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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: March 17, 2022, 09:55:35 PM
Today Electra has reached its 5th year since launch. Long may the project last!
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: September 07, 2021, 06:48:58 AM
Hey Everyone,

I was just checking up on the status of the project, its been a while because last year 2020 was pretty intense and I did not have time to follow the community or updates.

Well my mind is blown, to read about the devs starting a new coin and the planned feature rollout for ECA going to ECAP.  And all of the market and liquidity moving to ECAP from ECA.

I've invested almost thousand dollars and spent at least a hundred hours, and also staked and supported on reddit. So where does that leave me as an investor?

And where does that leave the electra project? this one is rhetorical, it's obvious the electra project is not growing or evolving for now.

ECP Air drops? A 10 day period? to claim an air drop in one of the most tumultuous times in recent human history? I never received an email or notification, and did not even come across this information or an ad, even in crypto news or on reddit until today.

I've read most of this thread, and twitter on the topic today.

I read about Electra01 the founder and the Dev's, now ECP Dev's, conflict and ultimately parting of ways.

It really seems unfair, for those that supported the community and for the loss on investment and time.

I have obviously lost some on exchanges, but I have my main ECA wallet with about 1,200,000+ eca. It used to be worth almost a thousand now only $27.

I think of, all the things the electra dev team promised and it instead being added to ECAP and then shirking long time eca holders and community is just as bad as any of the claims against Electra01 I've read.

Surely the dev's must of have known that people would not be aware and I hardly think sufficient notice was given or an opportunity to decide, instead a decision was made for us, at our, and my expense.

So my next question is when is the next airdrop? and if not, is the ECP team in the states meaning United States jurisdiction?

Secondly who owns Electra blockchain and branding?

-Digs




To answer some of your questions,

The current Electra blockchain is owned by no one. I own the Github page but the code there is open and can be copied/forked but only I can edit the code on that page. At this stage, for someone else to change the blockchain code they would have to copy the code from my Github to their own page, make all the changes they want there and then release a seperate wallet and users to download. Even then, they would have to convince the exchanges, users and CMC that it is a legitimate ECA fork. If they cannot convince them it will most likely not replace the current wallet version.

No one owns the naming or branding rights and I do not think the ECAP fork could have been stopped if someone did own the rights.

I do not think ECAP is in USA jurisdiction. I think one team member has USA citizenship but that is it.

I do know that the ECAP team accepted late entries after the 10 day period. I suggest you tell them your situation, try to convince them and claim the airdrop you missed out on whilst showing evidence that you held ECA during the fork date. Sparing 1 million is not much from the 3 billion ECAP they control but they may not accept simply to not encourage more claimants. That part is their decision.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: March 17, 2021, 10:06:41 AM
It was a good read and well written. Great summary of Electra’s history!

There is one paragraph I would like to argue against:
“During the time of the Bonanza and the time when the Blockchain remained stuck, Electra01 was publicly claiming that Electra was now worth more than BTC, because he demanded that the high price from the time when there were only 45 coins would now be multiplied with those 19 Billion coins that could not hit the market due to being unconfirmed and stuck on a not moving chain… He mostly complained about Coinmarketcap, that according to his claim, had unfairly failed to update the circulation supply. Thus, the hope to create huge attention, failed.”

I agree that when the blockchain was frozen, the coins should not be considered circulating supply. However, when the blockchain began moving again and bonanza mined coins entered the exchanges, there was a small instant, maybe 1-10 minutes, where they WERE circulating supply and the market cap was high.

I disagree that I mostly complained about Coinmarketcap during that time though I do remember being salty. I was mostly working on finding a solution or someone experienced to help get the blockchain moving again. If the developer of Bumbacoin, who I had reached out to, did not lend assistance back then, the Electra blockchain may have never got going again.

The mining pool had 200-300 people mining during the bonanza which from my view was very good attention for a new coin and kickstarted a small community.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: March 17, 2021, 09:01:04 AM
Today marks Electra’s 4th year. To last throughout the volatile market conditions in between a 4 year Bitcoin halving cycle is a symbolic achievement for any cryptocurrency.  Despite setbacks, I am glad to see an active daily trade volume and 30 running nodes which is a healthy sign. I am thankful for certain people who stepped up and contributed to the continuation of Electra. Whether it was for social media or technical support, these efforts have been greatly helpful to our users. A lot of external features have/are being rebuilt and will hopefully make Electra a force to reckoned with by the end of the year.

I noticed the anniversary a few days ago - and actually prepared an - somewhat critical - Birthday toast - hoping that it's not becoming an obituary...(to be published later today)

I am, however, a bit puzzled what you are talking about when you state "are being rebuilt" - and even more how they could make "Electra a force to be reckoned"

Features are basically the block explorer, Discord channel and website. I say hopefully be a force. Not definitely or guaranteed. I apologize if there was a misunderstanding.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: March 17, 2021, 08:10:07 AM
Today marks Electra’s 4th year. To last throughout the volatile market conditions in between a 4 year Bitcoin halving cycle is a symbolic achievement for any cryptocurrency.  Despite setbacks, I am glad to see an active daily trade volume and 30 running nodes which is a healthy sign. I am thankful for certain people who stepped up and contributed to the continuation of Electra. Whether it was for social media or technical support, these efforts have been greatly helpful to our users. A lot of external features have/are being rebuilt and will hopefully make Electra a force to reckoned with by the end of the year.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: March 01, 2021, 08:46:51 AM
Dear Stakeholders,

A professor from The New School is writing a paper regarding Electra and other cryptocurrencies. If you have the time, it would be of great benefit to his research if you fill out the survey below and will give you a chance to understand the Electra userbase in more detail when results are published:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Vjn2cLNVo-bzfgO1sK72BBKJ_hAdeJjEfshUQlmI05I/edit
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: February 10, 2021, 11:03:14 PM
Attention for Electra-mobile-wallet holders

I was finally able to adapt the Tool to extract the private-keys from your Electra-Mobile wallet, the following links just leads to the Manual first (please read) https://drive.google.com/file/d/11o8RRiAwg9-Aekt8Tfq_f6ErGjIKszEN/view?usp=sharing

Thanks for this. I will add the link to the OP for future reference and credit you. You have single handedly saved many people's ECA's.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: January 31, 2021, 03:59:40 PM
An Electra user has informed me that they have opened a Discord channel for Electra and anyone is welcome to join:

https://discord.gg/PN3GeBEc
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: January 30, 2021, 12:16:53 AM
Had to find this old account of mine first which took me hours... gosh it's been a long time since posting here.

EC01, what's the plan for (the original) Electra from here. Let me know if you need some help, I worked briefly on the ECA project before I quit since the team had actually no idea of what they're doing or trying to achieve. XEP is build to be an exit scam. Anyone who believes that the XEP airdrop covered almost 90% of the ECA circulation, e.g. that those wallets are all genuine user wallets ... common. 90%, seriously? Just have a look in the XEP discord and you'll see daily people mentioning how they've missed the airdrop. Do the math. 10 day window, 90% of ECA's circulation - no way.

I am however very interested sticking with the original ECA project and be part of a team [of normal people]. EC01, let me know how to get in touch.

G.

As the blockchain is still running and Electra is listed on exchanges, the product itself does not need a revival. So on that side we are fine. What we did take a hit on is the loss of social media and communication platforms as they no longer represent Electra but XEP instead. Reviving the social media in some form would help with marketing, attracting new investors and result in better communication among current Electra stakeholders.

I have been writing to Coinmarketcap to make them update Electra's page as most pages there are now obsolete and also misleading for new and current investors.

I was contacted by someone interested in re-publishing the mobile wallets with new seed nodes to unfreeze certain user funds but haven't heard from them again in 20+ days so this is also an area that could make you a hero for most people who have their funds stuck there.

Code-wise there are some changes I think would be good but I do not think it is the right time to make them since there are many people who have funds stuck in exchanges and mobile wallets that I believe attending to is a higher priority.

So solving Coinmarketcap, re-publishing mobile wallets (or ensuring these users get their funds out) and the creation of a social media page with many followers are the most pressing issues in my opinon. I do not have time to manage multiple social media pages solo so that would be a something I could get help on.

PM me on Bitcointalk to get my attention if you wish to get in touch.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: January 23, 2021, 04:23:48 PM
ANNOUNCEMENTS/COMMENTS/THOUGHTS/REVIEW


I have tried to convince the Electra foundation to stay open for now and all ECA funds are still there ready for anyone from the ECA community to control if they apply as board members. Any user interested in applying to the foundation is welcome to and will have to travel to the Netherlands to complete the process. I will aim to keep it open until around August but how long it stays open also depends on the mercy of the former board members.


As I have written many times before, Electra is a decentralized project. This has benefits but also consequences. The “Electra project” Github page was owned by members of the current XEP/former ECA team. I found out today that the page including all source code, wallets, and whitepaper have been deleted. Luckily, I anticipated this risk and migrated/backed-up all of this to the former original Electra Github page a few weeks ago. The OP in this thread contains all updated links for the wallets, source code and whitepaper. CMC links will be updated in the coming days. I have also been forced to hastily create a new website as the old one also belongs to a former team member who has decided to delete all content on the website (I was warned about that beforehand at least). The new Electra website is humble but does the job and is safer than a conventional website: electracore.weebly.com


I condemn these hostile moves by the XEP team (even though there ARE also certain people in the XEP team I consider decent and have no issues who are always welcome back in ECA). The pages were deleted without informing me and had I not backed these up, ECA would have been dead and everyone’s holdings doomed. This is one of the lowest acts I have seen in the cryptocurrency sector. They need to remember that a lot of people who got the XEP airdrop also still own ECA and attempts to sabotage ECA hurts both XEP (their own community) and ECA holders. The XEP team has again demonstrated publically that they use the word “community” for marketing only and not in actuality. They are willing to damage and destroy the holdings of multiple communities and users for negative feelings they harbor for one person. That Github page was maintenance free so to take the effort to log in there and delete it is not a cost-saving act but a malicious one. I have never in my life seen people delete source code to sabotage all holders of a specific coin. As said in the previous paragraph, I luckily backed it up and released it in the OP.


I have looked at the XEP block explorer and block 1 and have strong opinions on the distribution method and invite everyone to look at it also and do their own due diligence. If you want to invest in/HODL a coin where certain/all team members have a track record of abandoning projects/investors, losing users’ funds, lying,  blackmail, deleting source code, wallets and critical users’ comments, then XEP is a good choice. XEP was 100% pre-mined and has more pre-mine and total supply than ECA ever had. All pre-mine is again controlled by one person who is also currently deciding who gets an airdrop and who doesn’t. I believe everyone who applied will get the airdrop but there is also a risk certain team members will get a lot more XEP than their original ECA holdings because it will be easy to mask. It depends on how the person in charge of the 27,000,000,000 XEP distributes it. I suggest all to watch that number closely as it is an intimidating amount. After the 27,000,000,000, there is also an additional 3 billion pre-mine that is held by one person and it is already fully mined. On the XEP rich list it says it will come in 2022, 2023 etc. but it is already out and ready to use. After the airdrop is distributed, assuming the unclaimed amount is burned accurately, I estimate their pre-mine will account for approximately 25%+ of the total supply. This whole ECA/XEP drama began over 200,000,000 ECA and the “ethical” solution the team has offered is 3,000,000,000 pre-mined XEP + a 27 billion pre-mine that can be airdropped/distributed manually however THEY want. Congratulations to everyone who will get the airdrop, you will make money wherever the price goes because you had no entry cost.  I won’t go as far as speculating on my predicted price but I would rather bet on a horse race than buy XEP at the IEO price.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: January 23, 2021, 04:29:52 AM
Hello again
In syntax from here:
https://learn.electraprotocol.com/docs/paper_import/

importprivkey Qq............................. "labelofAddress"

What can write at "labelofAddress" ?
If put XXXXXX for example

Return error

Error: Please enter the wallet passphrase with walletpassphrase first. (code -13)

Probably I write something wrong ?
Thanks

Hello mate,

The solution here should solve your passphrase issue:
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/5941/how-do-i-import-a-private-key-into-bitcoin-core

Let me know the result. Also many thanks to GoodHabit for helping out.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: January 14, 2021, 08:13:36 PM
Is ECA dead deep in the abyss ?
No one to tell some little hope about it   Huh

Well - as long as nobody is going to pick up the project, it can't go far... the Team that was formed out of a supporting community has left to a new coin called electra protocol with the ticker XEP

The original founder was not very active for a long time

So - who is going to go forward with it... without active people - no way to the moon.., Sad

In my experience, for an altcoin to truly die or be close to death one of the following must happen:
1)   No one mining/staking so the blockchain stops.
2)   Consistently 0 USD daily volume or getting delisted from all exchanges/Coinmarketcap.
3)   A big error in the code that no one bothers to fix.
4)   Cease and desist orders from the USA targeting a specific altcoin.
5)   Source code and wallet downloads becoming inaccessible to users.

As long as these do not happen the project will be alive. The first year Electra was founded we came close to 1, 2 and 3 but remained alive nonetheless and on top of that, for reasons still unknown to me, pumped 500x in a month. Some people consider code updates necessary for the survival of a coin but there are successful coins out there like Dogecoin that do not update the code frequently. Electra’s code is unique among altcoins due to the consensus mechanism that does not exist in any other project.

Bear in mind, competition is much fiercer. When Electra was created there were around 700 coins and now there are 10,000+. Many with 10,000,000 USD+ budgets! Time will tell how Electra will fare. For me Electra is in the same league as Blackcoin, Peercoin, Litecoin, Maxcoin, Icebergcoin and Boolberry etc. The league of 2nd generation Bitcoin based altcoins with one or more unique features. Some have obviously fared better than others.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: December 07, 2020, 07:21:01 PM
Dear Stakeholders,

As block explorers hosted by Jenova will close soon I have had a new one made to ensure a better transition.

https://eca.ccore.online/connections


A new website is also in the pipeline.

I also reject all accusations made against me repetitively by the same 3 people and hope Robert McCall sends me 5,000,000 ECA he has promised in the post above. I am sure he is aware of my addresses.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CryptoCore Explorer - advanced Block Explorer for Bitcoin forked coins. on: December 07, 2020, 07:08:11 PM
Recently did business. Great service. Fast response. Would definitely recommend for other cryptocurrencies that are looking for a quality block explorer. All APIs required for CMC were included.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: December 02, 2020, 01:37:59 PM
VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

Dear Stakeholders,

The servers controlled by former team member Jenova contain the seed nodes for Ellipal, the mobile wallets and support ElectraPay and all third-party wallets. They will be SHUT DOWN PERMENANTLY in a few days/hours (I have not been given a specific date as of yet) which means ECA in mobile wallets and Ellipal will FREEZE unless you convince him to re-open the servers for you. He did kindly offer to keep servers running for 0.2 BTC/month but I have concluded that 2.4 BTC/year would be an unsustainable cost for the ECA project and therefore service for Ellipal, mobile wallets, ElectraPay and all third-party wallets will be discontinued the moment servers are cut. Desktop and exchange wallets WILL still function as far as I am told by Jenova.

He is generously keeping the servers open for the time being so users do not have their ECA frozen but I recommend you to WITHDRAW your ECA to a desktop or an exchange wallet AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. After server support is cut DO NOT send any ECA to Ellipal or mobile wallets. Desktop and exchange wallets will be the best places to keep your ECA at this point.

What remains is the block explorer and website. I will continue them but I am deciding whether to maintain the current ones on Jenova’s servers or create new ones to host personally. You will be informed further as soon as I decide.

Please SHARE this message with as many users as possible. I will also ask the ECAP team to share this and hopefully they will. I want all ECA holders to read this message. I do not want anyone left behind. Therefore, the Bitcointalk thread will be locked for the next 3 days to ensure as many people see this message as possible without the clutter of additional messages. If you have any queries PM me in Bitcointalk and I will get back to you.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: December 01, 2020, 08:25:07 PM
The team and the devs migrate everything that was planned to ECAP, so no electrapay for ECA but just for ECAP.

Regarding your roadmap, it's interesting because you haven't done anything since 2017. And if this roadmap has no other objectives which will be added in the future we can consider the ECA as dead.

If you want to escape after finishing your roadmap you could have participated more actively with motivated and passionate devs instead of selling and being quiet and doing nothing.

I will not stop repeating my last message until I have an answer (3rd time) =

why do you say that the stakes of the premine do not belong to the premine (and therefore to the foundation) when you said you should cover $ 1000 in 2017? and only need 100 million at this price (2017 price lol)  so why did you sell 700 million stakes for your personal account?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848351.msg21138302#msg21138302




I get your point and now understand where the issue is stemming from. The first sentence is poorly worded. The word capital is very general. It is wrong to assume only financial capital. Other capital types that may apply are: individual capital and intellectual capital along with others.

Investment also has multiple definitions:
The action or process of investing money for profit.
An act of devoting time, effort, or energy to a particular undertaking with the expectation of a worthwhile result.

I invested a lot of my individual, financial and intellectual capital into the project for the past four years. The stakes compensate me for this.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: December 01, 2020, 04:05:35 PM
So it seems like little progress is being made with regards to making things right for the investors. This feud between the two sides has left many investors with nothing and a project that has been stolen away from them. To claim that this other project is "new" is laughable, it is literally everything that ECA was and promised to be. It is simply a slight rebranding with everything else being the same.

There are options available to make the situation right and they know it, it is simply a matter of taking action.

The other side is welcome back anytime, but at this stage, from the attitude they are showing, I assume they will continue with ECAP and therefore I must ensure ECA is prepared for the transition which I anticipate will be smooth. The current ECA stakeholders should assume that the upgrade to v3.0 will not go ahead for ECA as it is now intellectual property of ECAP and so ECA will remain on the current chain. Investors should also assume that ElectraPay, which was an initiative of the former team, will not be supported for ECA in the near future unless an agreement is reached with the ECAP team.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: December 01, 2020, 12:56:11 AM

If the foundation is dissolved and funds returned to me, then the project will go back to the initial objectives listed in the OP.

Premine is for the project, stakes are not. If ECAP hadn't come about this would have still been the case.



It looks like the foundation will be dissolved and you as the founder will get the premine back if no new members are found.
https://twitter.com/ECA_Foundation/status/1333155433662590981?s=20

You say ECA will stick to the old goals.

Who will take care of the project?
Who will develop further?
Who will pay for and maintain the infrastructure?

I ask for a transparent contribution or you come online in Telegram / Discord to talk to the community in real time.

Forking Electra was a big priority. If the current code was hidden from me, the project would have died for sure.

I will pay for the new critical infrastructure if needed.

My initial objectives are almost finished. When they are, I will not have additional goals.

If new replacements are chosen in the foundation, I will very likely accept that they stay in charge of the funds. If the foundation is dissolved, I will use the funds to pay for the new infrasructure and complete the objectives. If any funds remain after the objectives are complete I will give a grace period of 6 months for a new foundation to be set up and if a new foundation is not set up I will assume the users are not interested to take the project further and will donate the rest of the pre-mine to charity and provide evidence of it.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: November 29, 2020, 04:35:57 PM
E01 - let's assume the following scenario:

The foundation decides to give up the project and is dissolved. The funds held will be returned to you (the creator of the project).
What happens after that??
Will you lead the project as creators or do we have to assume that the project will be buried.
Please answer the question explicitly.

As we know, you acted out of premonition and sold Premine-Stake funds before anything happened.
Please state what happens to the currency you received for the sale?

What would happen to it if ECAP hadn't come about?

Funds returning to me from the foundation is unlikely.

Article   11   –   Dissolution

2.   After   dissolution,   the   foundation   will   remain   until   the   financial   balance   is   0.

5.   If   the   foundation   has   a   surplus   on   the   financial   balance,   the   remaining   finances   must   be   spent   on   the   sustainability   of   the   foundation   where   possible.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: November 29, 2020, 03:18:03 PM
E01 - let's assume the following scenario:

The foundation decides to give up the project and is dissolved. The funds held will be returned to you (the creator of the project).
What happens after that??
Will you lead the project as creators or do we have to assume that the project will be buried.
Please answer the question explicitly.

As we know, you acted out of premonition and sold Premine-Stake funds before anything happened.
Please state what happens to the currency you received for the sale?

What would happen to it if ECAP hadn't come about?

If the foundation is dissolved and funds returned to me, then the project will go back to the initial objectives listed in the OP.

Premine is for the project, stakes are not. If ECAP hadn't come about this would have still been the case.

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