First of all, suggestions and ideias are most welcome. 

Secondly, I have the possibility to generate unlimited number of pre-paid VISA cards, that can be configured for one time only use or recurrent use. Cards are fully anonymous and can be used for any purchase online.

Is there any business to be made here or are there already alternatives available for that matter? 

Normmaly i would't loose my breath but you earned yourself my attention.

"Why this make you laugh? Who is real lender for you or do you think that there is none of them? If you think that then you are more than a fool."

Are you able to argument without insulting people? This is a public forum were a user has posted information about a loan, why does it have to go this big? It make me laught and I would laught again. The reason I wouldn't even dare to say. Too much information. Still, do I have to say again that I don't search to lend, borrow or whatsoever on this forum? Or maybe I should write it in capital letters.

That being said, in my line of bussiness a real lender is neither you, me or any user of this forum for that matter. If you choose to belive otherwise or know so, that is your truth, not mine. So taking that in consideration, should I call you more than a fool? I dont think so.


"Safety mechanisms is the same and applied to all,as they are the best way to assure the funds that you are lending.
Collateral is a must "safety measure" for all the type of loans,not only in the digital world. Except trust loans but you are not even close to get such a loan. If you have more ways then is plus those and not something different. You take collateral right?"

Again, your world not mine. If I choose not to apply collateral, what do you have to do with it? Its my risk to take right? You CAN have an oppinion thougt and you're not a fool for that.

But since you asked - acctually, ALL of my investors don't take collaterals lol - not digital, not phisical, NOTHING. Sounds impressive? Not really. Collateral is a perishable and volatile asset for them. They do however, make legal contracts and are very swift in pinning down whoever is failling on payments. I could not stress enought how effective they are in doing so. I simply cannot.

"So again,it's funnier to see how smart ass ppl,try to find ways to gain trust,coins or anything else with only empty words.
It's better to "waste" your time by finding them instead of trying to fool others. "

And again, I reiterate - it could not be farther from truth lol - I wast my time in drinking margueritas at Kho Phangan and sometimes I do reply on topics because there are still people on this world that think the one wants to fuck up the next. And maybe, JUST MAYBE, I just want to give a hand.

"The world is us and we are not all fucked up. Keep your 2 cents, i see that you throw a lot of them... "

My friend, the world is not us, neither is ours to take. I travel around the world and believe me, you cannot be farther from the truth. We are SHIT. We destroy everything that can keep us alive and we are here for some 50000 years now. We are a speck of dust. Even the fuckin dolphin is more inteligent than us. And my 2 cents are just that. My opinion. Deal with it.

Real lenders? Now you made me laught.

Oh I'm annoying you? So sorry, I honestly didn't want to. Also my previous post goes as comment for your 2 cents. I don't trust anyone and I don't expect nobody to trust me. I have my own safety mechanisms and If you only consider a loan safe with collateral, that's your world, your 2 cents, not mine.

Again, funny how people loose their preciousr time even in counting the minutes /days /hours in order to conclude this is farming or any other scam!

Why can't it be JUST and ONLY what it IS?

This world is fucked up. My 2 cents.

Three words - Established partnership, pro bono case on a quid pro quo premise. Let's just say the Law firm owes me and my investors. Besides one need to know about Chinese laws since there are ways which one can use to rapidly recover 1000USD from someone. I've done it at least 2 times and surely will happen again in my line of work.

On my side, I don't want to use it as a reference at all. I've got my own sucessful business and if I once posted here for help in order to apply as a lender, taking in consideration the last two posts, sorry it was my bad and will not surely happen again.  I've got other places to invest without colatteral and using legal mechanisms to protect me and my investors.

For me it serves only as a true story that there are still good people in the world. That the notions of trust and helpfulness, regardless the safe mechanics used, are still usable has we all are humans. That's it. No wild-goose-chase motifs or hidden reasons. No schemes, scams, nothing. Just plain old thankyouness and human understanding.

On kii552007 side don't really care what are his intentions. But what I can say that he has been good for his word period. It worths what it worths -  but its the truth.

The human condition takes us to denial and doubts if face of we don't understand. Its human nature. And that I understand

Its funny thought how people tend to rationalize this matter as to produce wild conspiracy or even an elaborate scam 

One thing is for sure - I won't either lend or borrow at the forum as it seems its easier to be ostracized then to be part of it. But that's just me and my 2 cents. Don't really give a f**** to what people think about.

Let me just add that it was kii552007_alt that sent me e-mail to go public, which I agreed.

Needless to say, I reckon this user is an example to us all.

He has been feedbacking me every single day, already even sent me undoubtful proof of payment from his costumer!

So may this thread serve both out interests, in gaining the respect of senior members and veterans.

I was acctually being honest, not sarcastic. I'm no smart guy, just one guy trying to help another.

And if the general community feels that this subject should be more proofed, I'm HONESTLY opened for suggestions. I mean, the conversations can't be faked I guess.

So again, it is on my best interest to make proof of this deal. Other user has already manifested himself, and on his interest, I think he would be keaned to post any sort of proof requested.

Oh I'm a fool alright. But my foolish life is giving me strawberries by the pool in Thailand. And I'm not local

For me this subject is closed... regarding us being the same user, well, maybe the mods can shed some light on that matter. For me, issue is closed.

User is prompt, good for his word, already vouched and left him trust note. He's good for his word. He sent me official paper from his governement stating his address. I work on an area that has access to forensics software that can analise if a JPEG was tampered in any way with fair amount of certainty. I didn't even used it. User was so quick to send me pictures that the possibility of being forged was extremly low.

Possible, but improbable. Trusted him, and it was deserved!!

My 2 cents.

Ahaha ok, Im only replying since your member status. Or else i would say f*** o**.

What do you suggest I can do to prove that? Honestly Im interested. 😁 We chatted on line, PM here in the fórum... 😁😂

But i did. User sent me his docs, pretty much all I requested and few more 😉

UPDATE ON THIS SUBJECT - VERY IMPORTANT!

First of all, let me just say - it is always refreshing to meet and make business with someone like kii552007_alt.

Despite what general thumb rules are, I like to think that there are people on this world that deserve a chance, even when at first glance, there are no conditions to support otherwise.

I'm hopping that this post, proves something to the community as it proved to myself, in believing that not always people are here to scam people. Some would say I was lucky. And I would say - I make my own fucking luck. That's why I'm writing this post on a beautiful island in the Land of Smiles (Thailand for the now knowing)

In resume:

- Sent to this user 0.00663200 with low fee. TRX got stuck in Blockchain due to known current delays
- User contacted me asking for help, since he needed the funds badly. This was Thursday.
- I replied him, and sent another transfer same value, with higher fees, agreeing that he would pay me back those fees Saturday
- Today user contacted me, showing proof that his costumer had already paid him, but since there is a BC congestion, there could be some delays
- Its now still Saturday here in Thailand (same timezone as the user, give or take 1 hour or two) and user contacted me pronto in order to proceed payment
- After some fun talk, we agreed on final amount - 0.00663200 BTC + 0.0006 fees from second transaction + 125USD at current rate on preev.com
- User has paid me in full - Total 0,014663 BTC TRX ID 1e661c2c4906da626266c4759b8d0347389d5d1e65d06c4a1a0395ed6781be26

What can I say?! Thank you ****** (name omited for security reasons) for the wonderful trade and as spoken, do no hesitate to reach me. If I can help I WILL.

Serves has a VOUCH,VOUCH, VOUCH for this user.

My 2 cents - topic closed! 

"but one of the problems, sometimes there are ICO who do scammers" I would say the MAIN problem. Regarding trading it depends brother... I myself do arbitrage with Zimbabwe. Safe returns no ICO's shi*.

Even without I would rather prefer hodl.

And again, there are place to publicize ICO's around here. 

Sure it is. Along with all the other ICO's around cyber space. They are all that great. Dude, less spam, more discussion. There is a place in the forum if you wanna sell somehting. 

Its always a good laught thought. Some people just don't understand what's really behind cripto. Something WAY bigger that just coins and digital currency. Its about giving back power to the people.

First fiat currency imposed was on the Chinese imperialism and one was obliged to use it. If you didn't you would get killed.

The biggest ponzi scheme in this World is fiat currency. The fu***** eye in the top of the USD note. Money NEVER leaves that eye. EVER.

Long live blockchain!

No worries, I hope you are good for your word. As we've spoken, we can both benefit for this business

TRX ID - https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/a8c4acfb9b7a0068c7af42c6ea756cc95e2813864ebaf31cbc9dbcd47b0a20fc/

To go public, I'm lending this user the 100USD he asked, since he was able to instate minimum docummented guarantees that he's going to pay.

This post is to make that public and I will update it in conformity so that others can follow up. I will either burn him or vouch him

If 100USD can do a difference in someone's life and if the risk assessment has a minimum support, I think we should help people. Not everyone has collateral to give away.

Will keep this thread updated

@kii552007_alt - please reply to this topic and refer your acceptance / commitment in repaying until this Saturday.

You assume very well. Just for those 2 posts I can check what type of person you are and what to you search for here. My nose hair just twinkled. Don't spam the topic, please, and good luck to you too in scamming people. NO hard feelings.

Thanks a million aTriz , just saved me some large minutes in seaching I might just follow up on you

Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. I also have high PR/DA domains I can use, if that would be the case.

Ok so go public. State your intentions.

Don't waste my time. I'm a 40 year old dude that is to much of a wreck to endure small talk.

If you want to talk biz, fine, hit me up via PM clearly stating your intentions/idea, but I warn you - if the little tiny hair in my nose so much as twitches, you wont even get a reply and our conversation will be publicly posted. So think real hard before anything else.    

I'm willing to "lose" 100USD in BTC, IF you can send me valid proof of address of your business. This is not a threat, but I work with EALG so I would easily file a complaint and prosecute your as** . And believe me, in what I do for a living I already snatched people 10000 KM from where I am for a lot less.

No, but seriously, I'm willing to lend - honest business. I do not want no collateral and I don't want to use Paypal, just simple lending to a simple user. But you would have to send me proof of address (via PM) and any sort of document that states your business (website, domain registry, anything that supports your claims).

I would charge you 25% interest.

There are my terms, if interested, we can go public with the deal (thought the documentation would be sent on a private stance).

Hit me up if you're interested.