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481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 25, 2016, 11:30:32 PM
So it didn't even rise 2X. Embarrassed What went wrong?

Made me laugh more than it should.

Cheesy

But honestly guys, dafuq went wrong Huh
482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 25, 2016, 08:35:19 PM
Some people here obviously doesn`t understand what is the meaning of Kraken adding new coin on launch date...


I don't have account in kraken, is a good exchange?

No, kraken is biggest scam exchange in the whole universe! Grin
Why?

They even offer help to people who got scammed by Mt Gox

They rarely add coins because they're very critical and legal.

Just to get things clear. It was a joke, dude.
483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 25, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
Some people here obviously doesn`t understand what is the meaning of Kraken adding new coin on launch date...


I don't have account in kraken, is a good exchange?

No, kraken is biggest scam exchange in the whole universe! Grin
484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 25, 2016, 06:42:34 PM
Do you need to give a telephone number for registering on Kraken even for the most basic account?

Yes.
485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 25, 2016, 05:46:24 PM
Kraken order book: 0.01BTC for 1 ICN

C-H-E-A-P-C-O-I-N-S-B-O-Y-S

1 btc = 1 ICN ?

You got some coins. I wanna buy! Cheesy
486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 25, 2016, 01:06:10 PM
Where is our NASA live broadcast?  Huh
487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 25, 2016, 12:40:17 PM
i'm selling 3900 ICN for 9,75 BTC (0.0025/icn)

You got more? Want to buy for 20 btc.
488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AMP - The Currency That Powers Your Attention On Synereo on: October 24, 2016, 10:26:08 PM
AMPlifiy this post... Anyone really gonna use this? Will people purchase AMPs so they can upvote stuff? I doubt that.

AMPlifiy this post... And loose money with that...

Would YOU do this? Not someone you can imagine...

It's like with this social network for pets. If you ask around you find a lot people who can imagine such a thing would be profitable. But in reality, no one would use it.
This does not even work with STEEM. As I understand, the more STEEM, the more upvote. But with STEEM, these are not lost after upvoting. And yet steemit isn't really profitable for investors.

Except for advertisers perhaps...

AMPs have value because of their use case for advertisers, but they also are valuable for a lot of other use cases.  One of those being content producers (aka musicians, artists, etc...) who will now be able to directly sell their content to the consumer without having to use middlemen (aka Spotify, iTunes, etc...).  AMPs are also the intermediary token for monetary transfers on the decentralized internet.  Want to send BTC or Fiat (a fiat token redeemable through a gateway service)?  The financial instrument that you send will be converted to AMPs, sent to the recipient, and reconverted into the currency of their choice on the fly.  Also, AMPs are the underlying token of the RChain.  AMPs will have plenty of uses on the decentralized internet and all the dApps and companies which will be utilizing it.

You guys do realize that the crowdsale buyers is losing money is not a good thing to Synereo, basically its because of their investment of 4.7M that there will be development....

If you're expecting a large return in the next week or two, it's probably not going to happen.  If you're willing to wait a little longer, I seriously think AMPs will easily hit $5 USD next year.  Synereo is leaps and bounds better than Ethereum and the full AMP distribution, in my estimate, is many, many years off.
Problem is, there are much more AMPs than ETH. Total supply:

1,680,400,000 AMP
     85,271,149 ETH

So there are almost 20 times more AMP than ETH.

Please do correct me if I am wrong!

Here's the Synereo AMP Finance GDoc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r1G-ROS4vgHK84qfn1CBIxuXZQCCvIicCTQSxW1T_mo

As you can see, the total amount of AMPs on the market right now is ~63M.

The total amount of AMPs that can ever be issued is ~949M.

I expect another 26M will be issued from the just concluded crowdsale.  This puts the total float at 89M AMPs.  Probably around 14M AMPs out of the 949M will be burned, which will leave 935M.

Out of those 935M another 846M are left to be issued.  100M are the founders and will most likely be locked up until a substantial price increase happens.  Another 425.2M are allocated for future funding rounds.  There won't be another crowdsale for a year or a year and a half.  If only 44M AMPs were available this funding round the team has another ten years of funding rounds before this is exhausted.  This time only 59% of the 44M AMPs available in the crowdsale were sold.  Extrapolating that to the future, I expect 174.33M AMPs to be burnt before total disbursement which would put the cap at 760.66M AMPs.  The "bounty wallet", "content creator wallet", and "user rewards wallet" amount to a combined total of 290M, and again, fall under long term disbursement.  The situation now sits that there will only be 89M AMPs for the next year or more.  If you think they'll do another crowdsale yearly for ten years to fund development, you're looking at an increase of 67.16M per year.  If this project is even moderately successful, that's nothing.  Look at the marketcap of Ethereum.  It's at $1B.  Synereo is much better than Ethereum from a technological point of view.  Synereo is also much more marketable than Ethereum.  Even if Synereo just reaches $1B marketcap in two years (personally, I think it will go much higher, much sooner), you're looking at a total of 223.33M AMPs with a total market cap of $1B which means each AMP would be worth $4.47 USD.

Great post! 👏🏼👍🏼 Let's hope your math is correct.
and at this point of time, amp everything goes and goes to his goal in 100sat

Why the hell should it? Please, explain yourself.
489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 24, 2016, 10:20:57 PM
Why is everyone here trying to create false hype about ICN price?I am afraid you guys are going to be disappointed after the launch

Yep, I totally agree!
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AMP - The Currency That Powers Your Attention On Synereo on: October 24, 2016, 06:56:13 PM
AMPlifiy this post... Anyone really gonna use this? Will people purchase AMPs so they can upvote stuff? I doubt that.

AMPlifiy this post... And loose money with that...

Would YOU do this? Not someone you can imagine...

It's like with this social network for pets. If you ask around you find a lot people who can imagine such a thing would be profitable. But in reality, no one would use it.
This does not even work with STEEM. As I understand, the more STEEM, the more upvote. But with STEEM, these are not lost after upvoting. And yet steemit isn't really profitable for investors.

Except for advertisers perhaps...

AMPs have value because of their use case for advertisers, but they also are valuable for a lot of other use cases.  One of those being content producers (aka musicians, artists, etc...) who will now be able to directly sell their content to the consumer without having to use middlemen (aka Spotify, iTunes, etc...).  AMPs are also the intermediary token for monetary transfers on the decentralized internet.  Want to send BTC or Fiat (a fiat token redeemable through a gateway service)?  The financial instrument that you send will be converted to AMPs, sent to the recipient, and reconverted into the currency of their choice on the fly.  Also, AMPs are the underlying token of the RChain.  AMPs will have plenty of uses on the decentralized internet and all the dApps and companies which will be utilizing it.

You guys do realize that the crowdsale buyers is losing money is not a good thing to Synereo, basically its because of their investment of 4.7M that there will be development....

If you're expecting a large return in the next week or two, it's probably not going to happen.  If you're willing to wait a little longer, I seriously think AMPs will easily hit $5 USD next year.  Synereo is leaps and bounds better than Ethereum and the full AMP distribution, in my estimate, is many, many years off.
Problem is, there are much more AMPs than ETH. Total supply:

1,680,400,000 AMP
     85,271,149 ETH

So there are almost 20 times more AMP than ETH.

Please do correct me if I am wrong!

Here's the Synereo AMP Finance GDoc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r1G-ROS4vgHK84qfn1CBIxuXZQCCvIicCTQSxW1T_mo

As you can see, the total amount of AMPs on the market right now is ~63M.

The total amount of AMPs that can ever be issued is ~949M.

I expect another 26M will be issued from the just concluded crowdsale.  This puts the total float at 89M AMPs.  Probably around 14M AMPs out of the 949M will be burned, which will leave 935M.

Out of those 935M another 846M are left to be issued.  100M are the founders and will most likely be locked up until a substantial price increase happens.  Another 425.2M are allocated for future funding rounds.  There won't be another crowdsale for a year or a year and a half.  If only 44M AMPs were available this funding round the team has another ten years of funding rounds before this is exhausted.  This time only 59% of the 44M AMPs available in the crowdsale were sold.  Extrapolating that to the future, I expect 174.33M AMPs to be burnt before total disbursement which would put the cap at 760.66M AMPs.  The "bounty wallet", "content creator wallet", and "user rewards wallet" amount to a combined total of 290M, and again, fall under long term disbursement.  The situation now sits that there will only be 89M AMPs for the next year or more.  If you think they'll do another crowdsale yearly for ten years to fund development, you're looking at an increase of 67.16M per year.  If this project is even moderately successful, that's nothing.  Look at the marketcap of Ethereum.  It's at $1B.  Synereo is much better than Ethereum from a technological point of view.  Synereo is also much more marketable than Ethereum.  Even if Synereo just reaches $1B marketcap in two years (personally, I think it will go much higher, much sooner), you're looking at a total of 223.33M AMPs with a total market cap of $1B which means each AMP would be worth $4.47 USD.

Great post! 👏🏼👍🏼 Let's hope your math is correct.
491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 24, 2016, 06:10:50 PM

Dafuq dude. Do you think they would tell anyone before they launch? Hell no!
492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 24, 2016, 06:04:00 PM

done +1
493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 24, 2016, 03:59:38 PM
Someone will buy for 0.00024? Wanted to sell as fast as possible

I would buy! How many do you got?

If I were you I would demand a good escrow with him

Sure I will! But I don't think it was a serious offer!

And tomorrow ICN will be on exchanges.
494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 24, 2016, 02:42:15 PM
Someone will buy for 0.00024? Wanted to sell as fast as possible

I would buy! How many do you got?
495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 23, 2016, 03:56:01 PM
Update 6.5 btc!
[/quote]

I have some good news for ICN and some bad news for us. We already gathered the 20 btc. I had someone send me a PM offering 10 btc.

In the meantime, I received a message from the Support team. Here's what they say:

Dear Mr. ...

I'm afraid we have already filled the buyers' side. There was more demand for the actual purchasing of the ICN than there was ICN supply possibilities. You will be able to purchase ICN tokens on the exchanges later on.

Kind regards,
Tjasa


[/quote]

Bad luck for us then. But nice how we got it together so quickly Smiley
[/quote]

True! Great community work! Cheesy
496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 23, 2016, 02:48:45 PM
Any word on which exchange ICN is going to hit first Polo or Bittrex  Huh

That was my second question!

Here's what they replied:

Dear Mr. ...,

You will be able to trade your ICN tokens on exchanges once the exchanges communicate that they are trading ICN tokens. We cannot give any more details due to NDAs.

Kind regards,
Tjasa
497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 23, 2016, 02:39:12 PM

ICONOMI has a smart team, we can expect a smart moves too.

The launch will be awesome!
I'm aggree , waiting the real ICN its god moment than now
so best way is hold the ICN until ICN launch at market

this is rare, in fact I think this is the first time. buy and sell bounties, because there are many people who want participate in ICO. this is definitely the possibility, that the price will be higher when ICN launch at market. keep hold Smiley

Yes, this is the first time I've seen this concept.
I've seen some ico which paid bounties in btc only, SDI there was no need for conversion. (Can't remember names.)
Probably, iconomi wasn't aware of so many bounty hunters wanting btc before launch.

ICONOMI has a smart team, we can expect a smart moves too.

The launch will be awesome!
I'm aggree , waiting the real ICN its god moment than now
so best way is hold the ICN until ICN launch at market

this is rare, in fact I think this is the first time. buy and sell bounties, because there are many people who want participate in ICO. this is definitely the possibility, that the price will be higher when ICN launch at market. keep hold Smiley

Where can i buy the ICN from bounty? I am logged in but find no option for buy

If you want to make a purchase of more than 20 btc , then you can contact Iconomi, and you can buy ICNs. There is no option for buying smaller amounts on iconomi.
But, if you could gather a group collectively wanting more than 20 btc, Jani could process your buying request too.
By the way, not many ICNs would be for sale. And also there are many investors who have already contacted iconomi


I got 4 btc, is anyone interested in gathering 20 btc to get some cheap ICN?

i can give 2.5BTC and i am intrested

Great so only 13,5 to come! 👍🏼
i can give 3btc

I'm down for 4 as well if I may join.

so we need know 9.5btc more

Update 6.5 btc!

I have some good news for ICN and some bad news for us. We already gathered the 20 btc. I had someone send me a PM offering 10 btc.

In the meantime, I received a message from the Support team. Here's what they say:

Dear Mr. ...

I'm afraid we have already filled the buyers' side. There was more demand for the actual purchasing of the ICN than there was ICN supply possibilities. You will be able to purchase ICN tokens on the exchanges later on.

Kind regards,
Tjasa

498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 23, 2016, 12:13:25 PM
I'm down for 4 as well if I may join.

so we need know 9.5btc more

According to Jani, only one person must contact him for the whole group of 20 btc.
You guys don't know each other, how and who will manage that?

Probably, you should find an escrow for that purpose.

i dont see any problem. one person can contact him via email and put our all emails into cc.
escrow dont needed because everyone of us can send the btc directly to jani.

Where you see Problem?

Right! I already contacted jani if he has an idea how we could handle it.
499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 23, 2016, 11:57:00 AM

ICONOMI has a smart team, we can expect a smart moves too.

The launch will be awesome!
I'm aggree , waiting the real ICN its god moment than now
so best way is hold the ICN until ICN launch at market

this is rare, in fact I think this is the first time. buy and sell bounties, because there are many people who want participate in ICO. this is definitely the possibility, that the price will be higher when ICN launch at market. keep hold Smiley

Yes, this is the first time I've seen this concept.
I've seen some ico which paid bounties in btc only, SDI there was no need for conversion. (Can't remember names.)
Probably, iconomi wasn't aware of so many bounty hunters wanting btc before launch.

ICONOMI has a smart team, we can expect a smart moves too.

The launch will be awesome!
I'm aggree , waiting the real ICN its god moment than now
so best way is hold the ICN until ICN launch at market

this is rare, in fact I think this is the first time. buy and sell bounties, because there are many people who want participate in ICO. this is definitely the possibility, that the price will be higher when ICN launch at market. keep hold Smiley

Where can i buy the ICN from bounty? I am logged in but find no option for buy

If you want to make a purchase of more than 20 btc , then you can contact Iconomi, and you can buy ICNs. There is no option for buying smaller amounts on iconomi.
But, if you could gather a group collectively wanting more than 20 btc, Jani could process your buying request too.
By the way, not many ICNs would be for sale. And also there are many investors who have already contacted iconomi


I got 4 btc, is anyone interested in gathering 20 btc to get some cheap ICN?

i can give 2.5BTC and i am intrested

Great so only 13,5 to come! 👍🏼
i can give 3btc

I'm down for 4 as well if I may join.

so we need know 9.5btc more

Update 6.5 btc!
500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: October 23, 2016, 11:44:11 AM

ICONOMI has a smart team, we can expect a smart moves too.

The launch will be awesome!
I'm aggree , waiting the real ICN its god moment than now
so best way is hold the ICN until ICN launch at market

this is rare, in fact I think this is the first time. buy and sell bounties, because there are many people who want participate in ICO. this is definitely the possibility, that the price will be higher when ICN launch at market. keep hold Smiley

Yes, this is the first time I've seen this concept.
I've seen some ico which paid bounties in btc only, SDI there was no need for conversion. (Can't remember names.)
Probably, iconomi wasn't aware of so many bounty hunters wanting btc before launch.

ICONOMI has a smart team, we can expect a smart moves too.

The launch will be awesome!
I'm aggree , waiting the real ICN its god moment than now
so best way is hold the ICN until ICN launch at market

this is rare, in fact I think this is the first time. buy and sell bounties, because there are many people who want participate in ICO. this is definitely the possibility, that the price will be higher when ICN launch at market. keep hold Smiley

Where can i buy the ICN from bounty? I am logged in but find no option for buy

If you want to make a purchase of more than 20 btc , then you can contact Iconomi, and you can buy ICNs. There is no option for buying smaller amounts on iconomi.
But, if you could gather a group collectively wanting more than 20 btc, Jani could process your buying request too.
By the way, not many ICNs would be for sale. And also there are many investors who have already contacted iconomi


I got 4 btc, is anyone interested in gathering 20 btc to get some cheap ICN?

i can give 2.5BTC and i am intrested

Great so only 13,5 to come! 👍🏼
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