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1  Other / Meta / Re: [Request] Scammer tags or account locking for supposed ASIC startups? Options? on: March 18, 2013, 11:52:49 PM
Many moderators are on the BFL payroll


BadBear is invested in BFL. Gmaxwell has been promised free BFL units, ostensibly in support of his development. Gmaxwell is also extremely angry about how Avalon snubbed him, claiming publicly that Jgarzik was the only developer to purchase an Avalon unit and rewarding him accordingly. In actual fact Gmaxwell had also ordered a unit and he is absolutely seething about this, seeing it as a public humiliation. He is taking a very pro BFL moderation stance because of these two factors.

I have seen private correspondence that proves this.

plus ad spot sales

Cablepair also bought many ad slots, and he now has a scammer tag.

Nowhere near as many, and when Cablepair did buy ads the price had already been forced up by BFL bidding. He would never have given you (and yes, I mean you, because we all know where a good proportion of that money ends up. Right in your pocket) so much money if BFL hadn't driven the prices up.

Well, I have seen email correspondence that indicates you have invested in BFL. So either are lying, or people at BFL are telling lies about you to people.

2  Other / Meta / Re: [Request] Scammer tags or account locking for supposed ASIC startups? Options? on: March 17, 2013, 04:06:48 PM
The largest ASIC seller still has no proof of a working ASIC miner so they need a scammer tag too.

This won't happen. Many moderators are on the BFL payroll, plus ad spot sales, plus Theymos owns part of BFL.

3  Other / Meta / Re: Register of Moderator Interests on: March 10, 2013, 01:24:39 AM
1- You don't know why I put the money there

There is no clever reason to do so.

2- You don't know how much I put in there

Any amount is too much.

3- You don't know how much I withdrawn

Even if you withdrew money, it doesn't make it a wise decision.

4- You don't even know if I lost a single satoshi with it

Even if you were fortunate enough to gain money, it would still have been a stupid risk.

5- You don't know me, how I live, where I live, what I do for a living or how much I earn

I have a few 50 notes in my wallet now. I could take them out, set them on fire, and I'd never feel the difference or miss the money. It would still be a completely stupid thing to do, would it not?
4  Other / Meta / Re: Register of Moderator Interests on: March 09, 2013, 06:37:28 PM
Ah, he kept 1500 BTC from me, it doesn't mean I lost them. Chump change. I'm still here and not in poverty. Could you say the same if it happened to you?

Yes I could. I currently hold a good bit more coins than that, and my risk management policy is to only keep money in coins that I can comfortably afford to lose. I've lost more than $63,000 in high risk ventures before. I wouldn't call it "chump change" because I have more respect for money than that, but losses like that are manageable in relation to my current financial situation. I suspect your "chump change" rhetoric is nothing more than bravado anyway.

The difference is, of course, that I lost nothing with Pirate.  I would never put money into a ponzi scheme. I suspect that I'm at least as greedy as you, but nowhere near as stupid.
5  Other / Meta / Re: Register of Moderator Interests on: March 08, 2013, 01:45:21 AM
Well, I'm seeing that you guys aren't really interested in transparency and accountability.

It makes no difference to me, I know that I won't be taken in by scams and poor products even if the moderators are pushing them and suppressing criticism.

If you want I can show you a pic of my sexual organ.
Financial interests I only reveal to my accountant. It's none of your business.

Psy, it's ironic that you would come in here and criticise this idea, since it is actually designed to protect gullible people like yourself. How much did you lose to Pirate again?
6  Other / Meta / Re: [Request] Scammer tags or account locking for supposed ASIC startups? Options? on: March 08, 2013, 01:40:24 AM
You better hope that

A) A moderator isn't invested in the company or
B) The company hasn't made donations to the forum

Otherwise the scam will be allowed to continue here. That is how things work on this forum.
7  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Them BFL Cowboys on: March 06, 2013, 12:14:41 AM
Well,greyhawk,why don't you move here in fla & see how much money YOU can make  Huh

Yes,I hope to"supplement" my income with mining.Currently my "skills" here are worth 30% less due to the"economic downturn" (depression in my book).

BTW,I have worked jobs that I bet you couldn't do,roofing,crawling thru 140 degree attics,under mobile homes,pumping 800 yards of concrete with a 52 meter boom pump for 26 hrs straight thru.........

My "lifestory" is posted in my history,if you chose to look thru my posts,thanks  Wink

I'm sorry to hear you are in a bad situation. A lot of people are in the US, I gather. However mining Bitcoins is unlikely to be the answer you are looking for. I hope you aren't putting all your hopes on it. You would be better off trying to think of another solution to your financial issues.
8  Other / Meta / Re: Register of Moderator Interests on: March 05, 2013, 11:52:27 PM
You must be joking, have you seen the garbage mods have to deal with already?

I think many people would be willing to deal with the chore of moderation in exchange for the opportunity to clandestinely push the agenda of businesses they are invested in by belittling or suppressing criticism. Not that I am suggesting that you, or anyone else is doing that, but if one of you did choose to then it would have a great effect due to how focused the Bitcoin community is on this one single forum.

I personally think that neutrality is an important quality for forum moderation generally, but it is especially important in this situation.

Actually just an aside (I don't even know what this thread is about) theymos clears 2 grand a week just on the advertising slots he sells...

He clears it, and then it goes into the forums reserves, not into his pocket.

There should be greater transparency about this as well. Due to the rising Bitcoin price the forum probably has $1m or more in reserve. This is supposed to be used to create new forum software but there has been no movement on this. Theymos is, after all, just a young kid in college. There's no way he should be entrusted with that kind of money without any transparency. For all we know he's blown it on prostitutes, or it's paying for his own personal expenses. Of course there's no reason to think that he would, but why risk it all on some anonymous 20 year old kid? There should be more accountability.

9  Other / Meta / Re: Register of Moderator Interests on: March 04, 2013, 07:44:11 PM
Is this referring to the mad ravings of Micon? The guy who called Josh a mentally disabled pedophile? That's less "biased" and more "justice."

No, this is a wider issue.

I actually had a mod on my Ignore list for some time because I perceived he was severely biased in favor of a BFL competitor..

Wouldn't you feel more comfortable knowing whether or not the mod is biased because of some financial interest?
10  Other / Meta / Forum Finances Transparency on: March 02, 2013, 08:48:31 PM
This forum has collected a lot of donations. This, I am sure we will all agree, is a good thing.

However, I think there should be some transparency about donations. Cynical people might suggest that the forum moderation policy could be influenced by the weight of these donations.

I think that Theymos should reveal whether he has received donations from Butterfly Labs or any Butterfly Labs employees.

I would also like this thread to be home for general discussion about the transparency of donations to this forum.
11  Other / Meta / Register of Moderator Interests on: March 02, 2013, 08:44:35 PM
In the last month or two there have been a few allegations going around of a pro-BFL bias in the moderating activities of the forum. I don't personally have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I do think that there is certainly some basis for these claims.

The Bitcoin community is still a reasonably small one. This means two things:

Firstly, the moderation team of this forum holds an incredibly powerful position. This is the main and original Bitcoin forum and the only one with a significant amount of activity. It's also worth noting that Theymos, the chief administrator of this forum, is also the chief administrator of the Bitcoin reddit, the only other Bitcoin forum with any reasonably amount of activity.

Secondly, it's not unfeasible that members of the moderation team would have a financial interest in various Bitcoin businesses. It's a small community, moderators tend to be reasonably prominent members of that community, and we're all entrepreneurial souls. This could lead to conflict of interest.

In the United Kingdom, members of parliament need to submit information to a "register of member's interests." This is a public, written record of the business interest of members of parliament. It records all of the companies they work for, have received gifts from, or have invested in. This helps prevent unfair practices under the table.

I propose a similar system for moderators of this forum. They should publicly reveal their Bitcoin business interests. This would help identify bias, as well as fend off false allegations of bias.

If moderators don't feel comfortable revealing which Bitcoin businesses they have a financial interest in succeeding, then they should reassess their suitability to be moderators.
12  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'd like to ask for some help. on: January 17, 2013, 09:19:28 PM
Ok I think Matthew should just focus on new business and try to win us over that way. I want to see what else he can do, he obvious has some good visions. Everyone deserves another chance if they really want it, and he sounds it.

He definitely deserves another chance as long as he pays people off.

Matthew, I had a pretty good sense of what you were trying to achieve with your last "wager",

What he was trying to achieve was make a great deal of money at no risk to himself.
13  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: January 17, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Thereee wee gooo...

Alright everyone, time to beat is 5 hours 26 minutes and 38 seconds. Shouldn't be too hard, she's pretty quick on the keyboard normally.

Korbman, I'll post again in the future. After all, that's where we'e all heading. It's where it's at.
14  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: January 17, 2013, 07:34:20 PM
All hail the mighty ignore list, silencer of dissention, censor of questions, ensurer of the one true path.

You forgot "starver of trolls"

I don't think it functions very well in that regard.

Seems to have starved CharlieContent for a bit.

*1,000 new posts from her starting in 3..2...1....*

Hahaha. Speak of the devil eh?

I wouldn't call myself a troll. If it makes you feel better about being humiliated by me to label me one then go ahead. I've noticed a trend on these forums for people to label those with a contrary opinion to themselves "a troll". Usually how it works is the more stupid the opinion, the more likely they are to call you out for "trolling" when you disagree. It's like these people have never been questioned by anyone before, and anyone who disagrees with them must be doing it to bully them somehow. It's probably the case that no one has actually questioned them before, as they are unlikely to hold any position of responsibility or influence. I mean there's only one way to make a big mac, right?

Has anyone checked out Korbman's "investment company" website in his sig? For some dumb reason I thought he might actually be involved in real world investing (I know, I know)

It's pretty funny, here's a quote:

Quote from: Korbman
As an investor and financial enthusiast, I'm sometimes asked what I am I passionate about. I often respond with the philosophical answer of "The Future". Why? Because that's where everything is. That's where we're going.

Wow, what a visionary.

And what is this great visionary venture capitalist's main investment?

Quote from: Korbman
I've completed the purchase of eight [4] Butterfly Labs Single SC devices, done in two batches of four each.

Warren Buffet must be terrified. Keep up the good work, Mr. Galt! Truly you are a captain of industry.
15  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'd like to ask for some help. on: January 16, 2013, 10:44:05 PM
Unless you pay your debts, you are not welcome here.

You are a lying, scamming sack of shit and you make me sick.

Fuck off and don't come back.
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will be at CES2013 (Official Thread) on: January 16, 2013, 06:22:21 PM

PS - Still waiting for the "Fuck You Machine" you promised me.

something more like this then?

This should be a lesson to everyone, register your fucking name if you can.

Good work Micon, that'll drive the ugly fucker up the wall.
17  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: January 16, 2013, 06:16:59 PM
Still found employees though Tongue

So fucking what? You challenged us to find engineers for one of your clients, as if it would be impossible. We found them in 5 minutes.

Look at what you found. You've made yourself look like a total idiot. Get out.
18  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: January 16, 2013, 05:28:22 PM
On a side note that's mildly related..
I preordered Grand Theft Auto V...since it hasn't been released yet and all I've seen are screenshots/trailers, Rockstar Games must be scamming me. It only makes sense, right?  Roll Eyes

I must have missed the part where Rockstar games was founded and is run by a convicted fraudster.

Although it's funny because Syko G, that 18 year old BFL "engineer" you posted is actually more like a character from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas than an engineer working for a tech company.

19  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: January 16, 2013, 05:25:06 PM
To quote the girl:

Niqqasz diisz dayysz r so dumb n chulldiish mudufckersz thiink they tha shyt by sayiin got dis much of amount on snapbacks,, shooesz,, or clothes but dnt qot a dam car -_- like really they wuna date cute qirlssz n they got the nerve to invite dem to the movies out to eat or watever n their mommy drops dem off or ah friiend n dey ask mommy for money cus they too lazy to qet up n fukin wrk idk was wronq widd qirlsz these daysz that b wantiin do date dis typa niqqasz instead of datiin responsible niqqssz that hav their own car/truck ah job n sum money safe that wen yall qo out udnt qotta paid shyt n let the niqa pay the shyt but qirlsz these daysz r fukin dumb n stupid

I assume this is an essay on how chips are delayed.

Hahah, the problem is that cloq buqqfer niqqa
20  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: January 16, 2013, 05:22:49 PM
I'm just lazy. Too much work to narrow down the list to just engineers. I found so many people that work there. Machinists, painters, inspectors, supervisors, welders, cnc operators, etc.

Tim Bishop, Engineer,
Rossford Fayen, Engineer,

Seeee, that wasn't so hard now was it Wink

Now, let's apply these same strategies for Butterfly Labs!
Sonny Vleisides,
Josh Zerlan,
Syko Ramirez,
Mike Wazowski,

EDIT: Why are we arguing again? This thread gets derailed seemingly every other page haha

Hahah and which one of these are engineers with solid careers who have too much to lose by participating in a scam? Let me guess, it's "Syko G", the hispanic ghetto homegirl who looks like she is 20 years old max?

Or perhaps it's Mike Wazowski, who: "Went to RHS [Rosewood High School] for the most part.... Looken to meet up with old friends from school....if i add you its for a reason cause i know you or have seen you around RHS before"

So, which one of these two kids have too much to lose by participating in a scam? Are either of them even engineers?

This is fucking pathetic man you can do better than that. Where are the ENGINEERS with CAREERS BEHIND THEM?

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