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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: April 15, 2017, 02:15:45 AM


byteball will be a top10 coin in 1 year.



sorry to post this again.

also maybe better chnage the trading unit to  MB ?
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: April 15, 2017, 02:04:21 AM


this logo is very good.
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: April 15, 2017, 01:12:56 AM
no need force everyone to donate, it just not that cool.

but personally i maybe donate 3% of what i have if i know EK's XEL address.

264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: April 08, 2017, 09:44:58 AM
how to participate masternode?
how many XEL i need to run the masternode

also any big difference with XEL masternode with dash masternode?

thank you very much
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 08, 2017, 09:43:14 AM
seems the forum is more active than bitcointalk

266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: April 08, 2017, 09:40:43 AM
one of the great project in this year.

better than Ethereum
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RLC] iEx.ec blockchain-based distributed cloud announces its Crowdsale on: April 07, 2017, 02:54:22 PM
elastic is much better than golem?

268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 07, 2017, 02:53:28 PM
I still don't understand how this project received 10mil dollars. lol

that's the reason Wink


>Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet?

Ethereum is using an accounts model, like Ripple. Which is anti-blockchain and anti-privacy and very traceable. It is against the philosophy of Bitcoin.

All coins going forward will be on the UXTO model and it is best practice for blockchain. Moving turing complete smart contracts off of accounts model and onto UXTO is extremely important and that is what qtum appears to be doing.

We need to figure out how to do general computation on a UXTO model. Instead of being restrained to the Ripple/Ethereum accounts model.

I think they will get closer to the goal, but only get there part way
- thin client for smart contracts (major limitation for existing system)
- moving smart contracts onto UXTO (major milestone)

I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction. I talked to one of their technical leads and they were focused on "Getting it working with something we can do now" and then incremental improvement over time. So first implementing the Ethereum virtual machine on top of UXTO, then working out the research problems for a native turing complete UXTO language later.

I do not know if there is a way to full UXTO while still having "gas". I think you will need to get rid of the "gas". In the ethereum model to take full advantage. I do not know if qtum will be able to go far enough in doing that, but is heading in the correct direction.

Ethereum tries to be both a token and a computer.
- we started with pure tokens (Bitcoin)
- then we added a computer to the tokens (Ethereum)
- now we just trying to figure out how to build  pure computer on UXTO
- Then once we have the computer, the tokens or coins just become a program or entity running on this "distributed computer"

Bitcoin, Ethereum, qtum, byteballs, etc are just stepping stones. Towards a final solution. None of these will exist or be relevant in ten years. We are in an age of transition and I am looking at the projects that are getting closer to the goal, in a pure mathematical sense.

Even Skycoin is being ripped up and its foundations constantly rewritten when it is advantageous to do so. Bitcoin is static and relatively unchanging, while Ethereum has been able to get the community to accept constant small changes.

Skycoin is on a punctuated equilibrium model, where we do bug fixes and polishing, then completely rip up and rebuild the foundation as needed, then go back to bug fixes and polishing.

Right now, we are exploring new networking primitives and the advantage of immutable data structures, but are still on blockchain. Putting EVM on UXTO is heading towards immutable data structures from the perspective of computation, while we are heading towards immutable data structures from the path of consensus, networking and simplifying object synchronization protocols.

One of the pilots that is being spun out of that project is the distibuted, peer-to-peer social media platform built upon immutable data structures and peer-to-peer object replication. For this Skycoin chose a public key, cryptographic publisher/subscriber model and DAG immutable object tree. While Ethereum's project chose a Kadmelia DHT block storage model.

Ignoring the individuals and the drama, I am just looking at the "future direction" and who is heading in that direction.

>Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet?

I am not confident it will replace Ethereum. At the start, it will be equivalent to ethereum in terms of being able to run the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) on top of qtum with UXTO. Then they will do a native language.

It will depend on the implementation. I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction.

Similarly, Byteballs may fail or may not exist in ten years, but they are pioneering the first experiments into replacing the Blockchain with a DAG. Which we have been considering for several years now.

Similarly, Bitcoin was the first but people are getting used to the idea that it will not be the final or best cryptocurrency. That it was just the first generation and that we can build better and improve it substantially.
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 07, 2017, 02:52:29 PM

- https://qtum.org

Qtum, will probably replace ethereum because it is simpler and has fewer problems. The UXTO model is much cleaner. They have a lot of previous developers and have already done two previous coins and are the best team I have seen so far.


I won't trust dev that promoting qtum-SCAM.....

I have not looked at qtum's code.

We know the qtum founder and he is one of the largest investors in Skycoin from four years ago, before qtum or any of this. Some of the people around him are legendary scammers, but he is not a scammer.

I think Patricks role in the bitbay situation is exaggerated. I read through the arguments and it just sounds like drama.

Many of the people in the Bitcoin community are sociopaths. They often steal things or cause drama, then immediately blame it or scapegoat it on someone else. They are not even done stealing the money, before they go on campaign of moral indignation against the fall person.

I think Patrick was blamed for Bitbay because his personality makes him an easy victim for sociopaths and the human predators in the bitcoin community. There are people walking around, sizing people up and trying to determine whether they can manipulate someone, setup a scam, steal things and who is going to be gullible or a fall person.

If you knew the people involved, you would understand what the social dynamic is.

>Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet?


Ethereum is using an accounts model, like Ripple. Which is anti-blockchain and anti-privacy and very traceable. It is against the philosophy of Bitcoin.

All coins going forward will be on the UXTO model and it is best practice for blockchain. Moving turing complete smart contracts off of accounts model and onto UXTO is extremely important and that is what qtum appears to be doing.

We need to figure out how to do general computation on a UXTO model. Instead of being restrained to the Ripple/Ethereum accounts model.

I think they will get closer to the goal, but only get there part way
- thin client for smart contracts (major limitation for existing system)
- moving smart contracts onto UXTO (major milestone)

I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction. I talked to one of their technical leads and they were focused on "Getting it working with something we can do now" and then incremental improvement over time. So first implementing the Ethereum virtual machine on top of UXTO, then working out the research problems for a native turing complete UXTO language later.

I do not know if there is a way to full UXTO while still having "gas". I think you will need to get rid of the "gas". In the ethereum model to take full advantage. I do not know if qtum will be able to go far enough in doing that, but is heading in the correct direction.

Ethereum tries to be both a token and a computer.
- we started with pure tokens (Bitcoin)
- then we added a computer to the tokens (Ethereum)
- now we just trying to figure out how to build  pure computer on UXTO
- Then once we have the computer, the tokens or coins just become a program or entity running on this "distributed computer"

Bitcoin, Ethereum, qtum, byteballs, etc are just stepping stones. Towards a final solution. None of these will exist or be relevant in ten years. We are in an age of transition and I am looking at the projects that are getting closer to the goal, in a pure mathematical sense.


Even Skycoin is being ripped up and its foundations constantly rewritten when it is advantageous to do so. Bitcoin is static and relatively unchanging, while Ethereum has been able to get the community to accept constant small changes.

Skycoin is on a punctuated equilibrium model, where we do bug fixes and polishing, then completely rip up and rebuild the foundation as needed, then go back to bug fixes and polishing.

Right now, we are exploring new networking primitives and the advantage of immutable data structures, but are still on blockchain. Putting EVM on UXTO is heading towards immutable data structures from the perspective of computation, while we are heading towards immutable data structures from the path of consensus, networking and simplifying object synchronization protocols.

One of the pilots that is being spun out of that project is the distibuted, peer-to-peer social media platform built upon immutable data structures and peer-to-peer object replication. For this Skycoin chose a public key, cryptographic publisher/subscriber model and DAG immutable object tree. While Ethereum's project chose a Kadmelia DHT block storage model.

Ignoring the individuals and the drama, I am just looking at the "future direction" and who is heading in that direction.

>Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet?

I am not confident it will replace Ethereum. At the start, it will be equivalent to ethereum in terms of being able to run the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) on top of qtum with UXTO. Then they will do a native language.

It will depend on the implementation. I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction.

Similarly, Byteballs may fail or may not exist in ten years, but they are pioneering the first experiments into replacing the Blockchain with a DAG. Which we have been considering for several years now.

Similarly, Bitcoin was the first but people are getting used to the idea that it will not be the final or best cryptocurrency. That it was just the first generation and that we can build better and improve it substantially.


so Bitcoin Ethereum Qtum Skycoin and Byteball.

that's the evolution of the blockchain technology.

another advantage of Qtum i think is it's based on proof of stake


Both bitcoin and Ethereum are still POW based.

Skycoin and Byteball and Qtum are very interesting.

one more project, i think it's elastic.

i think skycoin dev missed one point, Qtum is POS based.

Also that's the speech Patrick made on Ethereum DEV Conference in Paris.



http://edcon.io/download.html

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do you have the plan to release a proof of work version Qtum?

since Ethereum will switch to POS by the end of 2017.

then people with a lot of GPU card need to find some new coins to mine

so it will be great if Qtum release a POW version same time ?

how do you guys think ?

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no one answer this Question?

dev?

270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 07, 2017, 02:51:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TucgSvwTDHo

Qtum Mobile Wallet & iMessage Demo





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TucgSvwTDHo






will this support Android version too?

or only IOS version?

thank you



where is dev?

271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 07, 2017, 02:50:45 PM
I see a lot of numbers in there and some signature too but where is the BTC being held, soo many investors can anyone from them confirm their investment in qtum and provide a TX.
https://forum.qtum.org/assets/uploads/files/1491559783644-0002-resized.jpeg
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Matchpool - Making Human Connections - ICO FINISHED IN 33 HOURS!! on: April 07, 2017, 09:34:40 AM
when can i get my matchpool token?

thank you
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: April 07, 2017, 07:36:56 AM


byteball will be a top10 coin in 1 year.

274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: April 07, 2017, 07:20:25 AM
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=GBYTE_BTC

nice to see some exchanges finally.

275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 07, 2017, 06:59:25 AM
https://forum.qtum.org/

Seems Qtum Forum Online now
276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 05, 2017, 03:21:19 AM
I am all in on qtum page devs or team members can you plz share the BTC add on which you have collected or store all the fund .....
The fund is in a black box! It's safe, if you believe in the team.

Yes, believe in the team that said prior to the ICO that they would be transparent, then went silent after the ICO. Remember BFL needing to do pre-sales so that they could build their line of miners because they didn't have the money themselves? Well, guess what? They had $25M+ in their coffer when they were crying that they were broke thanks to ... wait for it ... info provided via the blockchain.

Here's why Qtum won't release any blockchain vitals: Because they're yellow!

also why you are still here?

i think you find a better job now?



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Translated: Go fuck yourself! Obviously, you don't have a motherfuckin clue as to why I'm here so, again, go fuck yourself!

For those not assholes playing at home, let's recap:

Prior to the ICO, Qtum promised full transparency.
After supposedly garnering $15M+, all transparency has been taken off the table after the ICO ended.

For those who are assholes, what part of "you've been fuckin lied to" don't you understand?

you lose your mind, your silly old man. and yes.. you are crazy.
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 05, 2017, 02:34:26 AM
I am all in on qtum page devs or team members can you plz share the BTC add on which you have collected or store all the fund .....
The fund is in a black box! It's safe, if you believe in the team.

Yes, believe in the team that said prior to the ICO that they would be transparent, then went silent after the ICO. Remember BFL needing to do pre-sales so that they could build their line of miners because they didn't have the money themselves? Well, guess what? They had $25M+ in their coffer when they were crying that they were broke thanks to ... wait for it ... info provided via the blockchain.

Here's why Qtum won't release any blockchain vitals: Because they're yellow!

also why you are still here?

i think you find a better job now?

278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: April 05, 2017, 02:33:23 AM
when the ico will end?

The ICO will end in about two or three weeks at the current rate. It is mostly small orders for a few hundred coins, coming in. This is a good way of getting coins to a large number of people.

https://www.c2cx.com/orders

why you choose c2cx ?

never heard about this exchange....

They are not actually an exchange. The exchange is just them exposing their order book to the public. Which is very recent.

They have template code that is over ten years old and predates Bitcoin. So I do not know what their software was doing before Bitcoin existed.

On some days they run about 15% of the global bitcoin trading volume per day. So it is not a small or new exchange. The only thing new about it, is that they are letting people register and add/take liquidity from their order book.

c2cx will be the primary market maker for Skycoin.

>why you choose c2cx ?

We needed to partner with several larger companies, to handle things we did not have the staff or budget to do. The skycoin core tech people are mostly R&D and mathematics.

We had to put bug tracking, bug fixes, payroll, contractors, website, fund raising, exchange listing, customer support, marketing, etc to other companies. So that we could focus on writing new software.

We are using a consortium model. As the best approach we have found for moving the project forward.

thanks for the response.
279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Million USD raised in 90 minutes! [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contracts on: April 05, 2017, 02:14:12 AM
I am all in on qtum page devs or team members can you plz share the BTC add on which you have collected or store all the fund .....
The fund is in a black box! It's safe, if you believe in the team.

Yes, believe in the team that said prior to the ICO that they would be transparent, then went silent after the ICO. Remember BFL needing to do pre-sales so that they could build their line of miners because they didn't have the money themselves? Well, guess what? They had $25M+ in their coffer when they were crying that they were broke thanks to ... wait for it ... info provided via the blockchain.

Here's why Qtum won't release any blockchain vitals: Because they're yellow!

what will happen if they release it?  Smiley
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: April 05, 2017, 02:12:43 AM
this coin have a lot of potentials!

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