. And other complex factors. A tax is probably also going to have Tragedy of the Commons effects, as I explained in my numerous discussions of why transaction fees will never work for Bitcoin in the long-run. There are other articles out now about these by others. Such discussion will take us off on tangents I don't feel like having right now.

Someone from your group private messaged me and ask I provide references.

Here is the recent article I was referring to:

http://radar.oreilly.com/2014/04/bitcoin-what-happens-when-the-miners-pack-up-their-gear.html

I raised similar issues last year as follows.

Transactions Withholding Attack

"Spiraling Transaction Fees Destruction" of bitcoin (Transactions fees are a Tragedy of the Commons)

Well I see as January 2014, others below started to expound upon what I had explained in November 2013 at the threads given by the quoted links above.

On The Longest Chain Rule and Programmed
Self-Destruction of Crypto Currencies


Quote from: Nicolas T. Courtois
5.4 The Increasing Fees Argument
The question of why fees are not enough to support miners has been brilliantly
explained by Robert Scams in [20].

The argument is that basically sooner or later "defationary currencies" and
"growth currencies" will be in competition. Then all the other things being more
or less in equilibrium, in defationary currencies most of the pro t from appre-
ciation will be received by holders of current coins through their appreciation.
Therefore less pro t will be made by miners in these currencies. However min-
ers control the network and they will impose higher fees. In contrast in growth
coins, there will be comparatively more seigniorage pro t and it will be spent on
hashing. Miners will make good pro ts and transaction fees will be lower. Thus
year after year people will prefer growth currencies due to lower transaction fees.
Overall we see that this is crucial question of how the cost of the infrastruc-
ture necessary for the maintain a digital currency is split between new adopters
(which pay for it through appreciation) and users (which pay through transac-
tion fees. It is obvious that there exists an optimal equilibrium between these
two sources of income, and that there is no reason why the creator of bitcoin
would get it right, some adjustments will be necessary in the future

Btw, the above linked paper is a siren call for strictly CPU only alt-coins, with constant perpetual debasement and 0 tx fees, and which have some mechanism to limit pool sizes.

The rest of the point of the above paper regarding tx timestampes is really a flawed ad hoc way of attempting to achieve the decentralization that the prior sentence would achieve more correctly.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1405.0534.pdf#page=29

Quote from: Nicolas T. Courtois
A big question is whether timestamps are needed at all, see Section 7.3. An
alternative to timestamps could be various pure consensus mechanisms without
timestamps by which numerous network nodes would certify that that they have
seen one transaction earlier than another transaction. In this paper we take the
view that they should be present by default and further con rmed by (the same)
sorts of additional mechanisms.
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