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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bustabit SCAM predator
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on: June 05, 2023, 04:29:57 AM
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From bustabit's thread: 2. The probably fair is manipulated and its conneted to his friend site Cryptogbling.org (an other bitcointalk user site ) to make it look trusted !
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And a lot of people are falling for it
Just me lost over 10.000$ there ( yes the game can be manipulated 10000% ill add a video youtube soon proofing that )
A provably fair system cannot cheat without detection. That's the whole point of being provably fair: Anyone including yourself and anyone reading this thread can independently verify bustabit's fairness without taking my word for it. By calculating the SHA256 hash of each game you can verify that they are part of a chain and therefore predetermined, meaning they could not have reacted to how you bet. By calculating the corresponding multiplier for each game's hash you can verify that bustabit actually used the advertised reference function. And finally you can analyze this reference function to verify that the house edge is indeed 1%. 4. Most of players are Bots , and sometimes to get more people into it he claim that an user is profiting from using script like Lightguide user , so other people fall for it to deposit and try this script
I do not play on bustabit, nor do I employ anyone to play on bustabit, use bots to play on bustabit or otherwise fake activity. It's impossible for me to prove that, but for players the game is provably fair regardless (see above). I made over 100 times deposits there and lost them all one by one
But recently i made a huge deposit and tried to Pre credit it over 5 times but didnt work so i needed to wait till the trasaction get confirmed on blockchain ,
When i login the next day to see if my deposit got confirmed
THERE IS NO DEPOSIT AT ALL AS IT HAS BEEN DELETED FROM OWNER
send a ticket to solve it , and owner that there was not any deposit and the address of deposit has changed
He tries to fool me , but how can i be fooled when i made over 100 deposits and know how bitcoin work very well
As I explained to you at length and multiple times in response to your support request, bustabit can only credit Bitcoin transactions sent to your deposit address after they are confirmed by the Bitcoin network. If a transaction does not send to your deposit address and/or is not confirmed by the Bitcoin network, bustabit has not received any money and cannot credit anything to your account. For details refer to your support request (the one in which you're threatening to post bad reviews every day if I don't pay you 😉). if bustabit owner commet here i would ask just to Drop the Licence number of Curaco
Anyother excuse will be to protect his scam way since 2013
yeah i made Report on all online FED sites
bustabit doesn't hold a license in Curaçao, though I fail to see how that's relevant in the context of provable fairness or deposits to bustabit. Players and investors trust bustabit because it has been operating honestly since 2014, not because some government in the Caribbean says they should. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game
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on: June 05, 2023, 04:26:56 AM
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2. The probably fair is manipulated and its conneted to his friend site Cryptogbling.org (an other bitcointalk user site ) to make it look trusted !
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And a lot of people are falling for it
Just me lost over 10.000$ there ( yes the game can be manipulated 10000% ill add a video youtube soon proofing that )
A provably fair system cannot cheat without detection. That's the whole point of being provably fair: Anyone including yourself and anyone reading this thread can independently verify bustabit's fairness without taking my word for it. By calculating the SHA256 hash of each game you can verify that they are part of a chain and therefore predetermined, meaning they could not have reacted to how you bet. By calculating the corresponding multiplier for each game's hash you can verify that bustabit actually used the advertised reference function. And finally you can analyze this reference function to verify that the house edge is indeed 1%. 4. Most of players are Bots , and sometimes to get more people into it he claim that an user is profiting from using script like Lightguide user , so other people fall for it to deposit and try this script
I do not play on bustabit, nor do I employ anyone to play on bustabit, use bots to play on bustabit or otherwise fake activity. It's impossible for me to prove that, but for players the game is provably fair regardless (see above). I made over 100 times deposits there and lost them all one by one
But recently i made a huge deposit and tried to Pre credit it over 5 times but didnt work so i needed to wait till the trasaction get confirmed on blockchain ,
When i login the next day to see if my deposit got confirmed
THERE IS NO DEPOSIT AT ALL AS IT HAS BEEN DELETED FROM OWNER
send a ticket to solve it , and owner that there was not any deposit and the address of deposit has changed
He tries to fool me , but how can i be fooled when i made over 100 deposits and know how bitcoin work very well
As I explained to you at length and multiple times in response to your support request, bustabit can only credit Bitcoin transactions sent to your deposit address after they are confirmed by the Bitcoin network. If a transaction does not send to your deposit address and/or is not confirmed by the Bitcoin network, bustabit has not received any money and cannot credit anything to your account. For details refer to your support request (the one in which you're threatening to post bad reviews every day if I don't pay you 😉). if bustabit owner commet here i would ask just to Drop the Licence number of Curaco
Anyother excuse will be to protect his scam way since 2013
yeah i made Report on all online FED sites
bustabit doesn't hold a license in Curaçao, though I fail to see how that's relevant in the context of provable fairness or deposits to bustabit. Players and investors trust bustabit because it has been operating honestly since 2014, not because some government in the Caribbean says they should. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustadice – Next Generation Dice
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on: February 13, 2023, 03:38:34 PM
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Previously, the commission rate paid by bankroll investors was calculated by converting the bankroll to special drawing rights (XDR) using the average exchange rate of the past 360 days, then dividing the result by 80,000,000 XDR. Going forwards, the average exchange rate of the past 180 days will be used instead, allowing the commission rate and by extension the bankroll to react to changes in Bitcoin's price faster. The immediate effect is a reduction of the commission rate paid by investors from approximately 46% to 36%. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game
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on: February 13, 2023, 03:38:12 PM
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Previously, the commission rate paid by bankroll investors was calculated by converting the bankroll to special drawing rights (XDR) using the average exchange rate of the past 360 days, then dividing the result by 55,000,000 XDR. Going forwards, the average exchange rate of the past 180 days will be used instead, allowing the commission rate and by extension the bankroll to react to changes in Bitcoin's price faster. The immediate effect is a reduction of the commission rate paid by investors from approximately 67% to 52%. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game
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on: January 16, 2023, 01:24:43 AM
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That's really all there is to know about the situation: bustabit has the right to refuse service to anyone and has made use of that right to refuse service to you. You can disagree with my reasoning for banning you, but won't change that you are permanently (read: forever) banned.
We've had this conversation ad nauseam and there is nothing left to discuss. Refer to our email threads and your previous posts in this thread instead.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game
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on: January 15, 2023, 03:54:39 PM
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I'll just quote myself from a previous occasion on which you mistakenly thought complaining here would make me lift your ban: See my previous posts, which I believe were quite clear: Assuming the name of your bustabit.com account is also Perplex005, I disabled betting for your account because I think that you have a gambling problem, which I explained to you several times. Obviously I can't stop you from gambling entirely, but given the things you have told me I don't think you should be gambling on bustabit or anywhere else. I will not change my mind regardless of how many times you complain about it.
I will not go into more detail as I cannot verify that this is indeed your bustabit account and also do not publicly discuss support requests and emails that users sent me in confidence in general.
You may not bet or chat on bustabit or bustadice because it is clear to me that you have a gambling problem. Based on your posts in this forum alone I am confident any reasonable person would agree with that assessment, not to mention your behavior via chat and email. I will not reconsider my decision–which I have explained to you at length multiple times–and I will no longer respond to your emails and support requests demanding to be allowed to bet again.
However, your ability to withdraw your money is not and never has been restricted. So once again: Please withdraw any remaining balance you may have and refrain from using bustabit.
You are not welcome on bustabit and I'd appreciate if you could stop spamming this thread with the same pointless complaint over and over again. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustadice – Next Generation Dice
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on: January 08, 2023, 12:21:00 AM
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bustabit scripts aren't compatible with bustadice as the games are fundamentally different. On bustabit the game is always running whether you bet or not, so thinking about it in terms of events makes sense ("when the game starts, do this", "when the game ends, do this" etc.). On the other hand on bustadice nothing happens unless you place a bet, so scripts are more active rather than reactive.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustadice – Next Generation Dice
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on: October 22, 2022, 10:26:46 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to check the seed. You can see your revealed seed as well as the hash of your unrevealed seed at https://bustadice.com/play/seed. In addition the seed is shown on each of your wagers' pages once you have revealed the seed used for that wager. Hopefully this is obvious, but there is no betting strategy that is guaranteed to win. bustadice has a house edge of 1%, so any bet or sequence of bets expects to lose 1% of what you wager. You were not scammed merely because you lost at a casino. Also, consider that rolling below 1.08x five times in a row is not as unlikely as you might believe. The probability of seeing such a streak in 10,000 bets is 4%, in 100,000 bets it is already 33% and 1,000,000 bets have a 98% probability of seeing such a streak. bustadice proves its fairness using cryptography and math, so if you have any doubts you can verify that you lost fairly. Simply go to https://bustadice.github.io/verifier/ and follow the instructions. For what it's worth this tool's source code is public. You can view it by simply inspecting the page's source code in your browser or at https://github.com/bustadice/verifier/blob/gh-pages/index.html. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game
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on: August 05, 2022, 11:53:23 AM
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What I mean are the calls to donate you posted in the Ukranian and spam chat channels. You spoke about them in this forum yourself. And before that, I asked you to calm down the Russian moderator so that he would troll the Ukrainian chat with fake rains, but you did not react in any way.
I have no idea what you're referring to. You have not sent me any support requests nor emails about anyone breaking the chat rules, nor have you brought it up here until now. In any case, I'm having difficulty understanding the problem. You claimed that you were threatened, but you were not. You claimed that you were IP-banned in retaliation for asking for donations, but you were not. You claimed that you were banned from receiving rain, but you were not. What are you upset about? You are welcome to continue advertising charities in the spam channel, but not in any other channels. The chat rules apply to everyone and regardless of circumstances. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game
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on: August 05, 2022, 04:32:16 AM
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It started with my first publication of a volunteer link in support of Ukraine.
At first, I received threats in the Ukrainian channel and several IP blocking.
And the rain immediately stopped on me.
In these actions of Daniel, the pro-Russian position is clearly visible.
I understand that investors want to protect their investments, but don't be the devil's advocate for your own conscience.
You were asked not to ask for money in chat, which has been a part of bustabit's chat rules for years: Please don't post trade offers and other advertisements outside of the spam channel. You were not threatened. bustabit does not use IP address bans to enforce chat rules or ban players. However, to prevent denial of service attacks Cloudflare's firewall automatically bans IP addresses that make an excessive number of requests, for example. Given your history of trying to stir up trouble I suspect your IP address was never blocked to begin with, but if it was you can send me a private message with the IP address and I will unblock it again. And as I've already explained, you were not blocked from receiving rain. In fact, no players are blocked from receiving rain. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game
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on: August 04, 2022, 04:35:08 AM
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Shiba takes into account a variety of factors such as your chat, wager and rain histories to determine whether you are eligible to receive a rain. Your political opinions are not one of them.
The only people that are actually blocked from receiving rain are myself and Ryan (on his request).
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Economy / Reputation / Re: I would like to address my negative trust feedback and apologise
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on: August 02, 2022, 04:13:15 AM
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My understanding it it's open source, so anyone can use it. But if you want to run your own site with it, you need to pay for a license - otherwise you're stealing it.
Sort of. In principle publishing source code in itself doesn't grant any rights to use it yet. But bustabit v1 is released under the AGPLv3, a common open source license. That means that anyone can use it for free–even commercially–as long as they abide by the terms of the license. Mainly that means publishing your fork of the source code under the same license. Casinos only need to purchase a paid license from bustabit if they want to use the code without making it open source under the AGPLv3 themselves. Arguably the biggest issue here isn't even plagiarizing bustadice's website–which has never been open source for what it's worth–using the verifier code without permission or potentially pirating back end code from bustabit v1. None of those are mistakes that 8bethub couldn't have come back from had they owned it, apologized and actually fixed the issues. But denying allegations even when they are obviously true for everyone to see and gaslighting anyone that points it out is a huge red flag IMO. Thank you for creating the screenshot compilation, by the way. I hadn't even realized the plagiarism went so deep and assumed it was mainly just the landing page. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game
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on: July 30, 2022, 04:17:23 PM
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Daniel. Is it you or your moderators who threaten people for posting volunteer links in support of Ukraine?
I asked this question to you in the chat, but you kept silent and immediately disconnected.
Asking for money for any purpose is forbidden on bustabit and you were reminded of that after repeatedly asking for donations: Please don't post trade offers and other advertisements outside of the spam channel. Is that what made you feel threatened? |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustadice – Next Generation Dice
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on: July 30, 2022, 03:46:41 PM
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They never responded when I asked them what the problem was 🤷♂️
bustadice processes all withdrawals automatically for what it's worth. My guess is they simply forgot to authorize their withdrawal by clicking the link sent to their email address after requesting it.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game
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on: July 04, 2022, 08:00:48 AM
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It had been quite some time since I last posted in this thread. I found an image that I intended to post to but never got round to doing it. It just so happened I was on the website back months ago and waited around for a few minutes to see what was happening... then this happened:
572x winning on Crash does not happen every day.... or does it?
I'm sorry to disappoint, but based on its probability you'd actually expect to see 6 to 7 multipliers greater than 572x every day 😅 I want to know if what you a saying is the method of making a withdrawal in this platform I have seen many steps you mentioned actually is not hard or difficult I left you are misinformed that is what will make you not to know how to get it right and secondly I can see that you are the one more explaining,are you the original owner of this because the way you are explaining it shows that maybe you are attached to the team of this platform
This looks like signature campaign spam, but if I'm wrong please clarify what your question is. |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game
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on: June 27, 2022, 10:37:34 AM
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Thanks to both of you for bringing them to my attention. Both LuckyBust and 8bethub are obviously plagiarizing bustabit.com and bustadice.com including some of our code, sometimes in pretty hilarious ways. For example, LuckyBust didn't even bother to change the name of bustabit's operating company (Apis N.V.) when they copied our terms of service 🤦♂️
I've left 8betbust an appropriate trust rating on bitcointalk.org and I'll add both websites to bustabit's license.txt file. Apart from that all we can do is try to warn players of shady operators like that.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Places where you can bet 50 BTC on 50/50 odds?
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on: June 16, 2022, 07:19:49 PM
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bustabit and bustadice will both let you bet 50 BTC, but the bankroll sizes doesn't allow for a double or nothing bet. The closest you can get with that amount is betting on 1.35x on bustadice with a 73.3% probability of winning. If it absolutely must be a double or nothing bet I'll play you RPS for it like Ryan suggested. Come find me in bustabit's chat if you're interested!  |
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Economy / Gambling / Re: bustadice – Next Generation Dice
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on: April 27, 2022, 01:09:48 PM
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someone have problem withdraw their money from this site? i guess its another scam site. i guess it be since it make it so hard to withrawl from site
What kind of problem? All withdrawals from bustadice are processed automatically and instantaneously (as long as you don't uncheck the "Instant withdrawal" box), so I'm not sure what you mean. The best way to get help with your bustadice account is by submitting a support request at https://bustadice.com/support. I'm not on the Bitcoin Forums every day, but I respond to all support requests via email within at most 24 hours. |
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