I wouldn't be holding your coin since 2016, if i didn't see value in it, but 20% is too much. If am wrong about your financial gains from boolberry, then i apologize but i still think that 20% is excess.
I would agree with you 5 years ago (when I was just 1 year expirience in blockchain development). Now, after I've seen all this interesting and finally dead projects, after I personally spend years for building technology I strongly disagree. Anyway, I respect your position, just wanted to ask, can you please give an example of the successful alive project which did develop their code themselves and doesn't have premine. Wondering, how they got listed during past 2 years on any of the top 30 exchanges where listing fees are 100k$+ I don't mean old times when Boolberry got listed on Poloneix for free without even my request, I talk about present time. (Please don't put as example Bitcoin) Monero obviously. Yes they started with cryptonote but they have diverged significantly, adding lmdb, ringct, bulletproof, etc. A more recent example with truly ground up development would be Grin. Also Bitcoin  Anyway, I think Grin is the example that meets your criteria the best. Monero is the wrong example because: * we don't know if they would launch it with Premine of not, because the didn't launch it. It was not their decision. * they benefited from other's people work. Let's say they were given new technology(or taken) and then got a lot of attention and support because the tech was good. Now imagine that Monero team were doing research and implementation years before the launch - and answer to yourself - if they would launch it with no reward? Grin is a good example, agree. We following this project and wish success to it. I'm not sure about how development organized there, but we have full-time employees and have to be sure then we can pay salaries every month, just hard to do it on donations. Know it from my own experience. Grin 😕 Interesting huh!!!! |
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Cross-posting Jed's Reddit post for all you old timers who still get your news from Bitcointalk  History in the making with a Zoidberg Interview by MineyourbizTomorrow will be the first ever live interview of Crypto_Zoidberg author of Cryptonote. Mineyourbiz and NrdGrl007 will be live at 10 am pst on https://www.youtube.com/c/SethEstradaOfficial/videos hope to see you there! Can't wait! +1 |
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As I mentioned earlier, basically I see few major options:
1. Add more listing(s)
2. Do development and take some improvements from Zano.
3. Hire some marketing group
4. Mix of 1/2/3
I personally think that more listings won't change the picture a lot since the project may look not actively developed. Marketing may help. And development of course, but I guess I think so because I'm developer.
Opinions?
i think in rather reasonable averages (absolute rationality does not exist for me), so i try. 1. medium of three listings (at this time), at least two, preferably not more than four. I know stex and btc-alpha at this time. So i see a light pressure for a third one. (I like coinex, altilly, and southxchange) 2. not enough expertise for this. Economically the code has to deescalate deflections (example is the heavily fluctuant historic decred stake reward after launch, or the heavy fluctuation of transfer fees of the bitcoin (NOT their amount), they are a sign of deficiency in coding decisions), and to give small instances a light advantage to big instances (in mining/minting for example). 3. In my opinion less important, better is recommendation. If done then be neutral, concentrate on Boolberries advantages, and never make poor other competing crypto-currencies. 1./ Exchanges- Stex & Alpha KYC so I'd recommend a non KYC for a privacy coin like TradeOgre (Listings by community requests) or maybe Qtrade another non KYC that only lists quality/heavy developed coins/projects or any others that have genuine volume and no required daily trading volume that only increases volume bots etc... 2. I think we have covered boss, so the fork choice rule ( https://github.com/hyle-team/docs/blob/master/zano/PoS_Analysis_and_improvements_proposal.pdf) PT II: Fluctiation of fee's vs BTC/cost basis/weight, not sure I'm understanding your question, appreciate more info or feedback, thx. 3. Well this might be the bit I break your heart on BBR, much like me you seem to have made an emotional attachment to BBR, yet it's simply a version of the same guy's code. So we started with the original CN protocol and design, then we had boolberry with major improvements over and above any other CN at that time including @alias, pruning of blockchain, a GUI (yes back then it was a rarity, well for some anyway). Now we have zano with asynchronous core multi-sig, escrow, E-Commerce on chain, & many more future improvements and enhancements, all made a lot easier and streamlined having the original coders continue to improve their own code rather than have 100 contributors that don't add any value or improvements. Zano is no "poor other competing crypto-currency" you could not be further from reality. It's leaps and bounds better, most likely to go on to spur another 300+ forks in a few years or 6 months by the needy needing another turn! |
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Interested in mining $ZANO ? Our devs have made it a very simple process to solo mine with a built in stratum like server, this option negates the need to mine to a #centralized pool. You can learn more about this here: https://docs.zano.org/docs/mining-guide |
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As announced previously, one of the things we are working on is Multi Lingual ssupport in the ZANO GUI, We currently need Chinese, Japanese and Korean translated. To get it accomplished we are offering 2x the original bounty reward. For more details DM or join Discord: https://discord.gg/UkGWbg for further details, thanks |
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Interview with @cryptojungle: With all the recent talk around privacy coins, we had a pleasure of hosting the creators of the original CryptoNote codebase - $ZANO. "Keep following ZANO. The upcoming features are potentially game-changing". Enjoy 👊 https://t.co/Oa9I9rOYMG?amp=1 |
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"Become a Masternode yourself Do not WASTE your time on something not valuable!" lol   |
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Forwarded from discord: zach (mercuriex.com)Today at 4:56 PM
Important community update:
MercuriEX has updated to the latest node(v.38) and updated our implementation to allow for deposit address reuse. Anyone that sent multiple deposits to the same address before will now see those deposits reflected in their balance. Thanks everyone for your patience and for understanding that we are doing our best to keep up with all the changes.
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Poloniex.com is withholding approx 42000 of my BBR. How long do we have for the swap, and could the period of 1:1 be extended for such special cases ?
If there is anyone else in my situation with Poloniex, do say so. I have tried to withdraw these BBR for the last 3 years and they have simply ignored my withdrawal requests AND tickets regarding BBR, while responding to others. Extremely fishy behaviour that.... i will say later what it felt like, if the problems are not solved. I am still hopeful they will see the light. They are now "investigating" . SERIOUSLY . INVESTIGATING.
They are now "investigating" . SERIOUSLY . INVESTIGATING. As in, how are they investigating? |
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" For the first three months, the Boolberry to Zano ratio will be 1:1. After that initial swap period ratio will start linearly decreasing until it reaches 0 at the first anniversary of the launch." If I don’t change my BBR to Zano in time, will they just disappear? No they will still be on BBR chain as normal. |
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And none of this warrants a 20% premine, that's just plain greed. And to think that zoidberg didn't benefit from boolberry would be ignorant to say the least. Boolberry is mineable, he set the genesis, boolberry was on bittrex for an extended period and he was privy to all updates that might initiate a positive movt in price before it was released to the public etc. As for my quip about notsofast, he is one of those accts that is quick to berate any platform with a significant premine, thus my comment, has nothing to do with me blindly following any account.
And before you start quoting that charlatan yonton(whom i have dealt with on countless thread and is known to intentionally shill scams for his own profit) you should do a minor research to see the reason for his post. Anyway, like i said, the team members will do what they want anyway all am doing is voicing my opinion
Just FYI: Dev payouts that were programmed in BBR emission(1% at the end of every day) to my address are nearly all still there. I used it only to pay contributors when they had been there back in 2014-2015. I believe you can even track this because BBR didn't have many transactions with mixins. If you really believe that I intended to make short-term benefit with pre-trade by using announcement influence, then explain to others why I hadn't ever sold those coins. I wouldn't be holding your coin since 2016, if i didn't see value in it, but 20% is too much. If am wrong about your financial gains from boolberry, then i apologize but i still think that 20% is excess. In excess of what? Can we quantify this decision you have come too? |
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I have been holding boolberry since late 2016, like oct-nov somewhere around that period, and if this was any other project created by a newbie with a 20% premine, all this legendary/hero members (shit damn near everyone)will be shitting bricks and cussing up a fire storm.
I understand and respect the work been done but lets not act like the devs didn't benefit from boolberry, its been around for yrs and had a nice little run on bittrex before been delisted. There is just no reason to keep 20% of the fund , that just not right to the ppl who have been supporting this platform for so long. This makes me automatically sad especially knowing how long i have been holding this coin.
Some might say "well you shouldn't swap", but we all know that with time all the updates will go to zano since they holding such a large amount and boolberry will slowly be placed on the backburner. Am all for getting compensated for your work, but 20% is just plain greedy and they can't say they haven't gained significantly already from boolberrry cos individuals at helm are always privy to important updates before it hits the mass and can trade according.
Anyway, it's what it is, we are the sheep in this scenario and the shepherd is going to do as they please. But this is fucked up on so many levels and the only reason they will get a pass is because its zoidberg and crew.
By the way, i wonder how notsofast feel about this premine since he merited this thread. And yes i know the banner "semux" that am wearing also had a premine and i constantly voiced my displeasure about it and was glad when a significant portion was burned.
Hi ISlapDonkey, let's start off by asking did Zoidberg really ever benefit from either Boolberry or it's underlying tech that he built from his own epee, hence the reason BBR had advanced features like a gui, blockchain pruning etc in comparison to XMR within first few months of it's existence. From all accounts and recording's publicly available information it would suggest he didn't. If you consider a 1% mining tax on BBR circ supply sufficient then yes he made as much as my local binman if he was lucky. Had Zoidberg had enough funding in 2014 to compete with monero and the scammers that where involved & backing it then yes sure times would be different, instead today you have fluffy who has more knowledge about my local bakery than CN running around acting like monero created or re-invented CN. These same clowns are telling you they know all today, while in reality they are years behind the developments made coming with ZANO. What zoidberg done in the first few months of BBR took monero took 4 years to come close too(with external help), yet underachieved and most if any plausible improvements didn't come from him and his band of fluffy animals. You think that troll wouldn't have been down my throat before now if he had anything of substance to come with? If your not happy with what is being offered with ZANO "but we all know that with time all the updates will go to zano since they holding such a large amount and boolberry" it simply show's you have held on for the expectation of improvements when CZ returned (considering your dates). So you are speculating, but your completely wrong with your assumption, if all the improvements have been plausible to be implemented on BBR then they would have been, the big difference is they aren't possible nor would have a lot of other developments coming been possible on BBR, but go ahead tell me that a world class team of developers should be here to pump code out for you to speculate on. See this " i wonder how notsofast feel about this premine since he merited this thread" another example of you following blindly. NSF merited Announcement, stop playing the victim. How has your BBR held against market swings incl so called Charlies Winter? And none of this warrants a 20% premine, that's just plain greed. And to think that zoidberg didn't benefit from boolberry would be ignorant to say the least. Boolberry is mineable, he set the genesis, boolberry was on bittrex for an extended period and he was privy to all updates that might initiate a positive movt in price before it was released to the public etc. As for my quip about notsofast, he is one of those accts that is quick to berate any platform with a significant premine, thus my comment, has nothing to do with me blindly following any account. And before you start quoting that charlatan yonton(whom i have dealt with on countless thread and is known to intentionally shill scams for his own profit) you should do a minor research to see the reason for his post. Anyway, like i said, the team members will do what they want anyway all am doing is voicing my opinion lol so you do no research and come here talking garbage, you obviously are a new person(noob) on the scene or else as i say done no research. Your ignorance is obvious by your lack of basic knowledge on the subject matter, privy to what updates? CZ wasn't here to do any yet BBR stood the test of time, much to Monerocrushers amusement so did WK. As for you assumption on NSF, again a stupid assumption but judging by your statements made and assumptions that's no big surprise tbh. "before you start quoting that charlatan yonton(whom i have dealt with on countless thread and is known to intentionally shill scams for his own profit) you should do a minor research to see the reason for his post. Anyway, like i said, the team members will do what they want anyway all am doing is voicing my opinion" what is this recent dribble your speaking of? |
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Go slap your donkey! Yeehaaawww! 😂
some ass's need a slap every so often. |
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I have been holding boolberry since late 2016, like oct-nov somewhere around that period, and if this was any other project created by a newbie with a 20% premine, all this legendary/hero members (shit damn near everyone)will be shitting bricks and cussing up a fire storm.
I understand and respect the work been done but lets not act like the devs didn't benefit from boolberry, its been around for yrs and had a nice little run on bittrex before been delisted. There is just no reason to keep 20% of the fund , that just not right to the ppl who have been supporting this platform for so long. This makes me automatically sad especially knowing how long i have been holding this coin.
Some might say "well you shouldn't swap", but we all know that with time all the updates will go to zano since they holding such a large amount and boolberry will slowly be placed on the backburner. Am all for getting compensated for your work, but 20% is just plain greedy and they can't say they haven't gained significantly already from boolberrry cos individuals at helm are always privy to important updates before it hits the mass and can trade according.
Anyway, it's what it is, we are the sheep in this scenario and the shepherd is going to do as they please. But this is fucked up on so many levels and the only reason they will get a pass is because its zoidberg and crew.
By the way, i wonder how notsofast feel about this premine since he merited this thread. And yes i know the banner "semux" that am wearing also had a premine and i constantly voiced my displeasure about it and was glad when a significant portion was burned.
Hi ISlapDonkey, let's start off by asking did Zoidberg really ever benefit from either Boolberry or it's underlying tech that he built from his own epee, hence the reason BBR had advanced features like a gui, blockchain pruning etc in comparison to XMR within first few months of it's existence. From all accounts and recording's publicly available information it would suggest he didn't. If you consider a 1% mining tax on BBR circ supply sufficient then yes he made as much as my local binman if he was lucky. Had Zoidberg had enough funding in 2014 to compete with monero and the scammers that where involved & backing it then yes sure times would be different, instead today you have fluffy who has more knowledge about my local bakery than CN running around acting like monero created or re-invented CN. These same clowns are telling you they know all today, while in reality they are years behind the developments made coming with ZANO. What zoidberg done in the first few months of BBR took monero took 4 years to come close too(with external help), yet underachieved and most if any plausible improvements didn't come from him and his band of fluffy animals. You think that troll wouldn't have been down my throat before now if he had anything of substance to come with? If your not happy with what is being offered with ZANO "but we all know that with time all the updates will go to zano since they holding such a large amount and boolberry" it simply show's you have held on for the expectation of improvements when CZ returned (considering your dates). So you are speculating, but your completely wrong with your assumption, if all the improvements have been plausible to be implemented on BBR then they would have been, the big difference is they aren't possible nor would have a lot of other developments coming been possible on BBR, but go ahead tell me that a world class team of developers should be here to pump code out for you to speculate on. See this " i wonder how notsofast feel about this premine since he merited this thread" another example of you following blindly. NSF merited Announcement, stop playing the victim. How has your BBR held against market swings incl so called Charlies Winter? Did you really say " if this was any other project created by a newbie with a 20% premine, all this legendary/hero members (shit damn near everyone)will be shitting bricks and cussing up a fire storm." Go look @ CMC ffs stick to top 100 too |
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I have been holding boolberry since late 2016, like oct-nov somewhere around that period, and if this was any other project created by a newbie with a 20% premine, all this legendary/hero members (shit damn near everyone)will be shitting bricks and cussing up a fire storm.
I understand and respect the work been done but lets not act like the devs didn't benefit from boolberry, its been around for yrs and had a nice little run on bittrex before been delisted. There is just no reason to keep 20% of the fund , that just not right to the ppl who have been supporting this platform for so long. This makes me automatically sad especially knowing how long i have been holding this coin.
Some might say "well you shouldn't swap", but we all know that with time all the updates will go to zano since they holding such a large amount and boolberry will slowly be placed on the backburner. Am all for getting compensated for your work, but 20% is just plain greedy and they can't say they haven't gained significantly already from boolberrry cos individuals at helm are always privy to important updates before it hits the mass and can trade according.
Anyway, it's what it is, we are the sheep in this scenario and the shepherd is going to do as they please. But this is fucked up on so many levels and the only reason they will get a pass is because its zoidberg and crew.
By the way, i wonder how notsofast feel about this premine since he merited this thread. And yes i know the banner "semux" that am wearing also had a premine and i constantly voiced my displeasure about it and was glad when a significant portion was burned.
Hi ISlapDonkey, let's start off by asking did Zoidberg really ever benefit from either Boolberry or it's underlying tech that he built from his own epee, hence the reason BBR had advanced features like a gui, blockchain pruning etc in comparison to XMR within first few months of it's existence. From all accounts and recording's publicly available it would suggest he didn't. If you consider a 1% mining tax on BBR circ supply sufficient then yes he made as much as my local binman if he was lucky. Had Zoidberg had enough funding in 2014 to compete with monero and the scammers that where involved & backing it then yes sure times would be different, instead today you have fluffy who has more knowledge about my local bakery than CN running around acting like monero created or re-invented CN. These same clowns are telling you they know all today, while in reality they are years behind the developments made coming with ZANO. What zoidberg done in the first few months of BBR took monero took 4 years to come close too(with external help), yet underachieved and most if any plausible improvements didn't come from him and his band of fluffy animals. You think that troll wouldn't have been down my throat before now if he had anything of substance to come with? If your not happy with what is being offered with ZANO "but we all know that with time all the updates will go to zano since they holding such a large amount and boolberry" it simply show's you have held on for the expectation of improvements when CZ returned (considering your dates). So you are speculating, but your completely wrong with your assumption, if all the improvements have been plausible to be implemented on BBR then they would have been, the big difference is they aren't possible nor would have a lot of other developments coming been possible on BBR, but go ahead tell me that a world class team of developers should be here to pump code out for you to speculate on. See this " i wonder how notsofast feel about this premine since he merited this thread" another example of you following blindly. NSF merited Announcement, stop playing the victim. How has your BBR held against market swings incl so called Charlies Winter? |
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