alexey14, you have made 3 posts in a row, posting multiple times in a row goes against the forum rules. Back to the topic, i think you should lock it now as it is turning very ugly, a lot of users do not believe the story you have posted, and truly it sounds like a made-up story, while you are standing your ground that it is true, so instead of all the tantrums, just lock it, except you're enjoying it, so up to you.
I dont care about them, the thing is they are here to promote their signature but nothing else, They need money bcz their family is hungery My man, you are the one who has opened a thread/discussion in this section of the forum about a possible very serious security thread in one of the most widespread hardware wallet brands in the world, you cannot just pretend there will not be skeptical people if you have not had posted/shared evidence with us from the beginning. So you should a a little bit of a thicker skin and learn how to take valid skepticism from people on the internet. By the way, you complain about how you are being called by one member of this forum who has a good reputation, and yet to sink to the level of insulting him and his family for alledged poverty, which is wrong. Nobody chooses to be poor.  If you have further evidence this will be news which will be featured all around internet and you will get your fifteen minutes of fame, otherwise nothing will go beyond speculation. You choose. Tomorrow I will Post Update 3, it will be most important update , it answer lot of questions.
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alexey14, you have made 3 posts in a row, posting multiple times in a row goes against the forum rules. Back to the topic, i think you should lock it now as it is turning very ugly, a lot of users do not believe the story you have posted, and truly it sounds like a made-up story, while you are standing your ground that it is true, so instead of all the tantrums, just lock it, except you're enjoying it, so up to you.
I dont care about them, the thing is they are here to promote their signature but nothing else, They need money bcz their family is hungery
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I will blcok, ignore anyone who talk about about if im a thief or not... You are a thief. He is not a thief, the coins never existed except in his fantasy. Come on all of you should know better then to keep feeding the troll and his BS. I mean it is fun and all to watch the stream of BS that comes from him but it's getting old at this point. ...I can go to Airport Auctions where I can bid for some lost luggage. If I win one and find a laptop containing a Bitcoin Wallet with Funds in it and other personal information of the victim, it does NOT make it alright for me to steal it or use their information with out their consent....
That is kind of a murky area at the moment: Most places have interesting laws about that. But for the most part, yes if you buy something with data on (drive) or in it (say a file cabinet) then that data and any value from it is yours. Barring copyright and stuff like that. Kind of like if you buy a safe at a garage sale and it's filled with cash, that cash is yours. But, obviously things like that will vary based on local laws.
Is it right to take their BTC or their PII? No, not really but.... Is it legal? Big unknown at the moment. Using PII to do things is 100% illegal. But; if you have a BTC wallet on a laptop that obviously has no security since you (the buyer) got into it after you bought it at an auction and then having no password on their wallet to send funds. At that point is it any different then if they had an envelope of cash in their bag? This is not the post / place to be discussing it. But it is an interesting question as to where everyone draws the line. -Dave If this thread is troll in yur small brain and coins are only in my fantasy, why you keep sucking balls here?? Gtfo You are biggest spammer here who troll here for only a few cent due to your scam signature By the way, if ur family is poor go spam somwhere else to promote ur scam profile.
A thief wouldn’t openly create a topic on the internet about something they supposedly stole. I quote: My only complaint is why there wasn't 3 million $ in the wallet. Because honestly, if there had been 3M $ in the wallet, I wouldn't be here sharing these stories with you, and you would never have heard about them. Your regret is that you weren't in a position to steal big amounts of money and disappear with it. I repeat: you are not to be trusted as you have explained you have no problem stealing from others. Legally, I have every right to access the funds on my own wallet. I legally purchased the wallet, generated the seed, and found funds on it. That’s not theft, it’s basic ownership. There is no bitcoin in your sister's Ledger. There is no bitcoin in any Ledger. There is no bitcoin in any other hardware, software, or any other type of wallet. All coins are only digital representations on the blockchain. Wallets contain public and private keys. The lie that you told us here is that your sister generated a seed from scratch and noticed certain assets in her portfolio after which the two of you supposedly stole said assets. Despite the Ledger being your sister's (if she in fact owns one), the keys that allow you to spend those coins aren't yours. Hence, the crypto isn't yours. Someone else generated those addresses and funded them. It's their money and their crypto. You are a halfwit for not understanding the difference. Your sister would have only found them by a miracle if the story was true. I will blcok, ignore anyone who talk about about if im a thief or not... You are a thief. First of all Thief is your mother who sawllowed you from toilet. Second, i dont need to explain everything for a fuktarded like u. 1 cent or 1 billion, its all about private ley that i got and thats not ur bussiness.
Dear mods, if this person allowed to use rude words, I would do the same ok?? I made so much in crypto , and thats not your business even. Nothing says I am so rich, you have no idea than when you claim that you have stolen $160 worth of crypto that belongs to someone else. In this case, at least, you are only a thief in your dreams. In real life, you are probably also a low-life scum and thief. I can post TXID of all doge transaction and purchase date of my sister new nano x Blockchain data is free and public. Feel free to post the TXIDs from satoshi if you want. No one cares. My experience with finding funds in a wallet I legally purchased does not make me a thief. That's correct because the story is made up and you are lying. But in a similar highly unlikely case where someone were to find a seed collection, those coins don't belong to you and its immoral to take them. Not that a filthy little rat like you would know the difference. The only low life here is you who suck cock and spam for a few cents. Suck that dick harder, this fucker spammed over 2884 time here and now he find my thread to post more spam so he make a few cent for his poor family. Gtfo
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I made so much in crypto , and thats not your business even. Nothing says I am so rich, you have no idea than when you claim that you have stolen $160 worth of crypto that belongs to someone else. In this case, at least, you are only a thief in your dreams. In real life, you are probably also a low-life scum and thief. I can post TXID of all doge transaction and purchase date of my sister new nano x Blockchain data is free and public. Feel free to post the TXIDs from satoshi if you want. No one cares. My experience with finding funds in a wallet I legally purchased does not make me a thief. That's correct because the story is made up and you are lying. But in a similar highly unlikely case where someone were to find a seed collection, those coins don't belong to you and its immoral to take them. Not that a filthy little rat like you would know the difference. Reported for personal attacks and harassment. Disagreeing is one thing, but resorting to insults and baseless accusations crosses the line. A thief wouldn’t openly create a topic on the internet about something they supposedly stole. this forum isn’t a court. Educate yourself before making any more baseless claims. Legally, I have every right to access the funds on my own wallet. If you’re still stuck on this ridiculous idea that I’m a thief, I suggest you go talk to a lawyer and ask them about the legality of this situation I legally purchased the wallet, generated the seed, and found funds on it. That’s not theft, it’s basic ownership. get some legal advice so you don’t continue embarrassing yourself. It’s clear you’re here to promote your scam link in your signature and distract from my thread. I will blcok, ignore anyone who talk about about if im a thief or not, or it its legal or Ilegal, this thread is only about the subject and nothing else . You should go talk with a lawyer.
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Can we stop feeding the Troll OP Some other great things from him: Have a plan to sell some of my crypto, Now I can store with USDT, USDC, DAI, BUT There are serious question: Both USDT and USDC can blacklist any address without any reason, So I dont think this is safe way to store 1 Million $ on them. USDT is big nowdays So what If SEC Sue USDT? in that case maybe USDT lose Value. DAI, I think DAI is not safe Can lose value 1 day. So what is your suggestion? .
I MADE 18000 $ IN LAST 48 HOUR, WITH XRP. FUCK YEAH. IS NANO X SAFE? HOW ABOUT PAPER WALLET?
Agreed woth you. BSV can hit 1000$ easily.
And so on, those are just a few highlights. OP is just a troll looking for attention. Ignore and move on. Or feed the troll, up to you. -Dave Your comment suggests you're more interested in Promoting your scam in your signature and trolling here. So you have no right to tell me im trolling here, and I made so much in crypto , and thats not your business even. I can post TXID of all doge transaction and purchase date of my sister new nano x, And even share 24 seeds here since I dont use them as proof. People here can believe me or not, up to you. Ledger has done many wrong things lately that they deserve to be criticized for, but I don't believe this story of yours. Such seed collisions are incredibly unlikely to the point of almost being impossible. If you told us that you were struck by lightning every day for a year and you are ok, then I would rather believe that than this story.
I could be wrong, but it seems like you are more of an attention-seeker than anything else. Well, you would have no problems being a thief judging by your posts here. I don't believe you and your sister found anything, but you did express a willingness to steal $3 million, let alone $160 if given the opportunity. Thieves and scammers shouldn't be trusted.
I am not sure what you think you will gain here, though. Little to none, I think.
My experience with finding funds in a wallet I legally purchased does not make me a thief. The wallet and seed phrases were acquired through legitimate means. If you have doubts, Instead of writing stupid things, direct your complaints to ledger.
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That's impossible no one experienced this before with Ledger. Unless its already have a wallet own by the previous owner.
I'm wondering if she bought the ledger as 2nd hand-used and maybe she didn't generate a new seed phrase and the wallet already have generated wallet own by the previous owner. That's possible than just created a new wallet from the ledger and luckily found doge coin.
This device was purchased from an official reseller and had not been used by anyone else before. It came in a brand new, unopened box and was completely sealed.
160$ is not big money for me. I was shocked, even if there were only 10 cents in my wallet. My only complaint is why there wasn't 3 million $ in the wallet. Because honestly, if there had been 3M $ in the wallet, I wouldn't be here sharing these stories with you, and you would never have heard about them.
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Update: I found another coin in the 24 seed, 45$ worth of BabyDogee So overally: 120$ worth of Doge 45$ Babydoge I can see first transaction to the wallet made by August 2023. Its clear someone have the same 24 seed. I see Only 2 option now: 1. 24 seed generated completely Randomly and Both device got the same seed. But its very unlikely 2. Ledger use pre generated 24 seed and probably due to an error both device got the same 24 seed. This senraio is more likly to me. But again I have no any evidence.
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Hello everyone, My sister bought a new Ledger Nano x and Today she opened it, She generated 24 seed using nano x for the first time, then she added doge coin using ledger live,Then she noticed there is already about 1000 free doge on that address, how is it even possible?? By the way she sold all of that doge, but I told her to not use that 24 seed. Can anyone explain this???
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Funny thing is, those who are laughing at me can't even see the price of Bitcoin in March 2020. here is proof:  Coinmarketcap will not show you the excat price. you have 4 start in your profile and you dont even know the basic yet. Wow, congratulations! You just proved that you are a moron! You called someone out for not knowing the basics, yet you dont seem to understand a fundamental concept like long wicks on a chart (on a single exchange)? Are you Fuckretarded? That wicks existed on all top 300 exchange, with Billions VOL.
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Now BTC is 73K and everyone understand Im right.
Right in what? you were create an absurd story of corrupt doctors to spread Corona virus, so how to verify if your claims are right or wrong? People weren't laugh to you if buying Bitcoin price at $5K was bad, I'm sure most people know how valuable is Bitcoin and didn't surprise when Bitcoin keep making new ATH. 4 years ago, Bitcoin price was already above $20k. When it dropped to $3k - $4k? I didn't see the Bitcoin price below $10k in 2020. I think you forget to check the price history, dude.
There was, the lowest was at $5K~  Funny thing is, those who are laughing at me can't even see the price of Bitcoin in March 2020. here is proof:  Coinmarketcap will not show you the excat price. you have 4 start in your profile and you dont even know the basic yet.
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Lord why am I still coming to this. Bitcoin wasn't the only thing that was affected by the Covid news It was worldwide In fact Bitcoin was one of the biggest gainers from the advent Many people started switching to Bitcoin and Banks started showing why they are not the safest to keep funds by liquidating. News comes Weak hand panic sell Strong hands hold and buy more Today is a proof of why having a strong hand in Bitcoin is the best way to really profit from it. Even The FTX debacle Many sold their holdings to strong hands or whales So Covid effect isn't the first nor the last news that would affect Bitcoin or stocks across the globes price. I agree stock market was also affected by coivd but main target and focus was Bitcoin, digital gold.
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BTC is digital gold, Stoling Millions of BTC from people was definitely worth to making and spreading covid. Thats what you dont understand.
I'm lost How did Covid lead to stealing of People's BTC. Reduction in the value of BTC Doesn't reduce the unit one has. Covid Crash is a famous event in history, On that day, the price of Bitcoin dropped more than 50% in less than a few hours and many people sold it and In fact, they gave their bitcoins to whales as a gift.
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I agreed, BTC rised very hard after Covid.
4 Years ago they called me crazy psycho. Crypto whales created covid to make the price go down and buy back cheaper? Yes, you're crazy. Since we all know the virus came out of the lab in Wuhan, China, are you saying that the virologists who work there are bitcoin whales? I don't know where this thread belongs, but it will end in the bin, or off-topic. You need to use your brain regardless how small it is, If people knew in March 2020 that the price of Bitcoin would reach $69,000 within a few months, would they have sold it?
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I still find your claim implausible. Bitcoin is not that important that it would warrant such drastic measures that in the long run had no effect. You stating like whales is an organization. They came together hired doctors to spread covid So they can buy cheaper Doesn't this seem too Hollywood like to you? There are different way to cause a temporary dip in the market. The biggest is News, that would hit those with weak hands. So I won't buy to your claim that covid was created to reduce BTC price. Now BTC is 73K and everyone understand Im right. BTC $73K still doesn't correlate with your view. I never said With the way your claim was coined I don't think it would be easy for any to take it serious It feels too delusional. Sorry for the word usage though BTC is digital gold, Stoling Millions of BTC from people was definitely worth to making and spreading covid. Thats what you dont understand.
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I agreed, BTC rised very hard after Covid.
4 Years ago they called me crazy psycho.
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In early days of Covid I wrote this: Everyone laughed at me Btc was 3k$. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233202.msg54038680#msg54038680Now BTC is 73K and everyone understand Im right. I also wrote other topics which is strange for many in the first day but later they will understand the truth. Covid Crash is a famous event in history, On that day, the price of Bitcoin dropped more than 50% in less than a few hours and many people sold it and In fact, they gave their bitcoins to whales as a gift. If people knew in March 2020 that the price of Bitcoin would reach $69,000 within a few months, would they have sold it? Funny thing is, those who are laughing at me can't even see the price of Bitcoin in March 2020.here is proof: 
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I need to make 10 Million BTC Wallet Per Day ( dont ask why ), creating 10M wallet manually Take so much time, How I can eaily make 10 Million BTC Wallet Per Day ? FASTEST Way? Each wallet must be created with complatly a new Private key.
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U.S dollar which is a stable currency by which the value of Bitcoin is been pegged to it. That's why the value of Bitcoin is always given in U.S dollar
Bitcoin is NOT pegged to USD, Only stable coins pegged to USD. People like you who spam 24/7 should be banned from this froum.
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How US Government created 15M wallet? creating BTC wallet is very easy, you can create btc wallet with 1 click only, to make 15M wallet you need 15M click which can be done by an automation bot or just a few code. US Government Always control the market and BTC price, they use Mass payment system so they can transfer any amount of BTC automaticly from all 15M wallet easily.
from what I read on how you explain creating a 15 M wallet by needing 15 M clicks, is thought you didn't understand anything about bitcoin. If you don't understand anything about you say, better to not clarify in what you don't understand it, because it can makes you clear enough to try spreading a Hoax or fake news. also, you can create 15M wallet address by 1 click on iancoleman  I think you dont know what 12 seed words are and what a BTC wallet is, generating 15M rows is complately diiferent than generating 15M diiferent private key. 15M * 24 seed words. Dont spread wrong information. Beside, click was an exmaple, I said 15M wallet can easily be created by a few code. Big difference
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