if you take a look at this https://www.bustabit.com/license.txtyou will know which site that buy the license from bustabit, and for ethercrash case it seems they buy from bustabit. Thank you for the link. I forgot about that URL. Yes it seems ethercrash did buy a licence. What is confusing though is how the Bustabit and Ethercrash websites seem almost identical down to the layout and even chat plugin. I thought licences were regarding the crash software only so how did ethercrash end up getting a clone of Bustabit? Devans sells the code of old bustabit v1 which had the same design but with Bustabit right now, Devans just took the UI and made it look cleaner. So did Ethercrash, they took the old bustabit look and made it look cleaner, other sites like bitcrash.us ( not recommended playing there ) has the actual exact same design that was use for Bustabit back in the days.
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Op removed all the replies saying that this could be a scam, and how the site template was used to fool people into depositing to that address.
Just a warning.
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I just checked "ethercrash.io"
Is it also owned/operated by the Bustabit/Bustadice team?
Ethercrash is owned by Perch and M1chael, not Devans. Thank you for the reply. I have never heard of those two users before. Ethercrash looks a complete clone of Bustabit. Did they create their site with the intention of making it look like Bustabit? And did they pay the licence fee to use the crash software? Yes, they payed for the license fee and also they are famous among the people who play Bustabit V1, ever since Bustabit removed bonus, people played on ethcrash.io ( now the new site is ethercrash.io with new management ). People wanted the old experience of bustabit back so yeah, it looks like old Bustabit, but they did make some UI designs to distinguish from the rest of the clone sites that run the bustabit v1 code.
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I just checked "ethercrash.io"
Is it also owned/operated by the Bustabit/Bustadice team?
Ethercrash is owned by Perch and M1chael, not Devans.
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Damn it, Every time when i find a method to beat the system, the system learns and beating me back. Very frustrating  Just beat the system using a bonus script, or invest in the house lol.
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This game is so good ,once I started playing it I couldn't stop myself anymore. I always create a new account once my account shows negative profit 🤣 so I couldn't see how much money I have lost in this game 😂.
It's not a good idea to announce that you have more than one account and they could lock it if they caught you because that is against their terms of service which you agreed on during registration. If you have negative profits in your account learn to accept it or ignore it as much as you can if it really bothers you. 6. A User may only have one Account with the Website and shall only use the Website using such single account. It is prohibited for a User to open multiple accounts with the Company. In the event that the Website becomes aware of additional accounts opened by a User, ethercrash.io may close such additional accounts without notice and may confiscate funds held in such additional accounts.
We apply that rule only on max bet abusers who are trying to chase max profit by max betting on multiple accounts. If you are just making a new account to play and have fun normally, it's completely fine. That's weird, so there's exemptions with that stated rules, so as long as players is not trying to win max profit they can create accounts and that's okay to you, the only catch here, when you luckily win big using your new account the owner can apply the rules against you, limiting or freezing your winnings and needs to communicate with the site admin to explain things, maybe you need to clarify this one from your house rules. For sure he do know the risk behind multi-accounting where most gambling sites do have the same rule or tos when it comes to this matter. Once you have won big on your new account then management will really have that verification and once they saw that you do have other accounts then it would be a reason for them to hold those winnings which do really sucks on your part. Nha not really, it never happened and it won't ever happen. It's just a rule to avoid whales max betting on multiple accounts to try hit max profit on lower multipliers and have the game crashing early for everyone. I do agree about making it more specific in our TOS, but at the same time, it would be an infinite list of "possible scenarios". But again, if you have multiple accounts to use multiple scripts and play normally, it's completely fine with us (in fact, we never blocked any account for these behaviors). Hello Perchlorate, fan of your game. I have a question regarding this. Say i’m Running on auto bet, with a low starting bet (<100), and i’d Like to run that automatically on multiple accounts. Would that be allowed or not? If yes, are there any limitations on what i should/shouldn’t do? If not, why? I’d do that as i like gambling and bankroll management, so this would help divide it and so on. Yeah, it's allowed like he said above, it's only not allowed if you are a whale and are making multiple accounts to hit max profit on low multiplers ( thus ruining the experience for lower betters ) I used to run 5-6 accounts on his site everyday, but now I don't. So I don't think you will have any trouble with that.
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Ngl Perch but your site actually looks so nice from when it started from the beginning. The UI looks so clean too.
Also how has the site been doing? Haven't been there in a while.
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Holy fucking shit. I don't ever want to do that again. What an absolute nightmare, I tell you.
Yeah, 100 posts was way too ambitious. But this data will be great for analysis!
I mean 60 posts in one hour isn't bad! That's enough to get you 0.0072 BTC if you had 3 Sr. Member accounts. ( 0.0072 BTC from the YoBit campaign. )
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Well, i just want to welcome you onboard the lending section, as new fellow lender, and wish you the best. Btw nice, simple and comprehensive thread, small font on TOS or i need glasses!  @Batmanvsduecare: Pushing/pressing someone to grand you a loan, doesn't sound/look good and possible will have the opposite outcome. Especially when you admit that you will pay/bribe, in order to meet the lender's requirements... P.S: Sorry for my late "welcome" post...Imo this needs a neutral rating at least for trying to pressure a loan lol, and saying that he could have bought merits to meet the requirements ( it's like account buying/selling )
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I think we're just confused that you are using BTC as collateral to get BTC for a loan. It literally doesn't make any sense if you have BTC already lol.
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This person clearly says he is giving out 0% fee loans to reputed members in order to build his reputation here. This is equivalent to saying OP is risking money, with the only hope that he will earn trust in return, essentially fast-tracking his way to positive ratings which could then put him in a position to recoup any losses with an exit scam. I am not saying this is necessarily the case here, but this type of behavior is certainly suspicious and people should be aware how trust was earned when dealing with people here on the forum. I believe a negative tag was justified, but I have given OP the chance to show me I am wrong. If he does so, the neutral rating will be removed. Grow up, I don't want to expect that comment to be removed from my trust scan as mine wont be removed from yours EVER it's that simple.
The disapproval of cowards is praise to the courageous. I'm sorry for complaining so much but lenders risk no money at all, if collateral is on the table. On top of getting trade and trust feedback. I pointed out that: Everyone is so harsh to you because they've seen new members all the time, come to the forum just to long con a member that sends them more than 0.1 BTC as collateral.
I know what you are saying, so hopefully OP can make a new thread because this thread is already littered with discussion, and maybe do a lending business more competitive instead of doing these free loans.
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For lending escrows are not needed,OP can choose right person to lend amount without getting anything as collateral as a beginner he don't have to complicate it too much.
This can be used as building reputation too because OP is not going to lose any amount by lending to the reputed members but when everything goes fine OP will get feedback which is trust.
The thing is, people get reputation for lending out or doing deals on the forum all the time. How is this buying trust? Is all lending businesses in this section buying trust then, just to build up their reputation? Is people trading goods buying trust because they are using money to buy goods and in exchange getting feedback and trust? See this doesn't make any sense, imo. We shouldn't be tagging new people on the forums like this. It will just discourage others from being here.
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Stop playing the multiplier game, I know it's hard for you people in the third world countries to stop gambling but sheesh. Maybe you should read up on how they get the roll, do the same results with the server seed, server seed hash, client seed, and nonce.
People don't know that they probably did like 10000 rolls before hitting their cursed 12 losses streak in a row. Hell, I've even hit 22 losses in a row on old Bustabit v1. Is that a scam? Maybe you should withdraw your btc, and gamble on a site that has a house edge of 1%? Instead of gambling your wager 20 times and having it expected to lose your wager by now.
Sorry for being mean but only slow people martingale. If you martingale, you decrease your chances of winning on a dice site by like 100%.
Anyways that's all I have to say.
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What an total immature child. I am not buying anything, I was offering a service you complete and utter idiot, if I was buying it I'd be accepting and taking every person on. Clearly have an ego problem.
Thanks to this guy alone, I will not be dealing with anyone on the forums on these terms, and for future record I am more than capable of making my own decisions. If someone wants to 'give' away money they can, if I wasn't paid back I wouldn't be crying, I'd leave the negative feedback and deal with it. As I said, I wasn't accepting EVERYONE as clearly stated in my post.
Grow up, I don't want to expect that comment to be removed from my trust scan as mine wont be removed from yours EVER it's that simple.
Everyone is so harsh to you because they've seen new members all the time, come to the forum just to long con a member that sends them more than 0.1 BTC as collateral. To be honest, I don't see how this is "buying" trust though, you are just lending to users and if a member didn't really want to get scammed, then they will use a reliable escrow. People on any other forums or any selling website has to build their reputation, otherwise who would trade with you or take you seriously if no one ever traded with you before? Everyone has to start somewhere. Anyways some tips are look at people's trade history, if they barely have any trading history, then don't give them a loan. Also watch out for fake tokens, these can look the same as the regular tokens and you can get scammed like that too. edit: Don't worry about the neutral tag either, at least you didn't get smited with the negative tag from Vod
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I mean to be honest, that's really how it goes. They just cycle the smerits around and then give them back out to the newbies and other members on the forum. Merit doesn't really matter anyways because once you hit hero, it's basically the same. Off topic though, who really cares about a title? Does it really matter when smerits are cycled through the people who are already legendary/hero? They just get more smerits to give out to the other contributors on the forum. The only thing merit gets you is a higher pay rate in signature campaigns unless you have like shitty post quality then you'll just get booted out. So?  ?
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Have you actually checked the email headers to see if it was in fact sent by Paxful? It could be a phishing attempt... ie. Scammer spoofs email from Paxful saying you've had a successful login and to "click here" if this was NOT you... "click here" link takes you to phishing site to try and get you to enter your Paxful login details.
If you have changed your password and/or locked the account... and you're still getting "Successful Login" emails, then chances are high they are just phishing emails.
To view the original message headers, open the message, click the '...' options button in the top-right corner of the message and then select "Show Original".
That's not the case at all, actually I have the same emails too from Paxful and my account has been compromised too with fairly reasonable passwords ( 17 characters ) edit: https://prnt.sc/nb9uyqhttps://prnt.sc/nb9ulxhttps://prnt.sc/nb9uqmThose are screenshots from the last login attempt from Paxful, I've already had like 5 different people access my account anyways, so I don't really care as the password isn't linked to any other social account I have.
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I agree with most of the things you say in this topic. If PoW continues in bitcoin, it is surely going to die, PoW already uses too much power and pollutes the Earth a lot if it grows exponentially When the fees were 10-20$, that sucked so much. The people I told bitcoin about it were pretty bummed that they had to pay 10-20$ to send a transaction.
Like how @platzdubble say, if bitcoin becomes digital gold, people won't know the real reason behind it. All the technology is going to go to waste and it's just going to become something to put your money in, just in case it goes up like how people is doing now. I wish people would take the time to learn and understand the currency a bit more than using coinbase to send a transaction, but I digress.
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To be honest I doubt it, but it will decrease the interest in bitcoin in general. I would still probably see bitcoin being used illegally like how drugs are used illegally. It isn't going to happen anyways, if they wanted to stop bitcoin from growing, why didn't they regulate it when bitcoin was $20,000? Most people also know about it now and know how to use it for the most part, so I don't think bitcoin isn't going anywhere.
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Man congrats, I never had more than 1 bitcoin in my wallet, it's usually sent to exchanges or other things like that to trade it, and I just hold altcoins most of the time. Eventually that 1 bitcoin is going to skyrocket or tumble back down, but I see the price going back up in the future, hopefully you have 2 bitcoins by 2 years. 
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It's funny because most of the people in bitcoin is just looking for the profits. I doubt in the future that bitcoin will replace any major currency like the US Dollar but maybe in the future it will replace a poor country's currency.
You're right about paying people in bitcoin, why do you think Steam closed their way of paying with bitcoin? Because it was fluctuating too much to actually be a currency. Why did Microsoft close their way of paying with bitcoin? Same reason.
The only reason Bitcoin rised was the hype around it and people seeing a shit ton of people making money. It wasn't people who were in it for the technology and they suffered for trying to hold it for so long.
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