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1  Other / Archival / Re: closed on: February 15, 2014, 04:01:51 PM
Yep, my withdrawal just went through as well. Looks like they just posted an announcement about it too.
2  Other / Archival / Re: closed on: February 15, 2014, 01:55:02 PM
I keep getting "Wallet is currently offline, please try again later" when I try to withdraw DVC. I've been trying several times an hour for several hours now... anyone else getting this?
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: February 13, 2014, 09:32:14 AM
Please make it work with new code which is ported to 0.8.5, but it will have to be forward ported again to 0.9.0 when we merge that code in later. We are just testing the merged-blocks are backwards compatible across clients. The windows client is in test mode, and linux client can be built aswell from source...

I did the android wallet based on 0.8.5 aswell... are there changes in Armory after 0.8.5? Otherwise you can use this code as your client to test with. (version is now 70001 from 032501 or whatever)

How are you going about it? just adding the merged-mine parsing, and do similar adaptions that the client did with bitcion -> devcoin?

Okay sounds good. As far as I can tell most of the substantial changes were in 0.8.x; there are lots of places in the code that reference that version. I just started working on it, so I got it talking to devcoind, and reading the blocks from blk0001.dat instead of the blocks folder, but I'm realizing that most of the changes I'm making to get it to read devcoin blocks are just reverting changes that were made for post 0.8 bitcoin. I think it will be a lot easier once I get the 0.8.5 based devcoind built.

I guess I'm not fully aware of all of the difference between the devcoin and bitcoin blockchains, I assumed that all I would have to change is parsing of the receiver files - although Armory interfaces directly with bitcoind/devcoind, so maybe that would be handled by devcoind rather than by Armory. If I have any trouble I'll definitely refer to your Android wallet or send you a PM.

Now I'm going to see if I can the new 0.8.5 wallet compiled on Ubuntu. Smiley


For what it's worth, I have the 0.8.5 devcoind compiled and running on Ubuntu 12.04, got the whole blockchain downloaded successfully and I imported my wallet and the balance looks normal. Anything specific you'd like me to test?

Btw is there anyway to compile Devcoin-Qt on Linux? Or is that not supported yet? I'm getting a lot of errors when trying to use the "" with QTCreator.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: February 12, 2014, 07:38:29 PM
Hey all, what's the status of porting Devcoin to the 0.8 source? From what I can tell there is a Windows build, but nothing for Linux yet?

I've been working on making Armory work with Devcoin and it looks like Armory already removed a bunch of support for older versions of Bitcoin. If I spend time making Armory work again, I may just have to change it back when Devcoin is updated to the newest source. Should I wait til the new wallet is ready or just move forward making Armory work with the current Devcoin?
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Receiver 32 on: February 12, 2014, 09:40:55 AM
The round 32 receiver files have been uploaded to: [...]

There were 1587 original receiver lines, so the average number of devcoins per share is 180,000,000 dvc / 1587 = 113,422 dvc. Administrator pay is 218.0 shares, 13.7 percent of the total. The value at vircurex is 0.9 mcbtc/dvc, which works out to 0.102 btc. This times the bitstamp price of 662$ gives a share price of 68$. shows 119,442 dvc/share (with 1508 shares) for round 32. Is this a bug in the DVC countdown? Or a miscalculation somewhere?
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: July 12, 2013, 10:15:16 AM
how do I get on the developer list? Id liketo take more of a developer and or administrator role as I believe in the long term potential of dvc. I write software for a living.

Are you talking about becoming a devcoin developer or earning devcoins for a separate open source project? If you want to earn devcoins for open source development there are instructions in the first post of the thread:

To get on a donation list to receive shares of devcoin, an open source developer should message the share administrator or post in this thread. For more information on developer shares, see the devtome page.

Make sure to check out the devtome page in that quote for the requirements.
7  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Deprived Mining Speculation (DMS) on: July 11, 2013, 02:04:32 AM
just as an information:

Current Difficulty:  21335330.00   

Estimated next difficulty:  26004984.65

Difficulty Est % Change: 21.89%

Retarget Distance: 0d 13hr 40m

So the DIVIDEND OF SELLING will be pretty high this time including The investment winnings.

Yes, my estimate based on and the latest NAV/U is 0.00805837 BTC/share. That's 25.84% of your investment!!
8  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: - Bet Bitcoins on PacMan, Tetris, Snake & Others | 50% Referral on: July 10, 2013, 11:45:26 AM
A worms clone would be something I'd very much like to see and play for coins. It's not really that retro but who cares?

Amazing idea! And the first Worms was made in 1995... is that not retro enough?
9  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Deprived Mining Speculation (DMS) on: July 10, 2013, 09:36:19 AM
Deprived, not sure if you answered this already, but have you looked into automating the transfer of PURCHASE to MINING+SELLING shares?
10  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: - Bet Bitcoins on PacMan, Tetris, Snake & Others | 50% Referral on: July 03, 2013, 11:57:29 AM
Same for tetris modes: we'll start only with Sprint, and then add all others modes.

Awesome. Sprint sounds perfect to start. Smiley
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin Logo Vote - Moderated on: July 02, 2013, 09:58:05 AM
Grc: 85
Mjbmonetarymetals:80 (I like the 2nd of the two)
Skull: 68
12  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: - Bet Bitcoins on PacMan, Tetris, Snake & Others | 50% Referral on: June 30, 2013, 11:14:26 AM
I'm a huge Tetris nerd, so I'm curious: is this going to be old-school Tetris (eg. like NES Tetris) or a more modern version (eg. like TetrisFriends)?

Also, I'd recommend you have a few different modes of Tetris. Sprint (clear 40 lines as fast as you can) and Ultra (get as many points in a certain time limit) would be a good start.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: June 27, 2013, 11:27:55 AM
Hey acs26, just noticed this part of the first post should be changed:

To get on a donation list, an open source developer can message me or post in an active devcoin thread. They could also post in the original induction thread:

Since I'm now in charge of the share list, this should be changed to something like this:

To get on a donation list to receive shares of devcoin, an open source developer should message the share administrator or post in this thread. For more information on developer shares, see the devtome page.

To get on a donation list to receive shares of devcoin, an open source developer should message [url=;u=91796]the share administrator[/url] or post in this thread. For more information on developer shares, see the [url=]devtome page[/url].
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: June 22, 2013, 11:25:05 AM
Since ASIC miner shares have a price that's easy to look up, if they are selling for more than that on Cryptostocks, wouldn't that serve to further devalue the Devcoins?  I mean, wouldn't the exchange rate of DVC relative to BTC then adjust to reflect an equivalent value for the ASIC Miner PT share?

Interesting question. My first thought was that it's actually the opposite case. The mean of the lowest ask and highest bid of ASCMDVCPT is 10404 DVC. That represents 1/1000th of an ASICMINER-PT share, so we can think of one ASICMINER-PT share as 10404000 DVC. Since 10404000 DVC = 8.22 BTC (via Vircurex), but one ASICMINER-PT share is actually worth 3.07 BTC at the time of this writing. So if you had the equivalent amount of ASCMDVCPT shares, you could sell them for almost three times the amount of bitcoins. And yes you can actually do this if you bought in when ASCMDVCPT was a more reasonable price - I turned 30 ASCMDVCPT  (1/1000th) shares into 30 TAT.ASICMINER (1/100th) shares.

I see what you're saying though. If we measured the worth of DVC by how this stock was doing, then 10404000 DVC would only be worth 3.07 BTC. I don't think this is right way to think about it though - it's better to think of the value of DVC as the exchange rate on Vircurex, because that's how you can actually sell DVC for BTC or fiat. It makes more sense to think of ASCMDVCPT as simply being overvalued. I think if this were a more liquid market, people would realize they could make more money by selling their shares of ASCMDVCPT and buying another kind of share, and the price would come down to a reasonable level, or the people trying to sell shares would lower their prices more. I think the liquidity is stifled by the small number of shares personally. FuzzyBear has mentioned they are going to get more shares soon, but I haven't heard anything further than that.

I'm not sure there really is any solid investment one could offer other than an investment in ASICMINER... as far as I can tell, no other cryptostock has come close.

Isnt adding 1.5 to 2 TH/s (min. 5 Avalon trade-in and 3x Jupiter preordered) directly to the Devcoin chain solid enough?
GMP and DVB are a merged project operating on a private p2pool mining node (in opeation since allmost a year).

I meant as far as providing a financial incentive to any investors. ASCMDVCPT paid out 34 DVC per share last week in dividends. 34 / 10404 = 0.003%.

On the other hand, DVB is worth ~188 DVC per share. Last week it paid out 0.03 DVC per share.  0.03/188 = 0.00016%. The highest it paid out was 2.7 DVC per share = 0.01%, which is better than ASCMDVCPT, but it has only been this high twice. Most weeks it is in the 0.03 range.

So while I do think DVB is a good investment if you believe in the vision of DVC and want to help out with the security of DVC's future, but if someone just wants to make money, they are going to invest all their DVC into ASICMINER. Undecided

Also, I think you should probably update the info about DVB on Cryptostocks, because it's kind of difficult figuring out what you are actually investing on. Reading the actual DVB thread here sort of helps, but honestly, I'm still mostly clueless about DVB, and I'd like to invest in something that I understand.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: June 22, 2013, 04:00:02 AM
One thing I'd really like to see more of is ways to invest Devcoins in sound companies.  I'm reading up on the ASIC miner DVC pass through share listed on Cryptostocks and the ASIC miner company itself and liking what I'm learning so far in terms of feeling that would be a good investment.  I'd like to see more opportunities like this.


 And I think the result of me putting some DVC in such investments would in turn provide positive feedback to the value of DVC.

Agreed on all counts. ASCMDVCPT is awesome because it generates BTC from dividends and turns them into DVC, which raises the exchange rate, and offsets all the selling off of DVC that is happening. Unfortunately, right now ASCMDVCPT shares are overvalued - I just sold off about half my shares and was able to by nearly 20x of the equivalent shares by buying TAT.ASICMINER shares instead. I think this could potentially be solved by twobits/FuzzyBear buying a few more passthrough shares and issuing more ASCMDVCPT shares for a more reasonable price. Without competitive share prices, people are just going to sell their DVC for BTC and invest in ASICMINER directly. Perhaps someone could offer a service that acts sort of like ASCMDVCPT, but with the price fixed to the TAT.ASICMINER value?

As far as other DVC investments, I'm not sure there really is any solid investment one could offer other than an investment in ASICMINER... as far as I can tell, no other cryptostock has come close. We're going to need more options than just investing in ASICMINER to convince people to not cash out their DVC.

One other solution I considered was to make some sort of service allowing people to buy things directly with DVC - think BitPay or Gyft but with DVC instead. This way people wouldn't be in such a hurry to sell off their DVC for fiat. Although of course the problem here is the service would still be forced to somehow exchange the DVC for fiat in order to actually purchase the goods for their customers.

16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 17, 2013, 02:18:11 AM
I agree with you with all you have said, it is rather better to use open source licenses. I will never give my money to companies such as Adobe. At this moment, due to my experience and free time, I can't manage to work with an open source alternative. But this doesn't mean that the work I create will be propietary work.

It is the actual product I am concerned about. A movie that you need a proprietary viewer to view is not suitable, it has to be in a codex that is open source and that has open source viewers available to view it.

Even if any open source viewers can view it, the actual media itself, the codex, the file they tell the viewer to display, should be an open source codex/format/type.

People should not need to use flash to see the thing.

Also, re "Being open source does mean that its source code is available for everybody to view, edit and redistribute it. The fact that Adobe Flash is not open source does not mean that the works created with it can't be open source.", we support free open source, not all open source. Commercial, proprietary etc open source does not qualify. Free as in freedom - to re-use, base derivative works on, alter, re-arrange, re-purpose, distribute, redistribute (all these freedoms go with it to those it is distributed to) etc - not necessarily free as in beer.


I'm not sure if this is still under discussion, but IMO it shouldn't matter what software is used to make the video. That'd be if I made a Devcoin logo in Photoshop (not free or open source), then saved it as a PNG image and uploaded it with a CC license. The logo itself is free and open. Similarly, I could write some open source code in Visual Studio, and the code would still be open source. Or I could write an article on Devtome using a proprietary keyboard on my proprietary laptop...
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: June 13, 2013, 02:50:31 AM
Have you guys tried asking BTC-e to start trading DVC yet? It would help ALTcointip bot to start showing DVC USD/EURO/RUR values next to DVC tips.

It is somewhere in this thread, but not sure how to easily find it, so a recap.

They did add trading in DVC,  they limited the number of decimal places prices could be set to.  This did not work with DVC as the price would have had to have been far above the the price on vircurex at the time. This did not work too well of course.  Rather then fix this, they then removed DVC as an option due to it having no trading volume.

I suggest  doing what does  and using vircurex for dvc prices.

Agreed. Feel free to look at the code on my github, getting API data from Vircurex isn't much different from BTC-e.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: June 08, 2013, 09:13:37 PM
I just checked and looks like I should be entitled to be in the Bitcoin dev list as I'm actively developping pywallet again for more than 2 months. I'm not sure I'd receive anything from that though with all the writing shares.
That's not a problem though as it's Unthinkingbit's coin and it's normal he chooses the priority. But whatever the priority is (writing/developping/other), I'd just like it to be stated clearly

Hey jackjack, I'm in charge of adding people to the developer share lists. Here are some general guidelines on whether or not you would be eligible:

The best way to see if you qualify to be on the list is to PM me or post a link to the project thread. If you have 10 posts a month from users, then the project is definitely popular enough to be included. My instinct is that pywallet will qualify easily. I know I've used it in the last month, and I'm guessing so have several others in this thread.

Quote from: emfox
I've no aggression to the writers, but just want to make our community to notice this thing, is devtome more important than open source developers? I'd suggest some way, e.g. to limit the shares on devtome not exceed the half of whole shares, or as others said, use read times or vote links, instead of just words to distribute shares. just some random thoughts, not thinking very carefully, and forgive my english for I'm not native speaker.

I agree 100%. Unthinkingbit and other administrators: is there a way we can make some decision on this?
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: June 08, 2013, 07:07:26 AM
I think a bigger problem is now that DVC is becoming more popular, people are earning DVC and than cashing them out, instead of holding on to them. Over time this will cause their value to keep getting lower and lower. While there may be way more articles written in round 24 than round 23, the DVC/BTC value has HALVED. The constant selling of DVC is unsustainable. Embarrassed

Also sadly, it seems that the original goal of paying for open source development is falling to the wayside as well, as the value of shares plummets. I was thinking about trying for the forum bounty (still might when I'm done with finals), but at this point, 12 shares for all that work seems like nothing compared to the hundreds of shares people are getting for writing.

I still have faith in the vision of DVC though, and I hope we can come up with some solutions to these problems as a community. Smiley
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment on: June 08, 2013, 07:00:03 AM
I'm curious if you guys are going to be buying and issuing some more shares soon?

By my calculations, the shares seem to be overvalued:

On BTCT, one ASICMINER-PT share is 2.499btc = ~1999200dvc (at current vircurex exchange rate)
On the other hand, one ASCMDVCPT share is say 6000dvc, and is 1/1000th of a ASICMINER-PT share.
So they are about 3x as expensive as buying ASICMINER-PT shares directly.

As a shareholder, I'm not really complaining, but I want to buy more cheap shares! Wish I bought way more when they were 680dvc each! Cheesy
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