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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: February 25, 2014, 11:45:33 AM
Another animation/infographic. Credit to marticps who did a big chunk of it and let me have a go at continuing what he started. Original voiceover plans haven’t come together and I’m out of spare time, so edited like this instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox8ZudP81w0

Weisoq, really nice job you did Cheesy

It's a pity finally there's no voiceover, but I like the final video. Why don't you appear at the credits too?

Cheers
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin Logo Vote - Moderated on: July 07, 2013, 12:15:49 PM
Thanks to everybody!
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin Logo Vote - Moderated on: July 02, 2013, 11:12:15 AM
skull 88: 90 (maybe the D needs some work)
Icoin: 70
grc: 70 (nice but just as bitcoin, as said above)
4  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Concurso Logo 1.5 BTC - Bitcoinear.me on: July 01, 2013, 11:35:49 AM
Hola Narydu,
Gracias por elegirme. Confirmo la recepción de 1btc. Muchas gracias!
Seguimos en contacto
5  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Concurso Logo 1.5 BTC - Bitcoinear.me on: June 27, 2013, 03:22:55 PM
Muchas gracias a todos!

Mi dirección: 1D8PbvnLDrfEC78Q7fbiqxvdm7kML4hiqT
Si quieres hablamos por PM como quieres que desarrolle la idea, aunque este fin de semana estoy de vacaciones y no volveré hasta el lunes.
6  Economy / Services / Re: Web design, Graphic design, 3d Modelling on: June 18, 2013, 08:27:25 PM
Exams done! Looking for some work to do  Wink
7  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Concurso Logo 1.5 BTC - Bitcoinear.me on: June 18, 2013, 09:05:46 AM
Me he animado a hacer otro logo al ver que esto ya tiene más actividad.

8  Economy / Services / Re: Web design, Graphic design, 3d Modelling on: June 15, 2013, 12:58:34 PM
Hi There

I may be interested to get you onboard some of our projects.

We have a mix of web, app and graphics design work.

Ill PM you in the morning.

Best Regards,
Logan @ Quantum Kiwi

Nice, I look forward hearing from you.

How much is the 3d Logos 523 x 602 ?

PM'd
9  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Concurso Logo 1.5 BTC - Bitcoinear.me on: June 14, 2013, 05:38:32 PM
Hey, yo no hablo español, así que voy a poner el texto en "google translate" Asumo lo que digo no tiene sentido perfecto, pero yo quería a por lo menos decir hola en el idioma correcto! (Realmente necesito aprender español!)

Sorry if google translate butchered that. I do need to learn Spanish. And Chinese (in my dreams, right?)

So here's my submission. I tried to combine the concept of "near" and "turning into". Kept it pretty simple, but these designs could easily have detail added/ colors changed.

Hope you guys like my design! espero que les guste mi diseño!



Hey I like a lot these fresh designs! Just the simley seems to be on acid  Grin
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 05:31:27 PM
(Or maybe youtube detects the browser and pushes a version it knows the browser can use?)

Since few months ago that youtube is using HTML5 video on his webpage, and just changes to Flash (less powerful) in case of not supported by the browser (IE8 and behind).
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 09:54:46 AM
3. For example, I'm using Debian wtih Gnash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash) but not Adobe Flash, and I can watch Youtube videos. But not videos on other sites. Apparently most flash video players use some feature which is specific to Adobe Flash and are not compatible with Gnash. However, it is only a problem with player (i.e. a thing which shows buttons and whatnot), not a problem with video format itself.
4. FWIW Gnash uses ffmpeg/avcodec.

EDIT: Oh, it isn't video, it is Flash animation. I've downloaded it and it seems to be work fine with Gnash, so it is open source enough, I guess.

Okay so maybe the problem is the browsers, they claim a plugin is needed to view flash, and they aren't offering any free open source flash viewing tool they just send me to macromedia or adobe or whoever and they say sorry we are not going to be supporting Linux.

So maybe the free open source browser folks just don't know yet that there is a free open source flash viewer they can point people to, or they have not plugged it in yet because so far the commerical/propriery one has not actually stopped support yet they are just saying they are going to.

For youtube I often used to be told by the browser it simply cannot find any plugin at all that can view whatever it was that it thought i needed a plugin to view. I haven't actually run into that lately for some reason but maybe mostly because I got used to not bothering to click on links to youtube.

-MarkM-


Isn't youtube using html5 video too?
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 09:46:11 AM
I think that what doesn't make sense is what markm said. It's strange because I think he should have clear what is open source and what it is not.
Edit: Open source means that I will publish the source files, and allow people to view, edit and create new versions of this source files, despite the software I used to create it is not open source. That's what I have learned.

I am saying flash source code is not suitable for devcoin backing because flash is a proprietary language not a free open language-specification, as far as I know.

If indeed flash is a free open specification that other people besides macromedia or whoever it is has free open source viewers for, even then it is probably not suitable. There were free open source viewers for GIFs but still GIFs don't go in distros.

Can't flash building tools output normal animation formats, whatever they are? (Not animated GIFs, as GIFs are also deprecated...)

-MarkM-


Well I was thinking of making a normal video format, not an animation format... (of course not thinking of GIF at all). About the source code, it'd be a .fla format.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 09:33:03 AM
I agree with you with all you have said, it is rather better to use open source licenses. I will never give my money to companies such as Adobe. At this moment, due to my experience and free time, I can't manage to work with an open source alternative. But this doesn't mean that the work I create will be propietary work.

It is the actual product I am concerned about. A movie that you need a proprietary viewer to view is not suitable, it has to be in a codex that is open source and that has open source viewers avilable to view it.

Even if any open source viewers can view it, the actual media itself, the codex, the file they tell the viewer to display, should be an open source codex/format/type.

People should not need to use flash to see the thing.

-MarkM-
Nice, have you tried with these formats I uploaded few posts ago? You should view them properly (webm or ogv).
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 09:21:45 AM
Open Source Alternatives for 2D Animation:

Synfig
Pencil
Tupi

General Guidance for Alternatives:

http://www.osalt.com/

Lets see:
These alternatives are not as powerful as Flash. But you are right, it'd be better to use one of them. Anyway, I haven't learned that at college and, the most important point is the following:
Being open source does mean that its source code is available for everybody to view, edit and redistribute it. The fact that Adobe Flash is not open source does not mean that the works created with it can't be open source.

If you want to learn how to work with any of these softwares, go ahead. I can't. It should be really nice to do all my design work with open source alternatives, but just I can't: From alias, inventor, catia or solidworks to flash.

EDIT:
I agree with you with all you have said, it is rather better to use open source licenses. I will never give my money to companies such as Adobe. At this moment, due to my experience and free time, I can't manage to work with an open source alternative. But this doesn't mean that the work I create will be propietary work.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 08:58:54 AM
Who is behind devda.ch?

I think it's icoin
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 08:11:44 AM
No no we should let mark have his way and not pay him for his work since that makes more sense.

I think that what doesn't make sense is what markm said. It's strange because I think he should have clear what is open source and what it is not.
Edit: Open source means that I will publish the source files, and allow people to view, edit and create new versions of this source files, despite the software I used to create it is not open source. That's what I have learned.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 07:59:28 AM
Flash is dying fast. I don't bother installing the old versions that do work because already I get warnings that they do not plan to have any new versions work, so I might as well just get used to the fact that flash is just another walled garden I not only do not want anything to do with but also could not have anything to do with even if I wanted to because its that they don't want me in there not that I wouldn't've continued to grudgingly install their stupid proprietary crap from "network effects" unwashed-masses-pressure if they continued to make it actually work.

TL;DR: Flash is not going to be working on Linux going forward, so no one on Linux is likely to bother installing some long out of date version of a proprietary viewer just to view some adumentary...

Surely there must be some free open source animation system by now?

I would even argue that it is totally inappropriate, even undermining of DeVCoin principles, to be using some non open source crap to make our videos. It is a kind of misrepresentation even maybe, or at the least it implies that we too agree that free open source software is unsuitable for use for real world applications such as educational videos...

FOR SURE WE CANNOT PAY BOUNTY ON IT, RIGHT?

The entire content becomes non free-open-source by being unusable without a proprietary viewer???

-MarkM-

Let's see, I've send you a .swf file because it's really light, but of course it won't be the final format file. The other option was to send you a video file from near 1GB, instead of this 24kb file. Flash is the software I use, actionscript is the language I use, but that does not mean that you will need a propietary viewer. I think you did not get what is open source and what is flash. I am not telling that you'll need to have installed Flash in order to see the video. You asked me for a sample of the video and I showed that.

Adobe Flash is just a tool to create a video file. HTML5 animation is not useful for us, because it'd be less supported and it'd last years and years to load a 15' animation. If I make a video file, you just can embed it into your website using .ogg, .mp4 or .webm.

So markm, I think you are a programmer (correct me if wrong). Have you ever worked with designers? All this non open source crap you are talking about is basically the only crap we have to design. It's not wonderful, I know, but it's what we have. It is not about the software we use, but about the content we create. The licenses don't enter at the creation software and tools level, just on the content and creations.

Please don't hesitate to ask any doubt you have, but please don't talk without knowledge of the situation, as a lot of people here in devcoin community does.



On the other side, I think that if I have to be funded by donations the best way to work is to keep uploading all the new versions, in order to let you know where am I and what I am doing, so if you don't like you just have to say it. So, the first sample is the following (cool formats for everybody):
.ogv: https://mega.co.nz/#!Es9QjJAS!NB5pZEt4dWP7BmcDrIeba2UGu2EGVHZujzgnEMqjnfY
.mp4: https://mega.co.nz/#!Rw1xhAwB!GYnGhTr9K4YrEhWl_I6kvgfGLZlrSajxFYCr2rGJs4o
.webm: https://mega.co.nz/#!sll0zKaL!ede6gSVOR26bFyXxGBx0Ph7BagAVr-usz-4usXIUN94

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Marticps I would say just post your own donation address, and we can just send you coins directly. Please specify type that you would prefer btc/ltc/dvc etc.

BTC: 13oSBu1fFzLs157TWJY7bkVSoMab69zKNn
DVC: 1MFKi4r2U89o8w5YSxE4BfcTxmgg6wMpci
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin Moderated on: June 13, 2013, 08:46:26 PM
We are making an explanation video for Devcoin as a whole.
We'll make an animation video with an voice over. (Kinda like this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo )
Do we have a final devcoin logo to use that is voted upon? Or can we push that vote up to now if possible.

Needs Clarification:
  • Marticps does the animation, but needs a script, if someone is proficient at script writing please stand up.
    If someone already started a script who is it so we can mark you down.
  • There is a small bounty available for producing a video, but considering that the rules dont really allow for expanding on it, we are asking for pledged donations for marticps as this is a monumental task and very important step to building up devcoin.
  • There was not a certain date set for the video to be produced, but I am sure the bitcoin education site would like to have it sooner rather than later.
    I am planning on doing the voice over for free for the video.


Any comments please discuss.

Only a few points:
The video should be about 15 minutes. I find it maybe too long.
My skills can't do something as the video jasinlee posted, don't expect that please. I try to do something simple but pretty (https://mega.co.nz/#!Zp8TBCSQ!HsgP-z2rdA3rzy0c28TP20K7b6NOdmgbsb46p4QfHbw (Flash required, I hope fonts are embedded)).
I will do the animation in function of the script. It'd be better to record the off-voice before or to add timing at the script, in order to make the video and the audio fit in a proper way.

Thanks
19  Economy / Services / Re: Web design, Graphic design, 3d Modelling on: June 13, 2013, 07:45:08 PM
I think you do excellent work. You should consider (although it won't utilize your talents fully) trying for jobs in web design. A good designer is the first step in a great web application.

If you can do "by-pixel" work, draw up specs, and communicate well with a dev team, I think you could easily get paid.


Maybe try consulting firms? I don't like to recommend them, as my departure from the company wasn't pleasant, but maybe check out www.surgeforward.com

Matt (the boss) is a little bit of a psycho, but the pay is decent. I'd try to emphasize your web design skills over artistic talent, by the way - Surge doesn't do 3d stuff. Smiley

Thank you very much Smiley
Well, at this moment I am still at college, so I cannot fully dedicate to this, so I am doing little jobs.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin Moderated on: June 13, 2013, 01:42:28 PM
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