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Well, I did ok this morning but still haven't got my payouts. Not sure if he just didn't see me here or what. It's getting old doing this every day, having to wait for him to get around to sending me payouts. I mean damn, when I lose he gets it instantly. Why should I have to wait sometimes 2-3 days to get paid?
I am probably his most active player, too.....
Come on secondstrade, I need those coins. It's hard having hundreds tied up waiting for you all the time.
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Hey man, don't forget me! I could use those payouts before tomorrow please.
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Thank you secondstrade. You are a stand up guy, forget the haters! |
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I did the following bet: https://blockchain.info/tx/a5577b56fe6b8cc64914a8e3b6b94aaf1bf93675697750e68e5604845305fcb9It was a EURUSD call. I sent the transfer on 2016-11-15 02:23:43, but the trade was not executed until 2:53:27, 30 minutes later. The payment was sent from Electrum, which is a wallet you recommend and I saw the transaction in blockchain.org a second after I sent it. http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=a5577b56fe6b8cc64914a8e3b6b94aaf1bf93675697750e68e5604845305fcb9Not only that, the price of EURUSD was ~1.07515 when the option was finally purchased, but it spiked on your platform to 1.0756 and then right back down. And the option was executed at 1.0756 even though no other feed had that price movement (FXCM, Interactive Brokers or ThinkorSwim...three of the largest forex brokers). Here is an example of a similar price spike soon after the bet was made: http://prntscr.com/d8mf2lSo basically, even with the 30 minutes extra to execute my trade, I should have won it, or at the least tied it depending on what price the option was traded at...so can you return my bet. This was my first bet and I want to place a lot more but I want to know that it will be done fairly. EDIT: Here is the price of EURUSD when the option was purchased. This is from TDAmeritrade, one of the worlds largest brokers. http://prntscr.com/d8mm4rThe red line is 1.0756, and the oval is the 1 minute bar the time the bet was made. As you can see, the price was nowhere near 1.0756. And I am sure that if you look at your price feed, it will show the same spike that I linked before. Also, I know that price feeds can be different but never by 5 pips, and your price feed has matches TD Ameritrade and the other broker's that I use within 0.3 pips, while this spike was ~5 pips. Even though I was clearly suppose to win the bet, I would be fine if you just refund it. I think that would be the fairest option. how the fuck so much people still play it if its an obvious scam? I mean just think about it, they have this problem for months and they dont even bother fixing it, its possible to fix that in like a week in a worstcase scenario if you work alone, theyre taking a piss on all of their players, and they just want to rob them, there are tons of people who dont even bother posting here after being scammed, thats what makes them money I might be wrong though, its just my personal opinion, looking forward to the owners answer I disagree. The house edge is what makes them money, just like in any gambling. The house will win overall, some players will lose, some will win. You can think of it as if the house takes a fee from each bet, can be from .1-10% from what I've found, depending on the venue and game played. In the end, once the smoke clears, that's how it will work out. with the house always profiting by the % of house edge. It's a winning situation no matter how you look at. Scamming people would not make more money, it would reduce the income, as the number of bets made would stay small. The more bets made, the more profit. To them it should be inconsequential who wins who loses, so long as it is played fair, the house will profit. |
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shit now i feel like a dick. got my payouts. I don't know why he ignored me for three days, i guess you can expect that to get people on edge but my apologies to secondstrade anyhow.
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what about the rest of us, secondstrade?
it's been almost three days already...
Did you double spend? Because he doesn't pay if you try to double spend because there were a few individuals here who scammed him that way. Fuck no i didnt doublespend. I don't even really think that's freaking possible. Two, three, fifteen bets for the same amount is not doublespending, or attempting to freaking doublespend. It's just more bets. I do not know of any way to doublespend like you say, every single bet I've ever made has confirmed. This double spending bullshit is just that, bullshit. An excuse, to shift the blame to the victim. His site screwed up, just like it has been doing, that java error has nothing to do with doublespending. Secondstrade! How about saying something here. You just going to ignore me/us? I really don't think that is in your best interests. Good grief, you make a fucking fortune off of me alone, you should probably send me my payouts, or you wont make another dime off of me. Check my addresses, if you think that you won't miss me, you're wrong. Shhhh, he is making money out of people like you  Not anymore, not if I'm going to be ignored and don't receive my payouts he won't make another penny off me. are you crazy when play at 5 second +4 , you are looking for your lucky on here? I guess so. I win it all the time. Luck can be your friend. Other days I lose. I defintely won those three bets that haven't been paid out yet, for example. About $200 in coin. I will not be ignored about it either. It's going to cost much more than $200 if I don't get my payouts soon. |
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what about the rest of us, secondstrade?
it's been almost three days already...
Did you double spend? Because he doesn't pay if you try to double spend because there were a few individuals here who scammed him that way. Fuck no i didnt doublespend. I don't even really think that's freaking possible. Two, three, fifteen bets for the same amount is not doublespending, or attempting to freaking doublespend. It's just more bets. I do not know of any way to doublespend like you say, every single bet I've ever made has confirmed. This double spending bullshit is just that, bullshit. An excuse, to shift the blame to the victim. His site screwed up, just like it has been doing, that java error has nothing to do with doublespending. Secondstrade! How about saying something here. You just going to ignore me/us? I really don't think that is in your best interests. Good grief, you make a fucking fortune off of me alone, you should probably send me my payouts, or you wont make another dime off of me. Check my addresses, if you think that you won't miss me, you're wrong. Shhhh, he is making money out of people like you Not anymore, not if I'm going to be ignored and don't receive my payouts he won't make another penny off me. |
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what about the rest of us, secondstrade?
it's been almost three days already...
Did you double spend? Because he doesn't pay if you try to double spend because there were a few individuals here who scammed him that way. Fuck no i didnt doublespend. I don't even really think that's freaking possible. Two, three, fifteen bets for the same amount is not doublespending, or attempting to freaking doublespend. It's just more bets. I do not know of any way to doublespend like you say, every single bet I've ever made has confirmed. This double spending bullshit is just that, bullshit. An excuse, to shift the blame to the victim. His site screwed up, just like it has been doing, that java error has nothing to do with doublespending. Secondstrade! How about saying something here. You just going to ignore me/us? I really don't think that is in your best interests. Good grief, you make a fucking fortune off of me alone, you should probably send me my payouts, or you wont make another dime off of me. Check my addresses, if you think that you won't miss me, you're wrong. |
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what about the rest of us, secondstrade?
it's been almost three days already...
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so I wont get the payout? May I ask why? so did you just steal my one bitcoin? What the hell are you talking about, chief? Why are you quoting my post? And to be clear, I got that payout. I don't know what the hell kinda drugs some of you are on, but you should stop. |
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These double spends are occuring more and more. Basically they make a bet, see if they win, if they win they do nothing. If they lose then they do a double spend attack by sending 10x the miners reward so most likely the second transaction will confirm and the first won't. The solution to this would make an entire site redesign so we have an account with a password and have a BTC balance we can trade with. It would fix all these double spends AND hopefully no more of these missed payments.
That's horseshit dude. "double spends" have nothing at all to do with the unpaid payouts. Not mine for damn sure. YOur solution is ridiculous, and I will not gamble on sites that work the way you describe. Nobody with a clue will. My coins stay in my wallet and I want the payouts to come straight to my wallet. |
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