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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]📢AnyLedger⚡️Connecting the physical world to the blockchain⚡️Open source⚡️ on: August 18, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
We just announced a partnership with XYO Network!

More info here:

https://twitter.com/anyledgerio/status/1030515929925476355
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]📢AnyLedger⚡️Connecting the physical world to the blockchain⚡️Open source⚡️ on: August 03, 2018, 06:31:32 PM
The token is needed to access AnyLedger blockchain-as-a-service, which is a full blown service enabling IoT-Blockchain scenarios such as tamper proof supply chains, car wallets, peer-to-peer energy grids and more.
Every device employing the AnyLedger stack become an hardware wallet (that's our value proposition!), so in a sense the answer to your question is yes. If you mean existing hardware wallets (Ledger, Trezor, etc.), of course the ENE token will be accepted if the hardware wallet supports ETH tokens.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / [ANN]📢AnyLedger⚡️Connecting the physical world to the blockchain⚡️Open source⚡️ on: July 29, 2018, 02:29:20 PM









The account "AnyLedger" is the official admin


4  Other / Serious discussion / Blockchain and Supply Chain: The Startup Landscape on: May 15, 2018, 06:02:52 PM
Will supply chain be the first big usecase of the blockchain after crypto?

https://medium.com/anyledger/blockchain-and-supply-chain-the-startup-landscape-d82fefc7e565
5  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Do robots dream of Blockchain? on: May 08, 2018, 09:43:49 PM
Yep, nice catch, the author had that in mind.  Grin
6  Other / Serious discussion / Do robots dream of Blockchain? on: May 08, 2018, 02:29:20 PM
Some interesting insights on the future of blockchain applied to swarm robotics and Robot-as-a-Service:

https://medium.com/anyledger/do-robots-dream-of-blockchain-8bbe7b24f654
7  Other / Serious discussion / Re: IoT and Blockchain on: April 28, 2018, 08:12:14 AM
I'm not sold on why Internet of Things technologies need a distributed ledger system. Devices already upload data streams to predesignated servers, but why would it need a distributed ledger system? Distributed ledger systems are good for certain things, but not everything. This is something we've been seeing quite often - blockchain technology "companies" trying to blockchain everything. Don't be surprised when these "blockchain" companies that promise to be the solution to X problem in Y industry screw investors over and fail to provide viable products as promised.

In the article 3 main points are listed:
-Blockchain needs good IoT for industrial and logistic applications, such as proof of provenance.
-IoT has centralized infrastructure now, but in the future it could be decentralized becoming more safe and resilient. The servers are single points of failure right now.
-Security in IoT


I understand your point, but the question I'm wondering about is - does IoT NEED blockchain technology? With exponential rise in the number of IoT devices in various industries and sectors in the coming years, what purpose does the public availability of all transactions recorded onto some distributed ledger serve? I'd love to hear out some specific examples, but I'm really not an IoT engineer to elaborate anymore on my points. (I only know a bit about smart metering technologies haha)

Wait, blockchain doesn't mean public. There are implementation like HyperLedger in which privacy and even some degree of control over nodes can be maintained. It's really up to the specific IoT application to decide which application is better. For instance some applications can include the presence of currencies (think about a peer-to-peer marketplace of solar panels that sell and buy electricity) or without currency (for instance supply chain applications, in which you want to track a shipment between different means of transportation and log an audit trail of the whole shipment, together with enviromental measurements of temperature, humidity, etc.).

Some IoT use cases, I would say the majority, really needs the blockchain for security reasons. For instance one of the main concerns with self driving cars are hackers able to crash the car just by altering some sensor communications. I cite from https://blogs.cisco.com/innovation/blockchain-and-a-safer-self-driving-future:

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Currently, roadside sensors use short-range wireless technology to transmit information about traffic and weather to vehicles. This data is disappointingly easy to interfere with, and tampering with real-time traffic information could have disastrous effects on autonomous vehicles, which will rely on these roadside processors to navigate the real world. If a bad actor hacked the system to show a nonexistent object in the road or disseminate bad information about weather conditions, it could have lethal effects on passengers. The roadside sensors need to exchange information with vehicles in a way that is secure, and this can be achieved with blockchain technology. As protocols for vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) communication and vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I) communication are perfected, we believe encrypted blockchain solutions should play a big role in this adaptation.

A very nice reference on different use cases is the following:

http://www.kaleidoinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/KI_Report_IoTBlockchain_FINAL.pdf
8  Other / Serious discussion / Re: IoT and Blockchain on: April 27, 2018, 07:39:33 AM
IoT and blockchain are two promising technologies to change our future. This article talks about the main benefit and common misconceptions about using these two technologies together:

https://medium.com/anyledger/why-iot-and-blockchain-are-a-perfect-match-4d5b6e2a1a02


What do you think about it?

Among others, I think there is one of the main unsolved problems with blockchain - the possibility of blockchain compaction, which prevents it from real use in IoT.

Without this, IoT device is just acting as a light client, so why use  blockchain on small device at all?

For example, imagine you've got a security system in your house. Many small sensors are watching and listening whats going on around. Where do they send the collected data and store it for, say, years? Where the algorithms of how they work are stored? On central server?

You can say it is possible to make blockchain take less data, using UTXO, I believe it is implemented in Bitcoin. But how long would it take to plug in new device and sync with others then? Not sure, probably I'm missing the point, please correct me in this case.

There are two possible roads:
1 do all the blockchain work on the IoT device.
2  outsourcing the work remotely.

Option 1 is of course possible for powerful devices, but not for generically low powered sensors. There are some proposed solutions, like IOTA, that promise to be so lightweight that even small sensors can run a "full node". If this is really possible it's not totally clear at the moment.

Option 2 is more closer of how current IoT work with data analytics, that is the data is stored and analyzed remotely. I think that the same approach with the blockchain is the winning one, so hosting the "full nodes" remotely, and having the device just sign transactions and keep the private key. Notice that this approach is highly secure, since the private keys never leave the device. In the future server and storage will not be centralized, for instance one could use services like Golem and IPFS.
9  Other / Serious discussion / Re: IoT and Blockchain on: April 26, 2018, 09:09:20 AM
I'm not sold on why Internet of Things technologies need a distributed ledger system. Devices already upload data streams to predesignated servers, but why would it need a distributed ledger system? Distributed ledger systems are good for certain things, but not everything. This is something we've been seeing quite often - blockchain technology "companies" trying to blockchain everything. Don't be surprised when these "blockchain" companies that promise to be the solution to X problem in Y industry screw investors over and fail to provide viable products as promised.

In the article 3 main points are listed:
-Blockchain needs good IoT for industrial and logistic applications, such as proof of provenance.
-IoT has centralized infrastructure now, but in the future it could be decentralized becoming more safe and resilient. The servers are single points of failure right now.
-Security in IoT
10  Other / Serious discussion / IoT and Blockchain on: April 25, 2018, 03:10:39 PM
IoT and blockchain are two promising technologies to change our future. This article talks about the main benefit and common misconceptions about using these two technologies together:

https://medium.com/anyledger/why-iot-and-blockchain-are-a-perfect-match-4d5b6e2a1a02


What do you think about it?
11  Other / Serious discussion / Re: How to Build an Embedded Wallet For Ethereum on: April 20, 2018, 10:22:36 PM
You are right, for many IoT applications it is not necessary to have a currency, we will indeed support even "purely blockchain" solutions like Hyperledger.

The advantage of having a natural and secure way of exchanging currency between physical devices should not be underestimated though. It is something far from trivial with a normal IoT device and can enable many interesting use cases. For instance instead of paying in advance for the shipping cost of an item bought online, you could put the money into a smart contract and automatically pay when the goods arrive together with an IoT sensor which monitored the shipping. The smart contract could specify that if certain conditions are not satisfied (for instance temperature over a certain range, time delays, shocks, too much humidity) a discount or complete refund should immediately apply.
12  Other / Serious discussion / Re: How to Build an Embedded Wallet For Ethereum on: April 20, 2018, 08:00:51 AM
You're correct that Boron (coming from Particle, https://www.particle.io/mesh/buy/boron-lte/) is a secure device given that it's supported ARM TrustZone. But IoT security model is far from being complete just by just having that option on your IoT device. Identity and being able to verify the authenticity of the data coming from a particular device is another dimension of security model. These two come "for free" once you're using blockchain on your device as Root of Trust.

Furthermore, it's not just the data on the device which needs to be secure. Data uploaded to a centralized service are inherently unsafe since you're trusting that third party. Decentralized approach (blockchain + IPFS) offers a ticket out of data silos like Amazon, Alibaba, AT&T M2X, IBM Bluemix, Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud, mBed Cloud, and other private clouds and lets device owners to own their own data. We explain this approach in more details in our whitepaper which you can find here: http://www.anyledger.io/.
13  Other / Serious discussion / Re: How to Build an Embedded Wallet For Ethereum on: April 18, 2018, 01:11:27 PM

Reading the article, got some questions.
How could this work? Imagine someone has a blockchain in his security cam, which reports the data to central server and signs it so that it is unfalsifiable (if I correctly understood the use case). Now, this small device should have it's private key in it, stored somehow locally, correct?. What is the security measure if it?


Just to clear a potential misunderstanding. The security cam would run only a wallet and not the full or light blockchain node. This is something what was explained in the blog post as a common misconception in the industry when it comes to combing blockchain and IoT. Given that the security cam has the wallet locally, it will own its private key as well, correct. In the example from the blog post, the micro-controller unit (MCU) being used on Particle Photon is belonging to similar family of MCUs like Trezor (STM32F205) which actually has a large hardware-based attack surface. Check out this great article on that topic: https://blog.gridplus.io/hardware-wallet-vulnerabilities-f20688361b88. The idea behind the blog post was to explore the possibilities and potential use cases of running a wallet on a embedded device. Now, making the device itself more secure requires much more effort of course. This is exactly what is our startup (called AnyLedger, http://anyledger.io) working on atm. We are building a highly secure, embedded wallet solution which will expose IoT devices to the blockchain ecosystem. We will be using a new type of MCUs with high security standards (ARM TrustZone) and enclose the MCU in a unibody with special welding procedure to provide temper-proof capabilities. There are more security measure we plan to add to it. You can check our whitepaper for more details.



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Why a toaster needs a wallet? No, seriously, I can understand that blockchain, probably, has application to IoT. But why things should be built around "wallets" and "balances" there?


We're definitely not implying that the every single IoT device out there should be a wallet as well. What we're trying to convey is that having connected capability for the IoT device will become commodity in the near future. Once that happens, whole new set of use cases will open up. These connected devices don't necessary have to exchange value between each other. More interesting scenarios involve their interaction with smart contracts. Think about having an audit trail for you home appliances which prove the usage time of a specific device. This can be used to determine a more fair second-hand price for example, or suggest for the potential repairs in order to extend the lifetime of of the device. We might be able to fight against planned obsolescence by requiring manufactures to enable these kind of scenarios. Not all IoT devices are home appliances btw. IoT refers to a much broader spectrum of industrial machinery, electronic appliances, wireless sensors, cars, transport systems, wearables, smart meters or any other everyday object with enhanced digital capabilities.



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Why would it be necessary, funds in a wallet of my door bell? Wouldn't distributed, blockchain based consensus work here, but not involving currency-ish idioms?

Sorry for some critics, but you asked for comments. I do think blockchain can be used in IoT and such a projects have great potential, but I can't get why it's still being built around "wallets", "funds" and "balances". Is this because there is no technical basis for something different and Ethereum dominates the area?



I think your comment is spot on this one. Currency based vocabulary might be causing a certain level of confusion. Our product is quite technical and we're still trying to find the correct way of telling its story to our community and potential customers. Given that this is relatively new application area for blockchain, we thought that "embedded wallet" term would push the right buttons in people's head. The concept of wallet is wide-spread technical term in blockchain world and it's not specific to Ethereum. Also, our startup is trying to abstraction layer for the wallet itself, so it would easy for a IoT device and its owner to move between different chains.

14  Other / Serious discussion / Re: How to Build an Embedded Wallet For Ethereum on: April 18, 2018, 01:03:32 PM

Ethereum and IoT? Have you taken a look at the transaction capacity of ethereum? Are you sure you are in the right chain?


That is an excellent question. The blog post from above was really a proof of concept and to investigate what is possible to deliver on an embedded platform. Turned out that you can run a full blown wallet on a small footprint device. Coming back to your question. We have chosen Ethereum for our prototype, but we won't be tying ourselves to it (even though there are some promising developments on that chain like PoC and Plasma). One of the core directions for the startup we're building (called AnyLedger, http://anyledger.io) is being agnostic for the underlying blockchain. Our second iteration of the prototype will involve new hardware setup (smaller size, smaller footprint) and support for other chains out there (Stellar, IOTA or even tech from Layer 2 like Lightning Network, Plasma) which are more suitable for IoT scenarios. Given that the landscape of blockchain ecosystem is always evolving, we don't think there will be a single winner for the IoT scenarios. Therefore, we believe that having a platform which can expose ioT device to multiple chains would be a compelling offer.

Thanks for the feedback btw and if you're more interested into this topic, please check our website (http://anyledger.io). We're giving away first batch of our prototypes to the community once they are ready.
15  Other / Serious discussion / How to Build an Embedded Wallet For Ethereum on: April 16, 2018, 05:20:37 PM
Hi guys,

I'm building a startup in Berlin applying blockchain tech to the IoT (Internet of Things). Here's a small demo that we did a couple of months ago, hopefully you will find it interesting:

https://medium.com/coinmonks/building-embedded-wallet-for-ethereum-c9777c1f4697

(it's a Medium article written by my cofounder)

I'm looking for feedback, every comment is welcome!
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] - - AT WHAT PRICE will they force YOU to sell your BTC to them - for good on: April 01, 2018, 05:16:12 PM
Will sell in chunks at 40k, 150k and 450k.  Grin
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUG 21] REVAIN - Reinventing Reviews on Blockchain on: March 01, 2018, 10:28:22 PM
The roadmap seems  pretty inconsistent... Saving reviews in Q2 and review incentive in Q3? It takes so long to code a smart contract?
Also it's not clear how it's possible to maintain the price of the token stable.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Which will be the biggest and final blow to crypto on: February 11, 2018, 09:17:55 PM
USA, Japan and Europe are safe, so no need to worry.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best Altcoins to buy on the dip today? on: January 08, 2018, 09:06:13 PM
SONM and AION.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: abcFolio, Android App for Cryptocurrency Trading on: January 08, 2018, 07:00:10 PM
abcFolio is being updated to v 2.19

-Introduced the Private Mode. Now you can show the app to your friends without revealing your balances!
You can activate the private mode from the settings.



(This option is useful when you have a lot of money... or very few!!!  Grin)
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