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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 12, 2023, 08:25:48 PM
It's undeniable that something like that has to be done and it's proven that they can be solid even without players being used as benchmarks or having big names.
Over time, Union's performance has improved and that deserves appreciation, even though I really wouldn't expect too much for the Champions League, but at least in this case they have reached a position where not many can even do it, which is very good for them.
UNion Berlin managed to become a team that deserves to be considered to re-enliven competition in the Bundesliga, how their performance this season was very good, yes, even though they had to experience several setbacks which caused them to be content with only being ranked 4th. But despite all that, we can't say that UNIon Berlin hasn't done well with what they've done this season. They have to make improvements in several positions to make their team even more solid.
Their conditions, with all the limitations in terms of resources and players, really expect consistency for one season, of course it will be very difficult.
But even so, still this has been very good for them regardless of some of the inconsistencies that occurred in a few games towards the end of this season it has also been very good for them.

Btw I'm interested in getting back to Leipzig now, they are currently missing 2 of their pillar players Nkuku who went to Chelsea and Konrad Laimer who moved to Bayern. It's sure to be another shakeup for them.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 12, 2023, 07:21:05 PM
If Spaletti does leave Napoli, it would probably be a tragedy for the club. With him, Napoli have been able to achieve very good results that could disappear next season. There are so many examples of a top club ending up in the middle of the standings after a coach leaves. For example, this was the case recently with Barcelona, who were only able to recover after a season.
It is inconceivable what will be the fate of Napoli after Spalletti left, maybe his fate will be the same as Brighton after Potter moved to Chelsea some time ago. Napoli have achieved success with Spalletti, the coach really played a big part in helping Napoli win the Scudetto after not having won it for a long time due to not being able to compete with Juventus, Milan and Inter.
Chaos will befall the Napoli squad if they can't convince Spalletti to stay, the new coach's ideology makes players have to adapt to the style of play that is applied. The success of a club is not only equipped with an established squad, but the role of the coach is also very important in determining the right strategy.

The Napoli team is far ahead of these two teams, Juventus and Roma. Napoli's performance seems to be the same type of performance that the Juventus team has performed in the past. The Napoli team looks to be stronger next season judging by their current performances. And each player's style of play showed confidence.
I can't say for sure.
Indeed, for this season their performance has been very impressive, but with the transfer conditions that are still unpredictable, where this will go, there are still concerns for Napoli.
Their players have the potential to leave even though the hope is still to stay but it is clear that all of them will not be able to stay now because indeed they also know that this condition will definitely happen.
Hopefully their performance doesn't decline in the end.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 12, 2023, 05:56:26 PM
I also did not find a lot of news about the team that was interested in Harry Kane, I only read the news that Harry Kane would move to Mancheseter United, besides that I did not find another team from my search.
The thing that might happen is Anceloti taking Kane to strengthen his squad, because if you think back who deserves to replace Benzema? After his departure. That is also if Real Madrid focus on his front line as a reliable attacker, but I have not found Real Madrid have a list of spending for persistent attacking players.

Kane has two options regarding his future, that is moving to Manchester United or playing for Real Madrid in La Liga. Kane will not have many guarantees of winning the title with Manchester United next season, but if he chooses Real Madrid then he might win it.

Kane is suitable as a successor to Benzema at Real Madrid, of course because Kane has a hunger to score goals. It's true that Real Madrid rarely sign players as old as Kane, but Kane should be a good short-term option because Real Madrid need a striker. But maybe, Real Madrid will also try to approach some other strikers who are younger than Kane.
The plot twist of this story that I worry about is that Kane did not choose the option to leave and stay at Tottenham.
Even though there is no problem with that, it's quite a shame because with his instincts and the talent he had when he was at Tottenham, he won't actually get anything.
His current age is quite mature and he should think more logically if he wants at least a trophy for his professional career.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: June 11, 2023, 10:09:42 PM
Inter could have won the final, but those theories don't count in the football world.

Manchester City definitely deserved this trophy. I think Simone Inzaghi played this match with the wrong tactic. It was impossible for them to play defensively for 90 minutes against Manchester City. As a matter of fact, their energy started to decrease after the 60th minute. I wish Simone Inzaghi had chosen to play a more courageous football. Maybe then they could beat Manchester City. Frankly, it would be the choice of ordinary people to try to stop Manchester City by playing only defense. Simone Iinzaghi disappointed me with this choice. He should have studied his class better.
Judging from his condition in yesterday's match, I don't think that they really played too big a defensive scheme because in this case they were also more daring in pursuing and compensating for the game played by Manchester City.
One thing I regret in this case for Inzaghi, he was late in several substitutions because he still thought he could hold Manchester for 90 minutes but in the end they had to be conceded by Rodri's goal kill the game which made them change strategy by entering players quickly but that I think a little too late.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 11, 2023, 09:31:02 PM
That is indeed quite natural because it can be said that for now Union is an ordinary club but that is precisely what is interesting for them because with an ordinary club and being able to be consistent in the last few seasons it is really very good but indeed in this case we have also understand one thing of course because who makes their finances fat is they who will have an advantage over other clubs and that is undeniable.
Union Berlin reached the top four for the first time in their history, thanks to exceptional performances by outstanding players. Urs Fischer, the iron ones' manager, performed an excellent job of taking the team above and beyond the expectations of the fans and the bundesliga. This season, the club will enter the market, making solid additions with the goal to battle with vigour in more challenging competition. Union Berlin is quite stringent in terms of player wage budgets, and the board is extremely tenacious in dealing with such a problem.
It's undeniable that something like that has to be done and it's proven that they can be solid even without players being used as benchmarks or having big names.
Over time, Union's performance has improved and that deserves appreciation, even though I really wouldn't expect too much for the Champions League, but at least in this case they have reached a position where not many can even do it, which is very good for them.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: June 10, 2023, 08:36:23 PM
Their rhythm is slowly carried away by Manchester City and this must be immediately anticipated by Inter because they are separated from whatever they are from the beginning, in my opinion, it is good enough to maximize the open game but the longer the dominance of Manchester City is increasingly felt now.
Btw seeing from the current conditions it seems that KDB is experiencing a little problem and Foden is preparing hopefully this does not have a big impact for City.
First half draw is already an indication of something that most sports bettors who choose Manchester City for straight winning should consider because at the moment Manchester city even though they dominated the first half but we're not able to conceive a possible goal score, Manchester city has a lot to do in this second half if not the 90 minutes may end in surprising ways since inter Milan is putting out their best foot this time and haven't learned from the first half.

But all the same, I wish the clubs the best!
Inter play pretty well without being able to do anymore they really play very well but indeed Manchester City is not without reason because they really began to eager in terms of championship.
Now the score changed and Inter began to try harder, the header was almost goal but Lukaku's feet were blocking. The remaining time I still feel that Inter will be far more trying to attack.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: June 10, 2023, 07:36:11 PM
Inter is holding great and it will not be easy at all for Manchester City seeing these first 20 minutes of the game,Manchester City despite keeping the ball as they have always done they have not created anything dangerous and the only corner of the game so far is for Inter.I think that if Inter manages to keep at this performance the pressure will always be in the increase on Manchester City but Guardiola said in conference with journalists that City should not think that they are losing the game if they will be in a draw for to long,so deep inside even Guardiola is prepared for a draw and eventual penalties.

I thought Inter Milan's defense was weak. But Inter Milan's defenders are playing very well today. The defenders of both teams are playing very well. Both City and Inter are attacking. However, neither team is able to score yet. In the first 30 minutes, Manchester City managed to possess 67% of the ball. The players of both teams are performing quite well. I wouldn't be surprised if this match ends in a penalty shootout like the Europa League final.
Their rhythm is slowly carried away by Manchester City and this must be immediately anticipated by Inter because they are separated from whatever they are from the beginning, in my opinion, it is good enough to maximize the open game but the longer the dominance of Manchester City is increasingly felt now.
Btw seeing from the current conditions it seems that KDB is experiencing a little problem and Foden is preparing hopefully this does not have a big impact for City.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 09, 2023, 07:24:39 PM
There's no doubt that Union Berlin performed well this season especially during the start of the season and I can remember that they have been at the top of the table and have contested in several ways but it is unfortunate they were not the Champions and it is fortunate that they will appear in the Champions League.
The reason why they fluctuated in their performance was lack of squad depth. I believe they will fix the problem this season by signing more good players and players will likely reciprocate because they are now in European competition.

The achievement Union Berlin had is really big on paper also. I mean just look at the comparison of the total market values of the top 4 teams this season:

- Bayern Munich: 979.70 million euros
- Dortmund: 547.70 million euros
- Leipzig: 487.30 million euros
- Union Berlin: 126.10 million euros

There is a really huge gap between Union Berlin and the others. But this team managed to even take the lead for a while and maintained a title race for a respectable amount of time. Leverkusen had a really bad season in the league of course which was also a factor that helped. However I wouldn't like to underestimate the work Union Berlin have done.

I also hope to see them adding some good players to make the team more reliable for the Champions League. Of course the board wouldn't have high expectations there but I guess they would like to do their best anyway.
That is indeed quite natural because it can be said that for now Union is an ordinary club but that is precisely what is interesting for them because with an ordinary club and being able to be consistent in the last few seasons it is really very good but indeed in this case we have also understand one thing of course because who makes their finances fat is they who will have an advantage over other clubs and that is undeniable.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 09, 2023, 06:23:25 PM
Could it be because Ac Milan was doing well in the Champions League that was why they didn't give too much attention to the Champions League knowing too well that Napoli had already overtaken them in the Serial A league chase.
I appropriated Milan's in the Champions League to Leo R absence in the first leg between Ac Milan and Inter Milan.
They got another opportunity to put their team in order to be able to contest for the title league coming season.

Even though AC milan is doing well in UCL this season I think AC milan is very weak and much different if we are compared to the previous season, 21/22. The success of reaching the semifinals of the UEL is an interesting thing, because AC Milan appears to have an inconsistent game. Next season AC Milan must start looking for young players. However, AC Milan's current finances have not been able to provide much money to buy good players. Hopefully they are not doing old strategy with buying old players and making them stay in bench.
Now talking about Milan, they still have the potential to lose another player, I think.
It is currently reported that Diaz will be sent home by Madrid following the release of several attacking players in Madrid. On the other hand, Leao's future is still uncertain now and of course they have to start feeling worried now when their players leave, so this will definitely affect their performance, especially considering their condition this season. Diaz and Leao are one of the players who actually rely on for them.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 09, 2023, 05:30:16 PM
For Inter Miami, Messi became a jackpot, which they got for free. Messi hoped to the last that he would be able to return to Barcelona, but according to him, no one could guarantee that everything would be fine under the terms of the contract, since Barcelona still had financial problems. In Inter Miami, he got a contract for 3 years with a payment of 50 million a year, not bad at all.
Actually Messi really wants to return to Barcelona, the financial problems that are currently befalling Barcelona have prevented them from bringing Messi back to Camp Nou. Not being able to get Messi back was a failure for Barcelona, but on the other hand Barcelona still have luck because Ilkay Gundogan has agreed to join Barcelona. Gundogan and Barcelona have even verbally agreed to a three-year contract, according to reports from Mundo Deportivo Barcelona will announce Gundogan transfer after the Champions League final.
I really think Messi shouldn't have made a move to Inter miami,and should have moved to Premier league instead to make history in the premier league as well.Christiano Ronaldo has played in almost the three major leagues in Europe, Bundesliga,English premier league and Lalliga which he made history in almost all those leagues.Messi is a star we all know,and his coming to premier league would have been a massive boost to EPL.Neverthess,let's wait to see the kind of record he will create at his new club.
It's no longer important even if you expect him to move to the EPL, which club will suit Messi in his current condition and the price is definitely not cheap?
Even in a transfer after he decided not to work with PSG I have not heard of a single EPL club that intends to take Messi.
He is now entering his final years and even though MLS is not seen as much but we are also aware that his income is much bigger now.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 09, 2023, 04:45:01 PM
Snip.
I agree with you that what Erik Ten Hag has done for Manchester United this season deserves appreciation. We also have to remember how Manchester United were before he arrived, and even at the start of the season they had a losing streak which resulted in them being at the bottom of the table at that time. But slowly they can get up and can collect point by point to take them step by step to the top of the standings. and in the end they can be ranked 3rd, it is an achievement for them.
Manchester United also won one title this season, and that was a good start for Erik Ten Hag to bring another title the following season. Don't forget too, they felt the internal problems of the club which disturbed the balance a little, but they managed to get through it well.
I think if Erik Ten Hag is given a longer chance he can revive the championship passion of Manchester United.
When compared to the condition of Manchester United before and after the arrival of Ten Hag, Manchester United is very much different from before. Ten Hag has made a big contribution to improving Manchester United's performance so that they can finish in third place as well as bring them to the UCL competition next season.
Manchester United new chapter has just started with Ten Hag, next season there will be another surprise from Ten Hag after successfully presenting a trophy in his first season. Ten Hag not only revived Manchester United's passion but he has also revived the passion of competition at the top of the EPL, next season Manchester United will be one of the teams among several other big teams that are seeded to fight for the EPL trophy.

There were a number of problems that occurred but it's good that Ten Hag in this case weren't too daunted by the existing problems and they managed to sort it out. well in the end to be in ideal position for the season, 2 times being in finals and 1 trophy is definitely a great depiction that they are completely different this season.
Even though next season there must still be a number of things that need to be changed, especially for their defense which is sometimes very ridiculous, at the moment there is still plenty of time to do that.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 08, 2023, 08:22:03 PM
Mourinho is a coach who really became a hero for AS Roma.
Jose Mourinho is also very loved by As Roma fans and vice versa. In the match against Spezia with a score of 2-1, Jose Mourinho made a celebration that made the fans look excited by going down to the field and greeting the fans after the game. Then he gave a gesture that he would stay at the Olimpico
Then he gave a gesture that he would stay at the Olimpico and would stay at AS Roma and negotiations on extending his contract which would be completed in June 2024.
With Mou's totality in the last final, even though they failed, it seems like this has succeeded in giving extraordinary sympathy because indeed he is now supported by fans from Rome, because before that we knew that he had problems with some of the fans and last season, if I'm not mistaken, he was expected to leave by the fans. fan because of Rome's condition. But now it looks like this has changed and Mou can now continue his career at the club for next season.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 08, 2023, 06:55:00 PM
I already said this before, but i really think that the chances of Borussia Dortmund to become Bundesliga champions this year were extremely high and i don't think that they will get such a big chance again in the next 5 years or so. As you already said, Bayern Munich is by far the strongest team of the Bundesliga and if they are able to at  least reach like 85% of their maximum performance level, then they will win the Bundesliga no matter what the other clubs are doing. This year this was not the case and still Dortmund was not able to profit from that. Now Bayern should be alarmed again and take the next season more serious.
Why do you think that Dortmund has not that chance again to win the German League Title next year.
They getting better and better and every year they getting closer to Bayern Munich, and with Leipzig and Union Berlin there are now 2 more Teams for fight the Title.
Bayern Munich caused the problem themselves with kicking there coach out in an important time they have got a lot of important games.
We could see a totally different ranking next year, you never know, I don't really think Union Berling will be as strong as they were this season, we all saw their performance drop in the last matches of the league, I would count them out of the race of Bundesliga from now, they probably going to end up out of the top 4.
Union in the last few seasons have been quite good but on the other hand now of course they have to realize that the pressure is getting bigger and bigger for them, especially with a lot of current schedules, especially being in the big Champions competition, which is a first for them, they will definitely make this be different.
it would be great if they could still maintain conditions like this season even though they couldn't compete for better conditions but bothering big clubs and being in the top 4 is already a good achievement for them.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 08, 2023, 03:33:19 PM
I think this MLS league is not as big as other leagues, but after Messi will play in the league it will certainly be in the spotlight also in the betting market as well as in the arab league since CR7 moved there, the arab league is becoming more known now even in the betting market too .

Messi departure to Inter Miami, in my opinion, did not necessarily make him comfortable, imagine if we look at Inter Miami standings, it means that it is quite a tough task to restore performance while demanding that he make a bigger contribution than he should like what Messi gave to PSG. Don't think Inter Miami is a runaway just because he wasn't championed by Barcelona and didn't go to the Saudi Arab Club. Or should we simplify, at least Messi arrival to MLS should be able to keep the club safe from the relegation zone. After all, Messi has the influence, reputation, and titles he carried when he came there.
Actually for MLS I don't know how football works there because really looking at the standings there it is divided into 2 conferences namely east and west so I also don't know about the relegation system there because as far as I know there is no relegation in MLS.
As for improving performance, it is clear that this must be done and bring Messi aside from the condition of increasing popularity. His hope is to bring this club to be better than this season, which has fallen sharply from last season's position in 6th position and this season's last position.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 07, 2023, 06:42:08 PM
OMG, that's fucking big!!!

Real madrid has spend 120 millions only for him and there was also a rumor if real madrid will be also spending another 100 million for kane. I never trust the rumor about kane will be going to the real madrid. Is madrid to become another chelsea?
I can imagine if real madrid will have spent 220 millions only for two players. There are so many positions that need to be regenerated again.

Kross and modric are old now. Madrid needs not only bellingham on its mid even though madrid has some good players in mid.
I will be fucking believe if madrid gonna be another chelsea if madrid will agree to buy kane from totenham with 100million as fee.

Sometimes we don't understand how Madrid sign new players they must have made the calculations I mean Madrid understand the situation
when compared with age, $100 million is too expensive for old players but maybe they saw something in Harry Kane considered capable of replacing Benzema
remember that Harry Kane is 2nd in premier league top scorers 6 goals behind Haaland which means the ability is still feasible for at least the next 2 seasons.
Even though it's still decent, the price is still quite debatable, I think because regardless of his performance, at his current age, the price for Kane is too high.
But this is Madrid with their money power which is sometimes as you say difficult to understand as long as their wishes can be achieved without obstacles they are ready to spend more in financial matters.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 07, 2023, 06:21:08 PM
In the end, Stuttgart really didn't want to be beaten by Hamburger SV. In fact, in the second leg which was played at home to Hamburger SV, at least Hamburger SV could have better statistics and that allowed Hamburger SV to be able to win even if only by 1-0. But in the second half Stuttgart again scored three goals and ended the second leg with a final score of 1-3 and that means Stuttgart managed to win 6-1 on aggregate. With these results, of course, Stuttgart remains a team that deserves to play in the Bundesliga next season.

Hamburg got hope with the early goal. Unfortunately they did not score a second goal in the first half. Otherwise it would certainly have been more exciting.
In the second half, however, the difference became obvious. Just like in the first leg. When Stuttgart shifted up a gear, Hamburgs defence was overburdened. Stuttgarts second goal was due to a mistake from the goalkeeper from Hamburg. The third goal did not matter because Hamburg could not have won anyway.
But Hamburg gave a lot to the fans and the atmosphere in the stadium was said to be good. So in the end everyone is happy after all.
Their condition and mentality had been disturbed from the start, especially with a 3-goal deficit, they definitely thought that this was a difficult thing.
But seeing how they played in the first half I was quite happy with them, it's just that for the second half it still looked the same as the first leg where they tried to attack but forgot about the defense which had lots of gaps and could be easily exploited by Stuttgart.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 07, 2023, 05:30:02 PM
Maybe at least the conference league title he won last season can be a bit of a comfort for his players to continue to be excited about all competitions next season and especially for Serie A I think Mourinho wants to give the best results so that Roma are back in the top 4 of the standings.
Yeah but i remind you that if mourinho is still having a chance to make it even better in the future. The fact that if mourinho is ambitious guy. he will always try to give the best result for the that has been managed by him at this moment.
Mourinho will stay for another season. Don't worry.
The problem in this case is that he has to reorganize from the start of the scheme and several players if indeed he stays back at Rome for next season.
Even though the scheme they always use is useful with the defense which is quite annoying because almost all the players are in their defensive area but this scheme is too mainstream for Mou and over time it is easy to penetrate so if he still has a high ambitious level of course he should try to change this from now on.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 07, 2023, 05:03:44 PM
Of course, we cannot fully blame Jamie Vardy for Leicester's failure, because Jamie Vardy himself is very old because he is 36 years old. I think it's time for Jamie Vardy to retire at this age because after all, as an attacker at least Jamie Vardy must have a physically fit and fast movement. Thus, Leicester's failure this season I think is partly due to Leicester's own management who do not have the right plan to recruit players. Due to the lack of recruitment of new players, Leicester's performance also could not develop for the better and this had a direct impact on the poor results in the matches they played.

Football being played by eleven players and it's not only vardy who has been playing it. It will be ashame if people were blaming him caused by it's the fault from whole of players in the club. The coach might become a better party that must be blamed but since leicester has been relegated to the championship and nice try for leicester city. I expect something better from leicester city next season. Leicester must accept if it must have won championship to get back again to the EPL.

Leicester city will be selling some players soon.
It's quite funny if this is only the fault of one of the players, even though in the initial conditions we also realized that their financial condition had worsened and they couldn't bring in the players who were expected to help and the sale of players was not carried out which made the coach at that time a little not too happy with what was done. management.
On the other hand blaming a player when a bad club is childish. but it really seems like this is commonplace because in Ligue 1 PSG is like that  Roll Eyes which makes me lack respect for statements like that because they only see from an angle that according to them deserves to be blamed.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 06, 2023, 07:43:45 PM
Because Napoli have been able to consistently compete in the top four in previous seasons, so next season I personally will remain confident that Napoli will still be a team competing in the top four. Although indeed, it seems certain that in the next season Napoli will have a new coach and also, with key players who will leave the club, but I believe this will not make Napoli so weak that it cannot compete in the top four.
I think this condition still has to see benchmarks about the new coach and the players.
If there aren't many changes in terms of players and their coach has almost the same vision as Spalletti then maybe it can still happen but when their core players leave again at the moment then it's a little difficult I feel with that because it's some of their backbone this season there are still many other big clubs being chased until now and it is still unclear about their future for next season.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 06, 2023, 07:26:21 PM
Werder Bremen have had poor results this season and they were only able to finish 13th in the standings. I think after getting back into the bundesliga this season they will be much better but it seems that the results are not always good. As we know, in the 20/21 season Werder Bremen dropped to division 2 of the bundesliga and were only able to return this season in the highest competition of the bundesliga, but were almost in the relegation zone with a difference of 3 points. I think they need to start next season with even more motivation to get to a better place, we know that Werder Bremen were one of the strongest teams in the early 2000s and Miroslav Klose played many seasons at this club.

I think most of the fans of Werder Bremen are aware that the glorious days of Werder from the early 2000's, were they really were a tough contender of Bayern Munich and even managed to win the Bundesliga title, are over for a long time now. I even think that it is extremely unlikely or even impossible, that Werder will be a top 4 club in Germany again within the next 10 years or so. For that to happen they would need a big investor from outside or stuff like that, but given the fact that in Germany the club needs to hold at least 51% of it's shares themself basically means that there won't be a sheikh or oligarch coming in like it happens often in England.
That is indeed an old story and they also hope but of course they realize that it is too far to be pursued now.
The current conditions for Werder are only in the best competition in the bundesliga, which is good, in my opinion, at least they are not in a lower caste. As for indeed, if they want something much more than this then they really need a lot of capital and they now realize that they don't have enough resources for that.
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