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461  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice's First Profit Competition! 🔶 on: May 26, 2017, 02:02:29 PM
Good luck everyone!

Cheers,
Ethan
462  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST play/invest, win 0.4 BTC in the competition! on: May 26, 2017, 01:58:55 PM
A new competition is live
3 players with most profit will win extra prizes


It's really enough that you find yourself in 3 top players that generate highest profit this week and one of the prizes is yours.

Find out more at https://yolodice.com/#bonus

463  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST play/invest, up to 30% RAKEBACK, JACKPOT, tipbot, faucet on: May 26, 2017, 09:34:25 AM
I felt happy to find 2FA in yolo, recently my liqui.io (trading platform) account got hacked so I am enabling 2FA in my all accounts. I also like to recommend all yolodice users to enable 2FA as quickly as possible.

It looks like many username and password combination of bitcoin users were compromised.  Angry

Did you use the same password in multiple places? I'm frequently getting notifications that someone tries to access my accounts, but so far I wasn't hacked not a single time. But anyway I'll install 2FA asap.

Question to YOLOdice: many sites require email confirmation for each withdrawal as additional layer of protection, are you going to implement this feature too?

Hi,

first, we did not have any case a user account was compromized, just so that you can rest assured. We also have counter-measures that protect against brute-force login attempts and from what I can see it stops atteckers for blindly cracking passwords.

I think email "security" is highly overestimated. IMHO email is THE real weak link when you think about security. Imagine any service that you don't use 2FA - an attacker that can control your email can easily reset passwords and gain access to such service.

Confirming withdrawals with email sure adds some protection, but 2FA adds much more.

Neither will protect you if your computer has been compromized via malware though. Protect your PC, login only from trusted computers, this should keep you safe.

Cheers,
Ethan
464  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST play/invest, up to 30% RAKEBACK, JACKPOT, tipbot, faucet on: May 26, 2017, 07:33:41 AM
Fully agree. It is a bit confusing Yolodice calls it "enable one-time password" though. Should just be "enable 2FA" imo.

It is "Enable 2FA" now. Thanks for the suggestion!
465  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅DuckDice.io🎲 MAX 2K Faucet🎲 3K Signup🎲120%1Dep Bonus 🎲1%Edge🎲Fair🎲Chat🎲 on: May 24, 2017, 09:35:08 AM
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Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.
Wagering contribution is 50% from bet amount.
What The Fish, Totally wagered need 110x ?

yes, however according to our unlocked bonus stats it's not very hard  Wink

If you need to wager your bonus 110 times at %1 house edge, statistically you are expected to lose your bonus (and some of your real coins) before you can withdraw it. I guess you'd have better chances of winning if you don't claim the bonus :-)

Cheers,
Ethan
466  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST play/invest, up to 30% RAKEBACK, JACKPOT, tipbot, faucet on: May 24, 2017, 07:51:21 AM
Chatting and playing just bacame a bit easier. A lot of players asked for vertically-split chat instead of horizontal split we had. I have to agree - having chat at the bottom of the page made the experience somehow... shitty.

I spent a few hours and coded a chat box that would fit at the right side of the screen (provided your screen is wide enough). Take a look:

(image archived)

I hope this will make the experience even better. Also, switching between chat channels and private messages don't lag anymore and should be close to instant.

Stay tuned for new amazing things to come!

Cheers,
Ethan
467  Other / Bitcoin Wiki / Re: Request edit privileges here on: May 22, 2017, 01:55:20 PM
user name: ethan_nx

Thanks!
468  Economy / Gambling / Re: YOLOdice.com FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 22, 2017, 10:51:42 AM

It keeps popping up:  invested coins count as "balance" for faucet purposes. It protects agains the following: open investment (balance is zero) & claim faucet & close investment & open investment (balance is zero again) & claim faucet.... This way you could systematically claim faucet available to you.

I keep thinking how to solve this. I think it would be really cool to allow investors to use the faucet to play a bit. Just judging from how the faucet is currently being used and how creative some players are finding ways to empty it, the simplest solution might not be the best one.

If you have any ideas - tell me!



Option 1 - Lock investments for X hours - usually it's 12-24 on other sites.

Option 2 - add a divest fee that changes with time - for example 5% in 24 hours, 2.5% in 7 days, 0% in 21 days

No way. I think using investor's money as hostages is a bad idea. If any site is doing this, I would stay away from it.

Now, the good news:

I just opened a YOLOdice subreddit at Reddit.com
https://www.reddit.com/r/yolodice/

Check it our, subscribe, stay up-to-date, share your stories, help us reach new players!
469  Economy / Gambling / Re: YOLOdice.com FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 22, 2017, 06:56:11 AM
investment_wagered is based on your leveraged investment, correct? So that means that you can't get more EXP by using leverage? Is there a reason for not allowing leveraged investments to gain more EXP, as the investment_wagered would be larger.



Isn't rakeback -EV for you (not talking about investors)? You take 20% commission on profits, which if the expected return = actual return, you would get only 20% of the house edge, but you would be paying 30% of the house edge to players. If a huge whale comes and wagers a lot, wouldn't this/couldn't this be unsustainable?

You are right, when calculating the XP the effect of leverage is nullified. First, this was done to provide balance between how players and investors level-up. Second, you could see it like this: investors provide funds for the bankroll. The site rewards investors not for the risk level they chose, but for the amount they put into balance.

You are right regarding EV too. We've just implemented rakeback and see how it goest and how people use it. Right now we (owners) fund it from our commission. I am going to propose some ways to fund the rakeback pretty soon. Two natural solutions are: 1. increase our commission to be able to sustain rakeback in the long term, 2. or fund rakeback directly from bankroll. Whichever we choose, investors will be notified in advance. Right now I am leaning towards (2).


I think investments counts as balance, if that is the problem.

Faucet can be claimed when your balance is zero. Maybe you have invested your balance in website. Which mean you don't have 0 satoshi in your account. Therefore, can't claim faucets.

Ok, so that is it... Thanks for your replies.

Would be nice to be able to claim on faucet even with an active investment, I let here my suggestion to YoloDice owner.  Smiley
I agree with you. Investments freeze your money, so you don't have anything to play with. The faucet gives so little that the owners wouldn't lose anything by allowing investors to claim a few satoshi. I see no reason why they faucet should be blocked.

It keeps popping up:  invested coins count as "balance" for faucet purposes. It protects agains the following: open investment (balance is zero) & claim faucet & close investment & open investment (balance is zero again) & claim faucet.... This way you could systematically claim faucet available to you.

I keep thinking how to solve this. I think it would be really cool to allow investors to use the faucet to play a bit. Just judging from how the faucet is currently being used and how creative some players are finding ways to empty it, the simplest solution might not be the best one.

If you have any ideas - tell me!

Wahou wahou wahou

Ok guys I've been out for about a month or two and when I come back...
Damn do you even sleep Ethan?
I mean those are serious big developments you've made! That's putting Yolo Dice directly in the first dice sites available that I know. It's really impressive to see how it all grows, great work Yolo team Cheesy

Thanks! Now we are ready for more players!
470  Economy / Gambling / Re: YOLOdice.com FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 19, 2017, 04:26:29 PM
   * investing - when your investments are being wagered, you earn XP

How is this calculated/how does this work? I've had 0.1 BTC invested @ leverage 10 for the last two months, and it still shows I am level 1 with 0 EXP. Surely enough was wagered to give me at least 0.0001 EXP?

My username is "Dark" if that helps.



Edit: Just found the checkbox to allow investing to award EXP. Seems kind of pointless to have people allow it?
Got my EXP now, though it would be good to know how it's calculated.

Hi,

yes, it's opt-in. Here's why: I felt revealing that a person is an investor without this person's knowledge would not be ok. Investments is a "private data", as opposed to all bets, which are public. So if you spot a person with high level, but very little wagered - it's an investor. Especially if this person suddenly jumped to level 16 :-)

That's why it's opt-in. To help privacy a bit.

Here's how it's calculated:

Code:
xp = investment_wagered / leverage

We calculate this for every investment you have (or had). investment_wagered is the amount players wagered using your investment. Suppose your investment makes 50% of the bankroll and players wagered 100 BTC, then your investment_wagered = 50 BTC.

With referrals it's even easier, you get:

Code:
xp = 0.01 * wagered_by_your_referrals

I will definitely add these explanations to the site.

Cheers,
Ethan
471  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 19, 2017, 11:11:32 AM

New updates are amazing. Was hoping for rakeback on total wagered amount but its still cool and its freemoney we get from rakeback. Was wondering if level-up via referrals could be used since beginning.

Your XP from referrals counts everything your referrals wagered so far. The same goes for investing. If you had investments or referrals in the past, this is a way to boost your level instantly.

You will be probably jeleous once you find out which level I got thanks to my investments :-) Considering my rakeback level I am really tempted to play a bit :-)

Cheers,
Ethan
472  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 19, 2017, 09:08:27 AM
Cool new updates!

Yesterday I push some new updates that you might like:

   * RAKEBACK!!! - you can get some of your wagered coins back to your balance. Rakeback starts when you wager 1BTC,   i.e. you level 7. Rakeback rate grows with every level.
   * if you are a YD player already and have wagered more than 1 BTC, there is a bonus waiting to be collected by you at https://yolodice.com/#bonus . It's not for the whole amount you wagered, (we would go bankrupt if we did this), but hey, it's free money!
   * Users can now add profile images once they reach level 4.
   * Faucet amounts have been modified and they grow every level. Some users might see a drop in faucet, some will see it increased.
   * Once you reach level 11, the faucet does not require solving st...d captchas.

Now I suppose you really want to level-up. Good news everyone - you can now level up by:

   * playing - 1 BTC wagered = 1 XP earned
   * investing - when your investments are being wagered, you earn XP
   * via referrals - you get XP points when your referrals wager.

Other changes:
 
   * minimum tip amount is now 0.0001 BTC (was 0.0005 BTC)
   * minor improvements and fixes that you probably will not notice :-)

I hope you like the changes. I can already see Chat got more lively with these colorful profile images :-) and yep, players really started using rakeback!

Cheers,
Ethan
473  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 18, 2017, 06:29:22 AM
From reading a number of posts and taking a look on your dice site I found that you are growing in a faster speed. I found that if I will also invest in your site then I will also earn a good profit from the commission you give to your investors. But before that I want to study more details about investment with you. Please provide me some details about it.

Hi,

I think the best starting points are:

https://yolodice.com/#stats/investor - investor stats, including past wagered and profit charts and data, current investment structure
https://yolodice.com/#faq - our Frequently Asked Questions, there is a section in investing too

If you need anything else, just ask!

Cheers,
Ethan
474  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 17, 2017, 09:04:27 PM
Not always positive - but been doing well every week so far Smiley

Statistically positive Wink

That's why the investment is alway a cool thing in a casino ^^

Btw, I got a question. Is there anything securing the invested funds?

Over the long term the investment will pay off nicely. Short term anything can happen. The next player could max out a bet and win. So then you lose money but it's a short term loss. After a while you will have enough built up to take losses without even losing profit at all.  That is when the investment picks up and by that time it is already long term and worth holding on to.

That's right. Statistically you can expect that site profit is 1% of site wagered. It's quite easy to calculate this on paper, it's also there in our FAQ. Imagine this is  averaged over all possible universes and scenarios, something mathematicians call "expected value". It can be off from a real-world value, but as long as people keep wagering, yep. Math is definitely on our side.

Cheers,
Ethan
475  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] YOLOdice.com Signature Campaign on: May 16, 2017, 10:16:07 PM

Hi everyone, the payments for the last week has been just sent. I am sorry about communication issues we had, I think we are up-to-speed and the spreadsheet is updated with your current ranks. Member list is also updated.

I have another person helping me count the posts in the campaign. If you find that your post count is off, let me know, we can check it!

Cheers,
Ethan
476  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 16, 2017, 06:41:02 AM
Investment commission is once per week, on Sunday evening UTC. However, if an investment did not make any profit since it was open or since the last commission, no commission is taken from it. Maybe this is what happened.

Cheers,
Ethan

How can investment make no profit? Investment always up and down right? So if there is no profit then our investment will be on lost and I believe that we will not get any commision, instead of getting commission, we will suffer some negative profit. Am I right about this? Kind of confuse about this investment thing

"no profit" = "no (positive) profit" = "zero profit or negative profit"

Sorry if my simplification caused any confusion.

Cheers and good luck!
Ethan

477  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 14, 2017, 10:11:57 PM
I think that Ethan forgot to update and deposit, this weeks investment commissions. Grin
maybe it's working on some new update...a new competition... Roll Eyes Tongue
or he is just sleeping! Cool
Referral commissions are on demand now, you're supposed to request them yourself. Smiley  If you go to the Referral page you will see a "transfer to balance button".  Now you don't have to wait for Sundays anymore Wink

If you don't have any it means your referrals didn't play.

I don't see anywhere that i write about referral commissions but for investment commissions. Undecided
As far as i know,it's not the same...
What do you mean then?  Investment commissions are instant too, unless you mean ethan_nx processing the 20% cut.  In that case I'm not sure, probably soon though.  Sorry for being confusing. xD

Investment commission is once per week, on Sunday evening UTC. However, if an investment did not make any profit since it was open or since the last commission, no commission is taken from it. Maybe this is what happened.

Cheers,
Ethan
478  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 14, 2017, 07:52:16 PM
@Beyn, @Kiritsugu:

Effective bankroll - it's the one that includes "virutal" coins that come from leverage. Real bankroll - it's the amount actually invested.

If you invest 1 BTC on x10 leverage, it contributes 10 BTC to the effective bankroll, but 1 BTC to the real bankroll. We call reall bankroll just "bankroll".

Now, shares you investment get you is the ration of leveraged amount of your investment to the effective bankroll. Right now the site has 3,500 BTC effective bankroll, but only 399 BTC real bankroll. Your 1 BTC x10 investment would give you 10/3500 ~= 0.2857 % share in profits.

This is the real leverage system. If you leverage is larger than 1, we "lend" you virtual coins that are reflected only in effective bankroll. This way your investment is more sensitive to site profit changes.

The system automatically closes the investments that cannot be sustained. If your 1BTC x10 investment was worth 10 BTC at the beginning (in eff. bankroll), but it's value drops to 9 BTC (in eff. bankroll), it cannot be susteined anymore, because it's this 1 BTC you invested is gone. It's very similar to Forex trading.

Finally, a generalized rule is that x10 investment can sustain site loss equal to 10% of effective bankroll. This makes sense. Look above - your 1BTC x10 investment reduces to 9 BTC when site loses 10% of it's effective bankroll.

In general, the higher the leverage, the more "sensitive" is your investment to site profit/loss. It's a nice thing when site profit goes up (you can earn up to 10x more than a x1 investment), but when site profit goes down, your investment loses 10 times faster than a x1 investment.

This system is consistent and works. It does not allow a situation when we (me and Scott) have to add anything to the bankroll or pay investors because suddenly a debts is created.

So far, if you started with a 1 BTC x1 investment when YD launched, you would earn ~10% and end up with 1.1BTC. If you invested your 1 BTC with x10 leverage, you would end up with ~100% revenue, close to 2 BTC.

I hope this helps. Our FAQ has more examples on investing with leverage.

Cheers,
Ethan
479  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST bets, chat, play & invest, 2x1 BTC JACKPOT PROMO! on: May 11, 2017, 05:23:03 PM
Just a reminder: the current wagering competition is about to end in ~ 3h. The main prize is 0.6 BTC, but the top-player has wagered no more ~37.6 BTC. You can still join it!

480  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice's 4th Wagering Competition! 1 BTC in prizes! 🔶 on: May 09, 2017, 01:08:43 PM
Only two days left. The current top prize (0.6 BTC) makes the competition in favor of the player. The top wagering player is now at only 30.3 BTC wagered.

Cheers and good luck!
Ethan
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