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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MID]MidasCoin|New Scrypt PoM|Backed Value|ATM card|Referral|NO IPO|UNIQUE
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on: September 09, 2014, 11:44:05 PM
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Even faking the first post, you can't do better?
 You know, I had a run-in with another scamcoin developer. Your lack of comprehension, and inability to actually answer questions, makes me think that you're one and the same. I can not mine coins without mining through that pool. There is only one central pool. It is centralized. There is only one central place to mine coins. Can I phrase this in any other way? They're dead, Dave. Dave, they're dead. Dead they are, Dave. OK, here's the simple way to figure out who's right: How do I mine coins WITHOUT going through the 'main pool'? |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof of dishonesty and lies from Gawminers.com Hashlet Ponzi Scheme Scam
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on: August 21, 2014, 08:44:41 PM
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Have you ever wondered why GAW don't allow us to choose our own worker ID?
How come different pools generate exactly the same return curves?
That's kind of a smoking gun right there. You mean to say that they host miners, but don't let you mine where you want to mine? (I don't have any link to GAW at all. I was just keeping abreast of the latest in scam when I came across this thread) Hrm. I just had a PM from 'GAW Miners_CEO'. It said: "The reason we dont allow folks to put in their own pool is to follow our uptime commitment. The number one issue that we deal with on our hosting platform, that does allow for their own pools, is folks putting in the wrong pool info. This then creates down time, that the customer (often) blames us for" Screenshot, with mouseover the User ID  This makes me even MORE suspicious. Because, according to the OP, their hosting platform does NOT allow people to enter their own pools, or change the account. Either way, I can't see why, even if they DID have a whitelist of known good pools, they wouldn't allow people to mine to their own accounts on the known good pools. Which is it OP? |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof of dishonesty and lies from Gawminers.com Hashlet Ponzi Scheme Scam
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on: August 21, 2014, 07:50:56 PM
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There is no proof of anything you've said, multiple, multiple times.
Uh, actually, I think the important thing is here: Have you ever wondered why GAW don't allow us to choose our own worker ID?
How come different pools generate exactly the same return curves?
That's kind of a smoking gun right there. You mean to say that they host miners, but don't let you mine where you want to mine? (I don't have any link to GAW at all. I was just keeping abreast of the latest in scam when I came across this thread) |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unattanium: Broken by design. (Status: Proven broken)
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on: August 14, 2014, 10:47:57 PM
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In fact You mined exacly 18.87% (10 blocks You found / 53 found during Your "attack")
I mined 18.87% of the chain that won. I stopped mining, because I believed my point had been proven. There were three fights for control of the chain. I won 3, and lost 2, I believe. After I provided a clear and undeniable proof, You still speak of a successfull attack.
Well, I was hoping to try to clarify what EXACTLY the definition of a successful attack is, with the developer. But, he was not interested in facts, just hand waving 'pay no attention to the man behind the curtain' when I tried to nail stuff down. See logs pasted earlier. So, I got to define what a successful attack was. No-one's laughed at me, apart from the unat co-scammers, so I think that's pretty much a success. Now everyone's alarm bells should ring, since we know, it's impossible to attack a block chain with obtaining just 18.87% of the blocks!
OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD This is EXACTLY MY POINT. Are you NOT PAYING ATTENTION? SERIOUSLY? I controlled the chain, with 18.7% of the blocks found. Most of it is true
Well, that at least we are in agreement on. (he copy pasted most parts) No. Now that's an out and out lie. I wrote it. 100%. Myself. I quoted two things, which I highlited, indented, and cited. This has been accused of me several times, without proof. And I know that it's not provable because I wrote it myself. I'm skipping bits here, because you're ranting off about things that aren't really relevant. the explorer only shows blocks that made it to the longest chain Well, this shows You don't even know the basics how coins work. This is probably the most exposing statement You made, since You brought FUD to Unattainium. Oh, really? I'd love for you to prove that - link to an orphaned block in the block explorer. Here, here's a little place for you to link to it: I'm skipping a pile of other stuff, because it's all dependent on this fallacy. Feel free to prove yourself right, and I'll address them all, but, as I know you can't, the rest of it is rubbish. E. g. he asked the dev about 10 times, if he's allowed to attack Unattainium and if dev "fixes" the coin in case he's successful. Dev agreed about 5 times. Then he stopped communication for obvious reasons. ('He' is referring to the Dev in this context) No. I asked the dev, specifically, if he will increase the block time, if I proved it was insecure. He refused to answer that. He vaguely answered that he will fix 'problems'. He has, however, been adamant that he will never change the block time. That's why I wanted him to answer that. But all the FUD mentioned above is nothing what pisses me off that much. What pisses me off is this:This is all a plan to rip off exchanges Is there any other reason you can provide for continuing to hype a provably broken coin? Let's take a step back. If we take your view that my attack (which was attack 2) didn't work, and is infeasible, then the coin is still broken for many other reasons. (Attack 1, Attack 3, Difficulty heterodyne, and Oracle are the four that jump immediately to mind). In other words: He says the developer of Unattainium is a criminal planing a double spend attack! WOW!!
If I were the dev, I'd think about a legal action against Rob Thomas now.
Yep. That's what I'm saying. Here, let me clarify: I believe the dev of Unattainium is planning to steal coins, money, or other valuables, from people. Is that clear enough for you? Would you like me to write it down and take a photo of me holding it? I'm quite happy to stand up and be visible. I don't skulk around in the shadows and steal from people. This is the shit Unattainium has do deal with lately, but Rob, don't You think You went a bit too far?
Well. If you look like shit, smell like shit, and act like shit, you're going to have to expect people to assume you are shit. And so far, the coin and the dev has proven itself to be exactly that. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unattanium: Broken by design. (Status: Proven broken)
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on: August 14, 2014, 09:33:23 PM
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I gotta say...he's actually been way more pleasant than a lot of you assholes have been to him. I've seen him called stupid, a liar, a cheat, and many others all week Thanks. I provide proof, clearly written statements, and facts, and trolls hurl random accusations at me. Because ad-hominem attacks are so much easier than actually refuting valid evidence. As I said RIGHT BACK AT THE START. I was interested to see what would happen with this coin, to see what would happen in a real world test of such a short block time. The real world test has happened, the coin is massively insecure, and it will be attacked. I'm not even running an unat coind any more, as I don't want to be accused of orchestrating the attacks, when they happen. Someone will steal a few BTC, people will throw their hands up in the air about developers who don't know what their doing, and a couple of exchanges will quietly re-evaluate their criteria for adding a coin. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unattanium: Broken by design. (Status: Proven broken)
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on: August 14, 2014, 05:29:20 AM
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Oh my god. I've just realised why he's so adamant about remaining anonymous.
This is all a plan to rip off exchanges
It's the only thing that makes sense. The flat-out refusal to fix the gaping hole. The pumping of prices. This mythical 'hardware store' that he's setting up (well, he's not, he copied and pasted some stuff from the bitmain website, last time I looked).
I can only guess that his plan is to get some capital into an exchange, then run attack 3 in the background, withdraw BTC and let the coin collapse. If he's smart, he'll do it on a couple of exchanges simultaneously. (Which means he probably won't)
That's the only thing I can think of. There's no other sane reason, is there?
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unattanium: Broken by design. (Status: Proven broken)
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on: August 14, 2014, 05:21:52 AM
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I tried to warn you to only post your results when you were satisfied people wouldn't make fun of you...
And yet, no-one has. Whilst Unat has been laughed at by lots of people. I really don't know why you're posting in this thread. It's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that your scamcoin is broken, and you've been lying about pretty much everything. All that happens when you comment on this thread, is that it gets bumped right back up the top for other people to learn how bad it is. And you still refuse to admit you made a mistake. Well. You've made lots of mistakes, but this is only about one. Shall we move onto another one? Oh, and yet, when I make a mistake, I'm the first one to admit it. A slight error in attack 2 doesn't mean 1 or 3 is any less viable, nor does it mean that 2 is impractical. It just means that it would require a small amount of scripting to do, rather than just turning off the block notifier. I could, of course, design some more attacks, if you want. But here's the thing - no matter what I do, you will shut your eyes, put your hands over your ears, and go LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING. You'll claim I cheated. I used too much. I used too little. That the blockchain was broken for some other reason at the time. That what I said would happen didn't happen, because it was subtly different from what I predicted. You lie. Incessantly. Look, just go away and curl up with your other scammers, and and scam your little scam coin until everyone else gives up on it. I've given up on it. Almost everyone else has given up on it. It's just the few poor people who haven't realised how much of a liar you are that are hanging on to some unat in the hope of a miracle. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SSD] SonicScrewdriver [PoW/PoS] Sha256.[Tor Included]BITTREX CCEX and Bleutrade
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on: August 13, 2014, 10:44:20 PM
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If my coins are still on Bittrex (haven't moved them yet) will it show up as it's own address or be lumped in with exchange addresses...because I don't see my amount number on there...
If they're at bittrex, they are not on your own account. Also, as another downside for keeping them in an exchange, is the exchange will be earning PoS blocks, and not you. Buy, move to local wallet, repeat. Also, if your local wallet isn't running, you will not earn PoS shares, either. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unattanium: Broken by design. (Status: Proven broken)
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on: August 13, 2014, 06:55:38 PM
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in main.cpp it accumulates the values of GetBlockWork() in order to get the work of a chain, and uses nChainWork to select the best chain, so it's not the longest. Ahha. That makes more sense - I knew that was the idea but I didn't pick that up in the code. (I'm not that good a C++ programmer!) So I think the way to exploit the wacky difficulty ajustments is to take advantage at the time when blocks are comming faster than 8 secs, because that's when the most network hashrate is wasted (orphaned) and you can do your attack with much less than 50%.
My hypothesis is that it's easier do an attack when the difficulty is unusually high. Am I wrong in the assumption that it's easier to find 10 x 10k shares than 1 x 100k share? Or is it equally likely? If the blockchain is stalled for a few minutes because the difficulty is stuck up over 1M, I should be able to roll back the chain to before those series of lucky blocks (lets say 30 blocks, 2 minutes) create a much longer chain of lower difficulty, and hopefully my cumulative difficulty .. say 80*50k for the rollback, and then another 80*50k would give me a difficulty of ~4M head start. This is a different way of looking at the second attack, and would probably still be doable, it would just require a bit more work. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unattanium: Broken by design. (Status: Proven broken)
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on: August 13, 2014, 02:26:05 AM
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I agree that the attacks 1 and 3 that you describe are enough to say the coin is insecure, however I'm not sure I understand attack2...
Unat accepts the longest, valid, chain as the 'winner'. Not the one with the highest difficulty. (I may be wrong - I looked at the source for this, and only saw 'longest valid' - I'm, as always, willing to be corrected if I'm wrong, but this is what actually happened in the attack) So, if I can control the block generation time once, that will be enough to control the entire blockchain. Last time I looked, blocks were making their way to the blockchain, on average slower than 8 seconds per block. If I force my attack to only create a block every 8 seconds, no matter what, my chain will be longer than the public chain (because, the public chain will have created a block every AVERAGE amount, whilst I have created a block 100% of the time, 8 seconds apart) This is, in fact, what happened in the attack. I ignored other generated blocks, forced the difficulty down to a very low level, mined along there for a bit, and then stopped. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SSD] SonicScrewdriver [PoW/PoS] Sha256.[Tor Included]CCEX and Bleutrade
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on: August 11, 2014, 08:30:02 PM
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