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1  Economy / Reputation / Re: A very clear Merit Abuse among 4 higher ranked account | DT, please take a look. on: September 23, 2018, 10:12:43 AM
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Classical pajeet move, insinuate some malicious nonsense when you get caught. Cheesy

It just lets you look more and more desperate the more you try to "fud" me!

Keep going it just proves that I hit a nerve here!
2  Economy / Reputation / Re: A very clear Merit Abuse among 4 higher ranked account | DT, please take a look. on: September 23, 2018, 10:00:32 AM
Instead of a "yellow card", I call a little "timeout".
So, just out of curiosity could you tell me how long this is usually going to last
Solely my discretion.
There have been instances in the past where I deleted a negative after only one or two days.
In other cases, it took as long as three years.

I tend to go over my trust ratings from time to time, look into their respective references, look up an up-to-date post history of the rated user and make up my mind.
It helps if you keep reminding me of doing so after a while (say, a month or two), but please refrain from bugging me constantly about it, that'd just be annoying and might actually lead to a less favorable outcome.

Alright. Gotcha. Thx for the heads up anyway. Did you at least consider changing the original merit thread as I suggested?
3  Economy / Reputation / Re: A very clear Merit Abuse among 4 higher ranked account | DT, please take a look. on: September 23, 2018, 09:58:38 AM
And btw, Lauda, since you are a member of an "Escrow Team" like stated here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1938190 could it be, that it is for your interest that you nuke my/our reputation down cause we just started an Escrow Service on our own?

I think yes! That case is pretty clear. Time to get Mods involved!
0 history of valid trades and "this user's email address was changed recently" = "escrow service"? Classic pajeet. Roll Eyes

Loose assumptions, we got a history just not in this forum! Yet you gotta start somewhere. As if you started with a trade history with your "escrow service"

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Solely my discretion.
There have been instances in the past where I deleted a negative after only one or two days.
In other cases, it took as long as three years.

I tend to go over my trust ratings from time to time, look into their respective references, look up an up-to-date post history of the rated user and make up my mind.
It helps if you keep reminding me of doing so after a while (say, a month or two), but please refrain from bugging me constantly about it, that'd just be annoying and might actually lead to a less favorable outcome.
There is no reason to revoke your rating on these two users, especially not if they are providing an "escrow service". This just transformed from a 'merit abuse' to a 'high risk' case.

Loose assumptions all over the place. You can't prove anything here but I don't take it personally since you are scared of a new contender. I feel ya!
4  Economy / Reputation / Re: A very clear Merit Abuse among 4 higher ranked account | DT, please take a look. on: September 20, 2018, 08:59:14 AM
We have issue here, this is what happened & it is allowed, as described in official thread. It's 100% logically permitted by rules.
With that statement you have just admitted to what you did. Whether rules or not allow it is irrelevant.

And btw, Lauda, since you are a member of an "Escrow Team" like stated here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1938190 could it be, that it is for your interest that you nuke my/our reputation down cause we just started an Escrow Service on our own?

I think yes! That case is pretty clear. Time to get Mods involved!
5  Economy / Reputation / Re: A very clear Merit Abuse among 4 higher ranked account | DT, please take a look. on: September 20, 2018, 08:24:21 AM
I agree that it's in gray zone, but gray zone is gray, not black. So what mods are doing is executing unwritten/imagined rules.

I don't believe there are any moderators involved.  This is an issue of trust between a user and other community members as a result of their actions.

Listen, and I repeat myself here, it is nowhere stated in the original merit thread that you ain't allowed to share your merits with your friends, so we get penalized for doing something that isn't restricted. And they are even admitting it as you can see from the post above.

We have issue here, this is what happened & it is allowed, as described in official thread. It's 100% logically permitted by rules.
With that statement you have just admitted to what you did. Whether rules or not allow it is irrelevant.
6  Economy / Reputation / Re: A very clear Merit Abuse among 4 higher ranked account | DT, please take a look. on: September 20, 2018, 08:07:58 AM
We have issue here, this is what happened & it is allowed, as described in official thread. It's 100% logically permitted by rules.
With that statement you have just admitted to what you did. Whether rules or not allow it is irrelevant.



So, with that statement, you have just admitted that it is irrelevant if you follow the rules or not you get penalized. That's just mod abuse!

Do you think that's fair? I wonder how you would react to it if that would happen to you!
7  Economy / Reputation / Re: A very clear Merit Abuse among 4 higher ranked account | DT, please take a look. on: September 19, 2018, 03:06:53 PM
it's a farce to penalize someone for doing something that isn't actually restricted, don't you think?
I tend not to let "fairness" come into the equation of my trust rating calculations.

That actually doesn't answer my question, you still penalizing someone for doing something that isn't restricted by the rules. So, could you, to spare your precious time as well as of all the others update the original thread and add that it is restricted to send and share merits within your friends! Thank you!

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And to be fair, "and I am not demanding it by any means", I just want to appeal to your fairness that this was a one-time "mistake"
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you could let us go with just a "yellow card" instead of a red one (harming our trust).
That's most likely what I'll do.
Instead of a "yellow card", I call a little "timeout".

So, just out of curiosity could you tell me how long this is usually going to last, because as you can see in my post history, I opened an ANN Thread not that long ago and I doubt that anyone is going to trust me as long as I got this mark on me, thus I ask myself to remove the thread an open it again once you've removed it?

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So what is wrong about changing my email? Are assuming that I just logged in to send merits?
That's usually what it indicates, yes.
8  Economy / Reputation / Re: A very clear Merit Abuse among 4 higher ranked account | DT, please take a look. on: September 19, 2018, 02:28:56 PM
So, I see no problem with sending him all the merit I had. It's like I vouch for him. Is this a problem? Vouching for a friend?
IMO its a little harsh to nukle all of our "trust" down just because we shared our merit points with each other
Well, sharing merit is definitely frowned upon and I (and others) reserve the right to penalize it with negative trust.
With me, it's usually not such a big issue, since I tend to delete negative trust ratings after a while when I see no more need for it.
See it as a kind of "timeout" for your trust.

Well, then It should be stated in the original Merit Thread in the rules section; It's very new system, and it's a farce to penalize someone for doing something that isn't actually restricted, don't you think?. If I had known it in before I obviously never had done it because I don't want to harm my trust by any means. And to be fair, "and I am not demanding it by any means", I just want to appeal to your fairness that this was a one-time "mistake" (imo its still no mistake cause it's not stated anywhere that we actually did something wrong but I accept it since we talked about it and you made your point clear.) and you could let us go with just a "yellow card" instead of a red one (harming our trust).


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Also, there's a little more to the story than just what you see from the merit statistics:
Quote from: Trust summary for kryptopojken
This user's password was reset recently.
Quote from: Trust summary for B!gSmoke
This user's email address was changed recently.
Quote from: Trust summary for HardwarePal
This user's password was reset recently.
This user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity.

These, combined with the merit trading, are usually clear warning signs of abuse.

So what is wrong about changing my email? Are assuming that I just logged in to send merits?
9  Economy / Reputation / Re: A very clear Merit Abuse among 4 higher ranked account | DT, please take a look. on: September 19, 2018, 01:36:24 PM
Well, and its the same with all the other accounts that were involved. So, IMO its a little harsh to nukle all of our "trust" down just because we shared our merit points with each other, despite its nowhere stated that we ain't allowed to do so!

It's not like we scammed anyone or did harm anyone! But killing our reputations that we build over years because of it is like I said a little bit far-fetched!
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] – ALTCOINS OTC (over the counter) TRADING DESK on: September 15, 2018, 02:26:24 PM
Yes, that's a good idea for new users and members in trading some altcoins which they are not listed on the official exchanges .
However it will need to be proved that all transactions are safe and transparent for all users .

Well, usually that's the attributes of a blockchain! So, shouldn't be to hard to prove!
11  Local / Alt-Currencies (Italiano) / [ANN] - ALTCOINS OTC (over the counter) Banco di trading on: September 14, 2018, 11:40:24 PM
Signori, Signore, BTC Maximalists, Altcoin Maximalists, Shitcoiners e tutti gli quanti, siamo lieti di annunciare che il tuo nuovo "Altcoin OTC Trading Desk" sta per aprire e il trading  inizierà- Domenica pomeriggio 3:30 p.m. (UTC) !!!!!!

Noi, B1gSmoke e DS831228 abbiamo creato un banco di negoziazione over-the-counter di Altcoin che si concentra sul servizio di deposito e trading (escrow) di Altcoins che sono stati distribuite dopo l'ICO ma non sono ancore scambiabili nelle Principali borse come Binance, Coinbase, Poloniex e tutte le altre.

Come funzionerà ?
Puoi unirti a uno dei nostri canali Telegram  o Discord (presto disponibile).
Quindi puoi postare quale moneta vuoi scambiare (vedi il modulo corretto sotto) e aspetta che la tua controparte ti invii un messaggio personale. Dopodichè, devi contattare uno degli amministratori (la lista degli amministratori può essere trovata qui) e l'amministratore ti guiderà attraverso il resto del processo di escrow.
Attenzione! - In questo momento,  BTC; ETH e NEO sono gli unici token scambiabili, tuttavia stiamo esplorando più opzioni per integrare un ampio range di token per garantirti la migliore esperienza di escrow possibile. - Garantire un sicuro deposito e scambio dei fondi è la nostra priorità.

Questo è il modulo corretto da postare nel caso in cui si desideri utilizzare il nostro servizio!

Se vuoi vendere qualcosa, ti preghiamo di postare solo in questo modo
WTS (voglio vendere)
Altcoin Qualsiasi (nome dell' Altcoin) - per ETH o BTC (scegli uno dei due)
X quantità di quel altcoin per X importo ETH o BTC - Tasso di cambio (Altcoiin / ETH, BTC)

Per esempio:
WTS
Sentinel (SENT) - per ETH.
320.000 SENT per 4 ETH - 80.000 SENT / ETH


Se vuoi comprare qualcosa, ti preghiamo di postare solo in questo modo
WTB (voglio comprare)
Altcoin Qualsiasi (nome dell' Altcoin) - con ETH o BTC
X quantità di quel altcoin per X importo ETH o BTC - Tasso di cambio (Altcoiin / ETH, BTC)

Per esempio:
WTB
Sentinel (SENT) - con ETH
320.000 SENT per 4 ETH - 80.000 SENT / ETH

La commissione di deposito per l'uso del servizio è del 2,5%, verrà in genere detratta dal denaro/tokens trattenuto in deposito (escrow) per lo scambio. Tuttavia, se entrambe le parti giungono a un diverso accordo in merito alla "commissione di deposito e garanzia", ​​si prega di avvisare l'amministratore all'inizio della conversazione.

Ogni scambio di successo verrà pubblicato sul nostro canale Twitter Channel e sul nostro Announcement Channel su Telegram!

e non dimenticarti di dare un'occhiata al nostro sito Website.

Avviso: per favore assicurati al 100% che utilizzi solo l'indirizzo che ti forniamo. Puoi trovare tutti gli indirizzi di deposito di sicurezza idonei nelle informazioni/linee guida sul canale telegram e nella nostra pagina Web ( http://altcoiners-otc.com Se non sei ancora sicuro se usi l'indirizzo giusto, non esitare a chiedere a uno dei nostri amministratori di mandarti l'indirizzo in un messaggio personale.)

NON POSSIAMO RIMBORSARE NESSUNO CHE UTILIZZI UN INDIRIZZO SBAGLIATO!

Ci vediamo presto nel nostro canale Telegram!
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NEX] Decentralized exchange on NEO blockchain on: September 14, 2018, 09:53:43 PM
You're one of the lucky ones that want to take profit after participating in the NEX ICO?
Or you are part of the majority that missed it and want exposure? We can make it happen!

Come join us on Telegram and check out our BTT ANN Thread!


First Trading pair will be NEX/NEO and it will go live next Sunday 09/16/2018 3:30 pm (UTC)
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] – ALTCOINS OTC (over the counter) TRADING DESK on: September 14, 2018, 09:22:02 PM
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN] – ALTCOINS OTC (over the counter) TRADING DESK on: September 14, 2018, 08:44:23 PM
Ladies, Gentleman, BTC Maximalists, Altcoin Maximalists, Shitcoiners and everyone else, we are happy to announce your new favourite “Altcoin OTC Trading Desk” is now going live and trading will start - Sunday afternoon 3:30 p.m. (UTC)!!!!!!

We, B1gSmoke and DS831228 have created an Altcoin over-the-counter trading desk which primarily focuses on providing the escrow service for trading Altcoins that have been distributed after the ICO but haven’t found their way onto major exchanges like Biannce, Coinbase, Poloniex or any other yet.

How is that going to work?
You can join either one of our Channels on Telegram or Discord (coming soon).
Then you can post which coin you want to trade (see the correct form below) and wait until your counterpart send you a personal message. Afterwards, you contact one of our Admins (list of Admins can be found here) and the Admin will then guide you through the rest of the escrow process.
Attention! – Right now, we are only using BTC; ETH and NEO as tokens of exchange however we are exploring more options to onboard a bright set of network tokens to give you the best escrow experience possible. - Storing escrow funds safe is our top priority.

Correct form to post in case you want to use our service!

If you want to sell something, please only post like this
WTS (want to sell)
Random Altcoin (Altcoin handle) – for ETH or BTC (Please choose either one)
X amount of that altcoin for X amount ETH or BTC – Exchange rate (Altcoiin/ETH, BTC)

For Example:
WTS
Sentinel (SENT) – for ETH.
320,000 SENT for 4 ETH – 80,000 SENT/ETH


If you want to buy something, please only post like this
WTB (want to buy)
Random Altcoin (Altcoin handle) – with ETH or BTC
X Amount of Random Altcoin for X BTC or ETH – Exchange rate (Altcoin/ETH, BTC)

For Example:
WTB
Sentinel (SENT) - with ETH
320,000 SENT for 4 ETH – 80,000 SENT/ETH

The escrow fee of 2.5% will typically be deducted from the money held in escrow. However, should both parties come to a different agreement regarding the "escrow fee", please notify the admin at the beginning of the conversation.

Every successful trade will get posted onto our Twitter Channel as well as onto our Announcement Channel on Telegram!

And don't forget to check our Website.

Disclaimer: Please make 100% sure that you only use the address we provide you. You can also find all eligible admin escrow addresses in the guidelines of our channel info and our webpage (insert link here. If you still ain’t sure if you use the right address, please don’t hesitate to ask one of our Admins to send you the address per personal message.

WE CAN'T REFUND ANYBODY THAT USES A WRONG ADDRESS!

See you soon in our Telegram Channel!
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform on: August 30, 2018, 08:42:48 AM
There are no illegal things in Crypto??? So, what's with Bitconnect or Onecoin for example? WTF dude, I don't get your message there.

Well, you are wrong there my friend. First of all, it’s not 200k its only 160k and these coins will most likely not appear on the market. Because the remaining btc are corporate assets that must be returned to the stockholders (Karpeles etc.). And since there will be no legal reason to sell these bitcoins they would be really stupid to sell them on their own after they received them especially at these prices.
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I hate to pop your bubble but there is 200000 bitcoin helt by the mt gox trustee that is about to be given back to the victoms ergo that wil bring the btc price down so just say goodbye to your bull run for the next (my guess 5 to 6 years. And the marketing already sucks the events are money waisting and i would have loved to see Iconomi or a daa manager (as a price for having the best preforming daa) speaking on the blockchain 2018 cruise schip.

Hold on, the platform launched with the first couple of DAAs in Oktober and we got that btc bull run and alts cycle in Dec - Jan. So it was partly running but the problem back then was they didn't do much marketing during the bull run. What and here I agree on you keot the possible burning rate of the ICN token relatively small. However, for at least what I know this will change in the next bull run. So, that's when buybacks really should start to kick in.
Karpeles said he did’nt wanted the bitcoins so his wil be distributed to the victoms (i guess) but annyways there are no legal or illegal things in crypto.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform on: August 29, 2018, 08:44:07 AM
Well, you are wrong there my friend. First of all, it’s not 200k its only 160k and these coins will most likely not appear on the market. Because the remaining btc are corporate assets that must be returned to the stockholders (Karpeles etc.). And since there will be no legal reason to sell these bitcoins they would be really stupid to sell them on their own after they received them especially at these prices.
Quote from: RichardReMark
I hate to pop your bubble but there is 200000 bitcoin helt by the mt gox trustee that is about to be given back to the victoms ergo that wil bring the btc price down so just say goodbye to your bull run for the next (my guess 5 to 6 years. And the marketing already sucks the events are money waisting and i would have loved to see Iconomi or a daa manager (as a price for having the best preforming daa) speaking on the blockchain 2018 cruise schip.

Hold on, the platform launched with the first couple of DAAs in Oktober and we got that btc bull run and alts cycle in Dec - Jan. So it was partly running but the problem back then was they didn't do much marketing during the bull run. What and here I agree on you keot the possible burning rate of the ICN token relatively small. However, for at least what I know this will change in the next bull run. So, that's when buybacks really should start to kick in.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform on: August 28, 2018, 03:22:50 PM
Hold on, the platform launched with the first couple of DAAs in Oktober and we got that btc bull run and alts cycle in Dec - Jan. So it was partly running but the problem back then was they didn't do much marketing during the bull run. What and here I agree on you keot the possible burning rate of the ICN token relatively small. However, for at least what I know this will change in the next bull run. So, that's when buybacks really should start to kick in.

During the bull market nothing was up and running on Iconomi, how would they be able to burn anything if nothing was making money yet?

anyone got any idea when the next burning will occur . i remember its being said as every quarter, but can someone comment!!

yes, burning takes place at the end of every quarter.

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In Q3 2018 we are continuing with our repayment program using revenues generated in Q2, which amounted to US$404,410 or 888.46 ETH. As stated in our Introducing Fees Payable in ICN blog post, DAA management fees are now collected and converted to ICN on a daily basis and will be burned at the end of each quarter, rather than in the following quarter.


proof - ICONOMI Financial Report — Q2 2018


The token burn smart contract can be viewed here.

14,951 ICN burned in 6 months ?

No, the total is 1,069,660 ICN burnt over the past 396 days. You can see the totals here:

https://etherscan.io/token/0x888666ca69e0f178ded6d75b5726cee99a87d698?a=0x0006157838d5a6b33ab66588a6a693a57c869999

During the biggest crypto bull market, the Iconomi team burned less than 600k usd. All the 'expenses' seem to just go to the team, with the ICN investors holding the bag. Where are the promises from the original whitepaper that the team used to raise all this money?
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform on: June 29, 2018, 01:22:25 PM
I miss Daparski. He predicted ICN would be worth a good amount at the end of summer 2018, so I'll be watching for the next couple of months, to see if he was right.

I've noticed a lot of ICN fans have vanished/gone quiet. Can I get a proof of life from the rest of the people who used to reply to me??


Sure bro, the thing is, BTT is ded just like you was from NOV until that comment!

Hello!

True, this site is a bit of a relic now.

I've been on the Iconomi Rocket.chat too, by the way. What a depressing place that is!

I think Iconomi have killed most of their community off. You may be one of the final beats before it flatlines completely!

I got strong hands, or heavy bags, whatever Cheesy!
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform on: June 22, 2018, 09:41:58 AM

I miss Daparski. He predicted ICN would be worth a good amount at the end of summer 2018, so I'll be watching for the next couple of months, to see if he was right.

I've noticed a lot of ICN fans have vanished/gone quiet. Can I get a proof of life from the rest of the people who used to reply to me??


Sure bro, the thing is, BTT is ded just like you was from NOV until that comment!
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform on: February 24, 2018, 03:47:04 AM
Fiat ramp-up soon!  Grin
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