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121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UNESCO declares Islam as the most peaceful religion of the world on: February 10, 2017, 06:39:20 PM
If I remember right, Saudi Arabia is the head of the UN human rights section so I'm not surprised  Roll Eyes
122  Economy / Reputation / Re: Lauda should be banned as a campaign manager? on: February 08, 2017, 06:14:39 PM
This is getting stupid. One of the best mods we have had, one miss step and threads all over the place about banning him from everything
123  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1MB block size forever is just silly on: February 06, 2017, 08:24:04 PM
And since only 5% of the nodes and a minority of the miners support BU, core should win?

neither side wins..
rules stay the same until consensus is met.

learn consensus

Learn logic
124  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1MB block size forever is just silly on: February 06, 2017, 08:13:25 PM
who wants to keep blocksize at 1mb? I was under the impression bitcoin was meant to scale.

Increasing block size wont scale anything. You get scaling when two processes can work in the same time without waiting on the other.

With blockchain it would mean two or more blocks could be mined in the same time without waiting or depending on each other.

Increasing block size or decreasing block time increases throughtput but doesn't increase scaling.

 The only one valid next block concept prevent true scaling , as all miners/stakers need to synch on the next block, and cant "advance" The blockchain each on their side.

learn consensus
there would be only one chain. and NODES decide the rules... not pools, not devs.

one chain that the limits change when NODES signal they can cope (meaning no 'datacentre by midnight/gigabyte by midnight' doomsdays)
then pools secondarily start making blocks to the size the node consensus agrees to.

And since only 5% of the nodes and a minority of the miners support BU, core should win?
125  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we trust bitcoin long term with BUcoin type hard forks menacing around? on: February 06, 2017, 07:35:01 PM
The majority (Core) wants to make the BU fork.... Makes sence
126  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 06, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
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So who the hell is still supporting BU?

I support BU. 

Bitcoin Unlimited is a tool to allow node operators and miners to more easily configure their nodes' blocksize limits and signal their preferences to the network.  This is what we need right now.
There's not so many people like you who supports Unlimited. It has so many flaws and It's not been even tested properly. Why do you think the minority may dictate the majority?

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minority may dictate the majority?

This is what Core does, Core wants to rule everyone, and decide for 100% what bitcoin is and does, and what direction it takes.  

BU wants to give power to miners and nodes, and therefore brings bitcoin back to its original design. A lot more people have power, and everyone can get power, because everyone can buy a miner and run a node. But it does take an investment. So it's kind of "Proof of stake" and that's a good thing. Because it makes sure that the people who call the shots have an investment in bitcoin and want bitcoin to succeed, otherwise they lose their invested money.  

The Core devs haven't invested anything except time into bitcoin. And if bitcoin fails the Core devs can still get a job in the tech industry, so they don't have anything to lose. However, the miners invested millions of dollars, and if bitcoin fails, they will have lost millions of dollars in mining hardware that is now useless. Therefore, miners should decide the future of bitcoin, not the core devs. 
This is also how satoshi designed bitcoin in the first place.

And since only 5% of the nodes go with BU, after your logic with "giving the power back to the nodes and the miners", Bitcoin should go with core instead of the failed, bugged BU code?
127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1MB block size forever is just silly on: February 06, 2017, 07:09:47 PM
It's really simple: don't turn up into Bitcoin, proposing to change the parts of Bitcoin that keep Bitcoin safe, then accuse the original Bitcoiners of tribalism when they dare to voice opposition! You're retarded if you really believe this nonsense
Quite ironic, isn't it?

Great idea: try to start a tribe.... inside a pre-existing tribe, then label the dissenters as invaders. These people are past immoral

so
satoshi qt the original tribe.. then in 2013 another tribe within the pre-existing tribe starts, call it core.. which then tribals off again in 2014 as blockstream.. with 'white chief poking-bear' as tribal leader
then label the dissenters (those that are not old qt) as the invaders is immoral.

i think CB doesnt understand the word ironic, otherwise he would realise he is defending the immoral tribe he tries to describe.

why is it blockstream defenders play the victim card by doing the exact thing they point at others. especially when its obvious that al they care about is tribal leaders and not the whole bitcoin community

We get it
You think Blockstream is New world order and all that stuff
Let's get back to topic, shall we?
128  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: February 05, 2017, 07:55:56 PM
....blah, blah, science 'proofs' God, no it doesn't, yes it does, blah, blah...


You don't get it.  There is no afterlife.  Jesus is a myth.

Stop the nonsense.  Love other people, contribute to humanity.  

Stop wasting time on nonsense.  Live life, you got only one life, so enjoy it before it is too late.


No, it is you who just don't get it. Science proves God exists. And once you get to this scientific knowledge, then you can go the rest of the way, and prove the Bible is truth. Then you can believe the things about Jesus that God tells us in the Bible. But, you don't have to do any of this, right?

Cool

Are you sure Bible is Godly?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

We must be reading from a different Bible.  The one I read is a collection of some quite disturbing verses.

Your God would spend most of his life in jail or be on the death row for the crazy shit he recommends in the Bible.
But you forgot the part about how God is God. This means that when yuo contradict Him, you are the one who is in danger of spending time in jail.



Why don't you follow the Bible BADecker?  Why don't you kill anyone who works on Sabbath?  Why don't you kill gays where ever you can find them?  Why don't you cut off hands of women who touch other man's junk, why you are not stoning women who sleep around?  Why don't you kill children who disobey their parents?  Why don't you kill sinners?

Why are you not following what is recommended in the Bible?  Why are you not doing what your God tells you?  You'll surely burn in hell since you are not doing it.

Why?  Because you are not completely crazy.  Your 'God' is.  More precisely, 40+ authors who wrote this vile POS were lunatics.
Do you see how mixed up you are? No? I'll tell you. The only, Only, ONLY people God gave these commands to was ancient Israel. Since nobody is part of ancient Israel anymore, these commands are meant to be followed by nobody.

Do you know what this means? This means that I am following God's commands by not following these commands of God.



Most people do not know what is in the 'holy books', if they did, they would burn/ban these books.

The easiest way to become an Atheist is to read the 'holy books'.  Anyone with half a brain can figure out that these 'holy farmer's almanacs' are just ancient poetry.  Nothing to do with reality or modern moral and ethical standards.

Building a delusion around a 'holy book' is a slippery slope to become a suicide bomber.


The Bible is reality. Anybody who wants to ban the Bible wants to ban reality. Consider this. The way we make war today is a lot more war-like than ancient Israel ever thought of. God was bringing about peace for His people. Just because you are naive and inexperienced at the reality of life, doesn't mean that you will always be able to escape it.

Cool
I wonder if you have read the bible. God started more wars than Obama. He is the God of terror, not peace
He got mad when Israel went to war and forgot to kill the enemy's kids, and take their wife's as sex slaves.
The "loving God" in the bible is a complete asshole

Your avatar doesn't have a hat. So you are just talking through yours.

Cool
So show the evidence. So far you have said that it exist, but you have not showed what it is.
There is no paper that prove that there is a magic sky daddy.
And even if it did, there is millions of made up goods.
What make you think that that your sky daddy is the right one
Because your made up sky daddy say it in his book?
The bible is pretty new when it comes to holly books. (Its also one of the most retarded ones)
What make you think your sky daddy is the right one?
129  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: February 03, 2017, 07:54:04 PM
....blah, blah, science 'proofs' God, no it doesn't, yes it does, blah, blah...


You don't get it.  There is no afterlife.  Jesus is a myth.

Stop the nonsense.  Love other people, contribute to humanity.  

Stop wasting time on nonsense.  Live life, you got only one life, so enjoy it before it is too late.


No, it is you who just don't get it. Science proves God exists. And once you get to this scientific knowledge, then you can go the rest of the way, and prove the Bible is truth. Then you can believe the things about Jesus that God tells us in the Bible. But, you don't have to do any of this, right?

Cool

Are you sure Bible is Godly?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

We must be reading from a different Bible.  The one I read is a collection of some quite disturbing verses.

Your God would spend most of his life in jail or be on the death row for the crazy shit he recommends in the Bible.
But you forgot the part about how God is God. This means that when yuo contradict Him, you are the one who is in danger of spending time in jail.



Why don't you follow the Bible BADecker?  Why don't you kill anyone who works on Sabbath?  Why don't you kill gays where ever you can find them?  Why don't you cut off hands of women who touch other man's junk, why you are not stoning women who sleep around?  Why don't you kill children who disobey their parents?  Why don't you kill sinners?

Why are you not following what is recommended in the Bible?  Why are you not doing what your God tells you?  You'll surely burn in hell since you are not doing it.

Why?  Because you are not completely crazy.  Your 'God' is.  More precisely, 40+ authors who wrote this vile POS were lunatics.
Do you see how mixed up you are? No? I'll tell you. The only, Only, ONLY people God gave these commands to was ancient Israel. Since nobody is part of ancient Israel anymore, these commands are meant to be followed by nobody.

Do you know what this means? This means that I am following God's commands by not following these commands of God.



Most people do not know what is in the 'holy books', if they did, they would burn/ban these books.

The easiest way to become an Atheist is to read the 'holy books'.  Anyone with half a brain can figure out that these 'holy farmer's almanacs' are just ancient poetry.  Nothing to do with reality or modern moral and ethical standards.

Building a delusion around a 'holy book' is a slippery slope to become a suicide bomber.


The Bible is reality. Anybody who wants to ban the Bible wants to ban reality. Consider this. The way we make war today is a lot more war-like than ancient Israel ever thought of. God was bringing about peace for His people. Just because you are naive and inexperienced at the reality of life, doesn't mean that you will always be able to escape it.

Cool
I wonder if you have read the bible. God started more wars than Obama. He is the God of terror, not peace
He got mad when Israel went to war and forgot to kill the enemy's kids, and take their wife's as sex slaves.
The "loving God" in the bible is a complete asshole
130  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: February 03, 2017, 06:30:18 AM
You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place Grin
For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system. - The universe is an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity. - Entropy and complexity are in opposite categories.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God.  God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated. - God, being outside of the universe, is not controlled by the laws of the universe, except if His laws state such. God does not necessarily need to have a cause.

You got anything else? - same stuff, that you continue to talk around rather than rebutting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.


Your God is really the 'unknown'.  It is definitely not a blond haired, blue eyed, English speaking Jew. - Obviously God is unknown to or by you. However, as I have often posted, the scientific proof for God does not explain much about Him in detail. So, yes. He is mostly unknown by the proof for His existence. BTW, thanks for starting to admit that He exists.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

I acknowledge God, in part because of the proofs that I have shown... He exists.

I believe in God, in part, because I believe the things that He has said in the Bible, His Word. Believing in God is like trusting in Him. You can't believe or trust in something that you won't acknowledge the existence of.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify and strengthen the knowledge that God exists, again, by your not being able to rebut it.

Cool

That is fine.  But remember...

1. Your proof does not proof the existence of God. - The proof I show is scientific proof, not my proof.
2. Bible is a collection of some vile, Bronze Age horseshit. - The Bible is the expression of correcting the corruption of mankind. You seem to be expressing a like for the corruption by talking against the Bible.

Anyway, it does not matter that you believe in nonsense.  It is your life, your choice.  Since science has proven that God exists, my beliefs are affect by my knowledge of God.

Just don't hurt others, don't rape anyone, don't scam people etc.

When you are a good guy by not raping, hurting others, or scamming people, you aren't good enough to get eternal life. You still need Jesus salvation. Do the thing that is important - believe in Jesus - or you will not only lose life, but will also gain Hellfire.

Cool

You don't get it.  There is no afterlife.  Jesus is a myth.

Stop the nonsense.  Love other people, contribute to humanity. 

Stop wasting time on nonsense.  Live life, you got only one life, so enjoy it before it is too late.


No, it is you who just don't get it. Science proves God exists. And once you get to this scientific knowledge, then you can go the rest of the way, and prove the Bible is truth. Then you can believe the things about Jesus that God tells us in the Bible. But, you don't have to do any of this, right?

Cool

If science have proven it, then there should be a peer-rewied paper about it. There isn't.
repeating a lie dosent make it true.
131  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is there truest religion? on: February 02, 2017, 08:04:08 PM
I put all my trust in the flying spaghetti monster.
The only church haven't gone to war for their beliefs.

flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist

And how do you know that?
132  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 02, 2017, 07:47:04 PM

I find it really, really frustrating that you have a room full of otherwise hyperintelligent people, who were told in very clear terms by the Chinese miners what those miners want about a year ago (a hardfork increasing the max blocksize limit for the present type of transactions to at least 2 megabytes), and today, you have the same people asking in frustration why Chinese miners are not adopting segwit when those miners said in bright blinking cleartext a year ago what it is they want, and it is not segwit.

Do you think we must be controlled by Chinese miners? I would prefer decentralization

Do you think we must be controlled by Blockstream employees? The Chinese miners have stated their wishes to up the blocksize and Blockstream blocked their request. Now the Chinese miners are blocking Blockstream's changes. Bitcoin is still Bitcoin, and Segwit won't be adopted. Now we need to move forward and increase the blocksize so people can reliably transact with bitcoin. Thanks

Its too early to say. Segwit's activation is in October if I remember right. Over half a year away.
Hopefully by then some of the miners will realize that their support for the bugged, failed BU code costs them money and they will come to the other side. Roger Wer already lost 12000$ on his failed code, and it has only been active a couple of months, in half a year he will be broke and cant pay his disciples.
So relax. BU will fail and Bitcoin will live
133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is there truest religion? on: February 02, 2017, 06:59:12 PM
I put all my trust in the flying spaghetti monster.
The only church haven't gone to war for their beliefs.
134  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Nash created bitcoin on: February 02, 2017, 06:44:43 PM
I think no one expects the spanish inquisition made Bitcoin because

135  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your biggest bitcoin regrets? on: February 02, 2017, 06:05:19 PM
Invested in a cloudminig site back when the first started to pop up.
Needless to say, those money went *poof*
136  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SegWit yay or nay? come vote here. on: February 01, 2017, 08:39:58 PM
And 200 of them prob. run by Ver himself ....
I wouldn't go as far as saying that Ver is running them, but considering what happened with Bitcoin Classic it wouldn't surprise me to find out that a single entity is running a majority of those.

It has zero comments.

It's easy to see that there are a number of arguments for and against SegWit.
There are very few reasonable arguments against Segwit.

In fact it is difficult to know the best solution at the moment, especially for something that has never been tested.
1) There is no alternative solution.
2) Segwit has been extensively tested on the testnet. If Litecoin adopts it, then that will be the next step.

Well. there is always Frankys A-B-C-D-X theory that has been debunked to hell and back. I'm sure he will re-post it again shortly.
137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you remember the very first time you sent a Bitcoin transaction? on: February 01, 2017, 08:11:16 PM
Edit: Wrong thread
138  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Are The Top 5 Favourite Websites Of Bitcointalk.org Members? on: February 01, 2017, 07:26:09 PM
I could list a few porn sites, but since it might be minors here, I better not
139  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 01, 2017, 07:21:18 PM
I havent seen any evidence that LN will be a permissioned ledger, are you sure that LN will have a trust element to it?

Because in that case it sounds very very bad. I dont want it.

LN uses mutisigs..
its not the legacy way of you make a transaction, you sign and you send..

its a joint party thing. like a joint bank account. requiring 2 signatures.
you cant move it without someone else.. = their permission required

But as I have heard about it, it was marketed as something decentralized. Explain to me.

its falsely promoted as 'independant multisigs'
imagine we had 5 people A,B,C,D,E

A and B connect up as a multisig..
B does more business, B also connect to C
C also connect to D
Dd also connect to E
 
A->B
B->C
C->D
D->E

for someone to get from A-E they need to pass through B, C, D because A doesnt directly connect to E
^this above is the promotion people hop their funds around, .. and take a fee per hop if they are the middleman^

here is the problem and blockstreams known chain of events to gain them hub dominance to repay their investors

for someone to get from A-E they need to pass through B, C, D because A doesnt directly connect to E
so A needs to pay B. and
A needs to pay C and
A needs to pay D to ensure A reaches E

costing A 4 hops

so what A does instead is when the contract times out. they avoid the hop method and find hub X which has multiple data streams to everyone.
A - X - E
   / | \
 B  C  D

instead of
A-B-C-D-E

now A can travel to E just by paying X twice
a-> X
X-> e

much cheaper than 4 fee's of the hop concept
a->b
b->c
c->d
d->e

blockstream want to 'default' fee hop at, lets say y*100 and then offer hub at y*10 thus instead of costing a 500y using hops.. it would only cost 20y using hub

you will probably see that they twist the hop= y*100 because hops are less common so cost are higher.. many node users wanting income would applaud them for rewarding them more.. but that reward is a actually a twisted sales pitch of a punishment to make hops expensive and undesirable...
 
now blocktream becomes the hub and gets all the fee's to repay back the $90m investment. which they are getting desperate need to release ln before investors make demand..

Here we go again....
Can't you come up with something new?
140  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Post your SegWit questions here - open discussion - big week for Bitcoin! on: February 01, 2017, 07:14:27 PM
62% of listening nodes are signaling segwit support right now.
a) How does non-mining node signal anything?
b) Who cares?


The miners will have support of the 5% of nodes that is signaling BU support.
How do you think the network will work with 5% node support?
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