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1  Other / Off-topic / Split from Silkroad topic on: April 20, 2011, 09:22:56 PM
take it easy on the CP defense
Every other crime caught on tape is a hit television show ..... I'm just sayin

No, I wont take it easy on the "CP defence". The only reason to do so would be out of fear of being labelled a paedophile and socially ostracised, but this is a pseudonymous forum and I am behind seven proxies. I don't defend CP, I defend peoples rights. The government has ruined the lives of hundreds of thousands of people over child pornography, a mere 16% of whom would statistically be likely to offend with a child. When you take into account that their definition of child is anyone under 18, you can see that even this estimate is artificially inflated.

Child porn and child sexuality laws are awful. In the USA tens of thousands of men are sent to prison for having sex with people who are old enough to consent in the majority of the world, including Europe. People in USA are put into prison and labelled sex offenders for having sex with 16 and 17 year olds in some states, despite this being totally legal in other states. Standing by complacently while people have their lives ruined for things that are legal a few miles away is awful and shows only that you are a scared coward afraid of the government created stigma.

Child porn should be protected constitutionally as right to free speech, but this term has been redefined into nothingness by the government. It isn't even possible to defend the people who view child porn with out appearing to support paedophilia. The average person who is rabidly for locking up people who look at child porn and throwing away the key is basing their entire argument off of emotions and not logic, and when they do present logic it is only a facades because the statistics and studies they quote are made up by law enforcement and anti groups. 

I don't think Silk Road should become involved with child porn, there are already hidden services for that. I just can't stand to see moral warriors spreading their bullshit at the cost of innocent peoples lives, people who are overwhelmingly not dangers to children and who have as much a right to privacy and protection from censorship as anyone else.
2  Other / Off-topic / Split from Silkroad topic on: April 20, 2011, 07:25:16 AM
Actually, the vast majority of child porn is created by teenagers with camera phones.
Grin

Do you realy want to talk about CP? Do you realy know what CP is? Child Porn is not about two teenagers having sex, it is about adults raping kids (below 10 maybe).
Should everyone have the right to view/copy this stuff (without the approval of all performers)?

Well, personally I don't think 10, 11, 12 or probably even 13 year olds can consent to sex so I think below 10 is pretty young of a cut off age to consider something 'CP' instead of 'Who the fuck cares'. I do think that everyone has the right to view/copy CP though, I am against censorship and for personal freedom. I know that the majority of people are emotionally charged and irrational, but I am quite certain that CP being legal to view and possess would be a good thing and probably would actually lead to lower rates of sexual abuse. Free information means free  information, if you are not for free information then you are pro-censorship. I am the opposite of pro-censorship. Outlawing information is bullshit. And actually CP is about teenagers having sex, because a tremendous amount of CP is in fact teenagers having sex. A tremendous amount of CP that isn't teenagers having sex is Russian produced softcore images where the children are paid and "consent" and have the consent of their parents, however I do think this production should be illegal. A tremendous amount of real CP is no worse than the legal based on artistic merits Brooke Shields nude images: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/6244330/Brooke-Shields-nude-photograph-causes-controversy-at-Tate-exhibition.html or nudist images deemed legal by the courts.

I wont link to them because they are nude and underage, but they are legal and actually on exhibit in museums in the UK.

edit: I should mention that I do think paying for CP should be illegal, as this does actually fund child abuse. Saying it is illegal to look at a picture though? Bullshit. Also, my distinction between 'CP' and 'Who gives a fuck' still stands.
3  Other / Off-topic / Split from Silkroad topic on: April 20, 2011, 01:11:37 AM
Child porn should not be illegal to possess or view. If you think it should be, then you are pro censorship.

it's a two headed sword.

in order to posses/view, it must be made somehow, which creates a market

but some believe that if a pedo doesn't get his CP fix, he/she will resort to more desperate measures (kidnapping followed by shit i don't want to think abou)

so it comes down to the lesser of the two evils in my book

No people having sexual attraction to children creates the market. But realistically there is not much of a pay market for child porn. People produce child porn because they are exhibitionists with pedophilic tendencies or because they are sadists. Other people with similar tendencies view the child porn. Viewing child porn has no effect on production, harms nobody and should be completely legal. I am not  pro-pedophilia by any means and you wont see me arguing that kids should have sex or that pedophilia is normal. However, you also wont find me buying the bullshit the government and anti groups spew since this is equally bullshit.

libertus.net/censor/resources/statistics-laundering.html

Actually, the vast majority of child porn is created by teenagers with camera phones.

4  Other / Off-topic / Split from Silkroad topic on: April 20, 2011, 12:59:09 AM
Also, child porn that is of a certain age is only illegal because of brainwashed religious zealots who have psychological issues with sex.
5  Other / Off-topic / Split from Silkroad topic on: April 20, 2011, 12:56:01 AM
Child porn should only be illegal to produce. Child porn should not be illegal to possess or view. If you think it should be, then you are pro censorship.
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