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1  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Altcoin Di Exchanger Poloniex, Bittrex, Yobit dan C-cex on: October 28, 2016, 12:32:42 AM
koin ap yg bakalan UP mingu2 ini sampai 2 minggu kedepan ?


Nga bisa di pastikan coin yg bakalan naik minggu ini tp kalau prediksi sy waves dan iconomi yg bagus coin untuk saat ini di beli. waves tiap hari trendnya naik.
Klo di poloniex kira2 pnya pndangan coin yg brpluang up gk gan? sjk minggu kmrin smpe skrg blm nyebur trading sm skli neh krn sy lht coin yg list di poloniex kyknya pd trend turun

yang itu sy sebutkan di atas gan ETH kalau di poloniex dan waves di bittrex
tp kalau harga btc lagi naik gini mendingan hold dlu beli altcoin karena biasanya akan turun harganya karena banyak yg jual.

Iya gan semakin hari semakin turun aja nih koin2 di Polo, order sell ane malah down 20-50% dari waktu ane beli.
Apakah bakal naik lagi ga ya gan ? Huh

Hari ini harga ETH makin melorot gan lebih baik tahan aja dulu buat buy tunggu kondisi btc stabil terus kalau harga ETH msh turun baru saatnya beli, Sy yakin ETH tetap akan naik lg cuma butuh waktu aja.
Sama kayak saya gan, lebih baik di hold dulu, sebagai coin terbesar kedua setelah bitcoin saya yakin kalau harga eth tidak bisa di dump, selain itu meski kemarin2 ada error turunnya pun tidak drastis.
2  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: ★★★ Semuanya tentang EPL 2016 - 2017 - Mari kita diskusi ★★★ on: October 28, 2016, 12:22:34 AM
Pertandingan besar  Chelsea vs Manchester united  Shocked
Dari posisi kadang chelsea lebih diuntungkan mendapat dukungan penuh di stadion namun dari segi skill kalian pasti setuju 11/11
sekarang tinggal kita lihat keahlian dari masing-masing pelatih siapa yang paling jitu, morinho dulu pernah jadi pelatih chelsea tapi sekarang pasti beda hampir 90 % komposisi pemain berubah artinya morinho gak bisa baca karakter pemain secara detail. jadi aku menjagokan Chelsea menang  Cool
Salah satu partai chelsea vs. Mu yg paling bagus terjadi thn 2013, ketika itu mu menang 2:3. Selebihnya bisa saya katakan sangat jelek, karena membosankan.

2 tim ini terkenal sula bertahan, tapi srmoga aja bisa menarik dan yg paling penting jangan ngikutin arsenal & spurs dgn skor kacamata

parah gan bukan kacamata tapi dihajar habis MU oleh chelsea sampai 4 - 0 gitu  Cheesy

PR berat buat Mou tuh gan

jose mourinho sebenarnya bukan pelatih yang terlalu special
di chelsea 2x kena pecat karena prestasi chelsea yang buruk
di real madrid kena pecat sekali

dan di manchester united dengan pretasi yang angin2an seperti ini, kalau di akhir musim bearad di luar 4 besar, dan tanpa meraih 1 piala pun
kemungkinan besar akan kena pecat juga
betul tuh gan man united sekarang masih labil belum konsisten dalam kemenangan wahaha
Semoga aja lawan burnley bisa menang, kok ibrahimovic dah lama gak bikin gol ya? Kalo masih gak nyetak gol lagi di pertandingan ini mendingan rooney aja lah yang balik jadi striker lagi. Aku masih yakin kalo rooney masih bisa diandalkan. Masih berharap city imbang atau kalah lagi biar segera jatuh dr posisi 1
3  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Free electricity == big advantage? on: October 27, 2016, 03:43:21 PM
Electricity is the first factor to get profit or loss when we mining. After I analysis in my country (indonesia), If the price not more 7 cents, we will get big profit. If 8-15 we draw, but if more 16 cents we must turn off for mining. If the prices more than $800, I will turn again for mining
4  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Cheapest exchange(s) to borrow/long bitcoin on: October 26, 2016, 12:22:10 PM
Title pretty much self-explanatory.

I'm looking for the cheapest exchanges to borrow and go long bitcoin.
The funds don't have to withdrawable.

Thanks in advance!


I think many exchanger can you choice. Yobit, poloniex, bittrex, and more is very recommended. I don' know what is coin that you want exchange to bitcoin or you will buy first?
5  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you use a bot for trading? on: October 26, 2016, 12:05:37 PM
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I tried to use a bot, im really not that good at trading though.

I would love to get more into it. But I feel lost with trading.

If you don't have knowledge, then try to learn basics first before jumping into trading because even with small mistake people can lose a lot of money in trading. Also using bots are a very dangerous thing to do. Just imagine if those bots are full prove then why developer will sell them to others instead he/she can make profit from them right?
The biggest problem for peoples or developer if trying bots is they not have limit with market. Trading is open for all so we can't predict the prices anytime. I think best way for us is never use bots for trading.
6  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: October 26, 2016, 11:58:05 AM
Yes starting very small would be just fine, since you want to start "trading" that's really nice. The strategies you will learn it from successful traders here, just stick to your plan in starting to trade so you won''t be confused on different ideas presented to you here. Eventually keep on doing trades until you will be much more well rehearsed in the process of trading.
7  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Why people don't like coinbase? on: October 26, 2016, 11:36:24 AM
I don't have the feeling that people don't like coinbase. But depends on experience they have. Some of them had problems with customer support or bad experience with freezing accounts which could be very annoying.
Not perfect wallet in the world, if we like a wallet maybe some peoples don't like. As my experience using coinbase I never got the problem and my bitcoin is safe. If my balance is more 1 btc, I use vault option.
8  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Xapo or blockchain? on: October 26, 2016, 11:22:42 AM
For save and secure my bitcoin I use both. I separate my bitcoin about 75% to blockchain, and 25% again I save to xapo and coinbase. For me, blockchain is more secure and fast than xapo or coinbase.

You got it, blockchain is the most secured bitcoin wallet provider. But of course we are not the same, we have our own perspective on why we are going to like ones bitcoin wallet provider.

But for me, Blockchain would be the best even though I tried to use xapo but I stopped already I hated their 60 second cool down for security.

Unlike blockchain's email verification.
I still use xapo because i often sent and received bitcoin with small balance and free to transfer. And i still collect bitcoin with playing xapo faucets, because many faucets that only use for xapo wallet.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this true? beginners in gambling are the luckiest? on: October 26, 2016, 10:25:02 AM
I don't think beginners luck is true in that beginners win more when they first start playing but I do think beginners will win more often in tricky situations (Think poker with someone bluffing really well but a noob not realising and calling an all in) because they don't play by in a predictable or standard way.
Gambling is not a matter of luck, beginner or professional, all have same chance to winning and losing. If there are any beginners who wins it is probably one of the attraction for many more in gambling. If you don't know gambling I recommend to never gamble. Save your money to investments, savings or buying bitcoin.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 26, 2016, 10:10:10 AM
My main reason to gamble is making money which means profit not fun. I don't see any fun in gambling when I am serious to make some money by letting my money on stake to loose that. Most of the time I gamble for fun and some small portion is like a mxture of both fun and profit after what I am with good profit and further play with money of profit.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 26, 2016, 10:01:34 AM
If you gamble everyday then yes you will lose in the long run. There's no denying in that. The house will always be the more profitable party in gambling. This is why it's best to gamble just for entertainment and when you can afford it.
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13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 25, 2016, 10:00:11 PM
If I was rich because of the play of gambling, I will remain a gamble but with very little amount for my gratitude to gambling because it has made me wealthy. But if I were rich not because gambling game, for sure I will stop in gambling, because it could have been the thoughts of ambition alone is too high to do gambling and finally I lost all my wealth. Because if your ambitions are already possessing a mind all the way done to get the victory, but gambling need peace of mind and should remain consistent. If using the ambitions will certainly get the defeat.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 25, 2016, 09:50:22 PM
There are allot of people who got rich by gambling but are they still rich. There are more people who could say to you that you dont must go to gamble. There more people who got rich and gambles everything away so look further without gambling your life would be many times better.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 25, 2016, 09:44:55 PM
May gambling is fun because of there is a trill because you are betting with your money and interesting for make profit , but when you lose money, it is annoying and there are many ways to find the fun gambling, but many of us like to get easy money, and for sure gambling is the best and easiest method to earn money.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 25, 2016, 09:41:47 PM
Do not ever try that field as there you will not get any profit, and the other thing is that you will lose your time and energy etc. and for money I will say that here you can see a number of thread where people are saying that they are negative or neutral in profit.
17  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Semuanya tentang pinjam bitcoin atau Lending on: October 25, 2016, 03:06:51 PM

paling enak kalau mau lending atau meminjamkan bitcoin
di bitcointalk forum section lending, dana aman pakai escrow pakai colletaral, mininium coletaral full member above, atau senior above
dana minjam maximal 50% dari estimasi price, no negatif trust, quality postingan minium fair, aman tanpa dag dig dug
dan rata2 return 10%/minggu besar return nya dan aman dana nya

yg penting ada jaminannya aja itu sudah ckp untuk di berikan pinjaman
walau newbie sekalipun asal jaminannya sesuai aja jumlah pinjaman yang di inginkan toh walau kabur nga masalah karena ada jaminannya yg bs di jual kembali.
Pengalaman aja nih, iseng iseng coba daftar di bitlending lumayan ribet banget verifikasinya, dari email, nomor hp, identitas, sosial media, hingga verifikasi alamat. Dan yang paling susah adalah mendapatkan referensi dari members yg  lain. Bunga yg ditawarkan cukup mencekik yakni di atas 5% perbulan.
18  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: October 25, 2016, 03:00:13 PM
harga bitcoin di exchange luar saat ini rata rata berada di angka 650USD . sementara rates harga di exchange VIP sekarang berada di rates harga 8.5 jutaan .
Wah beberapa hari ini saya tidak Ol tiba-tiba harga bitcoin sudah 8.5 jt. Ada pengaruh apa ya agan2 kok bisa sampai segitu harganya di VIP ?

Klau pengaruh palngan cuma minat para bitcoiner aja gan beli bitcoin kemarin sehingga harga naik tinggi
mungkin banyak yg beli buat tahun kedepannya harga bs jadi naik lg.
dilihat dari chart grafik transaksi di exchange lokal tetap sedikit . pastinya exchange luar yang mengalami kenaikan cukup tinggi . sehingga saat ini rates harga di VIP tertinggal cukup jauh .
Gak jauh juga lah, paling kisaran belasan ribu atau maksimal hanya 2 usd ajalah, kalau dibandingkan dengan exchanger lokal lainnya sepeerti triv, kayaknya rates vip jauh lebih tinggi
19  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: October 25, 2016, 02:55:44 PM
Yeah, now it is a normal currency and everyone, individual and companies are adopting it as a normal currency for their business and other transactions, So you have now believe on bitcoin, it is a virtual currency, the only problem is unstable price for that you have to learn trade to be benefited with it.
20  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: October 25, 2016, 02:36:29 PM
Bitcoin is actually worth for me now but most especially in the future, This is a matter of saving more money in the future unlike the currencies that we have now their value are fast enough to go down which makes it difficult for us to save. Somehow Bitcoins value in the future is too high to compare, I have to study more about it.
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