I see the team has a new coin, if I were to invest €2500 into Gulden or Florin which one would you go for. Reading the comments it looks like Florin is the one to invest in from this team.  Gulden feels better because I can buy 275 000 coins and not much florin but I do understand florin supply is waaaayy smaller.

I was a massive fan of this coin since 2016 and then my wallet with over 2 million coins got corrupted end of 2018 and didn't have any backups!! Fucking sucked but I am over it. I like the new wallets half forcing you to write down a passphrase.

I can't believe the development team pulled off the PoW2 and SegSig update!!! I started to worry around November 2017 that it wasn't going to happen but good thing I checked in. Price of this coin has always been behind the curve, I remember discussions about some early adopters wanting to keep the price down on purpose. Wouldn't surprise me if this was still happening?!?

https://dev.gulden.com/a-peek-inside-the-development-process/

Phase 1 – Gulden 2.0 will be released, it will function exactly like an upgraded 1.6 at this point with no PoW² functionality present yet. Upgraded miners will signal for an upgrade, when 75% of miners are signalling the software will activate phase 2.
(Expected to last at most a week or two – depending on miners)

Phase 2 – A new special backwards compatible transaction script type will become available to upgraded (2.0) users which will allow them to create witnessing addresses. Old (1.6) users will verify these scripts but won’t be able to create or use them.
Once a minimum threshold is reached (200 or more witnessing accounts with a combined weight of 20 million or more) we will enter

Phase 3.
(Expected to last at most a week or two – depending on coin holders)
Phase 3 – PoW² witnessing commences, with a few limitations that allow old (1.6) users to remain on the network (no transactions allowed yet in the witness portion of the block for instance). Witnesses and miners will automatically start signalling a percentage of how many upgraded users they are
seeing, when this percentage goes over an average of 95% for a fixed time period we will enter Phase 4.
(We anticipate that this may take several months)

Phase 4 – At this point our backwards incompatible changes trigger, new transaction format/rules activate, PoW² witnesses start to include transactions in their portion of the block, witness accounts start to switch over to a new improved backwards incompatible transaction format, new accounts using the old temporary format are no longer allowed, SegSig activates etc. The remaining 5% of 1.6.x users will no longer be able to participate in the network.

Phase 5 – After some time 2.1 will be released, code to support old witness accounts can/will be safely removed with affecting block validation – leaving us with a codebase free of technical debt. Checkpointing can also be safely removed at this point.

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https://dev.gulden.com/august-development-update/

SEGSIG – JUNE 2017

While working on the optimal way to implement the new address type, it became obvious that many parts of the codebase that need to change to accommodate this are the same parts that are affected by SegWit.

At around about the same time after watching SegWit for some time, it become clear that though the Bitcoin team had still failed to activate SegWit there was now a clear determination to do so and that one way or another SegWit in its current form -will- eventually be activated,
we therefore had to at this point give up hope that the Bitcoin team might develop a better SegWit which makes the sort of changes we were hoping for and instead accept that if we wanted this it would have to be something we do ourselves.
And so the concept of SegSig was born, we were faced with two possible paths forward:

1) Release PoW² hardfork as originally planned. (including extensive testing)
Go through the work of having everyone including exchanges and mining pools upgrade to it.
Produce SegSig as a hardfork, which involves changing a lot of the same code as PoW²
Put our testers through extensive testing once again.
Go through the work of having everyone upgrade for a second time in a short time period.



2) Combine PoW² and SegSig together into one release, despite possible delays and release it all at once.

This was not an easy decision, I am not a fan of trying to do too many things in one release as this has the potential to get out of control and normally I would prefer to try and seperate things into multiple small releases. As a developer it would have been easier for me to take option 1.

Yes this is the Mother of all updates!

I really miss the daily phishing attempts on the old slack from anonymous users, anonymous users promoting their scam coins on the back of the Gulden user base. The new slack is much better and safer for new users.

Worried a $33 million marketcap coin is better then a $90 billion and $30 billion marketcap coins?

You do know this project is like 5 times bigger then anything else released in crypto this year?

You people do realise that in the top 100 on coinmarketcap over 65 coins are non minable aka 100% premined ICOs with the majority having been added in the last 2 to 3 months.

It's the best scam out there. Own 99% of the coins and push the price to any level you want without having to worry about dumping. Once enough coins get dumped on the exchanges those ICOs will be left for dead and many more will start up.

Coinmarketcap is the last place you should be looking at for a source of truth on a currencies real performance and usage.

Another day in ICO paradise. None of these ICOs are worth more then $200 000 in valuations but they sucking a lot more value out of greedy people.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/another-day-another-scam-ecoin-plus-disappears-with-investors-cash

Scammers have found a new trick to get their coins listed straight into the top 50 on coinmarketcap. Start an ICO with 100% mined coins which they control 99%, user base I would guess is at least 100 times smaller then Guldens combined.

IOTA, Gnosis , Veritaseum, Basic Attention Token Basic, MobileGo, Ubiq, Quantum Resistant Ledger, Asch , Mysterium etc Just to name a few jumping onto the ICO bandwagon.

The Euro exchanges will solve a lot of problems for access of real users getting into Gulden.

Almost 2900 users on slack.

Gulden is > 95% users and < then 5% traders, most of the people joining slack are getting involved with any form of digital currencies for the first time and therefore they don't even know bittrex exists.

The inverse of the above is true for 99% of the other coins out there.

This type of response is why you got on the list, you are a non believer in Gulden.

You were wrong about the whitepaper, what makes you think you going to be right about anything else regarding Gulden development?

Gulden is developed for users , not for traders.

Please stay away from Gulden, it's the one coin that isn't corrupted and has done more development then basically every other coin besides Ethereum. This is a fact and why they surviving and prospering without the need for bitcointalk Pump and dumpers, scammers and con artists.

You mean 3000 coins at 1mil Satoshi. All talk and no action!

I am battling to keep up with all the conspiracy theories here. Wait for SkyNet, it's coming soon!

In reply to Konner and AltcoinFanatic, this is what I heard. A new dormant system has been put in place called SkyNet. "On the 29th August 2017 SkyNet becomes self aware and will start to dominate the Gulden blockchain in ways we never thought possible, it will manifest itself into every facet of our lives, rumour has it the nuclear launch codes for all countries will be stored in the Gulden blockchain. Rijk will be the only one with the keys to shut down SkyNet (We hope) , which will make SkyNet centralised but act in a decentralised way."

I was told this by someone on slack who sent me a message here on bitcointalk. It's anonymous but reliable source.