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841  Economy / Services / Offline Advertising Opportunity on: July 04, 2012, 07:41:36 PM
Edit: Price adjusted to reflect current exchange rate.

Are you a bitcoin business owner looking for a new way to advertise? How about a hundred people in the US walking around with your logo on their back?

Here's how it will work:

1. 100 shirts will be printed with "Bitcoin is Freedom" on the front and five advertisers' logos listed on the back.

2. Each advertiser pays 0.25 BTC for each shirt they want their logo on (minimum 10 shirts).

3. Shirts will be distributed for free via SearchingForSatoshi.com to anyone who asks for one. (No purchase necessary!)

4. At least ten, and maybe as many as 100, people are walking around with your logo on their back for only 2.5 to 25 BTC!

Ad space may be purchased at http://www.unofficialbtc.com/store/ (Logos in image are for demonstration purposes only.)

842  Other / Meta / Re: Independent scam investigations on: July 03, 2012, 02:48:23 PM
Okay, I've thrown a very basic website together, basically just a place to explain what we do and to list known scammers, accept donations and with a contact page. Anyone other than Maged interested in participating?
843  Other / Off-topic / Re: Post a lie about the person above you! on: July 02, 2012, 05:29:11 AM
^ is worried that Phinnaeus will stop sending x-rated PMs if he finds out ^'s true gender.
844  Other / Meta / Re: Independent scam investigations on: July 01, 2012, 08:47:27 PM
As for dividing the money, there is the problem that many investigations are extremely easy, and some are absurdly hard. I don't know what we'd do about that. It might just work out fine depending on the people in the group, but I could see it falling apart if some people only take the easy stuff.

That will be tricky. This should be on a strictly volunteer basis but you're right that one job may require much more work than another.

The only way that I see would be to have everyone fill out some sort of spreadsheet detailing the work done and the time it took. I'd hate to have to break it down too much, however. Maybe jobs could be classified as Easy, Average, and Difficult with relevant pay rates.
845  Other / Meta / Re: Independent scam investigations on: July 01, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
Also, all of our information doesn't need to be posted publicly, nor should it. Not even the reports to theymos. Too much private information is contained in those communications to release publicly. I'm all for the information being released to the rest of the group, though. Of course, if either party in an investigation wants to go public, that is on them.

Sounds reasonable but theymos was the one requesting a thread containing all the evidence.

Scam investigators need to convince me that someone is almost certainly a scammer. This is done by:
- Finding conclusive evidence that the suspect has scammed someone.
- Compiling all of the evidence into a short report (not strewn across a huge thread).
- Posting all of the evidence in a new thread in "Trading discussion".
- After at least a few days of public discussion, send me the link to the thread with the evidence.

846  Other / Meta / Re: Independent scam investigations on: July 01, 2012, 07:44:24 PM
I do liked Maged, though, is something preventing him from doing this anymore? Or has it just been too much work?
If you look at any of my posts from the past week, you'll notice two things:
1) There's fewer of them.
2) They're posted at very strange times for someone who lives in the US...

Well, the reason for that is that I'm actually not in the US right now  Grin. For the next several weeks, I'll be based out of Norway!

For the first week, here, I didn't take any new scam reports because I was jet-lagged and I wanted to go exploring. However, I'm once again accepting a limited number of scam reports (in fact, I'm about to process one that was in my queue right now!). I don't know entirely how much time I will have, nor when, so I'll still hold back on accepting too many.

If anybody wants to learn how to process a scam report, contact me with one that you're willing to do and I'll walk you through the process. Theymos basically told you what's needed here, but there are a few subtle things that I'd prefer not to reveal publicly that if scammers knew about, could prolong an investigation for months (see: Shakaru). Be warned: the average scam report that I process ends up taking about 1 hour total between gathering background information and communicating with the various parties. More obvious stuff takes just a few minutes, but the harder stuff takes several hours.

Edit: I'll reveal one important tip here: When you are processing a scammer case, always view things from the accused point of view and then try to prove that the hypothetical argument that the scammer could make is false. Do this before you even contact them, since there's no reason to harass someone when there wasn't a good case against them anyway. (So if I ever contact you about a scam, you should know that things must be pretty bad for you...)

It's wonderful that you're willing to do the work to follow up on these scammer accusations, Maged, but I'm thinking that a dedicated group of scammer investigators is a good idea for the community. It's doubtful that anyone would pay just for corroboration after they've already lost money but I do believe there's a way to get at least some recompense for the work involved in compiling the necessary evidence.

Here's my idea:

Set up a website to outline what exactly we do (compiling evidence solely for the purpose of confirming that a scam has been perpetrated by a specific user). I'll put up a donation address, some ads, and maybe do an occasional fundraiser, as well.

Each investigator will be in a rotating schedule for new investigations but may turn down any job for any reason.

Upon completion of an investigation, all pertinent information will be posted at the bitcointalk forums in a dedicated thread and I'll point theymos to it so that he may make a decision about tagging the accused as a scammer.

At the end of each month, all proceeds (minus the cost of hosting) will be divided among investigators based on the number of their completed investigations during that month. For example, if there are three participating investigators and Investigators #1 and #2 complete two jobs each and Investigator #3 completes one job, then #1 and #2 each get 40% of the proceeds and #3 gets 20%.

This is all just off the top of my head so any comments or suggestions are welcome.
847  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin ecosystem on: July 01, 2012, 07:39:25 PM
Technically, these businesses exist. I sell coffee at BitBrew to several bitcoin based business owners and I, in turn spend some of my profits in the form of BTC for goods and services. I haven't bought or sold any bitcoins through an exchange in months.

Unfortunately, I'm still forced to pay my day to day living expenses in USD, however. Until I can easily pay for gasoline, groceries, my mortgage, utility bills, and other necessary items with bitcoins, I'll keep my day job.

848  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why do you trust bitcoin in one sentence. on: June 26, 2012, 10:04:50 PM
Not only does Bitcoin have the potential to become a global currency without the backing of any government or organization, it eliminates the need to rely on payment processors for online payments.

Edit: I realize this doesn't quite answer the question but it was an off-the-cuff response. When I have a bit more time, I'll write a more accurate and concise statement.
849  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Something better than Operation Fabulous? on: June 26, 2012, 12:27:14 AM
From edd:

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Subject: New Owners!
Date: June 10, 2012 Ė 5:50 pm

As some of you may have heard, BioMike has handed over the reins of Operation Fabulous to myself (edd) and maplesyrupghost of bitcointrading.com. While we havenít been intentionally secretive, we havenít made an official announcement yet regarding how each of us will be involved in running the site either, and Iíd like to rectify that today.

BioMike will continue on as a technical advisor and will maintain a stake in the business.

Maplesyrupghost and I will be responsible for the direction and actions of Operation Fabulous and may be reached via the Contact Page.

We all have some exciting ideas for the future of OpFab and its role in the Bitcoin Economy, so stay tuned for more announcements in the days and weeks ahead!

 - http://opfab.net/new-owners

The problem is, in trying to contact them, submitting on the Contact Page gives:
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Failed to send your message. Please try later or contact the administrator by another method.



Should be fixed now. Thanks for the heads up!
850  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Politicians forking the block chain on: June 23, 2012, 04:05:10 PM
No government can simply decide to insert its own rules or restrictions into Bitcoin as it exists today and a fork different enough to allow it would be almost unrecognizable as related to the original client. It would be much easier for them to simply follow Canada's example and issue their own digital currency and then outlaw the use of Bitcoin. This wouldn't necessarily cause it to "fall out of favor" but would force legitimate businesses already accepting it to decide whether or not they wanted to fight or flaunt the applicable laws. If anything, I think this would increase Bitcoin's appeal as an underdog/Robin Hood player although one would have to use more discretion with transactions.
851  Other / Off-topic / Re: Change ONLY one word in the above paragraph. on: June 22, 2012, 11:25:23 PM
Sorry Edd, had to fix it.

Well, I was going to use fiat but kept thinking of the car.  Tongue


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Satoshi Nakamoto, handsome, brilliant, and rich, with an unknown home and happy hashes, seemed to demolish some of the worst shortcomings of Fiat; and had lived over nine-thousand years in the Internets with very little to distress or nuke Blueseed.
852  Other / Off-topic / Re: Change ONLY one word in the above paragraph. on: June 22, 2012, 11:04:41 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto, handsome, clever, and rich, with an unknown home and happy hashes, seemed to demolish some of the best blessings of money; and had lived over nine-thousand years in the Internets with very little to distress or nuke Blueseed.
853  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is there anyone else in the Construction / Engineering / Arch. Fields? on: June 22, 2012, 10:59:25 PM
Are you just interested in "professionals" or are you  gauging the general level of skills of forum members?

I have no certification but I've done almost all my own electrical, plumbing, and A/C repairs for the last 15 years. My wife and I owned and operated a high volume dry cleaning plant from 1997 to 2007, during which time everything that could break down did at one time or another and if I didn't know how to fix it when it happened, I made darn sure I did by the time the repairman left. I also kept my accounts with the business-to-business and wholesale suppliers I've used (though I'd have a very hard time legally purchasing dry cleaning solvent now  Wink ).

The only area I haven't really dabbled in is carpentry.
854  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 10000 BTC for a pizza? on: June 22, 2012, 03:36:49 PM
I'd give 1 BTC for a pizza right now.

i wouldn't.  1 btc will be in the thousands very soon.

Not if people don't exchange them for other things, like pizzas.
855  Economy / Economics / Re: What's the best answer to this question ? "What is its backing? " on: June 20, 2012, 11:30:24 PM
I mean, that's really all there is to it.  It's backed by a sufficient number of people believing that it has value.

I would add, "...just like conventional currencies."
856  Economy / Services / Re: Sponsors are needed for my next BeagleBone tutorial all are welcome! on: June 20, 2012, 03:32:38 AM
You should contact 12 O'Clock Survival. The BeagleBone is listed on their products page and they accept bitcoins.
Do they? I've taken a quick look at their site, but there's no sign of them accepting bitcoins though.

Their site is a little confusing (different styles and menus on just about every page) but it does state pretty clearly on the Home page:
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We take privacy and security very seriously. We believe Bitcoin is the ideal way to have the safety and security of cash, with the convienence of digital currencies.

We prefer payments in bitcoin as well as offer services related to bitcoin.
857  Economy / Services / Re: Sponsors are needed for my next BeagleBone tutorial all are welcome! on: June 20, 2012, 03:13:00 AM
You should contact 12 O'Clock Survival. The BeagleBone is listed on their products page and they accept bitcoins.
858  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hey for the love of Satoshi can I PLEASE pay a tx fee? on: June 18, 2012, 06:28:37 AM
Are you certain the exchanges don't pay any fees to miners?
859  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: question about bitcoin wallet on: June 17, 2012, 06:49:43 PM
"What do you mean by that?"
I mean that i send payment to some address and than i receive back payment to the same address that the payment was sent from.
 

I was quoting the post where the person just wrote "yes"

I'm assuming they meant that there isn't anything preventing you from receiving coins at any wallet you wish.
860  Other / Off-topic / Thermodynamic based cryptography trumping quantum based? on: June 17, 2012, 06:19:15 PM
Quote from: R. Mingesz, L. B. Kish, Z. Gingl, C. G. Granqvist, H. Wen, F. Peper, T. Eubank, G. Schmera
It has been shown recently that the use of two pairs of resistors with enhanced Johnson-noise and a Kirchhoff-loop-i.e., a Kirchhoff-Law-Johnson-Noise (KLJN) protocol-for secure key distribution leads to information theoretic security levels superior to those of a quantum key distribution, including a natural immunity against a man-in-the-middle attack.

http://arxiv.org/abs/1206.2534

I'll admit some of this goes over my head but I'm curious as to what our resident physicists think. Is this type of cryptography based on the second law of thermodynamics really harder to break than that based on quantum mechanics?
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