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101  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 19, 2017, 08:25:37 PM
I read. You are lying

Why didn't you say you don't know how to read. From #6 in the definition: something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience.

You have this point that you believe in, or you wouldn't be promoting it so extremely much in the forum. It's your religion, by definition.

Wake up.

Cool
And since atheists don't bereave, it doesn't cover atheism
102  Other / Politics & Society / Re: After death on: February 19, 2017, 08:23:12 PM
I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.

Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found.

Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.

Cool

What, a fictional story?

Yeah I agree.

Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks.    Cool

Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Cheesy Well that would be cool Cheesy .

The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out.

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The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on.

BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda.

Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others.

He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me?

You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth.

Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

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I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. 

Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief.

So what do you do..... sprout your crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572

All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does.

If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death.

I know I can do that.... but can you?


You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me.

Cool

No.... it's about you.

So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas.

Good working with you!

Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated.

The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God.

Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things.

Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day.

Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

Cool

Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to.

That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God".

You appear to be desperate to prove your point.

Good luck squire.

LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how.

However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up.

Cool

Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points.

1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF?
2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF?

Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion.

Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists.

Cool
Linki 1 says pretty much nothing
Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning.
link 3 is bs
Link 4  breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up
103  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 19, 2017, 08:20:24 PM
Free people in this world does not exist. I'm an atheist and my mind is free from religious beliefs, but religion fit into our lives by signing a contract with the state. So free from religion in this society to be impossible.

Your atheism is your religion. Check out the definition of religion - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - to see this.

Cool

It didn't say anything about atheism. Your link is about religion

Are you saying that you are not an atheist? Who cares? The fact that you have firmly embedded beliefs within yourself shows that you are religious, and have a personal religion going for yourself. It's in the definition of religion. Take a look. I even gave you the link... even though I wasn't responding to a post of yours. Or are you v1ryspro as well as Gimpeline?

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I'm saying I don't believe. If I don't bereave in Santa, I'm not a Santa follower. I know that Santa doesn't exist, just as your God doesn't exist.
Its not religion, it's logic.


What does that have to do with anything? Lots of people believe stuff that is not true. Otherwise there wouldn't be any accidents or plane crashes.

Don't believe the proof that God exists. Understand it, so that you pass from believing to knowing.

Cool
There is no proof. I have asked you over and over again to show me the peer rewired paper and so far you have not delivered.
104  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: February 19, 2017, 08:15:33 PM
Still lying
105  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: February 19, 2017, 08:15:01 PM
No it isn't. Stop lying
106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 19, 2017, 08:14:21 PM
I read. You are lying
107  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 19, 2017, 08:13:17 PM
Free people in this world does not exist. I'm an atheist and my mind is free from religious beliefs, but religion fit into our lives by signing a contract with the state. So free from religion in this society to be impossible.

Your atheism is your religion. Check out the definition of religion - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - to see this.

Cool

It didn't say anything about atheism. Your link is about religion

Are you saying that you are not an atheist? Who cares? The fact that you have firmly embedded beliefs within yourself shows that you are religious, and have a personal religion going for yourself. It's in the definition of religion. Take a look. I even gave you the link... even though I wasn't responding to a post of yours. Or are you v1ryspro as well as Gimpeline?

Cool
I'm saying I don't believe. If I don't bereave in Santa, I'm not a Santa follower. I know that Santa doesn't exist, just as your God doesn't exist.
Its not religion, it's logic.
108  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 19, 2017, 08:06:16 PM
what I've experienced atheists think that religion is a social issue and believe that religion is the cause of war,violence, and such. When most religions are against such things. I just want to know why atheists have to think this way and why cant all people just live to respect each other and why atheists believe that the sooner religion is gone the better.

Part of the reason is that atheists have been hurt by someone in a formal religion. They just want to get away from being hurt. So, they try to claim that atheism is not a religion. They forget that the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - shows that any belief that people have is part of their personal religion.

Then atheists try to say that their atheism is not believing that God does not exist, but is simply the absence of belief that God does exist. So atheists try to get away from religion by forming a religion of non-belief. Now they have 3 religions:
1. atheism;
2. a religion of non-religion;
3. a religion of non-belief.

Unfortunately for them, they cannot get away from religion except by dying.

Cool
Stop lying, That link is about religion, not atheism
109  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: February 19, 2017, 08:05:21 PM
No, science is a belief system based on any evidence which is present in the world as to how things work.  Science can be interpreted through the perspective of several different religions (for instance, I wouldn't see any theists deny the concept of gravity, they would just believe that it was created by God or gods).  Religion is more of a theory based on perspective of the world - one could argue that everything discovered through science was created by God as God is supposed to be an eternal being who has always existed and therefore could even have created, for example, the Big Bang.

Even atheism isn't a religion, it's just the absence of religion and is therefore a default of sorts, although arguably some branches of atheism are religions in themselves (humanism, satanism etc).

But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe.

According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion.

Cool

Stop lying. That link is about religion, not atheism.
110  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 19, 2017, 08:03:01 PM
Free people in this world does not exist. I'm an atheist and my mind is free from religious beliefs, but religion fit into our lives by signing a contract with the state. So free from religion in this society to be impossible.

Your atheism is your religion. Check out the definition of religion - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - to see this.

Cool

It didn't say anything about atheism. Your link is about religion
111  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: February 19, 2017, 07:58:09 PM


A joke book! What a grand idea.

Cool

Here is a joke for you to put in it Chuckles.....


How many religious people does it take to change a light bulb?

None. They just sit in the dark and demand you accept that the light is still on.

Christians don't need the light bulb. They have the light of the Gospel. But atheists don't even know that they are in the dark... even when the light is working.

Cool

The Gospel are bullshit.
Christians have bullshit, Atheist have knowledge
112  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 16, 2017, 07:32:05 AM
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Miners will loose profit..

Miners will lose profit from ONCHAIN transactions fees, due to LN taking the majority of transactions OFFCHAIN.

Are you blind or just stupid, where you can't understand that.

LN will Steal Transactions fees from the Miners.

or are you another Dufus , that thinks Offchain is more trustworthy than ONCHAIN.


 Cool

Bullshit. Itsw segwit we are talking about not LN. How is Segwit stealing from miners?

Geez,
feels like I am teaching kindergarden.

LN is waiting on segwit, no segwit and odds are LN will not work as promised.

IF LN is working an unlimited number of transaction fees will then be processed offline.
BTC onchain miners will not receive fees for the BTC that LN has locked in place.
(LN secret goal is to LOCK all BTC in place and only have Offchain Transactions).
Once they have starved the onchain miners of enough revenue, they go bankrupt, LN operations will start a small asics farm to process their transactions.
Since LN makes all of their money offchain with no competition, they can run some asics to keep the ONCHAIN running at a deficient, therefore making them the only one that can afford to be BTC miners.  Wink

In simple terms for you.
LN makes Money OFFCHAIN, cause BTC miners to Lose Money, LN completely takes over BTC by making ONCHAIN mining unprofitable for everyone.  Wink

Now go play with your crayons.   Cheesy

 Cool
Please read up on what segwit is.
Here is a good article
https://achow101.com/2016/04/Segwit-FUD-Clearup
Segwit is not LN.
It's 2 diffrent things.
LN can work with or without segwit.
113  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 15, 2017, 08:40:02 PM
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Miners will loose profit..

Miners will lose profit from ONCHAIN transactions fees, due to LN taking the majority of transactions OFFCHAIN.

Are you blind or just stupid, where you can't understand that.

LN will Steal Transactions fees from the Miners.

or are you another Dufus , that thinks Offchain is more trustworthy than ONCHAIN.


 Cool

Bullshit. Itsw segwit we are talking about not LN. How is Segwit stealing from miners?
114  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 14, 2017, 08:33:45 PM
blah blah bu vs core blah blah blah

meanwhile over 60% are smarter and on neither side. yet some troll want to throw anyone not kissing blockstreams ass.. into a BU camp

MEGA FAIL if bitcoin understanding.

time you learned
consensus.

also even without killing the parent.. a child can be a orphan just by being rejected. real world orphanages are not just places whre kids whos parents have died are placed. (learn real world logic)

you can play with buzzwords and rebrand things all you like. but to real people that look beyond the buzzword games of twisting the narative. the truth speaks for itself

Yeah, as I said. the truth is is his holly book. (or in this case holly code)
115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 14, 2017, 08:06:38 PM
less than 2 years ago, CB actually advocated for dynamic blocks.. then all a sudden his care of bitcoin diminished and he went to defending the blockstream "elitist developers"



2years ago. You really have to dig out really history to make a point.
A lot can happen in 2 years
Seems like the BU people are working with the theory "repeating a lie makes it true" since they are spamming the same bs in every thread.
Often with quotes. Nice way to raise your post-count without really typing anything. Its just copy/paste and move on.
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Miners will loose profit..
gmaxwell is part of the "new world order" or something like that
BU is really leading and core is blocking while the statistic is showing something else
China supports BU, and they are over 50% of the miners, while the statistic shows that only 18% of the miners support BU
The ABCD-what-ever attack that have been copy-pasted all over the place.
same BS over and over again
The crappy code fork that happened a few days ago that BU tries to blame core for. (Yes, I know. Franky don't know the difference between orphan and invalid blocks, but he sure like to copy paste that crap)
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It is like arguing with really fanatic religious people.
"My book says this, so reality must be wrong."

Please come up with something new
116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should governments allow people to pay their taxes in Bitcoin BTC? on: February 10, 2017, 07:56:23 PM
Not sure why so many people are against having this option?
If the government allows taxes being paid with Bitcoin, that doesn't mean that they gain any control over Bitcoin in any way.

So I'd say yes and on top of that, I think one Swiss city is already accepting Bitcoin to pay for government services.
Source: http://www.coindesk.com/swiss-city-bitcoin-payments-government-services/

The swiss have a government of the people. Something the rest of the world don't have.
117  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are terrorists only muslim in religion? on: February 10, 2017, 07:42:26 PM
No, of course not. It is not true that the terrorists are from the muslim in religion. They can be from other religion holder also.
Name me any religion with so many terrorists!

Germany.
Hitler was christian (Catholic),and he started the second world war...
118  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 10, 2017, 07:31:10 PM
Yep, it's funny how this dumbass is claiming sidechains will lead to fractional reserve because bitcoins will be generated out of thin air (fails to understand the 1way peg mechanism) and then he thinks splitting the blockchain in 2, which would actually for real create 21 million new fucking coins out of thin air (as we would have BTC and BUL for the BUcoin) is an excellent idea.

These guys not only fail to understand the technology, but they fail at game theory too.

though the guy "realbitcoin" has not yet grasped the finer details.

it seems cellard you have been drinking too much of the r/bitcoin blockstream koolaid. and you are not grasping bitcoin either.

it is BLOCKSTREAM AKA core paid devs and their unpaid interns that are going to cause an intentional split.
not any other dev teams or implementations
BLOCKSTREAM are getting heavy handed with the ban hammer, not the other dev teams

i can tell you are part of the r/bitcoin script reader because you are using the BUCOIN term .. yet its core that are the ones activating the ban hammer. making blockstream segwit nodes use what becomes BSCoin bcause blockstream trigger it.
leaving what on the BSCOIN network all controlled by one centralist for-profit corporation.

where old native (including old native core nodes) being banned/blocked by BScoin.

other dev teams want to use the network consensus. to keep the 12+ diverse implementations working side by side. but blockstream devs want everything using their code and willing to split the network to get it.



secondly although sidechains only has X "in circulation". there will be more than X in existance.
in a sidechain swap. BITCOINS are not destroyed when a side chain coin is created. bitcoins are LOCKED. in short. vaulted into a reserve and not used in circulation. and then the 'credit' is distributed into circulation on a sidechain
So the majority should get in line with the 5% that want BU.. Sounds fair.
You should really write a book about your conspiracy theory. I think it would be a best seller
119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should governments allow people to pay their taxes in Bitcoin BTC? on: February 10, 2017, 07:02:42 PM
I hope it never happens. Think of all the "know you customer" crap we have now, It's hard to buy bitcoin without getting a anal probe. Think how it will be if the state is the one collecting.
120  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are terrorists only muslim in religion? on: February 10, 2017, 06:54:43 PM
For a good man to do bad things you need religion.
The only terrorist we have had so far in my area was Brevik. He's christian.
At the moment, there is a bigger threat from the extreme Muslims, but extreme Christians isn't much better
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