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1  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bounty management attached with Asia service. What's priority? on: September 22, 2018, 04:00:20 PM
Not exactly my area of expertise (bounties) but I can tell you that if audience is a priority for marketing, then certainly Asian audiences are ready and willing - the only issue is, as you say, most management or management services are rather global/international. That means English or European language at most.

Note: I see you're referring to East Asia... China, Koreas and Japan. Big on blockchain and crypto, and big on social media. Seems like the perfect fit yeah?

Bitcointalk isn't the best place probably to find your answer. Each of those 3 countries above are really big, really active. Just not on the forums or platforms you and I are used to. Is there a market for managers that would cross the English and non-English divide? I suppose. Hint: look up bounty management in local language. Then you find out who the players are.
2  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-09-21] Decentralized Crypto Exchange is Solution to Hacks, Will They be .. on: September 22, 2018, 02:01:14 PM
Coincheck left ALL of their money unprotected and ready to be drained. I have no idea why they're whining about recruitment when XEM has multisig actually built into its blockchain waiting to be used by anyone for free. If they couldn't be bothered to do that they could at least have spent $100 on a Trezor and saved themselves $500 million.

Time and again it's laziness and incompetence rather than hacking sophistication.

Until DNS and hosting is totally resistant to hacking I'm not going to be 100% convinced a dex is safe.

Right on. This has been true in almost all the cases of hacks of exchanges, going all the way back to Mt Gox. Negligence, nothing more. Lack of training for employees, lack of the most basic security and accountability measures. Just plain absurd arrogance to think that you could handle that much amount of funds and leave them out in the open, basically an open invitation and a hack waiting to happen.

All these guys have been guilty of negligence and this should be pointed out.

I'm not convinced DEX is ever going to be 100% safe, I think there is no such thing. But for current popular deployments, except for funds locked in off-chain escrow, at least if a host or server of a DEX is down, all you lose is access, with funds still firmly in your control.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk's UEFA Champions League Football Preditor Pool £25 in btc to join on: September 22, 2018, 12:36:35 PM
I wouldn't have needed any escrow, but I'd trust LFC with 10% of my life Wink plus he'll definitely give it to me when Liverpool wins Wink Something tells me we'll have this sidebet settled before the final, banking on a surprise finalist this season given the flux every club seems to be in. My early salutes to Supremo for backing Inter and them getting that thumping first win. You guys deserve it.

I've send a little bit more to pay for fees when he distributes, just cause I'm generous haha.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/dabc0d4d7945cb12352de49df6c3af8f59e877f1a4ef04c58fa316070b042722

I'm not part of the side bet, but it might be wise to decide now on what happens to the money if no one wins - is it all returned or does it go to the highest loser?

It's for the team that progresses the farthest, and will be split in event of ties.

4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | BitcoinRush.io Sportsbook | +90 units | 16 bets on: September 22, 2018, 11:39:40 AM
Sassuolo completed their comeback to win, but Monaco only managed to level, so we lost our parlay yesterday.

Today, we move to the Premier League where several games look straightforward on paper, but recent string of results make things a little shaky for Spurs and City... so I'm going for 2 risky bet singles today, backing Burnley or Newscastle to win.

Game 1 Burnley vs Bournemouth. 100 units on Burnley WIN @3.18. Betking odds: 3.17. Nitro odds: 3.152.
Odds advantage with closest competitor: +0.32% Units advantage: +1

Game 2 Crystal Palace vs Newcastle. 100 units on Newcastle WIN @4.08. Betking odds: 3.99. Nitro odds: 4.056
Odds advantage with closest competitor: +0.59% Units advantage: +2.4

Running units advantage after 19 bets: +97.72 (+3.4)

Running units after 17 bets (8W|9L): +1,186.50 (-100 units)



P.S.
Thanks to a note from DarkStar, I checked all my bets today. He's right, BetKing has some better odds, but not for everyone, and not for the picks I had anyway. I now added the odds from BetKing and Nitro, all checked within seconds of each other.

But where the differences are, they're really big. I'm now going to start eyeing them and start using them for betting. I guess things have changed since I first started following months ago, and the whole point of this thread is to show advantages of odds, so I will of course pick better odds when I can. So I will amend the format over the coming week, just have to get funds in order.

Some samples with really big variance!
Liverpool ML @1.19, Betking @1.18, Nitro @1.179
Draw @7.62, Betking @8 (Big difference!)

City ML @1.09, Betking @1.16
Cardiff @32.41, Betking @21
Draw @12.42, Betking @8.9

5  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Im looking for person who currently have or had before huge ammount of cryptocur on: September 22, 2018, 11:10:03 AM
Tell you what, just donate 50 BTC, get Donator status, and then pay for all the ads in the forum for 4 weeks. Then everyone will know you're serious.

You want the big whales? Forget Bitcoin. They're not who you think they are.

Just go to all the centralised shitcoins out there, contact the founders and devs. They're all the holders. Alt markets easier to manipulate. Make your millions there, with supply controlled and listings controlled, orderbooks controlled, thousands of tokens and shitcoins to play with.

Oh wait, that's already all done. Forgot that's why we're where we are today.
6  Economy / Speculation / Re: Billionaire Tim Draper Stands By Bullish $250,000 Bitcoin Price Target For 2022 on: September 22, 2018, 10:13:41 AM
Oh great, only a quarter million in four years, "only" a 40x multiplication of US dollar price? So I'll still need to get 4 BTC by 2022 to be a millionaire? Tall order as it is at today's price. Probably progressively harder if price climbs in 2019, which it will have to if that target wants reaching.

I suppose it's still "more realistic" than McAfee's big million-dollar prediction.

Might be worth noting that all these estimates make sense if we only look at temporary ATHs. 250k might get hit, but we're likelier to see far lower constants and averages.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | BitcoinRush.io Sportsbook | +90 units | 16 bets on: September 22, 2018, 09:30:38 AM
For your soccer bets, check BetKing's line. I've been able to find better odds than Rush for quite a few ML selections (everything other than ML isn't worth comparing imo, much higher margin). I think you'll find that you're taking negative odds advantage around 1/3 of the time (if not higher) for popular European soccer matches.

ex: Lillie OSC vs FC Nantes (Ligue 1), BetKing offers @1.97 on Lillie OSC, while Rush only offers @1.94. From a quick glance at the closest competitor odds, you're really only comparing with Nitrogen which is the exact same odds provider as Rush (Pinnacle) but with a higher margin.

Thanks for your feedback, DS! Much appreciated! I have checked BetKing in the past, but not specifically on ML bets, it's possible Rush is no longer competitive on the big matches. I'll compare for future selections, especially on ML parlays. If you're right, then whoever's on Nitro will be using really high margins!

Actually I mainly use NitrogenSports, but when I can't find the same lines (typically on Asian handicaps) I use 1xbit... I know they may have a bad reputation from the complaints on forum but they advertise big online and have really big line selections. I tried using BitEdge sometimes but they're not real time apparently as the odds displayed are very different from when I do check.
8  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Art Exhibition in France to Celebrate Bitcoin’s Tenth Birthday on: September 21, 2018, 03:15:02 PM
Hello Pascal! I just literally read about your project 2 minutes ago before seeing this post. I have recently started a small art project for a young person here. Nothing compared to the artists for your gallery of course... But that is another issue. You might want to publish this event in the Meetup section as well.

I've PM'd you about a query, something about coverage, which I hope you might find agreeable. It might drum up support for the event in the coming weeks, and we are huge Bitcoin supporters here.

Good luck!
9  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Looking for an analyzer tool for blockchain on: September 21, 2018, 02:29:43 PM

@srsandokan... Nilsson's analysis? Surprised anyone thought that would translate into reality. Telling you, no one if any of those creditors would liquidate at 33% of ATH Wink

Sorry didn't understand, you mean this analysis is not accurate or real?


Well, I didn't listen to all of it, but his (her?) analysis makes a lot of assumptions, almost all of which will almost certainly not happen. For example, that all of the Bitcoin would be paid out at once. It won't, it will be in tranches. Another assumption: all the creditors would liquidate at once, by dumping all on exchanges. They won't. Some will hold. Some will trade OTC or P2P.

But let's say worst-case scenario happens and Nilsson is right. The BTC gets paid out in a lump sum. All the creditors dump. You know how much volume that makes of a typical daily average? 25%. Think 25% of daily volume will move the seas?
10  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Looking for an analyzer tool for blockchain on: September 21, 2018, 10:44:08 AM
Walletexplorer is probably your best starting point. Should actually give you quite a bit to work from.

There are a few old players in the field of blockchain forensics and hearing states and intelligence are developing including for enforcement and regulatory use, but they cost money, lots of money. Check out Chainalysis and Cointeliigence maybe also resources from education like http://courses.dfironlinetraining.com/bitcoin-forensics

BitFury back in March even spent research on a fairly recent tool https://medium.com/@BitFuryGroup/bitfury-launches-crystal-a-blockchain-investigative-tool-for-law-enforcement-and-financial-3d7712dd5dce. Don't know why they pursued this though. Methinks to get on the good side of the law in future.

If you're keen on trying your own open source like suggested above, try Blockparser and BTCSpark.

Finally, blockchair has some interesting basic tools like searching for messages on blockchain.

@srsandokan... Nilsson's analysis? Surprised anyone thought that would translate into reality. Telling you, no one if any of those creditors would liquidate at 33% of ATH Wink
11  Economy / Speculation / Re: WHAT IN THE WORLD JUST HAPPENED!??? on: September 21, 2018, 09:36:03 AM
Preeetty sure I've seen really similar flash spikes/dips and I've not even been peering at charts for much longer than a year.

I saw this happen actually while making a trade, didn't think much of it amid the Ripple hype, what's curious is that even these smaller movements are getting people excited. Don't get me wrong, not crapping on anybody, just thought we'd all be a bit dulled out by now.



I'm no expert, but from I learnt so far from internet self-proclaimed TA experts - professional term for this pattern is: green dildo giving a a birth to the new bart.

Don't know about others but this shrewd amd succinct analysis has made me reevaluate my stance on TA. Perhaps there are, after all, experts still roaming these halls.
12  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Decentralized market vs. Centralized market on: September 21, 2018, 08:26:07 AM
Before you go in and list all the pros and cons, like others above already start, you should also take a look at what's already on offer and make comparisons from there. Some of the points aren't even possible to validate, like OP's original point about higher profitability with centralised markets (huh?).

A starting point would be the existing offerings of decentralised exchanges (DEX). We've now come to see that none of them are "purely" decentralised. After all, what's total decentralisation and how can it even be possible at this point in time? The majority of DEXs out there have only decentralized the storage of funds - meaning you still keep your Bitcoin or crypto on your wallets. That's already a great starting point since it eliminates the risk of the exchange running of with your funds.

But there are still several aspects that these DEXs have centralised. Most of them currently require you to use the blockchain they're using, so you can only trade tokens based on those platforms. The majority of DEXes therefore are Ethereum-based, since the alt token market is mainly populated with ERC20. Even the Bitcoin DEXs like Counterparty means you can only trade tokens based on Bitcoin blockchain like XCP. Other DEXs like Waves the same. So they're all existing in their centralised markets in that sense. I know DEXs in development will feature atomic swapping so theoretically any supported blockchain could interact.

Other aspects? Hosting of the software on central servers?

13  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-09-20]A Big Vulnerable Bug in Bitcoin Software Could Have Indeed Crashed t on: September 21, 2018, 06:39:03 AM
So why did it crashed when we only finding out the reason why? If people have learned this in the first place this will br the main reason of the panic selling but it is my first time seeing this and it was a long time ago. It is kinda strange that this news will popped out a year later of the event of course this won't create more steam compared to when it is actually happening. I really want to know why BTC crashed but I don't think this is the real reason.

You totally misunderstood the explanation I think. Maybe the Bull crashing on CoinIdol's illustration didn't help then again CI illustrations are never really illustrative of the right point heh. The crash refers to the nodes, majority of which run Bitcoin Core. Had the vulerability been triggered and picked up by those running the clients, they'd have crashed. Network would still have been up, just severely crippled. As it turns out, wasn't just the threat of a crash but inflation too, and only announced because details were made public.

14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Odds, units advantage | BitcoinRush.io Sportsbook | +94.32 units | 17 bets on: September 21, 2018, 05:34:17 AM
That turned out to be a tight parlay win, starting with Gerrard's plucky Rangers leveling the game to get the first leg won with the +1.25 handicap so I'm very pleased with that, followed by Chelsea firing a lone goal past PAOK, and then Rodger and Celtic leaving it till the 87th minute to win the game with a solitary goal. Brings our record to an even 8W and 8L. Not bad for selections mostly containing 2/3 leg parlays, but I know long term we should end up with majority losses on risky parlays.

From now on, I'll update the running totals to reflect change from the previous bet.

Today, slim pickings but let's go for the only games in Ligue 1 and Serie A.

Game 1 Sassuolo vs Empoli. Sassuolo WIN @1.91. Closest competitor odds: 1.897
Odds advantage: +0.69% Units advantage: +1.3

Game 2 Nimes Olympique vs AS Monaco, Monaco WIN @1.74. Closest competitor odds: 1.729
Odds advantage: +0.64% Units advantage: +1.1

Parlay for 100 units (1 unit = 1,000 satoshi) @3.3232. Competitor parlay @3.28
Total Odds advantage: +1.32%
Total Units advantage: +4.32 units

Running units advantage after 17 bets: +94.32 (+4.32)

Running units after 16 bets (8W|8L): +1,286.50 (+394.06 units)
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reason why 98% of sports bettors lose money long term... on: September 20, 2018, 04:35:13 PM
Clickbait title is fine, but for a sports tipster, that's an incredibly terrible use of statistics. You sent an email to 1000 people? How many were active users? How many of those who didn't use your tips did better than you? Who knows? You didn't track that, so there's no statistics, just lazy arithmetics.

Tips are okay but if you don't have a history to show, there's little that can be said of their worth. 10 games? Bet base? Got to do better than this if you're selling a service.

I dont agree with you If you properly do analysis and prepare report then in long term you will be in profit. out of 10 match only 1 or 2 will go wrong. But if you follow properly the rules of same budget game and dont play daily only bet on matches which you have fully confident.

I was saying exactly that... without any analysis and long-term report, it's impossible to say if you'd be profitable (or not) following tips from their service. But what you're saying is naive. No amount of analysis and reporting can ensure profit. If only 1 or 2 are wrong out of 10, then you're probably betting on low payouts, which isn't anyway what tipsters tend to give out (betting on 6/5 isn't a tip!). Like SyGambler says, there are good tipsters out there, but they don't bet on confidence, they bet on +EV and value odds. Even so, variance eats you up quickly at some point in the short and medium terms, such is the way of gambling. Even in sports betting.
16  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Lending websites suggestions? on: September 20, 2018, 03:14:57 PM
BTCPop definitely died a while back, they went offline and defaulted on all their debts, supposedly due to their own really bad coding/programming on their end, which they admitted themselves. Then it was put up for sale and the new owner supposedly promised to make good on all old debts. I don't know what happened next, but they're definitely an early mover. Twitter seems to have died after July though.

p2p lending was a huge thing in China too, until the government cracked down on literally hundreds of them, mostly because public had lost a lot of money. It's just a terrible lesson in implementing a great idea, interest rates were always too high. Poloniex's loaning facility and margin-triggering system was good, made me regular income last year but there's no more demand there.

 Seeing the new crop of lending platforms secured by collaterals and smart contracts. Seems like the way to go, but am not ready to take that risk.
17  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Tokenized lawsuit on: September 20, 2018, 11:42:43 AM
Yeah, curious idea at the very least but this should be a fine example of how tokenization and crowdfunding could literally work for any idea, but practically doesn't make sense. Lawyers don't take on clients they don't feel they can win (unless they're salaried, in which case it doesn't matter if you win or lose), and those who know they can win a big settlement won't want to share that settlement - besides the fact that it could actually be illegal to do so.

Throw in securities to a legal battle, why don't you? My bet's on most judges in most courts just throwing these cases out for frivolous waste of public funds.
18  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How do you market effectively in a bear market (advice needed) on: September 20, 2018, 10:23:26 AM
there's no way around it. the hype is dead. it's a bad time for public fundraising.

if it were me, i'd either try to do a private investment round, or weather the storm and wait for better times before doing a pubic ICO. there's no magic answer here when altcoins and tokens are in the throws of a bear market. advertising right now is such a tossup with investor interest at all-time lows.

Factor into this that almost any investor - individual or these popular pooled investment groups cropping up - got or is getting into ICOs as speculators and you end up with the same conclusion that token sales are pretty much low targets in this market. People investing with the main Bitcoin/Ether currencies don't feel they're getting goof value, so the only ones really keen are those token holders (so ICOs based on other platforms maybe) or those with fiat to invest.

Great idea? Working product just seeking to expand? What is attractive in a normal business world won't appeal to crowdfund crypto investors making decisions purely based on token economics.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | BitcoinRush.io Sportsbook | +80.03 units | 15 bets on: September 20, 2018, 09:17:56 AM
Very comfortable wins for all legs of our parlays... would actually have made close to 12x had we gone for 1.5 handicaps on all winners, but then I'm happy to book in a 5x win all the same.

Europa League beckons tonight, and I got my eyes on Steven Gerrard's side to start of their campaign with a thumping performance. Villareal are no pushovers, though, so I'll hedge with a +1.25 handicap. Completing the parlay will be a ML bet on Chelsea and Celtic.

Game 1 Rangers v Villareal, Rangers +1.25 @2.03. Closest competitor odds: 2.015
Odds advantage: +0.74% Units advantage: +1.5

Game 2 Chelsea vs PAOK, Chelsea WIN @1.64. Closest competitor odds: 1.631
Odds advantage: +0.45% Units advantage: +0.9

Game 3 Celtic vs Rosenberg, Celtic WIN @1.48. Closest competitor odds: 1.473
Odds advantage: +0.48% Units advantage: +0.7

Parlay for 100 units (1 unit = 1,000 satoshi) @4.9406. Competitor parlay @4.8409
Total Odds advantage: +2.06%
Total Units advantage: +9.97 units

Running units advantage after 16 bets: +90

Running units after 15 bets (7W|8L): +892.44
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk's UEFA Champions League Football Preditor Pool £25 in btc to join on: September 20, 2018, 07:06:30 AM
City were so sloppy. They had zero leadership on the field and were just all over the place. They seem to really be missing De Bruyne, and so I reckon Pep should have brought on Sane and Aguero at half time to try to change that.

Genuinely lolled at Aulas's "A vanity project for Silva" quote though.

Was watching the game in Switzerland, since my kid actually supports the enemy but I needed United to win anyway for a 3-legged parlay to work out. Young Boys could have easily scored first but for poorer finishing, and that was the lousiest penalty decision I have seen in a long time. Ball practically flies at your body, you move your hand away but no one can move that fast. Still, better to kill off Young Boys now then have them progress. No Ronaldo to meet United is also a big deal, silly red card. Juve still get 3 points with 10 men and 2 penalties, so Old Lady still knows how to win.

But I would have loved to watch City go down. I could only follow stats and they had 15 shots, so I assumed it was just bad luck but match reports suggest they were playing shitty. Too bad the shit performance didn't start in EPL but let's hope they repeat the slip up again there. Why didn't he play Aguero?!
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