...I'm not sure why you are being such an arrogant prick, when you clearly are struggling to explain this in between insults.
What I'm struggling with is holding back the urge to not just type: You are a feken idiot! as a complete reply to everything you type. The coinbase transaction of every block has similar to: That is the reward for that block, 5 is the current base reward and if it's over 5, then you got paid fees. It's that feken simple! If you got paid outside of the coinbase transaction, then it is not a block reward, but rather a private transaction.One cannot stress enough: ...This is not a UNIT issue, this is a you don't know what the fek you're doing issue.
Show me the block reward txid for the block I posted (0000000000000016614c594bdab2e85b40900307f2b0d2326ab318aefa31adfd). That's all I ask. |
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... It doesn't ALWAYS seem to be this way--but for the majority of UNIT blocks, the reward is getting paid in the next block. It makes sense--how else could I possibly have mined blocks that are clearly in the main chain, but never received a reward? That is literally impossible unless the reward is getting paid in the next block.
I've clearly proved my point here and I'm done with your accusations of my lack of knowledge. If you're going to continuously accuse me of stupidity, then I am not willing to continue this conversation. Have a great life.
- You haven't the vaguest idea what you're on about
- You haven't the vaguest idea how to run a stratum pool
- You haven't the vaguest idea about UNIT
- You haven't the vaguest idea about whatever pool software you're using
- You haven't the vaguest idea that your stratum is what is paying you later
- You haven't the vaguest idea about Bitcoin protocol
- You continually type stupid things that lead me to comment on the level of stupidity you typed
You're "getting paid in the next block" because that's what you told your pool to do. As you have it set up, you're getting you're block reward and then pissing away fees repaying yourself later. This is not a UNIT issue, this is a you don't know what the fek you're doing issue.I think I know a bit. But aside from all that, what you're saying is impossible. The pool is NOT paying the block reward. You're just wrong. What you're thinking of is the pool making payments to miners--that is turned off completely in my pool config. If you actually took the time to look at what I posted, you will see that the transaction in the next block has "generated":true, meaning that it's generated coins. It's not a payment to miners. There are no payments to miners. I'm not sure why you are being such an arrogant prick, when you clearly are struggling to explain this in between insults. |
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I am not sure why you chose that block. If you look at a block that actually paid me, e.g. 0000000000000016614c594bdab2e85b40900307f2b0d2326ab318aefa31adfd: {
"hash" : "0000000000000016614c594bdab2e85b40900307f2b0d2326ab318aefa31adfd",
"confirmations" : 25214,
...
"previousblockhash" : "a1e202e116a5bdc6a09cd2b1ba269b07b4f851bf1d99326f7beb8ba78a30169f",
"nextblockhash" : "0000000000000013f0f483849f600f1ed2ef0bc426a1239193e01274d32810ab",
"flags" : "proof-of-work",
"proofhash" : "0000000000000016614c594bdab2e85b40900307f2b0d2326ab318aefa31adfd",
"entropybit" : 1,
"modifier" : "bb5363e560e189a1",
"modifierchecksum" : "0ac5cbc9",
"tx" : [
"a62324c29acdf2f34d5995947434d464497f38cbbe067d04308aab140558a02b"
]
}The only transaction there, a62324c29acdf2f34d5995947434d464497f38cbbe067d04308aab140558a02b, did NOT pay the reward for that block: {
"txid" : "a62324c29acdf2f34d5995947434d464497f38cbbe067d04308aab140558a02b",
"version" : 2,
"time" : 1519221130,
"locktime" : 0,
"vin" : [
{
"coinbase" : "038ca92d048c798d5a0881001011b27f47007969696d7000",
"sequence" : 0
}
],
"vout" : [
{
"value" : 5.00000000,
"n" : 0,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "0331182068972fc1c29f4f76f81a786d7ab296602fb41b2c1e354e29136b0d5c84 OP_CHECKSIG",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkey",
"addresses" : [
"PMNfpij1zymvFsbmfQ4b36hLJJBScADdDa" <====== not my address
]
}
}
],
"blockhash" : "0000000000000016614c594bdab2e85b40900307f2b0d2326ab318aefa31adfd",
"confirmations" : 25214
}
Instead, if you look at the next block, 0000000000000013f0f483849f600f1ed2ef0bc426a1239193e01274d32810ab: {
"hash" : "0000000000000013f0f483849f600f1ed2ef0bc426a1239193e01274d32810ab",
"confirmations" : 25219,
...
"tx" : [
"838959a5faac1576bb729ce32e454c7a1eefba12cee8a34c5b35621a3a663a82"
]
}
and tx 838959...: {
"txid" : "838959a5faac1576bb729ce32e454c7a1eefba12cee8a34c5b35621a3a663a82",
"version" : 1,
"time" : 1519221136,
"locktime" : 0,
"vin" : [
{
"coinbase" : "038da92d0493798d5a0828000000e8e7bd000d2f6e6f64655374726174756d2f",
"sequence" : 0
}
],
"vout" : [
{
"value" : 5.00000000,
"n" : 0,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "03bf809c72626f4b294879399874f1f5dc1c1007f7f1de94a20e1a2a9227182fbd OP_CHECKSIG",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkey",
"addresses" : [
"P9JqSckAnXkg4qzf6eAS9tQ2u7qPbBbwyX"
]
}
},
{
"value" : 0.00000000,
"n" : 1,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 ecf809f1ec0ba4faa909d5175e405902a21282be OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"PWC9mHZcmZnwHdSvuJr88XrLJAY11dN6bQ"
]
}
},
{
"value" : 0.00000000,
"n" : 2,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 22851477d63a085dbc2398c8430af1c09e7343f6 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"PBjhZ41Kbhpnc4Cnc1KuWeTZdHjqQYqLtg"
]
}
}
],
"amount" : 5.00000000,
"confirmations" : 25219,
"generated" : true,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000013f0f483849f600f1ed2ef0bc426a1239193e01274d32810ab",
"blockindex" : 0,
"blocktime" : 1519221136,
"txid" : "838959a5faac1576bb729ce32e454c7a1eefba12cee8a34c5b35621a3a663a82",
"time" : 1519221136,
"timereceived" : 1519221149,
"details" : [
{
"account" : "Pool main wallet",
"address" : "P9JqSckAnXkg4qzf6eAS9tQ2u7qPbBbwyX",
"category" : "generate",
"amount" : 5.00000000
}
]
}
you finally see the block reward. It doesn't ALWAYS seem to be this way--but for the majority of UNIT blocks, the reward is getting paid in the next block. It makes sense--how else could I possibly have mined blocks that are clearly in the main chain, but never received a reward? That is literally impossible unless the reward is getting paid in the next block. I've clearly proved my point here and I'm done with your accusations of my lack of knowledge. If you're going to continuously accuse me of stupidity, then I am not willing to continue this conversation. Have a great life. |
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...Universal currency pays block rewards in the next block, not the mined block...
Where, in the name of crypto, did you get that monkey feked idea? Seems the next lingo you need to learn is "coinbase transaction".  Look at the UNIT blockchain and get back to me. |
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...I mined 7 blocks. I posted the block hashes for all 7. Two of them DID NOT PAY the block rewards. I was trying to understand why I did not receive block rewards for those two blocks... You can call me a "dick" all you want, that doesn't change the fact that "because, Bitcoin" is the answer to your question (even if you choose to ignorantly refuse to accept that factual answer). Such a helpful response. I appreciate it--you are of course correct. Never mind that unlike "Bitcoin," Universal currency pays block rewards in the next block, not the mined block. That would have been a more helpful response. So really, "bitcoin" has NOTHING to do with this particular issue, because this is NOT POSSIBLE with bitcoin. So thanks for nothing. Still waiting on my incorrect "lingo." |
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I mined 7 blocks, all of which are in the blockchain. However, 2 of the rewards were not paid--the blocks that should have paid the rewards were orphaned.
Are you sure you know how the blockchain works?
Again, " the blocks that should have paid the rewards were orphaned" is wrong, because all 7 "should have paid the rewards". If " the blocks that should have paid the rewards were orphaned", then all 7 would be orphaned. Because, "rewards" and Bitcoin! Are you sure you know how English works? OK, now you're just being a dick (well you were being a dick before, but I didn't call you out). I mined 7 blocks. I posted the block hashes for all 7. Two of them DID NOT PAY the block rewards. I was trying to understand why I did not receive block rewards for those two blocks. Did you even try to look at the blockchain or help in some way? Nope, just accused me of not understanding mining or the "lingo." No idea why you keep saying Because, "rewards" and Bitcoin! Makes you look like an idiot TBH. Still waiting for the "lingo" I used incorrectly. |
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Well, we can start with the word "reward" and go from there... block reward: The amount that miners may claim as a reward for creating a block. [Bitcoin Glossary] Perhaps you were upset that I used "reward" instead of "block reward." Not sure what your issue is here. If that were true, you'd have 5-7 orphans and not 2...Because, Bitcoin!
I was pretty clear in my post. I mined 7 blocks, all of which are in the blockchain. However, 2 of the rewards were not paid--the blocks that should have paid the rewards were orphaned. Are you sure you know how the blockchain works? |
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...I guess I will just stop mining Universal...
My suggestion for you would be to stop mining completely until you understand Bitcoin "lingo", what mining is, and how mining works. But, that's just my 2¢ LOL. Thanks for the advice EDIT: What "lingo" do I not understand, exactly? My point is that there is a ridiculously high orphan rate for Universal, which throws off my profitability calculations. FYI, been mining since GPUs could profitably mine bitcoin. |
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Today I mined 7 blocks but got rewards for only 5. Apparently the blocks paying the reward are often getting orphaned. It's like double jeopardy--both the block I mine AND the block paying the reward have a significant chance of being orphaned--and either way I don't get paid. I'm currently seeing 25%+ of my rewards get orphaned.
I guess I will just stop mining Universal.
Today's mined blocks (* indicates reward not paid):
Block found: 000000000000000de41d4c24d5d6823b20cc5f8019100493e269f65e8ff7a7dc
Block found: 0000000000000011a2b931268e96e6fa65ac78dc76b8714b8309e96728cd707d*
Block found: 0000000000000011015daea1000bdf10d22074c553048002f54af1486376a42f
Block found: 4a1627069d23ac5ef755897462badfba3c34bf75a95147a0143b51aeb5bbc703
Block found: 30d513118d98307aaa5859bd0020ec21fc717400108d77caf2f48d11b0aac74c
Block found: 9f1a13fc34fd303221a80091439a189eaae401f218f0fad6c2773366687c48b9*
Block found: 00000000000000051216f13a9e046dcf97d9f47137f71c1430b3508d4f4e5f34
I am wondering if this is true for all "fast" coins? I also mine DGB but have not noticed this happen with that currency. I will keep a closer eye on it...
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I mined 6 blocks this morning; however, only 5 paid block rewards. In each of the 5 blocks that paid, the reward tx was in the next block.
In the block that was found and not paid (000000000000001fb16ef7577c145423c214044e78993aff23d20050a06710c9), the next block contains only a "NONSTANDARD" tx and a proof of stake payment.
I am pretty baffled--this sure seems like a bug in the currency itself. Now granted, this is only about $7 worth of coins, but my margins are slim doing this kind of mining and losing ~17% of rewards makes it not profitable for me.
For reference, my mining address is P9JqSckAnXkg4qzf6eAS9tQ2u7qPbBbwyX. Here is the log from my pool in which I found the 6 blocks:
2018-02-21 08:46:52 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 2) Block found: e346f0993c03aacdb4c54a178b75204b6898d8e58422a99c8f4a2be278c66eda
2018-02-21 08:47:40 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 1) Block found: 0000000000000010480408fc3e72541f8111c2966be141bfef3a645ea1f6e184
2018-02-21 08:50:54 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 1) Block found: 6285fe2017d11474f39072d955bbbd3f218dcad7931fc813ca3e85830fafab95
2018-02-21 08:52:12 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 1) Block found: 000000000000001fb16ef7577c145423c214044e78993aff23d20050a06710c9
2018-02-21 08:52:32 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 1) Block found: 0000000000000016614c594bdab2e85b40900307f2b0d2326ab318aefa31adfd
2018-02-21 08:52:50 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 1) Block found: 0000000000000013f0f483849f600f1ed2ef0bc426a1239193e01274d32810ab
Anyone who can show me where the block reward was paid for that block?
[EDIT]
I think the block that paid the reward was orphaned:
REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000000001fb16e..000000000000001c8716
REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; 000000000000001fb16e..0000000000000016614c
REORGANIZE: done
Is that possible? If so, wow, that sucks for me.
Which pool you use ?  I'm running my own pool. |
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I think the block that paid the reward was orphaned:
REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000000001fb16e..000000000000001c8716
REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; 000000000000001fb16e..0000000000000016614c
REORGANIZE: done
Is that possible? If so, wow, that sucks for me.
Welcome to the world of consensus  The funny part is, the "reconnected" block is one that I mined as well (16614c) |
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I mined 6 blocks this morning; however, only 5 paid block rewards. In each of the 5 blocks that paid, the reward tx was in the next block.
In the block that was found and not paid (000000000000001fb16ef7577c145423c214044e78993aff23d20050a06710c9), the next block contains only a "NONSTANDARD" tx and a proof of stake payment.
I am pretty baffled--this sure seems like a bug in the currency itself. Now granted, this is only about $7 worth of coins, but my margins are slim doing this kind of mining and losing ~17% of rewards makes it not profitable for me.
For reference, my mining address is P9JqSckAnXkg4qzf6eAS9tQ2u7qPbBbwyX. Here is the log from my pool in which I found the 6 blocks:
2018-02-21 08:46:52 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 2) Block found: e346f0993c03aacdb4c54a178b75204b6898d8e58422a99c8f4a2be278c66eda
2018-02-21 08:47:40 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 1) Block found: 0000000000000010480408fc3e72541f8111c2966be141bfef3a645ea1f6e184
2018-02-21 08:50:54 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 1) Block found: 6285fe2017d11474f39072d955bbbd3f218dcad7931fc813ca3e85830fafab95
2018-02-21 08:52:12 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 1) Block found: 000000000000001fb16ef7577c145423c214044e78993aff23d20050a06710c9
2018-02-21 08:52:32 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 1) Block found: 0000000000000016614c594bdab2e85b40900307f2b0d2326ab318aefa31adfd
2018-02-21 08:52:50 [Pool] [universal currency] (Thread 1) Block found: 0000000000000013f0f483849f600f1ed2ef0bc426a1239193e01274d32810ab
Anyone who can show me where the block reward was paid for that block?
[EDIT]
I think the block that paid the reward was orphaned:
REORGANIZE: Disconnect 1 blocks; 000000000000001fb16e..000000000000001c8716
REORGANIZE: Connect 2 blocks; 000000000000001fb16e..0000000000000016614c
REORGANIZE: done
Is that possible? If so, wow, that sucks for me.
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I've posted a new snapshot of the UNIT blockchain on my Google Drive for anyone interested. This is current through about 2/2/2018 11 AM EST. |
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Bitcoinflash.io now saying "Account suspended" so I think we can officially call this dead.
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I've started a new NOMP pool mining Universal and Digibyte (SHA-256) with 0% fees as it is still in test mode. But if you want to throw some mining power at it, please visit http://97.97.201.11. I have not found blocks yet so I cannot confirm that payouts are working but I have no reason to believe they wouldn't be working. I have two S9's pointed at it currently, one in each pool...there may be more being pointed at it later today. I am planning on putting a MPOS front end on this pool, and maybe moving it to a data center that we run at my office if things go well. Since it's NOMP, there is no signup; just put your payment address as your user name with any password. If you don't use a valid address, the pool will reject your connection. Mining settings: stratum+tcp://97.97.201.11:8333 (Universal) stratum+tcp://97.97.201.11:8334 (Digibyte) Appreciate any hashing power--happy mining! Well, that was a waste of many, many hours. It turns out that NOMP will not pay either of those currencies. I am not very skilled at node.js, so I really don't have the time to attempt to fix the source code (I do actually understand why it's failing in both cases). Fortunately, there was only one other miner on the pool, and I manually calculated and made the payout based on the log of all submitted shares (I wrote code to parse the log files). Pool is closed! |
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Unfortunately, NOMP does not appear to be making payments. The pool did find a block while one additional miner was mining at P8xxx5UmtEyFEfqoCcjeRUy3NAGyMXXxSX, with a hash rate of about 4.5 TH, so I've manually paid 4.5/31.5=0.143 to that address...
Thanks P8xxx5UmtEyFEfqoCcjeRUy3NAGyMXXxSX, whoever you are!
I’m bad at math. Payment should be 5 times the above...will pay the rest when I can. Had to close the pool. NOMP will not make payments for UNIT, since the daemon does not report transaction details, which NOMP requires to make payments. P8xxx, I've made the final payment of 3.75 UNIT. Thanks for the help. |
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anyone else having problems finding transactions/wallets on the main blockchain website? ( https://explorer.u-currency.com/) I cannot find many recent transactions at all? even after they confirm on my wallet... Confirmed. It is behaving very oddly--I can look up an address and not see all of the transactions, but when I find the actual block and pull up the txid, then the transaction will show up when I go back to the address. Something definitely broken there... |
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Unfortunately, NOMP does not appear to be making payments. The pool did find a block while one additional miner was mining at P8xxx5UmtEyFEfqoCcjeRUy3NAGyMXXxSX, with a hash rate of about 4.5 TH, so I've manually paid 4.5/31.5=0.143 to that address...
Thanks P8xxx5UmtEyFEfqoCcjeRUy3NAGyMXXxSX, whoever you are!
I’m bad at math. Payment should be 5 times the above...will pay the rest when I can. |
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I've started a new NOMP pool mining Universal and Digibyte (SHA-256) with 0% fees as it is still in test mode. But if you want to throw some mining power at it, please visit http://97.97.201.11. I have not found blocks yet so I cannot confirm that payouts are working but I have no reason to believe they wouldn't be working. I have two S9's pointed at it currently, one in each pool...there may be more being pointed at it later today. I am planning on putting a MPOS front end on this pool, and maybe moving it to a data center that we run at my office if things go well. Since it's NOMP, there is no signup; just put your payment address as your user name with any password. If you don't use a valid address, the pool will reject your connection. Mining settings: stratum+tcp://97.97.201.11:8333 (Universal) stratum+tcp://97.97.201.11:8334 (Digibyte) Appreciate any hashing power--happy mining! Unfortunately, NOMP does not appear to be making payments. The pool did find a block while one additional miner was mining at P8xxx5UmtEyFEfqoCcjeRUy3NAGyMXXxSX, with a hash rate of about 4.5 TH, so I've manually paid 4.5/31.5=0.143 to that address (I had both my S9s working on this coin @ 13.5 each). I've shut down the pool until I can get MPOS working that should handle payments better and provide a better front end for miners. Will repost when the new & (hopefully) improved pool is running. Thanks P8xxx5UmtEyFEfqoCcjeRUy3NAGyMXXxSX, whoever you are! |
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