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321  Other / Meta / Re: Promoting Website- allowed? on: October 24, 2021, 08:59:48 PM
I've sort of seen both aituations along the years I've spent here. Having a dedicated ANN can be benefitial so that people can find all the information on a single place, BUT sharing some articles as individual threads so that some discussion about the contents of it.

Worse and most probably case, both will get 0 interactions and will eventually die off. Not really sure there can be a single guideline here
322  Other / Meta / Re: Reports Bad&Unhandled on: October 24, 2021, 03:25:07 PM
Maybe I got wrong impression, but I think that mods are more reluctant to delete topics that have more replies and that might be the case here.
They could always lock it. The particular post that has been brought here doesn't really have that many replies, and had I found it on patrol when it was made, I'd most likely have reported it too for beeing a simple repetition of what has already been said thousands of times.

I however don't get why this one was marked as bad, since it could have simply gone unhandled till eternity (as not a low number of reports do). I do see that the thread is now on another section (bitcoin discussion), and we all know what goes on on that particular section concerning spam...
323  Local / Servicios / Re: [LISTA] Campañas de firmas que permiten postear aquí on: October 24, 2021, 11:52:49 AM
Actualizada la lista por otra semana, siento el descuadre con el hilo en ingles, pero el tiempo ultimamente es escaso...

Plazas nuevas en la campaña de chips y betspider, coindragon sigue aceptando gente (aunque sin contar post locales), nueva campaña que ha empezado hoy con buenas pagas y duracion minima de 4 semanas, con pago extra en Altcoin y un NFT para cada participante (Mintlayer, la que me ha aceptado), y un par de cambios de PNYC a cerradas
324  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bounty scammer get payed without troubles... warnings just ignored on: October 22, 2021, 04:12:38 PM
Hey guys, would you think creating some sort of "translator blacklist" would be a good idea? It'd be hosted here at the reputation board, and I have some sort of idea on how to develop it. Problem is, end of the day most of these translators simply work for shitprojects, so it could be a total waste of time

Let me know what you think of it
325  Local / Esquina Libre / Re: Bitcointalk Ranking-up pipeline - Aquellos cercanos a su siguiente rango on: October 22, 2021, 08:47:59 AM
Ahora, a falta de más rangos, a contar las Ks …
Prefiero llegar primero a los 1100, y asi poder decir que *realmente* he llegado a Lengendario por mi cuenta (sin los iniciales)
326  Local / Esquina Libre / Re: Bitcointalk Ranking-up pipeline - Aquellos cercanos a su siguiente rango on: October 22, 2021, 08:30:46 AM
Wow, 3 Hero que han pasado a Legendary en lo que va de mes, menudo liston estamos poniendo en este Local!

PS: contento de estar estrenando chapita
327  Local / Servicios / Re: [LISTA] Campañas de firmas que permiten postear aquí on: October 21, 2021, 06:45:05 PM
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Cierto! Solamente he actualizado las campañas nuevas, y no me habia parado a comprobar las que ya estaban en la lista de antes, gracias por el aviso
328  Economy / Reputation / Re: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source on: October 21, 2021, 05:43:50 PM
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I must correct you sir, I am not catalan. Other than that, thank you for bringing me here.

Ps: the "sir" thing started off as something ironical and it's sort of stuck
329  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bounty scammer get payed without troubles... warnings just ignored on: October 21, 2021, 02:49:48 PM
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Back when I did the reporting wave on one single translator, I did get in touch with the managers. I'll quote the replies, to see what kind of reply you can expect (if any).

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Hello.

Thank you for your feedback. Our team is investigating your thread. We will inform you as soon as possible. Thank you for being helpful.

Best regards.

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Good night gentlemen,

I'd like you to read the following thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5295628

It does concer both of you as campaign managers, since this user has been cheating using machine translation tools. At the end of the post, you'll see that I'd also like to know why no proofreading/validation measure has been taken. I sincerely hope that the explanations you provide are convincing enough for the members of the forum.

I apologize beforehand if I'm sounding too harsh, but I've made around 200 reports of these kind of translations from him in the last couple of hours, so understand that I'm angry; mostly because there was no control about the quality of the content.

Kind regards and be safe
Csm


Hi,

Proofreading is simply not possible as the bounty takes place on the forum. Proofreading would require extreme good faith from another member of the local board to not downplay the work of the translator to take his place, or otherwise friendships that would work to proofread each other works bad or good. I know because I've been a french translator for a long time, these things can't be verified.

As far as pedrillo, he's been working for amazix for years in the past, that's because of his reputation that I chose him. Now like Halab said, I give him the benefit of the doubt unless the results of his translation includes obvious mistakes you only find in automated translation tools.

Regards.

Investigation that will never happen, or a simple "we can't check everything" will suffice...
I know I've made some noise in the past and present about this issue, but it's good to see that more members are getting involved in this from different countries
330  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten??? on: October 20, 2021, 09:18:10 PM
Da schaut es für unsere 3 ausgewählten Kampagnenteilnehmer ein wenig besser aus in den nächsten 4 Wochen, wenn alles glatt läuft.
Es gibt doch fast 3.5 Kampagneteilnehmer wenn ich auch ins gehe (hoffentlich)  Wink
331  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bounty scammer get payed without troubles... warnings just ignored on: October 20, 2021, 11:54:21 AM
I've created a few threads about similar situations[1]; so there's really not many answers.

If you do have a local mod that speaks italian, you could simply report every post you see that has been translated this way saying that it was in fact translated by a machine.
You could also contact the manager and tell him what happen, although he'll most likely just put up an excuse. You could red-tag him in this case, it will for sure catch his attention and at least for me, it'd be a justified one.

You could also red-tag the translator, but he won't care much about it.

TLDR, reporting is your best option here




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Cheating translator and incompetent manager 
Actions against spam translators 
332  Local / Servicios / Re: [LISTA] Campañas de firmas que permiten postear aquí on: October 20, 2021, 11:35:38 AM
He procedido a actualizar la tabla del OP, espero no haberme dejado nada. He decidido no incluir la campaña de 1xbit por motivos personales, ya que tratandose de un lugar con reputacion de estafar, mejor no animar a nadie a darles publicidad
333  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] Mintlayer | Sig. Campaign | Sr./Hero/Leg up to 130$/wk in BTC+MLT tokens on: October 20, 2021, 11:06:27 AM
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=903175
Rank: Hero member
Current post count (including this one): 2086
bech32 BTC Address: bc1q0g3nrnekz946sw8mmef8rkj8ytz33zqj9yngvn
Merit EARNED in the last 120 days: 142
Do you apply for a specific region/language? yes/no and language (...) Yes, Spanish
Telegram Handle (optional):


2 questions tho;

1) Must participants join the telegram group, or only accepted participants will be allowed to join it? The wording may be a bit confusing.
2)Should a member rank up during the campaign, what would happen?
334  Other / Meta / Re: [CLUB] The SpamBusters! Busting rule-breakers constantly. on: October 19, 2021, 08:46:19 PM
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As a future reference; I'd check the rule list in case of doubt. For this particular case, rule 11

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11. No linking to illegal trading sites.
335  Local / Primeros pasos y ayuda / Re: Ledger Nano - Ledger Live – Electrum -> Cuentas y direcciones on: October 19, 2021, 08:41:07 PM
Pregunta interesada habiendo sufrido un paso hacia atras con Trezor en este aspecto, la aplicacion web permitia firmar/verificar y la aplicacion de escritorio *no*

Antes hablo de esto y antes pasa.... El día 13 Trezor ha añadido una actualizacion a Suite desde la cual se permite firmar y verificar de forma nativa (junto con un par de cosas mas, claro).
336  Other / Meta / Re: Spam wave attack on the Spanish Forum – Hardware y Minería (and others) on: October 19, 2021, 08:22:49 PM
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Thought it was that way... Still, I made the post to use as a reference for the report, and so that mprep can take that into account for his bot, if that's still a thing. Even if it only works on newbies, I don't know what we'd do without mindlesselectron... (I do, I remember at least one time it was down and the rate I was reporting at was... savage)
337  Other / Meta / Re: Spam wave attack on the Spanish Forum – Hardware y Minería (and others) on: October 19, 2021, 08:17:13 PM
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Sorry to bring more bad news, but I've found the following spammer spamming this very same thingy. He is member-ranked so that's why he most likely got away with it:

User: ADEMNL

Has made 11 posts on 11 different languages about the same product in under 40 minutes, the GoodHash whatever the hell that is. He did also post a few other threads about this last week. (Ninjasticspace)

Going to report this and ask for a GM on the report; @mprep , this may be a good new thing to add to the potential spam bot I've read about in the past (in case you read this).

338  Other / Meta / Re: Let me get this straight. Few consecutive posts within 24H. @Mods on: October 19, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
I said this the other day regarding another discussion here on Meta, but I believe it can either be relevant to this, or get cleared once and for all (so that I have a reference when reporting):

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One person you mentioned in your other thread is pedrillo0. This person's most recent post is in a thread that he created. The thread has a total of 68 posts, all of which are written by him. The issue of using automated translation tools aside, making this many consecutive posts is obviously not acceptable. This person can write the OP, and any reserved posts, he can subsequently bump his thread by giving an update/news, but if no one posts in his thread after he writes the update/news, if he wants to post in his thread again, he needs to remove his previous post with an update/news, and if desired, he can consolidate the information into a single new post.

I've actually had talks in the past with a few mods about this (not focusing on this particular user) and it's entirely up to the mod. A thread made of 10+ pages of just updates CAN be considered spam, but since every post is an update and is usually separated by 24+ hours, it does not count as a "bump" or multipost. Fine print sucks.

I'll go a bit further and add a few more "local" (since they are local-board based) examples

Example 1 (last 3 updates are from today; so <24h between updates)
Example 2 (>24h separation between updates)
Example 3 (thank god this stopped being updated)

PS: sorry, my intention is not to highjack the thread .

I'd love to see an "official" answer here as a future refence
339  Other / Meta / Re: Let me get this straight. Few consecutive posts within 24H. @Mods on: October 19, 2021, 09:44:28 AM
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I'd say a reply is already considered a bump, so just hit report and see whether it gets merged or deleted.
340  Local / Primeros pasos y ayuda / Re: Dudas sobre las campañas de firmas en el foro. on: October 19, 2021, 08:46:42 AM
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Asi tirando de memoria... como indicas, la campaña de Yobit fue una de las que consiguio pintarse de rojo, ademas de conseguir banear a creo que un alto porcentaje de sus participantes. Cabe destacar que era una campaña que plago el foro de spam por no estar gestionada bien y no cumplir estandares.

La mas reciente es la de 1xbit, un casino que tiene bastantes acusaciones por ser una estafa (demostrado abundantemente) y con relacion directa con 1xbet.

Por lo general, si participas en campañas cuyos gestores sean conocidos (Yahoo, Hampuz y algunos otros) estaras pisando sobre seguro
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