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441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: July 09, 2017, 03:51:08 PM
It is not a sin to play gambling, if you do not lose all the money and do not get into debt. And when dependence on gambling is harmful not only to you, but to others, it's bad.

For others it is and for you it isn't. I have two thoughts for this, for those people that believes gambling is a sin, maybe they are thinking that it can lead you to bankruptcy and when you are now like that you'll think to commit crime.

It will depend on their experience with gambling, some thinks it as a drug that can destroy once life, but it will only happen without any control ,Anything that is too much and being abuse may not really result good.

It is drug to others or they are comparing it with the same way because it is causing them to be addicted. And once a gambler is addicted to it, they will have hard time to recover with it.
A sin is an action that has trespass any government rules and regulations and has violated the moral laws or laws of God. An act that is committed and some people got harmed. I do not think that gambling is a sin especially if you are just playing for fun and that you have not done anything wrong just for you to be able to play. Like, stole money, sold important things in life like house title and cars just to have the money to use for betting.

There are people who gambles just for fun and it will be unfair to make them feel and see them as sinners just because they were playing gambling. I know how gambling addicted is but as long as someone is just playing for fun and excitement there is nothing wrong about it.
442  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How the future of bitcoin will look like on: July 09, 2017, 01:54:15 PM
Bitcoin has a nice future in front of itself and soon reaches the limit to the last. And bitcoin has a major time in the media that is now paying attention and many countries have been about bitcoin.

This is true, more countries want to used this as their currency like australia, korea, japan, china and other. It will possible look like a dollar that are the most demand currency in the world. With this happenings in our bitcoin market they become popular around the world. Due to investors/countries that investing in bitcoin it cause a good images that turn to good future. Because if the investor know that it is legit and can get a big profit they will use this as their business so many people will encourage to use this to get an income.
443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: July 09, 2017, 12:27:04 PM
Hi guys Smiley May I know what are your plans on your Bitcoin in the future? Do you plan to keep on investing on Bitcoin related businesses or do plan to convert it into fiat and ventures on new business?

I'm planning to invest more on Bitcoin related companies and convert some of my Bitcoin into fiat and invest it on our local stock market. How about you?
Same with you, after I graduate in my college I want to focus in bitcoin. I set up my all account in different signature campaign and the earned bitcoin I use in trading for extra income. The bitcoin is so wide, it has many uses, if I spend my other time in bitcointalk or their uses because I think I can get an income same with professional person who have stable job. I choose bitcoin because I also earn money using this (even its a stuff) and I control my time in doing what way of generating bitcoin. By more knowledge about bitcoin, the more way I earn this.
444  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: July 09, 2017, 11:30:01 AM
My worst moment in gambling is that i can't control my self when i play because i am too greedy. That time i lose a thousands of money i can't barely moved that time because i lose a lot of money in a hour. But now i learn my lesson that i will never greedy again instead i will only play for fun not for profit.
My worst moment in gambling was when I was in highs school. I think I was just 15 then and I was trying a new gambling game. It was a card game and I have no idea in playing it. I was watching some old folks here playing it when my uncle forced me to try it. I was hesitant first but I agreed because there is no money at stake and they said that they would just teach me. It was really my worse moment because my crush is there, she is a daughter of one of the players and a good friend of my uncle. The game is happening at their house that is why she is there.
She is my classmate and she was watching the game when she knew that I was playing. I was really embarrassed because I don’t know how to play the game and I can hear her laugh whenever the other players will made fun of me. It was a good and fun experience after all.
445  Economy / Economics / Re: Would bitcoin help teach kids about saving? on: July 09, 2017, 10:07:16 AM
That would be a good idea to teach both of your cousin about bitcoin and the benefit of saving it. But it is not an assurance that they will learn how to save money, for me the best way to teach kids to save money is telling them real scenario about life of someone who doesn't have money and if they keep on spending then it is possible for them to be in that situation and I don't they want that to happen to their to them.
I agree with that, it would be so kind to teach his younger cousins how to saved money. But I also think that using bitcoin in teaching them will be too much. Bitcoin is too complicated for them to understand, saving bitcoin means understanding how valuable and how important saving it is. Normally, kids at that age would always want something or will want anything that catches their eyes but not all of them.

I believe that in order for the kids to learn how to saved money they must not just experience a real life scenario but they must witness how to saved money and see for themselves how saving money is very useful. In other words, a kid can learn saving money from his home, I think this is where it should start, one must see from his parents or family members how they saved money.
446  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: July 08, 2017, 10:21:05 PM
Giving up in gambling is not easy but you can gave it up but removing your time part by part don't stop in a single drop but you will stop by removing your time in gambling day by day because in every addiction that is the solution so I will suggest that start removing your gambling time day by day.
This is right, gambling is so hard to stop! And its a good idea to stop little by little. I'm also involved in gambling and I want to stop this because I know that it has no good result in the end. Sometimes I find a hobbies/sports to alternate in gambling, even I always play a gambling my purposed is for fun but I can't stop to play and turn to obsessed. Sometimes I bring small amount of money but I back sometimes for chances to get back my losing money.
447  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: July 08, 2017, 09:25:50 PM
I heard that bitcoin is a good investment for making a huge profit in the future , is that right ? Because i want to buy some bitcoin in these days .
Yes it is, I can say the best investment now in our generation. It has a big potential to doubled its value on the next years. And buy some bitcoins today before it got too expensive, before it's too late.
Maybe right, but we have no idea what will happen in the future in bitcoin. Like trading, signature campaign and etc, investing can give a big profit. But for me they need to wait long period of time to get the profit and its tedious while trading are there to get a profit in short period of time. My point is, why we need to wait a long time for profit while they have other way to earn, it is not sure to get a profit in future. But trading and investing is almost the same, need to learn a possibity of profit before we go in business.
448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as a source of income? on: July 08, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
It is possible, You are using Bitcointalk and you know that there are a lot of ways to earn money with this forum, like Campaigns or Services
Right, but without more information about bitcoin you can't manage your income. Because with signature campaign in services you can't earn bitcoin because it has own rules and regulation before you give the payout. Additionally, more bitcoiner are greedy to generate bitcoin (as what I encounter) they do multiple account then participate in one signature campaign that have a great payment, sometimes newbie want to posts more and their profile are one liner or other are spammer and they don't know. My point is without enough knowledge in bitcoin we possible to turn nothing. Bitcoin field is so wide, the more you have idea the more income you can get.
449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AICOIN ICO:: Building Wealth Thru AI & the Power of the Blockchain on: July 08, 2017, 06:43:44 PM
It can be said that the idea of ​​this project is quite interesting from the background by using a short-term two-step investment strategy and disseminating long-term investments.
Most important is alcoin that seeks to bridge the gap between trading companies without formal structures. I think this is the right choice for investors to stop by.

Indeed it is. Using AI technology for trading, giving holders a chance to choose ventures by voting to invest in are some features which make AICOIN special. I am pretty sure coin will surge with time, it is good opportunity for investors.

The idea is already great and how the team responds here means that this will go forward. Let's really hope that they will get a lot of investors and deliver their objectives for this project.

Right, the idea is great and also fresh but somehow the endorsement is still frigid. The name of this ICO is still tranquil, I do hope that this will impoved before the project starts. The developer is really active in answering our questions and that is good.
450  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: July 08, 2017, 01:18:05 PM
For me, I do not consider trading as gambling. From how to get it alone is very different when by playing gambling. Trading is waiting for the right time to buy cheap or sell at high prices could be considered as an investment. Requires patience in doing it, although both require deep patience. In my country get bitcoin by gambling way is not right. While trading in my opinion it has nothing to do with gambling.
Right, for me it has a big difference. Trading is getting of sure profit while gambling is no assurance for profit. I said this because trading in bitcoin is needed only the right time for buying and the right time for selling for sure profit. Maybe it is the same in money involve but looking for best way of profit I go for trading even they need to sacrifice a time and money it is legal unlike gambling that are usually banned. If we consider the trading is a gambling why more people choose to trade their goods/money to get a profit and why this is legal in our society? My point is trading can done by everyone without hiding to the law.
451  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin be used by ordinary citizens? on: July 07, 2017, 04:22:24 AM
Bitcoin is usually used by people interested in technology. I mean, persons with a certain technical knowledge are interested in bitcoin.

My observations are that way. I think Bitcoin needs to reach larger quantities. Can use bitcoin in people who are not interested in technology?
Can people use the bitcoin in the profession group like tradesmen, teachers, housewives, firemen, butchers? Are we going to see the days that these people use bitcoin?
i agree with that,and its happen in my life,only people who interested in technology want to know more about bitcoin,and i think its hard for ordinary citizen to start using bitcoin as investement or currency,so far people need to know and use bitcoin because they need money,they have no interest using bitcoin as payment,its too complicated,and this become our duty to make bitcoin can used for payment,investement and can used by ordinary citizen.

I agree with that, people who are into technology are the ones who knows about bitcoin. I know that it is also possible for those people mentioned by chmod777 to use bitcoin too. For me, it is not that they don't think that bitcoin is important but because they don't know how important bitcoin is. There might be negligence and disregard from them because they are not into technology and also because they are not trying.

The fact that it is also hard to believe that there is such "crypto currency" adds to the reasons why they chose to ignore bitcoin.
452  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a problem gambler? on: July 07, 2017, 03:24:39 AM
Definitely not, I am not a problem on gambling but certainly gambling if abused could result to worst problem ever. This could result to worst situations in your life because it will loss all your profit if you depend your future from it and in reality no one prosper from gambling activities. More stories telling about gambling negative effects to their lives, but still those affected were ignorimg it and don't give attention. If gambling activities will be abuse, and it exaxtly involved a lots of money to be wasted from extreme bettings on games that earns gambling rewards on winning; so you became addicted by having more bets expecting more lucky days and end up lossing.

Somehow, it seems very normal for us to ignore important things. You are right that even if many have been telling their problems when they became a gambler, many would still continue to ignore the fact, that gambling is very dangerous. Many people would still continue to play and I am one of them.

I know that playing gambling is fun and dangerous at the same time. The fun and the excitement that I get might instantly turn to greed. But I believe, that knowing the consequences helps. I play but I see to it that it is just for fun and I limit myself from betting high amounts by bringing a certain amount only. This is the reason why I don't have problems in gambling.

453  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: July 07, 2017, 02:59:11 AM
i may prefer holdings of bitcoins , than gold , if this is a literal gold i would love to keep it , if its not im on btc , because years pass by , it will be higher and higher , what im telling is the value of the bitcoin will be higher and higher

You are right that there is a possibility that bitcoin's price will be higher but it is still uncertain. We should not be contented because there is also a chance that it may fail and that crypto may suddenly dissapear.

 In terms of holding, bitcoin is indeed a good investment and that it is much easier to have than gold.  They both have values in the market but gold is not easy to earn unlike bitcoin. We can earn bitcoin by joining signature campaigns and altcoins, trading, investing and etc. That is why, many would prefer to have and hold bitcoin instead of gold since bitcoin is achievable than gold.
454  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has gambling affected your life in a good way? on: July 06, 2017, 10:06:44 PM
Gambling serves as a form of entertainment for me, so It does helps me get my mind off stressful issues that arise from my job in the day, but I would always remind myself to gamble what I can afford to lose, and sometimes when I got really lucky on a winning streak, I would withdraw the winnings out and use the money to purchase all the items I listed out in my shopping list  Smiley
Same with you, I can said that gambling is helpful in my life by relaxing and an entertainment. But some times I can't control myself to play more if I have allot of money and some times I turn to greediness. Gambling is interesting things, it depends in you on how you manage the gambling in your life but never used this as job, why? Because money from gambling is easy to consume, more losing than winning, possible to turn in debt at the end or if you lose too much it gives a problem in our health also. My point is even gambling gives a profit in our life in the end we will turn to zero.
455  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: July 06, 2017, 09:25:54 PM
i think it is, because in the year 2011 you can buy a Bitcoin for only 4$ and if you buy 100 Bitcoin before and you still have it now , then you are a millionaire , and if you buy bitcoin now it's late, because the price of BTC now is expensive
I agree with you, the price of bitcoin as of now is high compare to the past year price. If we buy a bitcoin at this time I think it gives a small profit/deficit. If we observe, the price increase then decrease but a little difference. I said this because from $400 to $2500 you can get a big profit if you have or you save a bitcoin at bitcoin price is $400 or low. Or maybe if you buy/save a bitcoin of march 2017 I'm sure you have a big profit when month of april comes.
And that' s opportunity I may said that we are late to buy bitcoin (it raise to 156k in php) because this time it is between 120k-132k.
456  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: July 06, 2017, 02:57:54 PM
Setting limit is very important in gambling without setting the limit we can lost a lot of money, sometimes in gambling we can lose our control and spending too much, I usually used a different wallet for gambling, so my winning and my gambling fund is in that wallet, when it is empty it's mean I need to stop gambling

Right, its a good choice. Even me, I bring enough money for gambling if this will result of winning much better but if it will lose I stop to avoid addicting that cause too much losing and greediness in playing. I limit myself by time managing also, I have time for gambling, for my family and for alternative hobbies in gambling like sports or watching tv.

Looking for more income may bring me in the hell, because if I become addicted or win more I know that gambling never gives a good benefits to my life. And that's the reason why I choose gambling as my entertainment.
457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is instant way to get rich ? on: July 06, 2017, 01:20:45 PM
what do you think about this topic?

All people here in the world wants a comfortable life and most of them want to become rich. Bitcoin can solve the problem of everyone, with their uses and benefits, we can survive in our daily needs and if we give more time and studying deeply the bitcoin uses we can become rich. It is not easy to do that, most of the bitcoin user ( as what I observe) allot a time to monitor the bitcoin price because trading is one way to get an profit in easy way. And others used this as business and investment. It is lucky because like the real job you can earn also a money (converted to local currency) and you can manage your time unlike real job that needs to work 8 hr or up to get more income and fill their needs.

458  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: July 06, 2017, 12:18:05 PM
Bitcoin for a long time is able to grow very well and provide a person. Many in this way have already become millionaires.
This is right, with saving bitcoin's more people become millionaire. Saving is working because I have a friend and they have a bitcoin in year 2015 and that time the price is low. That time he is continuosly earn bitcoin, with their harworking they have a big profit. It is because of the bitcoin price, the benefits of being not stable of price is one reason why bitcoin have an advantages to other currency and why we become rich in the future.

Actually, with this great idea, people will encourage to use the bitcoin as investment. But I suggest that don't put all your money in bitcoin as investment cause many uses can bitcoin have like trading.
459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AICOIN ICO:: Building Wealth Thru AI & the Power of the Blockchain on: July 02, 2017, 04:46:31 PM
A very good project to follow. This project will grow rapidly and will be much in demand by everyone who knows the world of cypto. I am very happy to join this project.

Yes everyone has known this, this is indeed an amazing project and we are all proud to be able to join here., Now we have approached launching ,. I hope we all can begin to maximize promotion in the broad market
Yes, this is a pretty good project and has a tendency of the future, so its potential is huge but now I think it still does not have too much attraction to investors, I do not know why. I think the project needs to do something special and interesting to advertise and attract more attention because ico will take place in the next 2 weeks but now I can feel the atmosphere of the project quite bored. Hope that the project team will try to work and improve more to help the project succeed in the future

Yeah, the launching of the ICO will be in two weeks and it seems like this project is very quiet. We all know how interesting the proposed project of this ICO but we need investors in order to fulfill the project’s goal. We all know how important investors are when it comes to ICOs, we, the members and the developers) still needs to do our best to make this project noticeable by them.
460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: July 02, 2017, 04:00:58 PM
I just wanna know if you guys are supertitious when playing or gambling?

I will admit I'm very supertitious when going to a land based casino. Grin
1. I choose the number of parking slot that I will park. Usually it should have my favorite number 111,777 etc.
2. I don't want to wait for someone if he or she is going to go with in the casino.
3. I wear the same shirt that I won big.

And a lot more..

How about you? are you sepertitious?  Smiley
Well being supertitious in gambling will just make you confious and might be an obstacle that can stand on your way of winning. Don't believe on supertitions. Believe on yourself and use your abilities in winning games. Dont stuck yourself.
well its a new age now and we all knew that  math can help us to survive inside gambling the best way is just to enjoy your game and don't let anything bother's you because superstition will just do that every time you believe about it, if you want to enjoy just focus and play what you can afford to lose.
I dont think so, that's only a rumour. How math can make us survive in gambling because nobody knows what we will get in gambling. by thinking math can help you in gambling it will makes you not concentrate in gambling and can makes you forget the groove of the game.

I also agree with that. I have watched a movie about gambling where the house are beaten by young mathematicians. I do think that it is impossible to beat the house with the aid mathematics. I mean, if math could really help in playing gambling, then maybe we will know mathematicians who have done it. Being a statistician and a mathematician at the same time really does put a big “wow” in many faces because it really is amazing, but I don’t think that being both will enable you to win in many gambling games.

About superstitions, there are countries who strictly follow their customs and beliefs wherein superstitions are included. We should respect that because they are just following what their family have been accustomed to.
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